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Jennifer- I wonder have you ever sought to know Jesus Christ? As a trained mental health professional, I can say from my 20 yrs experience, mental health does not remove personality disorders nor does it heal depression, suicidality, etc. yes- mental health can provide some support,and docs can give drugs to stabilize But only being in a relationship with Jesus can totally heal mental health issues. While this opinion will bother and annoy many, I have found it to be the truth.

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anothga

mental health does not remove personality disorders nor does it heal depression, suicidality, etc.
That's like saying body health does not remove illnesses. Of course mental health doesn't remove personality disorders etc. Are you taking the person you're talking with for an idiot?
Are you suggesting Jesus is a cure to those disorders, depression, etc.? Did FDA approve this Jesusophine you're talking about?

8/22/2014 4:07:32 AM

ConcernedCultist

Talk about autism. Jesus can't change what signals are passing between neurons, can he?

8/22/2014 4:16:36 AM

Mister Spak

"As a trained mental health professional, I can say from my 20 yrs experience"

You're a floor-mopper in a mental hospital?

"While this opinion will bother and annoy many,"

Worse than that, it makes the patients condition worse.
Good thing you're only a floor mopper and not actually treating patients.

8/22/2014 4:27:56 AM

Hasan Prishtina

Give your attitudes, it's small wonder that in your 20 years as a mental health professional, you've never found what you've practised to be of any use. I think your clients and their insurance companies are owed their money back.

8/22/2014 4:35:42 AM

Kuno

As a trained mental health professional,

Judging by the way you use the phrase “mental health”, I seriously doubt that. Are you sure that you aren’t lying for Jesus?

8/22/2014 4:50:08 AM

Swede

Are you sure you don't mean "mental health patient"? A real professional would probably look at religion as a slight delusion, a sort of mental comfy-blanket for people who have trouble handling the real world.

8/22/2014 5:06:34 AM

JeanP

The Komisarjevskys tried with "faith-based methods" to cope with their adoptive son being raped by their foster son, much to the delight of the Connecticut citizens.

8/22/2014 5:31:56 AM

Doubting Thomas

only being in a relationship with Jesus can totally heal mental health issues.

No, it just replaces one delusion with another. Ever see the most fanatical God-botherers? They don't exactly come off as sane.

I hope this guy gets his license revoked, if he is what he says he is. He's obviously conducting malpractice with an attitude like that.

8/22/2014 5:38:56 AM

KittyKaboom

You're a lying sack of condensed cat shit. I'd much rather put my health in the hands of an actual doctor than wait around until I'm at the precipice of suicide for your god to intervene. Not only does he have shitty smiting aim, he has a tendency to let people languish and die.

Fuck you. And him.

8/22/2014 7:05:53 AM

SpukiKitty

Hearing what the OP said, I highly doubt s/he was ever a psychiatrist/psychologist.

Then again, you have Dr. Keith Ablow (psychologist) & that open-carry weirdo who went to an airport terminal supposedly for coffee (neurological researcher). Theodore "V.D" Beale is allegedly a MENSA member & there have been scientists/doctors who turned their back on reality & everything they knew to embrace Creationism or some other weirdness.

I guess the lesson is, even otherwise, highly educated people can say & do the most idiotic things or follow the stupidest ideologies if they're sociopathic enough.

That said, THIS guy is likely....
(a la 'Bringin' In The Sheaves')
LYIN' FER DA LARD!
LYIN' FER DA LARD!
OH MAH GOURD HE LYYYYYIIINNNG!
LYIN' FER DA LAAAAARD!

8/22/2014 7:27:27 AM

Thinking Allowed

Funny, as a mental health professional, you should know it's not called "suicidality".

8/22/2014 7:29:07 AM

dfmfundies

@ Thinking Allowed (#1700194):

... you should know it's not called "suicidality".

Actually, it is. Here are the titles of some studies that use it:

Suicidality and risk of suicide--definition, drug safety concerns, and a necessary target for drug development: a consensus statement. J Clin Psychiatry. 2010 Aug;71(8)

Suicidality in Pediatric Patients Treated With Antidepressant Drugs. Arch Gen Psychiatry. 2006;63(3):332-339

Discovery and validation of blood biomarkers for suicidality. Molecular Psychiatry (2013) 18, 1249–1264

8/22/2014 7:49:04 AM

Evgir Unslaad

The insidious thing about mental disorders is that they affect such a complicated organ. Of course no one therapy is going to work for everyone, and personality disorders are one of the most stubborn types. I can say that, comparing myself now to myself in high school, yes, I am doing much better. Jesus has nothing to do with it.

8/22/2014 8:13:53 AM

Insult to Rocks

I thought Jesus healed lepers, not schizophrenics.

8/22/2014 8:29:42 AM

rubber chicken

Meh, I've met a whole bunch of health professionals who could be described as 'mental'

8/22/2014 9:04:27 AM

keppie

As a trained mental health professional myself, you're full of [something or other] and probably violating your client's rights in some fashion.

Resolution of one's spiritual needs (in whatever means is most suitable for the person) is indeed an important part of mental health. A legitimate mental health professional will strive to assist the patient in finding this for him/herself without pushing any particular answer. Encouraging a client to attend the house of worship of his or her choice or to examine the "big questions" of life from his or her specific perspective is very appropriate.

Or have I been brainwashed by my holistic and inclusive MSW training?

8/22/2014 9:20:35 AM

Papabear

Bullsh*t. I'd bet dollars to dead ants you're not any form of a true mental health professional.

My experiences show that addiction to Jesus only masks some of the symptoms of mental illnesses and often only temporarily.

8/22/2014 9:39:23 AM

Sasha

Seeing the behavior of Christian fundies, I really doubt that Jesus has done anything for their mental health.

8/22/2014 9:47:22 AM

John

But only being in a relationship with Jesus can totally heal mental health issues

Gee, if Jesus can heal mental health issues, why can't he heal cancer? I know plenty of good Christians who've had a relationship with Jesus and died in agony anyway. The morphine did a lot more to help them than praying to Jesus did.

8/22/2014 10:07:06 AM

Reaper Penemuel

"20 yrs experience"
So either he's lying or disregarded those 20 years completely.

8/22/2014 10:11:44 AM

freako104

It bothers and annoys because

1) you won't leave others alone about it

2) do you have proof it works or are you lying?

3) real mdntal health professionals know to keep up with what is in journals, experiments and results. You and your ilk rely on one thing. That may or may not work

8/22/2014 10:30:01 AM

Warren McIntosh

Annoyingly, there is actually a grain of truth in this. The 12 step system (AA and all its related groups) for dealing with addiction and related disorders is based on the person referencing a 'higher power'. This higher power can be anything (nature or fate for instance) but for many westerners it is naturally the christian god as that is what they are familiar with. Basically (very basically) the theory is that the underlying problem giving rise to the addictive behaviour (ie why they drink or eat or whatever to escape reality) is related to childhood experiences, especially with family or adult authority figures, in particular not being unconditionally loved as a child should be. The 'higher power' takes the place of the loving parents (I think this has alot to do with the popularity of religion generally, even for healthy people) and allows them to fill the gap and thus move on with life in a more healthy way.

Basically, for a very ill individual, the comfort and more importantly the strength gained by thinking a loving entity is watching over/protecting/guiding them can make all the difference between recovery and topping yourself. I have seen this work, it is extreamly effective.

That said, it aint Jesus what does it -the 'higher power' can be anything and anything works just as well as anything else. Also, it doesnt actually 'heal' issues - just puts in place a supportive framework within which recovery is, for many, more of a possiblity.

8/22/2014 10:31:32 AM

keppie

As a trained mental health professional myself, you're full of [something or other] and probably violating your client's rights in some fashion.

Resolution of one's spiritual needs (in whatever means is most suitable for the person) is indeed an important part of mental health. A legitimate mental health professional will strive to assist the patient in finding this for him/herself without pushing any particular answer. Encouraging a client to attend the house of worship of his or her choice or to examine the "big questions" of life from his or her specific perspective is very appropriate.

Or have I been brainwashed by my holistic and inclusive MSW training?

8/22/2014 11:29:51 AM

creativerealms

Funny thing is in my stress/anxiety group maybe half the group are very religious. Their mental health still needs help.

8/22/2014 11:39:09 AM

breakerslion

If it's all the same to you, I'll pursue being in a relationship to Wonder Woman. As fictional magic characters go, she's way more my type.

Since when is believing in, and talking to, invisible friends not considered to be a mental health issue, BTW?

8/22/2014 11:53:40 AM

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