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Identifying the correct way to respond to God’s wrath in a given moment is a simple matter if you ask the right question. That question is: “As a Christian, where should my loyalty lie?” The answer is: “With God.” This might sound obvious, but it’s not. As a human, your natural tendency is to be loyal to yourself first. This is why Christians pray against God’s wrath—because THEY don’t like the discomfort He is bringing into THEIR lives, therefore they feel justified in telling Him to stop it. This is a very irreverent attitude. As a Christian ALL of your loyalty should be on God’s side. Any prayer which makes it sound like you care about someone else more than you care about Him is a wrong prayer. Let’s look at some examples.

SITUATION: An earthquake devastates a city, causing hundreds of deaths.WRONG: “God, please help all those poor people!”RIGHT: “God, I know You have good reasons for everything You do. Help me to respond to this situation in a way that honors You."

SITUATION: Scores of children are gunned down by demon worshiping terrorists.WRONG: “God, please stop those terrible men and avenge those poor innocent children!”RIGHT: “God, I know that every life is in Your hands and that You are in total control of what happens in this world. Help me to honor You with faith in Your goodness and take away my desire to criticize Your work or elevate my wisdom as higher than Your own.”

Do you hear the difference in loyalty? The wrong prayers insult God by completely discounting the fact that He caused these things to happen on purpose. The wrong prayers elevate the welfare of humans as being more important than God accomplishing His personal agenda. The wrong prayers criticize God with language like “those poor people” and “those poor innocent children.” Where do we get off casting judgment on the victims of so-called tragedies? First of all, if God caused it, it’s not a tragedy. And if He killed someone, He wanted them dead. So we need to dispense with the insulting adjectives and wording that paints God’s actions as negative, flawed, or bumbling. When we pray right, we start by acknowledging that God caused the events, that He wanted the events, and then we ask Him to help us align with HIS agenda.

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 43 Comments [2/4/2015 3:38:51 AM]
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His agenda seems to require millions of children to die of disease, famine, and parasites every year. Luckily, he has arranged most of them geographically to make his agenda easier.

2/4/2015 4:01:46 AM

Kuyohashi

God: He's a terrorist, and that's OK!

2/4/2015 4:27:03 AM

Mister Spak

SITUATION: Scores of children are gunned down by demon worshiping terrorists.WRONG:We need to pass laws preventing fundie terrorists from buying guns. RIGHT: We need to eliminate restrictions on who can own guns so those good guy children can exercise their second amendment rights at those bad guy terrorists.

2/4/2015 4:32:11 AM



If God is in control, what's the point of all this bullshit? You can't have it both ways

2/4/2015 4:36:25 AM

Sangfroid

I knew within the first sentence it was Anna! That whole grovelling to gob's every desire, no matter how degraded or demented., Anna all the way.

You know, before she was "saved", I have to believe Anna was into serious BDSM porn.

2/4/2015 4:38:40 AM

Goomy pls

How remarkably evil your god is. I'm glad I don't worship it.

2/4/2015 4:46:40 AM

whatever

“SITUATION: Scores of children are gunned down by demon worshiping terrorists.WRONG: “God, please stop those terrible men and avenge those poor innocent children!”RIGHT: God, I know that every life is in Your hands and that You are in total control of what happens in this world. Help me to honor You with faith in Your goodness and take away my desire to criticize Your work or elevate my wisdom as higher than Your own.”"

Er, wait a minute. You don't want to be as wise as God? Doesn't this kind of go against the idea of aligniing yourself with God's desires?

2/4/2015 5:02:33 AM

Skide

@Sangfroid
Had exactly same reaction, read the first sentence and though "Must be anna, nobody else is this joyfull about their little tyrant murdering people."

2/4/2015 5:06:58 AM

Swede

So, if your children are disobeying, they are flayed alive?
If you were not a virgin on your wedding night, your husband has the right to murder you at your father's doorstep?

Scores of children are gunned down by god-worshiping terrorists.

I only hear insanity.

2/4/2015 5:50:33 AM

Malingspann

In other words: "There will be no loyalty, except loyalty towards the Faith. There will be no love, except the love of God. There will be no laughter, except the laugh of triumph over a defeated enemy of the Lord. There will be no art, no literature, no science. There will be no curiousity, no enjoyment of the process of life. All competing pleasures will be destroyed."

2/4/2015 6:10:04 AM

Doubting Thomas

It's still beyond me why anyone would ever want to worship such a monster. But I think a good analogy would be a battered wife who defends her husband to the point of attacking the police taking him to jail for domestic violence.

2/4/2015 6:39:51 AM

pete

So. What would be the correct prayer after a crazed fundy shoots a doctor or bombs a clinic that provides abortions?

2/4/2015 7:29:17 AM

Dr. Razark

Stockholm Syndrome?

2/4/2015 7:35:54 AM

creativerealms

Divine Stockholm syndrome strikes again.

2/4/2015 7:38:17 AM

Pule Thamex

Oo! Look! My relationship with Bible God justifies me being a complete jerk and to express myself in the manner of a total dick. What a happy coincidence. Hooray for Bible God.

Hooray for mental illness, another one of Bible God's great inventions. Hooray, I'm a blithering moron. Hooray, we can all be happy little nutcases on Sky Daddy's watch.

2/4/2015 8:00:27 AM



By your logic, then, anyone who follows the teachings of Jesus by doing charity work to ease the suffering of the poor or gives medical aid to save the lives of those victims of shootings and natural disasters is doing wrong. Again, by your logic, you'd have to leave them to die in order not to interfere with God's plan. It seems that you have a problem.....

2/4/2015 8:40:19 AM

Anon-e-moose

SITUATION: A city in Holland tolerates soft drug use and legalises brothels. No earthquakes in Amsterdam.

SITUATION: A country in 1967 legalises homosexuality. Same-sex marriage legalised a few years ago. No earthquakes in the UK.

Either your 'God' is now loyal to Sin, or geological shit happens and your 'God' doesn't exist.

http://www.raptureforums.com/forums/threads/what-denomination-is-this.94690/#post-842168342

@mattfivefour

"The site is run by a woman but the name of Anna Diehl. It would appear she writes all of the articles. She is a fundamentalist with some EXTREMELY heretical views. Proclaiming her pursuit of God through Jesus Christ, she nonetheless teaches so much outright non-biblical error (not surprising when she claims the Bible is full of errors and contradictions) that Christians should not give her a moment's notice. This woman and her site are not of God. She is a very clever tool of Satan and needs our prayers."

When a mod of a forum - where even Ruptured Retards rejects who are too extreme for that site go - says that, then we know that fundie Christainity is too fragmented to be able to organise in any coherent way to have any real political strength. Especially post-late 2012.

30,000+ denominations of Christianity. That's an awful lot of gods Andy Diehl, when even Akhenaten had just one: the Aten.

Too many 'Truths' spoil the Church. Only one form of Reality. Guess we Atheists are the real Monotheists then.

2/4/2015 8:41:20 AM

Evilutionist

Anna just must think she is garbage to worship a monster like her god.

2/4/2015 8:54:23 AM

whatever

@Anon-e-Moose
"SITUATION: A city in Holland tolerates soft drug use and legalises brothels. No earthquakes in Amsterdam."

Remember the Netherlands survives by keeping the ocean at bay with massive concrete barriers. Just wait until there is major flooding there caused by a problem with a barrier in exceptional tides or bad weather, and the fundies will grab the situation like vultures and start braying about liberal culture gone to excess, and see what it brings them, etc...

They've probably already typed out their fundy responses to such an event in advance, ready to post with minimal editing as soon as such an event happens.

2/4/2015 8:56:57 AM



I know that every life is in Your hands and that You are in total control of what happens in this world.

So anything that happens, only happens because God wants it to happen?

So, why am I going to be punished for doing exactly what God wants me to do? And free will won't work, because that would involve me doing something God doesn't want to happen, which it can't according to you...

While you're busy trying to work out how to make God look good for punishing the obedient, think on this... Since I already disobey God by not doing what he wants, but can only do what God doesn't want if he wants it, any attempt by me to obey God would be me disobeying God, but by disobeying God I am obeying God and thus any attempt by you or anyone else to convince me to obey God would be you attempting to convince me to disobey God... and according to God that means you should be put to death right now.

Since I can't get to you, I'll assume you will commit suicide ASAP... or will you disobey your God?

2/4/2015 9:33:16 AM

pyro

> When a mod of a forum - where even Ruptured Retards rejects who are too extreme for that site go - says that, then we know that fundie Christainity is too fragmented to be able to organise in any coherent way to have any real political strength. Especially post-late 2012.

And, of course, the specific examples they pull out are her interpretation of the trinity and her post about God lying, not stuff like the one here.

2/4/2015 9:45:05 AM

Jim Bob

At least she's honest about how much of a monstrous tyrant "biblegod" is.

2/4/2015 9:46:43 AM

Anon-e-moose

@whatever

...and thus Dutch engineering trumps the fundies' 'God's Omnipotence. Speaking of which, not taking into account the Thames flood barrier, there's the little matter of London's sewage system, designed by Sir Joseph Bazalgette

So perfectly engineered was it, that only every few decades does it need any repairs; and only then, basic repointing of the brickwork in a few areas, it's that well made. And was designed with the future in mind; even with urban expansion, post-creation, and at the height of any massive rainfall, it has only reached half the level of the pipe's height, so it can more than cope with any possible water/effluent outflow volume.

Not for nothing did Joseph Bazalgette get his Knighthood. He was also the great-grandfather of Canadian WWII bomber pilot Ian Willoughby Bazalgette, VC.

He was also the great-great-grandfather of Peter Bazalgette, TV producer, and senior figure in Endemol. The Dutch production company which essentially invented 'Reality TV' as we know it today, especially "Big Brother", thus responsible for pumping so much shit back into London & the UK as a whole. Oh, teh irony. XP

2/4/2015 9:47:42 AM

ConcernedCultist

Fucking Lobotomite.

2/4/2015 9:55:00 AM

The Crimson Ghost

Anna is quite the submissive. I can easily picture her typing this crap while wearing a ballgag with a pony girl outfit. Poor thing, I almost feel sorry for her.

2/4/2015 10:31:29 AM

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