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I want to publicly thank popular atheist, Jaclyn Glenn, for the exposure she has given to "Evolution Vs. God." Her first review received over 650,000 views.

No doubt most of those who watched were atheists. God only knows how many backslid because of her disastrous effort at damage-control.

The first review didn't work so she tried again, and this one has had over 190,000 views.

Watch Jaclyn go into panic-mode as the sacred cow of Darwinian evolution is shown to have no scientific basis.

This is because it's not me that couldn't find evidence for the belief. It was four leading evolutionary scientists (from USC and UCLA) that are floundering. So her frustration is understandable.

If you watch, be ready for her potty-mouth (see Proverbs 11:22).

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old comment by creativerealms

It's funny how negative publicity is only good publicity when it happens to you huh Ray? When you and your buddy Ken Ham bash Noah and tell people not to watch it, your not promoting it. Hahahahaha.

Anyway the questions those experts could not answer were not things biologists actually looks for. No scientist believes that a cat will give birth to a dog or that we should find something like that to prove evolution.

There is this old saying Ray, "If you can't dazzle them with your brilliance you baffle them with bulls***. That is precisely what you did. You baffled those scientists into silence with bulls***. You just don't realize there is a difference.

old comment by dionysus

If we assume what you say is true (a big if), so what? Jaclyn and some random professors at USC and UCLA are not the emperors of evolution. The theory stands on its own merits, not on the merits of its defenders. See, unlike religion which varies from holy man to holy man, evolution by natural selection is a well-defined concept that does not require apologists to interpret it and doesn't rely on any followers. Evolution will continue to be true if 100% of the planet turns creationist and if the theory of evolution is lost it can be rediscovered. And no authority owns the theory. The same can't be said for religion. It relies entirely on personal interpretation and it needs followers and apologists. If Christianity disappeared, some other distinct religion would replace it.

old comment by Nemo

Ray's entire argument in Evolution vs. God is basically that he doesn't understand taxonomy. He insists that every example of speciation witnessed doesn't count as evolution since there is no "change in kinds". Yet he never once defines what a kind is. King Crocoduck cornered him with this very question, and all he got were vague examples. Why, for example, are all dogs one kind? Are they the same kind as lycaons and foxes? If not, why not? What is the demarcation between the two "kinds" and how do you determine this? If these canines are all the same "kind", then are canids and ursids also the same "kind"? Why not?

How evolution actually works is descent with modification. No species will ever produce a species that is not a modified version of the predecessor. Homo sapiens are modified Homo erectus, who in turn was a modified Autralopith, who in turn was a modified ape. Domesticated dogs are modified wolves, who themselves are modified versions of a common ancestor with lycaons and coyotes, which itself was a modified version of a common ancestor with foxes, who in turn was a modified version of a common ancestor with bears, seals, and weasels. I am not an expert on biology by any means, and I can understand this. The only people who can't are those who openly swear oaths to not understand evolution (namely, those employed by every creationist organization out there).

As for Ray here, he was also pleased that Steve Shives did a read through of his books, sincerely claiming that people would convert because of that. Really.

Sometimes you have to wonder what Ray really thinks.

@J.T.

Most of the "movie" is Ray interviewing random college kids. There is maybe five minutes of quote mined interviews with professors, including P.Z. Meyers. Don't bother. As I mentioned before, though, King Crocoduck did a nice rebuttal to Ray's documentary, which more or less answers every one of his "points". Well worth watching.

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Ray, in videos, you've said "It's very, very clear" when asked how to tell the difference between "kinds".

As you're a person that appears to know so much about evolution, help me out. What "kind" is this?

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Are wolves and coyotes part of the same "kind"?

If you say, "Yes, they are both part of the dog "kind"", then humans and chimps are part of the same "kind", too. You see, wolf and coyote DNA differs by about six percent; human and chimp DNA differs by about two percent. I'm sure you won't accept that, because you you need an extremely nebulous definition of "kinds", so you can change it whenever you need to for whatever bullshit argument you're making at the time.

One more question, Ray: Are you an honest person? Yes or no?

There's a quote that says "When an honest man discovers that he is mistaken, he will either cease to be mistaken or cease to be honest."

As you have had your many mistakes about your understanding of evolution pointed out to you and are still spouting the same mistakes everywhere, you're dishonest; if you answered that question "Yes", you're also a liar. We already knew that, though.

old comment by Alencon

Four leading evolutionary scientists couldn't articulate any evidence? Let's see how I, just a Communications Engineer can do.

#1 - Let's start with DNA and the similarities between species that are close on the evolutionary tree such as chimps and humans. In particular consider the evidence of fused chromosone #2 in humans demonstrating why only humans, of all primates, have only 23 chromosone pairs.

#2 - Now let's move on to the geographic distribution of species and the evidence based upon geographic isolation such as the unique species found in Australia.

#3 - Next let's talk about taxonomy and the grouping of different species based upon similar characteristics and the map in the fossil record showing the development of characteristics over time.

#4 - Then we have the fossil record itself showing development over time of species and characteristics from relatively simple organisms to more complex ones. In the simplest explanation of biology the fossil record shows species that no longer exist today but are similar to species that exist today and no record of existing species. What do you suppose happened to those extinct species and where did modern species come from? That's a hint Ray.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

"backslid"

Yeah.

1- Being forced to apologise & admit your fundie 'Faith'-based educational ignorance FAIL, when it was pointed out to you that 'Bibliophile' =/= 'Paedophile'.

2- When he claimed that Gravity didn't exist in space, he was forced to admit that it does.

3- Strange is it not, how he never 'claims' that the Banana was as a result of a 'Creator' anymore, when it was pointed out to him that what we know today as the Banana was as a result of human intervention. If he so much as thinks of using his 'Irrefutable proof of Creation' again, he would therefore be argumentally cornered into admitting that we humans are God, ergo the old philosophical question 'Did God create man, or did Man create God?' is finally answered.

4- The 'Crockoduck'? Nope, not seeing that anymore, when Evolution - coupled with a healthy dose of 'Be Careful What You Wish For' hubris - revealed that your BS was essentially a case of 'Been There, Done That' with the revelation of the transitional form that is Spinosaurus. You then had to admit that the 'Crockoduck' was nothing more than 'A Joke'.

...because it's not as if you've ever resorted to 'Damage Limitation' yourself, instead of having to admit that you're wrong, and we Atheists are right, thus having no alternative but to admit defeat, recant of your 'beliefs' and become an Atheist.

It wouldn't kill you to do so. Just ask Jonathan Edwards. And before then, he never came out with the sorts of BS you have, so what's your excuse, Ray Cumfart?

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