If we managed to overcome men’s tyranny over us, how would we rebuild our world? I just want to throw some ideas here that I often come across these days. I dream for concrete, down-to-earth, simple and easily applicable measures of stepping out of patriarchy into a female-loving, biophilic world. This isn’t by any means a realistic plan of how to achieve it, but just reading it makes me feel happy. It makes it feel more real, more possible. Enjoy!
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FAMILY, CHILD-RAISING AND REPRODUCTION
It’s the inalienable right of each woman to control every phase of her reproduction and life creation. Abortion will be possible at any stage of pregnancy, however there will hardly be such a thing as undesired pregnancy since there won’t be any men forcing pregnancies on us any more. Abortion will nonetheless be recognised for the trauma, mutilation and loss of life that it is. The number of children and human population will naturally decrease to sustainable levels, so will the number of males born. Women will be free to experiment parthenogenesis or procreation with two female eggs.
The nuclear family will be abolished, in particular the parent’s property rights and absolute power over her child. Children will be considered as persons in need for autonomy and all form of punishment, authority or educational manipulation over children will equally be abolished. Raising and caring for children will be a collective responsibility for women, and motherhood / childcare and especially capacity to be empathetic towards children will be taken very seriously, as something that needs to be (re)learned and studied over years before being fully competent for this immense task.
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Why does Disind even add stuff like this? Sure it's cray-cray, but there is no reference to religion of any kind. How is this "fundie"?
This site is become more and more "Crazy people say the darnest things", and IMO it makes the site 1) less poignant and 2) less fun.
I like the last part, or at least what it says about punishment and asserting parental superiority. I oppose child-hitting on principle and believe that parents do not always "know best" and that children should be able to develop as informed and prepared citizens.
The rest is nuts, though.
Not every women is like you. Whats up with all these "kill all men" "all women should use parthenogenesis" thinking more than 2/3 of the female population will join them?
Some women LOVE men, some women LOVE their man, some women LOVE their son. Only a select few of crazy, stupid women off their meds think that females are superior and that men should be slaves to a matriarchy.
No sex is superior.
not every unintentional pregnancy is the result of force, either. sometimes fertile people have sex for fun and luck out with their prophylactics, simple as that.
in fact, i suspect that's the majority of unintentional pregnancies, even.
"Why does Disind even add stuff like this? Sure it's cray-cray, but there is no reference to religion of any kind. How is this "fundie"?
So much of what gets posted should go to racists say the darndest things. Most of the more atrocious posts have been by WyckedWitch, now we have another witch cluttering the front page with crap.
I come here every now and then out of habit, but the place has gotten exponentially worse every year since WinAce died.
Without men, you won't have a world, or rather, the world won't have humans in it. Probably the best that could happen to all other life-forms (except human-specific parasites, perhaps, but they will soon evolve to fit some other host).
Fatherhood is a myth?
There will be women sneaking off to have secret relations with men, silly, so there will be unplanned pregnancies, even in your "utopia".
Reading that didn't make me feel happy, at all. equality with men.
There is no such thing as fatherhood as we all know, it’s a myth.
As a parent of two wonderful children and who loves them very much, FUCK YOU!
If fatherhood is a myth, then WTF am I doing taking my daughter to day care and picking up both of my children from same in the afternoon? Why do I get them dressed in the morning, take them potty, and tuck them in bed at night? Why do I take my son on camping trips? Why do I teach him the ABC's? Why do I answer the multitude of questions he has about the world? Why do I comfort them when they fall down and skin a knee?
Sorry, but she really touched a nerve with that statement.
"There is no such thing as fatherhood as we all know, it’s a myth."
It's a good thing you said this isn't by any means realistic, because I would have called you all kinds of stupid for that one statement.
> There is no such thing as fatherhood as we all know, it’s a myth.
You do know how babies are usually made, don't you?
That wind. Over there. Over the cliff. Go chase after it.
Bad puns aside, though, uuuhhh... this is, like, a whole bucketful of crazy. Perhaps even a sinkful. Heck, maybe even a tankful.
And how in the hell do you think THAT's gonna work? Heterosexual women tend to enjoy their husband's company and partnership, sometimes even their clumsy attempts at sex! I oughta know, I have a wife who tolerates me CONSTANTLY!
Oh well. Landfill of crazy, this one.
Somehow manages say "Kill all the men" while holding Victorian views on female kind. I love it. "Women are perfect. Women are the only ones who should care with children. Women will make everything great!" Reminds me of the Patriarchy guys who make men sound like raving animals.
Honestly this seems less like misandry than taking the Patriarchy claims to heart, thus assuming you can fix the world by murdering/enslaving men who are clearly just rape beasts. It's kind of glorious how effective the Patriarchy is on warping people. Even these misandrists still simply are following the model they created. I mean, even the idea that men clearly shouldn't be fathers. That's not a thing, it's just a myth. sounds very patriarchy.
@AnnaB
Fundamentalist is defined loosely, and is focused on extreme points of unbendable views, not merely on religious fundamentalists.
"The nuclear family will be abolished"
...in favour of the Fusion Family [/JET ]. And if the scientists at CERN get it right, even that could be superceded by the Antimatter Family. [/hyper-smartarse]
Witchfart would go all head 'splody over the anime series "Vandread ", though. How three of the female pirate ship's crew in particular want to 'merge' with Hibiki Tokai: and not just ship/mecha-wise, neither...!
'Uchuujin-san...!' X3
So we get a world full of self- entitled, spoiled -rotten girls pretending to be lesbians and worrying that something is wrong with them because they like men(who would propably be in Zoos). Yeah, sounds good.
I love this, obviously men are the cause of all evil in the world, obviously once we get rid of men nobody will oppress anybody ever again, obviously there has never been a woman who was ever even remotely mean to somebody.
Some people are power-hungry assholes, sometimes they're men, sometimes they're women, as evidenced by witchwind here and her genocidal fantasies.
So let me get this straight. This radfem who wants to abolish patriarchy and its constricting gender roles for women... Wants to establish a system that essentially forces women to assume collective responsibility for the care of the world's children? Isn't that only perpetuating the gender role of women = mothers? What about the women who don't want to have anything to do with children, Witchwind? Or those who can only love their own?
In patriarchy a woman is only expected to care for her family's children. Under Witchwind's regime however a woman will be expected to care not only for her family's children but also for the entire world's population of children.
What feminist progress that would be /sarcasm.
Strangely, this isn't the first radfem I've read who thinks that human parthenogenesis is possible. I suppose that with the aid of some very skilled scientists and a laboratory it might indeed be possible, but as far as I can tell they think it can happen naturally.
One major downside of parthenogenesis is that the offspring are even more in-bred than those of a brother and sister.
there will hardly be such a thing as undesired pregnancy since there won’t be any men forcing pregnancies on us any more
So women will only have sex with men when they want a baby? Here's a clue: heterosexual women actually enjoy sex with men.
++"Children will be considered as persons in need for autonomy and all form of punishment, authority or educational manipulation over children will equally be abolished."
And so your incredibly foolish dream would die in two generations, at best.
@AnnaB There have been a lot of people calling for a Sexists Say The Darndest Things section for the radfems and MRAs, but nothing has come of it yet. You could say that zealously stupid opinions belong here regardless of subject matter, but then why don't we put the racists and conspiracy theorists in with the fundies?
People like this often call themselves feminists, people like this are why feminism gets a bad image. Yet people deny they exist and allow feminism to be corrupted from inside...
Can't we just nuke everyone and start over?
Somebody has been reading a little too much Ecotopia...
Seriously, for anyone who hasn't read it, don't. You might get some cheap laughs from the stupidity but half of it will bore you to tears.
Actually, looking back, I could have posted the entire blog post here. Every bit of it is crazy, I just picked the craziest. Take a look at it. That sizzling sound? It's your neurons frying.
love this, obviously men are the cause of all evil in the world...
in a metallic voice:
objective... find evil
This isn’t by any means a realistic plan of how to achieve it, but just reading it makes me feel happy.
Then you are in desperate need of a psych evaluation. The goal of Feminism wasn't to assert female superiority, it was to create equality
Stop giving the rest of us a bad name.
As a woman, I can not imagine a world without men - and I don't want to. My sons and husband are every bit as precious to me as my daughter. I truly believe that the majority of humans (men included) are decent people. Somewhere in your experience you've had some trauma and decided that every man you meet is a potential abuser. I'm sorry for whatever happened to you, but you really need to gain some perspective.
There is no such thing as fatherhood as we all know, it’s a myth
Your parents have had The Talk with you, right?
Women will be free to experiment parthenogenesis or procreation with two female eggs.
The first is flatly impossible, the second would require very skilled scientists and a timeline of years to make work.
Children will be considered as persons in need for autonomy and all form of punishment, authority or educational manipulation over children will equally be abolished. Raising and caring for children will be a collective responsibility for women
This part here bothers me more than the usual men-are-evil-rapist-pig-beasts crap.
Something about the way she words it makes me think she's the kind of parent that dumps their kids off at a department store and says she'll be back in three hours, calling it free-range childrearing instead of parental abandonment/neglect.
Josh Buggar.
Just he alone has made the 'Nuclear' Family not only obsolete, but with his fundie Christain hypocrisy - and how his is far more toxic than Chernobyl - fundie families have no right to exist: if his represents the 'moral' alternative.
As opposed to, say, the likes of Sir Elton John, David Furnish & their two sons.
The Fusion Family.
In Mexico recently, we've had - via a British-invented process - the beginnings of the Antimatter Family.
Get with the times, Witchfart.
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