If one is to believe the universe is 14 billion years old, and the earth is at least 2 million years old, did we also evolve from common ancestor (A) of monkey's? Are we actually to believe the insane scientists who have been blinded from the truth? The devil is the father of lies, working day and night to do anything he can to prove God wrong. If we don't believe in God, why should we believe in the devil? And if we don't believe in the devil he can do anything he likes to us. Like Keith Green's awesome song "Lies", where he says "no one believes in me anymore" referring to the devil.
God said he has made the universe in six days, is that to say God was lying? Or perhaps he was inferring to 6 million, or 6 billion years? No. It's irrational, illogical, and completely founded in lies from the father of lies. The universe was created the same week as humans were and we definitely haven't been around for 14 billion years. To say that because light is finite, the Universe HAS to be also "at least" 14 billion years old is a flawed human logic. Is God finite? Is God not omnipresent, bigger than the whole universe? He's the creator, he is not limited by man's logic or his box and we are all fools if we don't believe him and instead believe the lie, from the father of lies.
Yellowstone is going to blow one day no matter what the liar's want to say. As if I'm to believe the "scientists" who are being funded by this completely "honest and well respected" administration, who also happens to actually pay Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid a salary. The father of lies is running this administration, and it just gets under my skin. By the way, God's not real according to scientists. Just look at the supposed "God Particle". Blasphemy.
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1. It wasn't God who said it, it is the Bible that says it. As long as you cannot prove that the Bible is the literal word of God, your argument is not valid.
The Earth is about 4 billion years old, silly. The genus Pan split from the genus Homo more than 2 million years ago, and Apes split from Old World Monkeys some 30 million years ago, so the Earth must be much, much older than that.
Scientists are not the insane blinded ones, stupid; you fundies are.
God didn't say that he did that; a musty old book, translated again and again, says that he did it. The Bible is a myth, it's not meant to be taken literally, stupid. It was only when people in general started learning to read that literal interpretation began.
Your grasp of science seems to be on par with your grasp of religion; very poor indeed, that is.
The father of lies ran the former administration, I'd say (the one before 2009).
OK, OK. Just get mental help and stop boring the shit out of the rest of us. Typing up your delusions and ignorance may help you vent on a personal level, but other people could be infected with your illness.
The only remotely accurate statement in this screed is "the universe is 14 billion years old "
Unreal. This is weapons grade ignorance.
Oh, and "Yellowstone is going to blow one day no matter what the liar's want to say ."
Who the hell asserts that the Yellowstone Caldera , that we know has had three caldera creating supereruptions as well as having typical vulcanism in the past, won't go active again?
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(the blue arrow indicates the direction the North American Plate is moving over the hotspot)
"God" didn't say shit. A bunch of guys wrote in a book that God did something, edited it further for political purposes, and claimed it was non-fiction. What is so hard to believe? Do you also think a man named Ahab chased a giant albino whale to the ends of the earth? Or that once upon a time a young girl named Carrie set a gymnasium on fire with her mind after an incident involving prom and pig blood?
I fear for mankind's future and that a second flood will soon inundate the planet. But where will all the water come from? Well, drool is over 90% water, isn't it? I think it's gonna be a slimy sort of flood.
"God said he has made the universe in six days, is that to say God was lying?"
Where did he say that? There is a proported quote from gob to that affect in the bible, but then the bible has been re-written more often then George Bush's reasons for invading Iraq.
"God said he has made the universe in six days, is that to say God was lying? Or perhaps he was inferring to 6 million, or 6 billion years?"
Or if he's that 'Omnipotent ', why not 6 hours, 6 minutes, 6 seconds, 6 nanoseconds or less ?
And he could just 'poof' all the animal life into being, yet he wasn't 'Omnipotent' enough to do exactly the same for the first humans? A 'God' who limits his 'Omnipotence' in any way is no God, therefore you've proved he doesn't exist, RR.
"Is God not omnipresent, bigger than the whole universe? He's the creator, he is not limited by man's logic or his box"
...but he wasn't 'Omnipresent ' enough to see those Iron Chariots coming, eh? Or 'Omniscient enough to know of their manufacture in the future even before he 'created' humans, certainly those who had foresight enough to use that self-imposed exploit in the Bible - Judges 1:19 - and way before said Scriptural exploit was known about, nor their knowing (subconsciously, perhaps?) that Iron is to God what Kryptonite is to Superman*.
(Part II):
...oh, and I'm afraid:
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...that your 'God' is limited by the above box. An Iron box, known as the British Challenger II. Which country invented - using man's logic - in WWI what would become the modern-day Iron Chariot, Ruptured Retards?
Holy Plot Holes, Batman!
*- Supes may not be able to see through Lead, but at least he can see it. Therefore Iron is Stealth material to God. Thus he's not God, therefore he's a contradiction to himself, ergo he doesn't exist. All sentient beings have a weakness. No Exceptions.
@Kuno
Or...:
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...Lucifer ('Satan') is actually the good guy in all of this, and God is the Evil One; the 'Deceiver' (thus the 'Mystery' of the Bible explained). The facts of the Literal 'Word of God' don't lie : Killing more than your supposed 'enemy' makes you less 'evil' than him... how ? Thanks for the great advert for Satanism, Raptards. [/hyper-paradox]
...and I've yet to so much as kill just one person to date, nor do I want to, ever. Thanks for proving that I'm more than infinitely superior to God - in every way imaginable - RR. >:D
Regarding the Yellowstone supervolcano, it was scientists who discovered it, and scientists who made the prediction that it would blow at some point in the future. Fundamentalists shouting death and destruction latched onto their prediction after it had been made. Get your own geology.
So, we should believe nonsense or the nonsense can do anything it likes to us? I'm going to believe 3 is 7 so that the 3 can't control me.
P.S. Yellowstone is going to blow one day because God loves us.
Uhm. Leave it to RR to churn out an incoherent mess of "goddits" and "satandidits." How's this jump from the age of the universe to evolution to Yellowstone to politics?
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Okay, scientists are the ones who stated that Yellowstone houses a mega volcano that can erupt with catastrophic results. The holy babble certainly doesn't say anything about it. Scientists also developed the instruments that are monitoring the volcanic activity in Yellowstone. So, it's fine to believe science on that point-- yet claim that scientists deny it, for some reason-- while simultaneously dismissing scientific research simply because it "goes against" gawd. Logical.
Are we actually to believe the insane scientists who have been blinded from the truth?
No, we're to believe a book by some anonymous Bronze Age Arabs that says the universe was poofed into existence by magic [/sarcasm].
God said he has made the universe in six days, is that to say God was lying?
No, God didn't say that. One book written by humans says he has made the universe in six days. Dozens of other books say something different. That's to say, the people who wrote these books were lying, or at least making stuff up.
By the way, God's not real according to scientists.
Some scientists believe in God, some don't, just like non-scientists. Evolution doesn't disprove the existence of God any more than the theory of gravity or quantum theory do. Evolution does disprove a literal interpretation of Genesis as science; but most mainstream Christians don't believe that anyway.
As if I'm to believe the "scientists" who are being funded by this completely "honest and well respected" administration, who also happens to actually pay Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid a salary.
This is one of the stupidest things I've read in a while. I'm sure the presidential administration has some influence over what science gets funding, but it's not like whenever the presidency changes hands the scientists currently getting funding are cut off and an entirely new set of scientists are brought in. This isn't the cabinet, and there aren't enough scientists out there to remotely make that scenario happen. I'm sure there are many scientists espousing such "blasphemous" views who were funded by Bush II, Bush I, Reagan, probably even going back to Nixon or earlier.
The bit about members of Congress is almost worse. If you're elected to Congress, you get paid your salary no matter who's sitting in the White House (or who controls your house of Congress). The executive branch would never have control over payment of the legislative branch, because that would completely and utterly wreck the separation of powers. Reid and Pelosi were paid by both Bush administrations as well as Reagan's, by the way.
Okay, buuut...
Satan did a really good job at placing all this evidence around for us to discover. It is almost as if god is impotent, you know, like he can't get it up. Now there is blasphemy for you. Why don't you put me on the rack?
I am getting tired of this shit.
The father of lies is running this administration
Obama is the originator of the belief that the world and humanity wasn't created in a week? Is there no end to the qualities of our omniscient, time-traveling president?
Yellowstone is going to blow one day no matter what the liar's want to say.
I checked the Bible, but I couldn't find the passage that talks about Yellowstone. So what are you basing your prediction on? Walking around in Yellowstone certainly won't give one the impression that it's "going to blow one day," so where did you get that notion?
Oh, yes, you got it from the same geologists that say the earth is billions of years old. Are you actually to believe the insane scientists who have been blinded from the truth? ;-)
Oh, and the Bible says people who use an apostrophe to designate the plural will all go to Hell.
Why believe the people who have devoted their entire lives to studying the subject when it comes to matters of biology, when we have super genius Bygrace96 on Rapture Ready to tell us what actually happened? Amazing that you are able to debunk entire fields of science with nothing more than a high school education and an armchair!
If we get get you lot off two delusions you might have some redeemable insights to offer.
God didn't write the Bible, men did, many men and it was compiled (edited, revised)by many more. It has false statements and contradictions between the books, it is the consensus among Biblical scholars (again, real scholars, none of which reside in fundamentalism)that it's not to be taking literally.
Science is merely reporting its ACTUAL findings. It is not out to play GOTCHA with Christians it just has a system that relies of factual evidence. If it doesn't match your Bible it's not doing it just to be contrary.
P.S. Someone a little while back, apparently in an official standing made a statement to the press that findings show Yellowstone should be stable for perhaps a thousand years (sorry, don't have the link). A few days later they had increased rumblings for awhile.
FRUM SEZ: "I didn't come from no monkey! I came from DIRT!"
These guys are ridiculous! They revile the idea of being a primate or "coming from goo" yet they're fine with coming from dirt & rib bone.
@LAchlan
"and the earth is at least 2 million years old,"
The earth is at lest 3 million years old.
"God said he has made the universe in six days, is that to say God was lying?"
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@ Violet Beauregarde:
That was awful and you should be ashamed.
OK, I admit, I groaned and then chuckled. Mass, heh.
@ Mister Spak:
Wow, I never noticed that the Genesis Device looked quite that
phallic. It seems somehow fitting, as it is supposed to spread the seed of life.
"God said he has made the universe in six days, is that to say God was lying? Or perhaps he was inferring to 6 million, or 6 billion years?"
I'm a bit confused--is your argument that god can't count and therefore can't tell the difference between 6, 6 million and 6 billion, or that god doesn't know the difference between days and years?
"If we don't believe in God, why should we believe in the devil?"
Exactly! So shut the fuck up about "You atheists worship the devil!"
We don't worship things we don't believe in, just like you probably don't worship Zeus. Or you probably don't worship the Polynesian god Lono. Or you probably don't worship Bigfoot.
Your god and your devil are YOUR BELIEFS, get it? WE DONT BELIEVE IN EITHER OF THEM!
"And if we don't believe in the devil he can do anything he likes to us. "
Are you implying if you believe in the devil that your belief somehow will stop him from doing anything he wants to you? Seriously?
We don't believe in your devil because there's no evidence that he exists. Sure, evil exists, but people are evil. We don't accept that our lack of belief in the devil somehow means he can do whatever he wants to us, any more than Zeus can do anything wants to us, or Lono can do anything he wants to us, or Bigfoot can do anything he wants to us. Do you seriously believe Zeus can do anything he wants to you because you don't believe in him? Seriously?
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