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Quote# 143009

My doctor is threatening me now. He has twice so far refused to be my doctor anymore unless I subject myself to other medical treatments, which I have already undergone, which were worthless, and didn't help me at all. It's a big racket! Now they want me to subject myself to physical therapy AGAIN. I suffered through 5 months of that torture and nonsense. They gave me an electric battery-powered box that buzzes on my neck, as a pain alternative. I THREW IT INTO MY GARBAGE PAIL WHERE IT BELONGS! I paid $100 for that crap! That is the insanity of doctors today! Kindly, they surely do earn the derogatory title of QUACKS! Another doctor sent me to a chiropractor, who handed me a donut-shaped magnet to hang around my neck, to help alleviate my pain. THAT WENT INTO MY GARBAGE PAIL TOO, WHERE IT BELONGS! Magnets don't alleviate chronic pain! You're an idiot if you think it does, as much as the idiot doctor who insults you by handing it to you in the first place. Folks, nothing helps alleviate pain like good ole pain medications, which is why GOD GAVE US OPIUM! Is that so hard to figure out? The people dying from opioids are ABUSING DRUGS AND ALCOHOL! That is how actor Heath Ledger died in 2008, from illegally taking a cocktail of prescription drugs that he had no business taking!

Anyway, it's difficult just to get by from day-to-day. It all comes from my neck. I am sick of all this crap from the doctors. I will get street drugs if they cut my medications. I'll move wherever I need too to obtain them. As I type, the toothache-like pain in my neck is terrible and there's nothing I can do. The pain radiates into my facial area. The dull, aching, pain behind my eyes is awful. The entire facial area is sore. In 2011, I was taking 160 mg per day of prescription Oxycontin for chronic pain, and no one complained at all!!! Now in 2019, they've got me down to 80 mg per day and they're still complaining. I don't know how much more of this I can take!

People just don't understand. I try to force myself to go places and do things, but it is difficult. I feel overwhelmed. I look fine outwardly, but inwardly I am physically hurting horribly. My wife cruelly abandoned and divorced me 13 years ago, and I seriously doubt if I'll ever have a girlfriend or be married again, because I cannot find a wife anywhere. I have looked high and low, but there is no one. And of course, she would have to be someone that can get along with me, not a sassy brat with a big mouth, who thinks she knows it all, like my x-wife. Proverbs 31:10-12, “Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies. The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil. She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life. I once found such a woman, at Hyles-Anderson College, but she married another man, and it haunts me to this day. She was voted Miss Highlander, but I foolishly didn't reach out to her. The curse of my life has been my fear of simply telling others how I feel. If you understand that, you'll then understand why I have such a big mouth in cyberspace, I am tired of being silent. I have something to say now! I have never been blessed with a Proverbs 31 wife. Most women today are a Genesis 3 woman, destroying her own family.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 4 Comments [3/26/2019 4:10:59 PM]
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Quote# 143008

Today's Laugh 3-26-19

(Picture shows in the corner a CNN broadcast titled "Mueller Strikes Out". In the foreground is Obama, unconscious, and Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders geting drunk.)

Mick Williams, Disqus - Faith & Religion 3 Comments [3/26/2019 4:10:04 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 142986

GOD DAMN AMERICA AND GOD DAMN GUAM! They abort children here just as much! Queers and transvestites are all over the place on Guam, and they are fully supported by local businesses and the government. Guam is whore city at the beaches! And if you want an actual whore, lower Tumon is full of whore houses, just go to 90% of the massage parlors. They do this for the wonderful U.S. military, full of whoremongers! It matters not if it is a female from a local Baptist church, or a Korean prostitute, they all dress THE SAME, wearing pants! I'm just telling it like it is folks.

The courts on Guam are quick to arrest citizens for every little offense, but the whore houses are privileged, and for the sake of the U.S. military, the authorities look the other way. Shhhh, it's a secret! There's not a local man on Guam who doesn't know what I just told you, because it's not a secret, nobody cares, that's all. Strip joints are legal on Guam, and no clothes at all are required for the strippers. Great place to live, huh? I say that facetiously, Guam is a very sinful place! As much as I loath the Roman Catholic Church cult, some of the best people on Guam are Catholics, who have fought hard to keep the ungodly gambling casinos out, and I am happy for that! The local Catholics have also fought hard against abortion, even compelling a local abortion clinic to close its doors! Amen for that! Sadly, the local Baptist churches have DONE NOTHING to help as far as I can tell. They must operate like the whore houses, in secret! I am a Baptist, and I am ashamed of my own churches.

If you are a woman and wear pants, I do not condemn you. In this time of woeful debauchery and wickedness, most pastors have backed off on the pants issue, figuring they are fortunate enough just to have a congregation. However, that is not a valid excuse for not upholding proper dress standards for women and men. Someone needs to speak up for modesty, virtue is not dead! Just because nearly everyone else is an ingrate, indifferent, immoral, greedy, selfish, dishonest and immodest, doesn't make it right! I fall in love every time I see a Baptist woman in culottes or a long dress. My heart longs for such a wife. I am wondering if there is anyone like that left anymore, because the next day I see the same woman, she is wearing tight sexy black spandex in public. She's a whore at heart! Yes, this is the era of the Christian whore!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 3 Comments [3/26/2019 4:06:36 PM]
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Quote# 142983

The anti Trump forces are evil. They are Satan's tool to keep up the butchering of the unborn. (And now the new born)

Reynolds, BaptistBoard 1 Comments [3/26/2019 4:06:17 PM]
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Submitted By: Kang

Quote# 143005


Macrophallism is an indisposition or condition defined by an erect penile length measuring 2.5 SD+ more than average. Although the macropenis is defined by being something abnormal, the ubiquity of porn has made macrophallism seem normal. This has resulted in a lot of angst and shame for 90% of men who don't measure up. Macrophallism may be normal for tapirs, which are South American herbivorous mammals who have penises so long they sometimes accidentally hit themselves in the face with it. Nonetheless, tapirs are pretty mch shortcels. That's where horses come in. Horses are pretty tall and they are also pretty well hung. Is it a coincidence that horses are seen as sacred in the western world?

In the incelosphere, macrophallism is wdely consider to be a trait held by gigachads. Since most guys can't live up to this standard, we now have phenomenon such as double stuffing, whereby a woman has a threesome with two men inserting their dicks into one vag. Although the average erect circumference is 4.6 inches, combined, they become 9.2 inches of girth.

Incel Wiki, Incel Wiki 9 Comments [3/26/2019 10:31:49 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 143004


Misogysteria is exaggerated or uncontrollable moaning about misogyny. It is also a propaganda tactic used by misandric radfems who wish to shut down debate about issues that face men. A person with this angst is called a misogysteriac.

Misogysteriacs tend to have a tendency whereby they see misogyny even when such a designation is a stretch.

Incel Wiki, Incel Wiki 8 Comments [3/26/2019 10:31:42 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 143002

More "Alt-Left Hypocrisy & Hate, Liberal Logic & Faux Phobias" posts from Amos Moses:

(Black woman in bullhorn - caption is "Black Lives Matter". People protest killing of Cecil the lion - caption is "Lion Lives Matter". Picture of fetus - caption is "Shut up."

Caption: "The Politically Correct Manifesto: Whoever is declared the biggest victim gets to be the biggest bully."

(Image is of icicle-covered man saying "G-g-glob-b-bal warm-m-m-ming m-m-must b-b-b-b-be st-t-t-topp-p-ped!")

Caption: "If Planned Parenthood were caught selling puppy parts, they would have been shut down immediately!"

Caption is "How to Identify a Racist". Black woman says "I am proud to be a strong black woman". (not racist) Japanese man says "I am proud to be a Japanese American". (not racist) Native woman says "I am proud to be a native American." (not racist) Mexican man says "I am proud to be Mexican! Viva la raza!" (not racist) Arabic man says "I am proud to be Arabic" (not racist) White man (Walter Sobczak from The Big Lebowski) says "I'm proud to be white" (RACIST in red letters)

(Image shows Obama, Hillary Clinton, Biden and someone I should know but don't because I'm not American. Caption is "We don't negotiate with terrorists. We ARM, SUPPORT, TRAIN, & FINANCE them.)

Amos Moses, Disqus - News Network 11 Comments [3/26/2019 10:27:37 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 143000

(in the comments of a YouTube video where Alex Jones is roaring abuse at restaurant customers, who are laughing at him)

Alex is arguing with the same morons who said: Brexit wouldn't happen. Trump wouldn't be president. The Kavanaugh accusers were telling the truth. Elizabeth Warren is a Native American. The Coventry High School kids harassed a Native American. Jussie Smollett was telling the truth, and of course (drum roll please)... Trump was colluding with Russia. I don't watch InfoWars but leftists in the democratic party have shown time and again they are Hyper-Emotional, Manic, Self-Important, Nonfactual, Liars. If the Dunce Cap fits, leftists...?

[CHUCK U FARLEY: They're also laughing at the psycho who believes aliens are reotoids shapeshifters that have infiltrated the government...?]

He never gave out a single address. Google before you speak. More FUD. He believed it was staged, which is wrong but his opinion he is FREE to express. He was de-platformed for his opinions and for helping Trump get elected... a sore spot to this day with pansy, immature leftists. #1A?

[CHUCK U FARLEY: Trump had nothing to do with him being deplatformed that's just crazy talk. Guess what the company's that deplatformed Alex are private companies so they have all the right to kick you to the curb if you break their guidelines.??]

Your sad little political party is on suicide watch. The whore "Stormy Daniels" attorney, Michael Avenatti has just been arrested on multiple charges that carry 5-20 year sentences! Can't stump the Trump! Sad trombone playing for you. AhhhhhHAHAHAHAA! Get help.https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/michael-avenatti-charged/index.html

[CHUCK U FARLEY: You assume I'm a Democrat just because I see through Jones's craziness is retarded. You have no bullshit detector so you cling to an idiot that spouts off nutty conspiracies.?]

Tell that to your wife's boyfriend. He'll love it. Cuck. I don't watch InfoWars, but pussified men like you are cancer to a free society and free exchange of thought, right or wrong. Freedom of speech is the most basic of human rights. Applauding the shutting down someone because you don't care for the sounds they make with their mouth makes you a fascist little tyrant. Emphasis on "little" (you're wife talks....).?

Nick Nack, YouTube comments 0 Comments [3/26/2019 10:26:46 AM]
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Submitted By: Citizen Justin

Quote# 142999

[A post from r/ChapoTrapHouse celebrating the killing of a 19-year-old IDF recruit got posted on r/AgainstHateSubreddits, causing a wave of trigerred salty tankies to brigade it.]

Re: /r/chapotraphouse celebrates an Israeli soldier getting murdered by a terrorist

That isn’t true. I know because I actually did my damn research and now many IDF soldiers. This kid’s name was Gal Keidan, a 19 year old kid straight from high school almost conscripted into the army. No doubt he was literally just standing there doing nothing because that is what they usually do when they’re posted in the cities, they’re there just for security. Now this kid is stabbed and dead but it’s OK they’re just colonialists who cares it’s war. Bullshit. People need to maybe lift the veil that these are kids killing kids and it’s fucked. And to refute your point the parents have been arrested and the kid is still on the run, which is standard stuff even if it were to happen in the US or anywhere else in the West. This isn’t some Shiite/Sunni street vigilante justice like you’d find in Lebanon. It’s genuine due process.

So much for against hate subs, you guys may as well be one.

The state of israel is a colonial state though?

We are against hate. And the state of israel has colonized the west bank and built illegal settlements all throughout a land that is not theirs. Don't expect reasonable people to have sympathy for a colonial apartheid system.

> Kid stabs someone

> Parents are arrested

> due process

Is this some kind of joke?

Calling Israelis murderous colonists in response to being accused of anti-Israeli hate speech?

It's more likely than you think.

It’s almost like being against a country doesn’t make you racist

Care to specify what you mean by "being against a country"? Its people? Its existence? Against it in football?

Against the war crimes, colonization, and apartheid to became a few things.

"Islam isn't a race therefore it isn't bigoted when I say that Muslims are terrorists."

"Israeli isn't a race therefore it isn't bigoted when I say that Israelis are murderous colonists."

America was created by murder and genocide, so was Israel. I have no issue with the individual people, just the military.

That is not what is being said here.

It isn't bigoted to say Nazis are bad, Germans are not.

It isn't bigoted to say ISIS is bad, Muslims are not.

It isn't bigoted to say the government of Israel is currently commiting genocide, the Jews are not.

In all these cases I am referring to specific organisations who have committed specific crimes. It would be bigoted to try and extrapolate that to a cluster of related people (e.g. by race, gender, religious beliefs), but no one ITT is doing that. They are condemning the actions of a government.

It's bad enough that these commies are bigoted against people of means but hating soldiers just because it's their job to kill in defense of an active settler colonial project? That's even worse.

If it was possible for Jews to coexist peacefully with gentiles you might be able to argue that criticizing Israel wasn't antisemitic. But of course thanks to modern race science we all know that mitochondrial DNA and uh, epigenetics, gives the jew an irresistible urge to steal everything that isn't nailed down and murder anyone who gets in the way. So condemning that sort of behaviour is inherently antisemitic.

It's like saying you don't have a problem with dolphins, you just don't think mamals should swim.

I also call Americans murderous colonists. Shouldn't you be upset that this is on this subreddit instead of wasting time with me?

Are you actually comparing the Israeli government to Nazi Germany?

Kills Children

Is an Apartheid State

Has a minority group become second class citizens

Highly Militarized

Commits War Crimes


Attacks Civilians on the reg

Wants to expand land holdings

So...more like Apartheid South Africa, but you could also compare it to Nazi Germany

A terrorist? The only terrorists in the region are the IDF.

You see, shit like this is why I'm not a tankie.

chapotraphouse blurs the lines between valid criticism of Israel and outright antisemitism.

It's a real shame too. Both Jews and muslims have a mutual enemy in white supremacists - in an ideal world, extremists on either side would come over here and rid us of them, rather than fighting each other on a land already drenched in brotherly blood.

"muh antifascism is fascism"

What nonsense you a...


Imagine constantly posting shit like this and then getting your knickers in a twist when someone kills a soldier from a settler colonial apartheid state that routinely kills civilians, bulldozes homes as a matter of policy, and explicitly exists for the benefit of one ethnicity over all others.

The white supremacists side with the European settler colonial state though.

Oh no won’t someone think about the

shuffles cards

Poor Israeli War Crimi- I mean soldiers who murder chil- defend the nation of Israel.

Various tankies, r/AgainstHateSubreddits 5 Comments [3/26/2019 10:26:41 AM]
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Quote# 142998

A couple of comments: First, how do you substantiate that uniformitarian geology has been out of vogue for 100 years? It wasn't until the mid 1950's that J. Harlan Bretz's Missoula flood evidence was accepted because it smacked of catastrophism. It wasn't until about 1980 that catastrophism was generally acknowledged by the geological community. But it is good that it is now acknowledged as a part of the process.

Mt. Saint Helens was mentioned for two reasons. First, it demonstrates that geological processes can happen in very short periods of time. Secondly, during the worldwide flood there was more than just a lot of water. The "fountains of the deep" opened up. There was a lot more going on than just rain coming down, including massive volcanism and tectonic activity. You may disagree with that--I accept that. But I do know the difference between a flood and a volcano.

Also, to answer a previous post. Noah was a preacher of righteousness, and all were invited to come into the Ark. No, it was not God's choice that people perished, but their own.

And yes, there is evidence for a worldwide flood. Many if not most of the sedimentary rock layers were laid down during the flood, and many other geological features are a result of the flood waters rushing off of the rising landmass to the sinking ocean floor.

And I don't think you have given a good explanation of water gaps. Oh yes, the land rose so slowly that the river could continue flowing through the gap rather than going around the barrier. A rather ad hoc explanation.

cewoldt, Ars Technica 5 Comments [3/26/2019 10:26:39 AM]
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Submitted By: zyr

Quote# 142997

Family Friendly Gaming, the industry leader in covering the family friendly video games is bringing back a popular series on the dark side of gaming. Thanks to your feedback this series is continuing. This time we are exploring the practice of black listing. Are you familiar with this practice? It is a way for video game companies to discriminate against those they do not like, disagree with, and/or want to punish. Too many in PR and Marketing view the gaming media as unpaid extensions of their marketing department. They view us as being there to make them money. They have this entitlement mentality that sabotages honest and transparent communications. When we say something they don’t like they knee jerk react.

The discrimination against Christians and conservatives in the video game media realm is entrenched. Family Friendly Gaming experienced this and has written about it. Nintendo is the best example. Nintendo decided to attack traditional Biblical marriage, and embrace the blowing in the wind changing standards of man. This obvious rebellion against God was bad, what was worse was their double speak where they claim to provide for all people. They obviously do not provide for Christians, as history has shown. They extended their discrimination to black list Family Friendly Gaming because we dared point out this fact. Nintendo could have engaged in the dialogue. Nintendo could have apologized for their systemic discrimination against Christians. Nintendo could have tried to debate it. Instead they showed themselves to be petty, and small minded. This is after Family Friendly Gaming had done all kinds of things to help them out and make them tons of money for nine years.

Say one thing someone within a company does not like and you could find yourself being shunned. Exercise your First Amendment right of Freedom of Religion, and Freedom of Press to be treated like a third class citizen. The lack of diversity of thought within the video game industry is closing in on Holly Weird levels. It makes me wonder if these people in these companies are violating the First Amendment. Are they violating our civil rights? Their behavior is bad by any enlightened system we follow. Sadly there is not punishment for their black listing behavior. There is no appeals process to their acting like judge, jury, and executioner. There is no checks and balance on their faulty decision making process. So this evil, vile, and wicked behavior continues in the video game industry. What solutions can you see this major problem?

I hope you have a wonderful rest of your day.

Paul Bury, Family Friendly Gaming 6 Comments [3/26/2019 10:26:36 AM]
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Submitted By: Sammettik

Quote# 142996

I don't see how much of what you have stated contradicts what I have posted.You are correct. The polystrate fossils had to be buried within a short period of time; that is my contention as well. And we also now know that the polystrate fossilized trees in Yellowstone Park were most likely all a result of one event, rather like that at Spirit Lake, not the burial of multiple forests on top of each other--simply that different species of trees sunk to the bottom of a lake at different rates based on the characteristics of their wood (how quickly they absorbed the water), so landed on the bottom at different times as the lake filled with more sediment.

Of course, the layers are sorted by the size of the particulate. And the worldwide flood consisted of many events, not just one. The only item that is contradictory is your uniformitarian worldview assumption of billions of years.

I shook it to get the water throughout the dirt. Then I let the bottle sit. Isn't that the way you said you did your experiment? The courser and heavier particles settle to the bottom.

As the continents rose over at least months if not years after the inundation of the flood, the waters rushed off the surface causing catastrophic erosion of the surfaces, which is where the sediment from the layers come from.

And yes, during the worldwide flood there were huge amounts of heat energy released into the oceans from tectonics and volcanism. This is what is needed for an ice age--lots of moisture going into clouds from warm oceans and dropping on cool continents, which were a result of the atmosphere with significant particulate matter from volcanic activity blocking sunlight on the continents--for more than a hundred years. That also accounts for why there was no ice cover in the arctic areas of the earth--the warm oceans surrounding it. Is there a better explanation (not better storytelling) for how ice ages form? I don't think so.

cewoldt, Ars Technica 5 Comments [3/26/2019 10:26:33 AM]
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Submitted By: zyr

Quote# 142995

Let's start with one issue at a time as I find time to work on it. First, contrary to your statement, one flood or one even can and does lay down multiple layers of sediment. This has been shown both in the laboratory and in nature. At Mount Saint Helens for example, multiple layers were laid down in both hours and weeks, and significant canyons were formed afterwards. This is documented, eyewitness evidence that multiple layers can occur in just a few weeks from related events.

Also remember that the worldwide flood was a protracted even, with the inundation period lasting 40 days, but as the land surfaces rose and the ocean beds fell, there were countless other geological events taking place over several months and even years. In the case of the ice age, the events of the flood reverberated for hundreds of years.

cewoldt, Ars Technica 4 Comments [3/26/2019 10:26:31 AM]
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Submitted By: zyr

Quote# 142984

Lady Checkmate wrote this headline: "Alt-Left Hypocrisy & Hate, Liberal Logic & Faux Phobias"

Post some of the funniest memes and gifs showing the hypocrisy of the alt-left and their faux-phobias. Liberal logic posts will suffice as well. I'll start us off:

("Can't say "My body, my choice" when you believe people should be fined for not having health insurance")

("Since the US is such an oppressive country, shouldn't we be warning immigrants not to come here?")

(Title is "Liberal Logic". Two photos follow, one of a man in a KKK outfit which says "mentor" and one of Donald Trump, Muhammad Ali and two others saying "racist")


(Man 1: "Hmmmm. It appears your comic showed a few examples of homophobia but clearly implied that they're bad, then made the point that for a Christian to merely hold a Biblical view of sexuality is not really homophobia at all. Well that's not hate speech. That's just you being a Christian and articulating a biblical worldview."
Man 2: "EXACTLY!"
Man 1: "We don't allow that."

Lady Checkmate:
Alt-Left soldier (LOL):

("The constitution isn't a relevant document right now.")

Oxford Martyrs:

(Picture of Sam Elliott saying "Y'know, if it weren't for double standards, liberals wouldn't have any standards at all.")

Amos Moses:

Linus and Lucy having a conversation.
"Lucy: I am pro-choice!
Linus: Can I choose to smoke?
Lucy: No, it's not good for you.
Linus: Can I choose a large soda?
Lucy: No, it's not good for you.
Linus: Can I choose to own a gun?
Lucy: No, it's not safe for kids.
Linus: Can I choose an incandescent bulb?
Lucy: No, it's not good for the planet.
Linus: Can I choose low-cost coal?
Lucy: No, it's not good for the planet.
Linus: Can I choose to honor God?
Lucy: No, that's offensive.
Linus: So what can I choose?
Lucy: An abortion."

(Rod Serling saying: "Imagine if you will living in a country where it is better to be unemployed and undocumented than it is to be employed and a citizen")

(Sign says "Abortion is systemic racism. whatabortionreallyis.com)

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - News Network 24 Comments [3/25/2019 10:29:07 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 142981

(Emphasis mine)

Newsflash! People are imperfect, and collections of people are also imperfect. Such crimes are not part of their creed. They aimed high and failed spectacularly, but at least they aimed. You claim no atheist has molested children? No corporation has protected their own? No police department has covered up law breaking cops? No law firm? No political party? Mob? All non religious organizations full of imperfect people.

Frankly it is mostly due to Christian morality that molestation is even considered abhorrent- a hedonistic atheist is perfectly justified in molesting kids. Right? Wrong? By whose standard? Why should they care? There is no god, and they happen to like groping kids- you live once and then you die.

It is far easier for an atheist to justify molesting kids than a Christian, and the only reason there aren’t more is that atheists are such a small minority. Thankfully most of them still cling to their Christian-rooted ethics (though there is little reason to assume that will continue).

bhs128, Ars Technica 16 Comments [3/25/2019 2:45:36 AM]
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Submitted By: zyr

Quote# 142980

Here are some examples of important physical evidence that is far better explained by flood geology than by standard deep time geology:

Well, what about planation surfaces over large areas between various geological layers. And why are there layers with millions of years between them while in many places, there is little or no erosion or debris? How can there be nearly continent wide unconformities and layers? How can the angles of repose for the continental shelves, and even their existence, be adequately explained by standard geology? How do you account for ice ages--I mean without giving anything but a highly speculative idea?

How were water gaps and wind gaps formed? By sslloowwllyy rising ground surfaces that matched the erosion rates? Really? And how were the Grand Canyon and others formed? By the tiny river down in the canyon? Not likely.

These questions and more can be much better answered by flood geology.

cewoldt, ars technica 7 Comments [3/25/2019 2:45:33 AM]
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Submitted By: zyr

Quote# 142979

(Something about Ars Technica and fundies today,,, Also, the formatting is his)

belief in the hereafter is fundamental to the life of society and to man's personal life, and is the basis of his happiness, prosperity, and achievement.( some proofs)
The First:
It is only with the thought of Paradise that children, who form almost a half of mankind, can endure all the deaths around them, which appear to them to be grievous and frightening, and strengthen the morale of their weak and delicate beings. Through Paradise they find hope in their vulnerable spirits, prone to weeping, and may live happily. For example, with the thought of Paradise, one may say: "My little brother or friend has died and become a bird in Paradise. He is flying around Paradise and living more happily than us." The frequent deaths before their unhappy eyes of other children like themselves or of grown-ups will otherwise destroy all their resistance and morale, making their subtle faculties like their spirits, hearts, and minds weep in addition to their eyes; they will either decline utterly or become crazy, wretched animals...
Second Proof:
It is only through the life of the hereafter that the elderly, who form half of mankind, can endure the proximity of the grave, and be consoled at the thought that their lives, to which they are firmly attached, will soon be extinguished and their fine worlds come to an end. It is only at the hope of eternal life that they can respond to the grievous despair they feel in their emotional child-like spirits at the thought of death. Those worthy, anxious fathers and mothers, so deserving of compassion and in need of tranquillity and peace of mind, will otherwise feel a terrible spiritual turmoil and distress in their hearts, and this world will become a dark prison for them, and life even, grievous torment..............
from Quran's Light

ssener2001, ars technica 10 Comments [3/25/2019 2:45:29 AM]
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Submitted By: zyr

Quote# 142978

The Worldwide Flood
There are lots of comments about how much water it would take to inundate the whole world with a flood, and where the water would go after the flood.

There is currently enough water to cover the entire surface of a flat earth with about a mile and a half deep of water. Prior to the Flood, a great deal of this water was under the earth as the Bible says in Genesis 7:11—-“. . . and the fountains of the deep opened up.” (Recent reports suggest that there may still be more water in the crust than there is on the surface.) And the world was much flatter than it is today, perhaps just one continent. So there was plenty of water to flood the entire land surface of the relatively flat earth.

There were tremendous tectonic and volcanic activities during the flood. As a result, the continents rose and the ocean floors sunk, just as the Bible records—Psalm 104:8. As this occurred, there was rapid water runoff from the continents into the oceans. During this time is when much of the water laid down sediments and fossils were created, as well as the continental shelves. All agree that on the highest mountain in the world, Mt. Everest, that there are marine fossils, and that these mountains were raised by tectonic activity. What young earth v. deep time advocates disagree on is how long this lifting process took, not that this is what happened.

Overall, the geological evidence we see today is best explained by a worldwide catastrophic flood.

cewoldt, ars technica 10 Comments [3/25/2019 2:44:37 AM]
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Everything Is Racist Award

Quote# 142977

Hint: You don't need to be a Creationist to see the evidence of a global flood. This is basically antisemitism against any belief.

Secular people see the evidence of a global flood themselves, but several don't want to believe it's true just because it is written in the bible.

ShagnWagn, ars technica 10 Comments [3/25/2019 2:44:14 AM]
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Submitted By: zyr

Quote# 142976

You are absolutely right that a worldwide flood would account for these fossils very well. And what is the evidence for a worldwide flood that another commenter asks for? Billions of dead things (fossils) buried in rock layers laid down by water all over the earth. And that is exactly what we find. Sedimentary rock covers about three quarters of the earth’s surface and many of these contain fossils. We find marine fossils even on the top of Mount Everest, which means that the mountain must have been pushed up through tectonic plate activity during and after a massive flood.
Further, slow burial as a previous poster assumes, doesn’t work for fossilization, especially for organisms with soft bodies. Fossilization requires rapid and generally deep burial as the article acknowledges. Oxygen must be quickly excluded as must scavengers—within days at most. Gradual burial just doesn’t work.
I am not sure how the narrative of a global ice age causing extinction fits in either. There is really no good evidence for a worldwide ice age or ages—“snowball earth”. That postulate creates a lot more problems than it solves. The striations on the rocks which are interpreted as evidence for ice ages in the lower latitudes were most likely created by massive catastrophic landslides, most of them in a submarine environment.
There are lots of speculative theories to explain an ice age, but these fall far short of being reasonable. The only reasonable explanation is I have read is from Michael Oard. Like fossilization, ice ages take very special conditions—First, warmer oceans are necessary to put massive amounts of moisture in the air. Perhaps you’ve heard the phrase, “It’s too cold to snow.” That is because really cold air doesn’t carry enough moisture for snow. Next, for glaciers to form you need many years of accumulated snowfall. Much cooler continents are necessary so that the moisture comes down as snow and remains un-melted through the summer. How could both of these requirements be met? The oceans would be warmed by massive global techtonics and volcanism; the land masses would remain cool due to the massive amounts of volcanic dust in the atmosphere.
Another problem with this published narrative is that it states that half the species uncovered are unknown. That is often an argument from ignorance. Dr. Carl Werner conducted a multi-year study and found that many of the purported new species are not really such if fossils from museums around the world are actually compared—and on many occasions, the fossils are very similar to existing, living species.

cewoldt, ars technica 3 Comments [3/25/2019 2:43:59 AM]
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Submitted By: zyr

Quote# 142975

(On an article about the discovery of a large trove of Cambrian fossils in China)

What buried these creatures so quickly and preserved them for thousands of years? A massive flood would do that. No one has proved it didn’t happen and many ancient cultures recorded stories of a flood that wiped out mankind. The resistance to such a flood explanation is not based on science, just prejudice. It fits the evidence.

IAM4U, ars technica 6 Comments [3/25/2019 2:37:57 AM]
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Submitted By: zyr

Quote# 142974

Rontow: I just want to correct you on one thing, as a Jew who read the entirety of the Tanach, Gehenna is not hell, it is a physical location called "guy Ben hinom" ("guy" meaning "valley", the "valley of the son of hinom") where Canaanite pagans (and heretic Jews at times) sacrificed their first born. There's no hell in the old testament (and Judaism), Gehenna is a physical location you can visit, though it is believed to be cursed (from the whole sacrificing thing)?

John Baugh: It was used by Jesus as a metaphor for Hell. And the Old Testament is full of the reality of Hell. With all due respect, Rabbinical Judaism of today is descended largely from the teaching of the Pharisees, and is a far cry from the sacrificial system under Abraham, and then Moses, instituted by God. Many (most?) Jews today do not acknowledgement an actual Hell, nor an actual Satan, and most I've spoken with don't acknowledge an actual Heaven or afterlife either. This is entirely contradictory of the teaching in the Tanakh (which I've also read many times.)?

?skylander king: I'm Jewish and the way I heard of Hell is as just a midpoint between being reincarnated if you didn't make it into Heaven the first few times. A boiling swamp where your soul would be tortured 6 days a week and only let out on Shabbat. I'm not sure how long this torture lasts for, only that it's not eternity.?

John Baugh: Well, the interpretation involving reincarnation is not consistent with the teachings in what we Christians refer to as the Old Testament (The Hebrew Bible, Tanakh.) Reincarnation is more of a pagan/far eastern/new age philosophy (probably introduced into Judaism by some sort of Kabbalah tradition.) Some of the confusion is because the New Testament uses terms that would have been more familiar to the Greek world (e.g., Hades, Tartarus), and then when English translations came about, the Nordic influence into English was clear, since the word "Hell" is from Germanic/Nordic tradition. But this doesn't mean the CONCEPTS were "borrowed" from the pagans. It's that that terms they could at least have some concept of could be used and clarified when needed. It is true that our knowledge of Hell is limited, but the souls definitely went to Sheol, sometimes also called "Mot" (although that is also a term borrowed from neighboring/conquered civilizations like the Canaanites for clarification.) I'd say that it's quite clear God says He was have vengeance and judgment upon sinners, and that this is a permanent state, if one makes a careful reading of Scripture a priority. (Isaiah 2:12; 13:6, 9; Ezekiel 13:5, 30:3; Joel 1:15, 2:1,11,31; 3:14; Amos 5:18,20; Obadiah 15; Zephaniah 1:7,14; Zechariah 14:1; Malachi. 4:5 are all decent references) Also, throughout history, God revealed Himself and how the universe works over time, so the earliest Jews didn't have all the information - there was a lot of mystery. For example, Jews then (and even still don't) didn't understand exactly who the Messiah would be. They assumed it would be a political figure that would save them from tyranny. This is why the Jews (Pharisees primarily) during the time of Jesus were assuming the Messiah would be someone to throw off the Roman conquerors, but in the same respect, they didn't want to rock the boat because Rome gave them quite a bit of autonomy. But, the prophecies about the Messiah throughout the OT says that He would be "bruised for our transgressions" and the "punishment that brought us peace was upon Him" (Isaiah 53 - which is CLEARLY NOT about anyone other than someone whose punishment can pay for your sins.) Furthermore, an enormous portion of the Old Testament/Tanakh points to Jesus as Messiah. And although this group gets a lot of hate from orthodox and non-Messianic Jews, I'd recommend they are a group to at least consider, as far as the points they have to make:

John Baugh, Youtube 4 Comments [3/25/2019 2:37:28 AM]
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Quote# 142972

[Based] I hope for an european civil war!!!

I will go outside and fight against normies from all sides I will kill left wing cucks, cuckservatives, Migrant cucks everybody who isnt incel. It would be life fuel I could rapemaxx too.

HighTGymcel, incels.is 25 Comments [3/24/2019 1:21:27 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 142969

My main issue about never having had any sexual experiences

I can't relate to anyone. I feel like people who had sexual experiences and myself live in different dimensions. The vast majority of people went through a normal childhood experiencing girlfriends, kissing and sex during their teenage years but I didn't. I can't relate to people I see in my daily life (not even family members with the only exeption being perhaps my parents) but lately it's even extended to musicians that I listen to, or any entertainment figures. I watch Esports for example and when a pro player makes a post on Twitter about their girlfriend I lose respect for them. Not because of jealousy but because I know they'd never understand how I feel.

It's hard to explain, but it's really alienating, it's much more than just not having friends or having been in relationships. I actually feel like an alien. Anyone else understand what I'm trying to say?

ThinTinyDickCel, incels.is 12 Comments [3/24/2019 1:21:15 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 142961

Surely you know that radiological dating is not accurate. You do different radiological dating methods on the same rock and you will get two very different "ages."

This is also based on a lot of assumptions that the chemical makeup of that rock has always been the same as well as other assumptions.

We also know that we have shown live dinosaur tissue. If they were millions of years old, as claimed, then there is no possible way for this to occur.

davidtaylorjr, BaptistBoard 9 Comments [3/24/2019 1:20:44 PM]
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Submitted By: Kang
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