[Cathy] Brennan puts her neck out and takes a lot of heat for being a vocal woman with an unpopular view that is held by many, many women. There is an obsession with Brennan in the pro-trans community, as though she invented the critique of gender and is the only person with the perspective she holds. This is not the case. As the trans community has demonstrated (http://feministninja.tumblr.com/post/48756677256/what-trans-activists-regularly-say-to-radfems ) time and again (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPayTWlAQ0k ), with Cathy being a prime example among many, expression of an unpopular opinion (within patriarchy, this is an opinion not sanctioned by males, including transwomen) makes a woman a target for aggression and abuse. The trans community has demonstrated this by threatening to kill, dismember, beat, and rape Cathy and countless other women who have spoken out against trans politics. I haven’t seen a single death or rape threat, ever, from a radical feminist to a pro-trans individual, and I have looked for them, while those coming from pro-trans people are literally innumerable to count. The accusations that we are hateful are projections. Those who threaten to rape and kill people are hateful (and probably male), not those who disagree with someone’s philosophy on life. As someone who knows Cathy a whole heck of a lot better than the writer of this original post, I attest that your “theory one” is incorrect. Her aim is to bring attention to the issue at hand. That’s a primary goal of activism. It’s not all about Cathy. The trans community has made it all about Cathy to deflect attention away from the content of what she is actually saying, a typical move made in patriarchal society when a woman speaks up at a volume unbecoming of “ladies.”
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Up here as much because I like to remind people the fruits of being a prick as for the content itself.
This folks, is why you don't be an asshole if you don't have to. All you do is further justify the views of the people you're fighting against.
Sure, I can believe there are a lot of toxic bitches and crisis kings within trans community... Hell, I personally know at least two and they are one of the worst you can get!
What I can`t believe is an absence of vitriol and threats on the radfem side, as from knowing any of you, I`ve yet to meet a single decent and balanced indyvidual within this group.
As to the rest of this, she`s clearly quite a few nuts short of a snickers bar.
edit:This is Skide btw, forgot to log in ^^
"males, including transwomen."
You lose right there. Males does NOT include transwomen. Saying so automatically makes you a bigot as bad as any KKK member who didn't actually participate in lynchings.
So I guess you personally want out of the 'L GBT' equation?
Which of course includes 'T': Transgender .
That new Civil Rights movement has support from feminists ; but I guess you want to be that special snowflake, eh?
There's few things I find more disgusting than a person who suffers and complains of bigotry, but is themselves an unashamed bigot.
Poor Cathy, she's like all those misunderstood white folks who hate niggers and Jews - its not about them personally, they're just trying to "bring attention to the issue at hand".
Sadly, people like this (by this I mean a member of an oppressed group who then turns around and calls for the heads of others) aren't as unusual as we might think.
Bigotry doesn't require you to have a high opinion of yourself, after all; it only requires you to have a low opinion of others. And it's entirely possible for you to be oppressed, and STILL have that low opinion of others if you haven't been taught universal human rights and shared vulnerability to suffering.
And you can always argue, "Well in MY case THEY really ARRRRRRRRRRE all evil! Collective punishment is acceptable when *my* group does it!"
I can think of certain parts of pop culture, like at least one video game franchise, that also suffers from this "we supposedly value empathy but we want the players to think collective punishment is reasonable and people who fight for universal human rights are insane" fickleness, so unfortunately this sort of hypocrisy is more common than we might like to believe.
@anevilmeme
I know what she's babbling about.
She is providing a link to incidents where trans people have sent threats to Cathy Brennan; this, admittedly, is a really bad move.
However, she is leaving out the context that would make Cathy look just as bad, as Cathy herself is guilty of doxxing people, writing letters to schools to harass trans people, etc.
Basically, there are a few people who have chosen a disproportionate response to Cathy's actions, and When Women Were Warriors is attempting to portray all trans people as equally bad by using these isolated incidents to demonize them.
Have I clarified the post?
@ anevilmeme
Cathy Brennan is a radical feminist who is opposed to the concept of transsexuality (both types) well past the point of obsession. She maintains several different blogs on this subject alone. ("Sorry about your penis" being one of the politer phrases she has used.) (Brennan has also harassed and 'outed' individual transsexuals, despite herself being a lesbian.)
WWWW is saying that transsexuals, who as you may suppose are not all that fond of Cathy Brennan, have personally attacked her in order to distract from what she is saying. (I do not doubt that Brennan has received disgusting threats, however, I do doubt that it is part of an organized campaign or representative of transsexuals in general.)
"I haven’t seen a single death or rape threat, ever, from a radical feminist to a pro-trans individual, and I have looked for them"
Poke around in our stores for a bit, I'm sure we have at least one.
An unpopular view, but one that's "held by many, many women"? Logically it can't be both, so which is it?
@#1744084
I'm not sure I should say which franchise, unfortunately, because it's actually quite a popular one, so I might step on some toes by being unflattering of it.
While deat threats are not ok, Brennan is a transphobic bitch who refuses to accept trans people and seems to think the only reason for someone to transition is to gain access to female spaces to rape.
The accusations that we are hateful are projections
And that's a flat lie, an attempt to poison the well so you don't have to answer for your hateful bigotry. You're like the person who says "I'm not a racist but..." and then comes out with something massively racist. You think just saying you're not hateful overrules the stacks of clear evidence of you being hateful bitches to transwomen (who are not men, you bigoted shitbag).
Stick the Tumblrinas and the Brennanites in a room, lock all doors and windows, station cameras...presumably hire good lawyers to avoid being charged with creating a snuff film...and then, enjoy.
Cathy Brennan considers any criticism or Twitter banter directed at her to be "harassment," and any actual harassment on her part "self-defense." On multiple occasions she has contacted trans women's doctors (including one who was treating his patient for a PTSD attack), teamed up with the right-wing religious Pacific Justice Institute to out a trans minor (and refused to take down the information even when she was on suicide watch), sent emails to a trans woman's employer to get her fired, and on many occasions has searched for trans women's nudes to post publicly to her blog so she can make fun of how they look. There is a reason why there is a push to have her and her allies classified as hate groups.
You will meet a surprisingly large amount of downright evil transbitches if you run with the LGBT side of the social justice movement. Women and men who wave their protected status among online groups like a cudgel to bash in the heads of any who dare disagree with them. Hell, I've met three of them who retort "It's cause I'm trans, isn't it?!" when you disagree with them on anything, not just on trans issues. But evil transbitches don't represent their entire group anymore than radfems represent feminists.
Hey radfems, what do you call a transwoman?
A woman!
I don't care if you're a venus with a penis or a fella with a vulva; if you're acting like an ass people are going to call you an ass. Making it all about your gender gives anti-trans assholes more ammo.
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