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Quote# 140501

[Translation and commentary is sourced from Reddit]

0:00 The existence of life after death has been scientifically proven by an Ural Federal University student. The young scientist has even created the corresponding mathematical formula.

0:09 "Life is a function of time. Thus, death is the limit of that function as time approaches infinity. The solution is a finite quantity, which means that a crisp, determinate perception awaits us after death. That proves that life after death exists."

0:29 Based on that mathematical formula, Yuri says that after the physical death of one's body, certain information persists that they had been perceiving during their lifetime. The student thinks that that substance is intangible.

0:36
Formula

Let L = f (t) where t - time L - life expressed as information

then D= Lim f(t),t -> +infinity, where D is information about death and ensuing events

D=Limf(t)=[8/8]=S(ABC)i/ABC=const


0:42 Now the mathematician is planning to tell the scientific community about the discovery and even publish an article in a foreign journal. Furthermore, Yuri is nominated for the Youth Nobel Prize of one million rubles which will be awarded in Yekaterinburg at the sixth Eurasian Youth Economic Forum. By the way, Yuri has already planned his own afterlife.

1:05 "If Benjamin Franklin took lightning from the gods, that means I took away... life after death, because now I know what it depends on and can influence it. You just need to control your cognition. To put it simply, choose it. Since we can see that consciousness persists, that information persists, that means the ability to choose persists as well."

[commentary]
And here's his crowdfunding campaign, which contains gems like "According to biochemistry ... when we don't have a brain to think with, nothing is left" and "We can view life as a function of two variables: information and time" and also a 9/11 picture for some reason.

Uri Berland, YouTube 13 Comments [9/18/2018 3:03:07 AM]
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Submitted By: dxdydz

Quote# 140500

Philippians 1: 1-11

“Being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.” Vs.6



When one comes to faith in Jesus Christ, God goes to work to conform his child into the image of His Son. And we as believers can be assured the work He begins, He also completes through the partaking of His Word and His Holy Spirit.

I had an object lesson in this when I was plagued with basal cell carcinoma. I had two open sores on my leg that refused to heal. They remained a constant pain to me and so I sought how to treat them through the Lord’s guidance. I am not one who rushes immediately to a doctor. The reason is I’ve experienced negative results, so if there is a natural remedy for my condition or the Lord chooses to heal in His own way, I seek to find it because it has worked well for me to do so.

I did go to the dermatologist for the biopsy. But the treatment was to remove the cancer growth surgically. This alarmed me since I had discovered that even with this the cancer can return and the skin is permanently scarred. I also did not trust the treatment because they gave no adequate advice on how to prevent infection from the biopsy procedure. In fact, I told them what I would do instead of their suggestion to apply Vaseline to the wounds. I had a relative who did this and it ended up infected. So with my suggestion they looked up the best antibiotic ointment to apply.

In the meantime, the Lord was teaching me about how to nourish my body by avoiding foods that are overly processed and manufactured. My grand-daughter was researching a college paper on the Vegan diet when she discovered how a person gave testimony of being cured of skin cancer by changing her diet. When I looked into the research I stumbled onto a natural remedy for basal and squamous cell skin cancer. The treatment was to apply an eggplant extract until the cancer cells were destroyed. I wanted to go this route instead of surgery so I ordered the cream and when I was contacted by the dermatologist to schedule the Moh procedure I asked if she was willing to monitor the treatment using this cream. I consulted my Lord about all of this by saying to Him if the biopsy report was not melanoma and only basal cell cancer I would feel confident to go this route. All of the biopsies reported “Basal Cell carcinoma. Well, as I predicted the dermatologist was not interested in monitoring this treatment and I was on my own. But not really, I had the great Physician guiding me on this scary unknown path.

I ordered the cream and began a ritual of applying it two times daily. The cream contained an acid base to permeate the tissue and allow the extract to attack the cells. Needless to say, it was painful and I at times wanted to give up, but the instructions said to continue until the tissue was healed. The skin would be inflamed all around the sore as the extract began to hunt and destroy. Finally, after approximately nine weeks, the burning subsided and I discontinued the treatments and the skin began to heal.

In all of this the Lord was also going after deep rooted habits and wrong thinking in my life. As He exposed them it was painful emotionally to discover my faults, but the knife of the Word was applied and He told me to be patient as He completed the work to get rid of the root of what was holding me back from experiencing His complete freedom in Him and healing. (Hebrews 4:12). As I prayed concerning His cleansing, He spoke to my heart He was removing everything that was not of Him.

The Lord has promised to complete the work of redemption in our life until the day we come face to face with our God. In that day we will stand righteous before a Holy God in Christ, presented to the Father as His faithful bride. (Jude 1:24-25)

Let the Lord do His work in your life through all adversity, knowing He is transforming you into His likeness and removing all that is not of Him. What remains Is His awesome transformation of your nature to reflect His own without scar or blemish. (James 1:2-4)

Mary (Doula Faith), doulafaith.org 6 Comments [9/18/2018 3:01:58 AM]
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Submitted By: dxdydz

Quote# 140499

Question: "Is the universe eternal?"

Answer: The Bible makes it clear that the universe is not eternal, that it had a beginning, and that the beginning was its creation by God (Genesis 1:1). This truth has been denied by philosophers and pseudo-scientists who have come up with a variety of different theories in an effort to “prove” the eternality of the universe. Further, atheists will say that matter and energy are eternal, following the first law of thermodynamics—“Energy can be transformed (changed from one form to another), but it can neither be created nor destroyed.”

Philosophically, why do we have something rather than nothing at all? If the universe had a beginning, then it must have a cause, and therefore cannot be eternal. And every drop of evidence we have points to the universe having a beginning, but this truth is not something welcomed by naturalists and atheists. Numerous scientifically minded atheists have expressed a desire to find a loophole to the scientific fact that the present order of nature had a beginning. Unfortunately for them, such a loophole does not exist. Here are five proofs that the universe is not eternal:

(1) The universe is running down, and something that is running down must have started at some point. The second law of thermodynamics states that the universe is running out of usable energy and if you doubt this, look in the mirror (you’re aging and running down just like everything else).

(2) The universe is expanding. This was confirmed through the Hubble telescope many years ago, and it is interesting to note that the universe is expanding from a single point, meaning the entire universe could be contracted back into a single point. Also, note that the universe is not expanding into space, but space itself is expanding.

(3) The radiation echo was discovered by Bell Labs scientists in 1965. What is it? It is the heat afterglow from the Big Bang. Its discovery dealt a death blow to any theory of the universe being in a steady state because it shows instead that the universe exploded.

(4) Galaxy Seeds. Scientists believe that, if the Big Bang is true (first, there was nothing, then, BANG, something came into being), then temperature “ripples” should exist in space, and it would be these ripples that enabled matter to collect into galaxies. To discover whether these ripples exist, the Cosmic Background Explorer – COBE – was launched in 1989 to find them, with the findings being released in 1992. What COBE found was perfect/precise ripples that, sure enough, enable galaxies to form. So critical and spectacular was this finding that the NASA lead for COBE, said, “If you’re religious, it’s like looking at God.”

(5) Albert Einstein’s theory of relativity means that the universe had a beginning and was not eternal as he had previously believed (Einstein was originally a pantheist). His theory proved that the universe is not a cause, but instead one big effect—something brought it into existence. Einstein disliked his end result so much that he introduced a “fudge factor” into his theory that allowed for an eternal universe. But there was only one problem. His fudge factor required a division by zero in his calculations—a mathematical error any good math student knows not to make. When discovered by other mathematicians, Einstein admitted his error calling it “the greatest blunder of my life.” After his acknowledgment, and upon confirming further research that showed the universe expanding just as his theory of relativity predicted, Einstein bowed to the fact that the universe is not eternal and said that he wanted “to know how God created the world.”

Further, it should be understood that every effect must resemble its cause. This is because, simply put, you cannot give what you do not have, so it is impossible for an effect to possess something its originating cause did not have. That being the case, how can one believe that an impersonal, amoral, purposeless, and meaningless universe accidentally created beings that are full of personality, morals, meaning, and purpose? Only mind can create mind. In the end it is either matter before mind or mind before matter, and all scientific, philosophical, and reasonable evidence points to the latter.

In conclusion, we find that all scientific evidence points to the fact that the universe had a beginning, just as the Bible states, and that a Cause must exist that resembles all we know today. As Lord Kelvin, a British scientist once said, "If you study science deep enough and long enough, it will force you to believe in God."

Got Questions, Got Questions 6 Comments [9/18/2018 3:00:02 AM]
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Quote# 140498

Question: "Why is the idea of eternal damnation so repulsive to many people?"

Answer: In the shifting winds of modern cultures, the idea of everlasting torment and damnation is difficult for many people to grasp. Why is this? The Bible makes it clear that hell is a literal place. Christ spoke more about hell than He did of heaven. Not only Satan and his minions will be punished there, everyone who rejects Jesus Christ will spend eternity right along with them. A desire to reject or revise the doctrine of hell will not mitigate its flames or make the place go away. Still, the idea of eternal damnation is spurned by many, and here are some reasons for it:

The influence of contemporary thought. In this postmodern era, many go to great lengths to assure no one is offended, and the biblical doctrine of hell is considered offensive. It is too harsh, too old-fashioned, too insensitive. The wisdom of this world is focused on this life, with no thought of the life to come.

Fear. Never-ending, conscious punishment devoid of any hope is indeed a frightening prospect. Many people would rather ignore the source of fear than face it and deal with it biblically. The fact is, hell should be frightening, considering it is the place of judgment originally created for the devil and his angels (Matthew 25:41).

A flawed view of God’s love. Many who reject the idea of eternal damnation do so because they find it difficult to believe that a loving God could banish people to a place as horrific as hell for all eternity. However, God’s love does not negate His justice, His righteousness, or His holiness. Neither does His justice negate His love. In fact, God’s love has provided the way to escape His wrath: the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross (John 3:16-18).

A downplaying of sin. Some find it shockingly unfair that the recompense for a mere lifetime of sinning should be an eternal punishment. Others reject the idea of hell because, in their minds, sin isn’t all that bad. Certainly not bad enough to warrant eternal torture. Of course, it is usually our own sin that we downplay; other people might deserve hell—murderers and the like. This attitude reveals a misunderstanding of the universally heinous nature of sin. The problem is an insistence on our own basic goodness, which precludes thoughts of a fiery judgment and denies the truth of Romans 3:10 (“There is no one righteous, not even one”). The egregiousness of iniquity compelled Christ to the cross. God hated sin to death.

Aberrant theories. Another reason people reject the concept of eternal damnation is that they have been taught alternative theories. One such theory is universalism, which says that everyone will eventually make it to heaven. Another theory is annihilationism, in which the existence of hell is acknowledged, but its eternal nature is denied. Annihilationists believe that those who end up in hell will eventually die and cease to exist (i.e., they will be annihilated). This theory simply makes hell a temporary punishment. Both these theories are presented as viable options to the biblical teaching on hell; however, both make the mistake of placing human opinion over divine revelation.

Incomplete teaching. Many contemporary pastors who do believe in the doctrine of hell consider it simply too delicate a subject to preach on. This further contributes to the modern denial of hell. Congregants in churches where hell is not preached are ignorant of what the Bible says on the subject and are prime candidates for deception on the issue. A pastor’s responsibility is “to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints” (Jude 1:3), not pick and choose what parts of the Bible to leave out.

Satan’s ploys. Satan’s first lie was a denial of judgment. In the Garden of Eden, the serpent told Eve, “You will not surely die” (Genesis 3:4). It is still one of Satan’s main tactics. “The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers” (2 Corinthians 4:4), and the blindness he produces includes a denial of God’s holy decrees. Convince the unsaved that there is no judgment, and they can “eat, drink and be merry” with no care for the future.

If we understand the nature of our Creator, we should have no difficulty understanding the concept of hell. “[God] is the Rock, His works are perfect, and all His ways are just. A faithful God who does no wrong, upright and just is He” (Deuteronomy 32:4, emphasis added). His desire is that no one perish but that all come to repentance (2 Peter 3:9).

To contradict the Bible’s teaching on hell is to say, essentially, “If I were God, I would not make hell like that.” The problem with such a mindset is its inherent pride—it smugly suggests that we can improve on God’s plan. However, we are not wiser than God; we are not more loving or more just. Rejecting or revising the biblical doctrine of hell carries a sad irony, which one writer put this way: “The only result of attempts, however well meaning, to air-condition hell is to assure that more and more people wind up there.”

Got Questions, Got Questions 14 Comments [9/18/2018 2:59:43 AM]
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Quote# 140493

Like we all know, media is full of anti-pedophile message. There is a pedophile/hebephile witch hunt going on. But why doesn't anyone talk about teleiophiles = minors attracted to adults? I'm sure there are many of those preteen girls who like older guys, but because of a modern anti-male culture, men are always seen as abusers and rapists. Also could it be that some of the pedophile-teleiophilic relationships are actually ruined by the social attitudes and the (age of consent) law, not the evil molester monster men?

Timi, The 600 Club 7 Comments [9/18/2018 2:57:37 AM]
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Quote# 140486

In May of 2015, I published an article entitled “8 steps to confront your wife’s sexual refusal”. In this article I detailed 8 steps that Christian men could take in confronting sexual defraudment on the part of their wives. This article has since become one of the top 5 viewed pages on this blog and this page alone has had about 800,000 views since I first published it. I made some edits to this article over the last few years but essentially it has remained the same. Here are the 8 steps I list for men in confronting their wife’s sexual refusal:

Step 1 – Rebuke her privately

Step 2 – Stop taking her on dates or trips

Step 3 – No unnecessary household upgrades

Step 4 – Stop doing the little extra things

Step 5 – Remove her funding

Step 6 – Rebuke her before witnesses

Step 7 – Bring her before the Church


And then I gave the 8th and final step for husbands if these 7 steps did not bring their wife to repentance:

“What if none of these 7 steps work?

If your wife remains willfully defiant, yet she has not left you, it could be for a variety of reasons. She may not want to lose how she lives with you and she knows that after a divorce her lifestyle will be severely affected, and she does not want to deal with the consequences of divorce. Perhaps she may have some genuine care for you left as well as your children but she simply cannot see the error of her ways and will hold out indefinitely with the hope that one day you will fold and give her back the money, the dates, the trips, the house hold upgrades and she will not have been forced to change her ways.

But you have a final step you may take, one that you need to pray long and hard about before you do.

You have the option to divorce her for her sexual immorality.

“But I tell you, everyone who divorces his wife, except in a case of sexual immorality, causes her to commit adultery. And whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.” – Matthew 5:32(HCSB)”


biblicalgenderroles, Biblical Gender Roles 12 Comments [9/18/2018 2:53:08 AM]
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Quote# 140478

[on a teen molesting his prepubescent siblings,]

yeah.... but were they all girls???? if so, then its okay...

the guy was a minor back then as well.... in a house filled with girls, it was bound to happen...

kids explore their sexuality all the time... or they used to anyways... you know.. before technology locked every single kid in their own rooms as they chat, tweet, and play games from phones, pcs, etc...

wowaccounttom, MMO Champion 12 Comments [9/16/2018 7:59:08 AM]
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Quote# 140474

[Re: A Crowdsourcing Campaign Directed Against Susan Collins]

"I consider this quid pro quo fundraising to be the equivalent of an attempt to bribe me to vote against Judge Kavanaugh," she told the conservative site Newsmax. She also told the Wall Street Journal that two lawyers told her the campaign violated federal bribery law and a third said it was extortion.

Susan Collins, USA Today 24 Comments [9/16/2018 7:58:33 AM]
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Quote# 140480

i just wanna point out that i have never had arguments with any person of color who didn’t believe in God, mostly because you wouldn’t know if you didn’t ask, white (male) atheists are the only ones that go around being, ironically enough, nearly evangelical in their need to beat people (especially people of color, ESPECIALLY Black people) over the head with their violent and angry disbelief like some kind of fervent inverted religious slavemaster lmfao yall really went from preaching “slaves be obedient to your masters” as a way of dehumanizing Black people by using it out of biblical context, to weaponizing belief in God against Black people as way of dehumanizing them by characterizing them as “too stupid to know there’s no God” like lmfao whew chile the racism!

honeybruh, Tumblr 10 Comments [9/15/2018 3:55:25 PM]
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Quote# 140472

Keep your children out of public schools. The most deadly influence in your child's life is other children, who come from heathen homes and are as worldly as can be, especially during the teenage years! Children, like all human beings, are extremely impressionable. I am against the insane idea that when a girl turns 18, it is time for her to get a secular job. If you do that mom and dad, your daughter will meet some bum at Burger King and be pregnant with his child within a year at her job. I don't care if your daughter is 30 years old, you keep her HOME until she gets married! For that one main reason I am for Bible colleges, as a place to find a life's mate. It is a shame that our young people cannot find a spouse in churches today, because the rest of the kids are all going off to Bible college; but if I were in a church where there were a lack of options for my daughter, I'd do whatever it took to get my daughter enrolled into a Bible college, where she would be protected on campus from creeps, and could hopefully and prayerfully find a godly man to marry.

It's a jungle out there folks! These young girls enrolling into the military today are fornicating! Women don't belong in the military with the men, they belong in the kitchens and as nurses, not on the frontlines. Femininity is a lost precious art and virtue today in America! Our U.S. military has become so sickening these days, that President Barack Obama removed a ban in 2011 against soldiers having sex with animals. Do you want your daughter in that kind of mess? Rape is commonplace in the military nowadays, go read the news for yourself. Teenagers have NO RIGHT to be trusted by their parents, that trust MUST be earned!!! Every teenager needs to be involved in a good old-fashioned Bible-believing church! Each and every one of those sermons is building your child's brain for the rest of their life! Get your kids into a Christian school, where the Devil doesn't have the opportunity to corrupt them. We're talking about the issues of life.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 22 Comments [9/15/2018 3:04:08 PM]
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Quote# 140469

(Shar's response to another member's message: "Almost all deaths from abortion are from after the safe period of a few weeks. Anti abortion people against early abortions are koo koo's to put it nicely. Take that to the bank of rationality/good common sense. Abortions done with licensed doctors who only do early ones are very safe for the woman):

Even early abortions are risky. A good number women bleed to death AFTER they leave the clinic so it is reported as bleeding to death rather than root cause of abortion. That abortion pill is horrible. All women bleed excessively after taking it and have severe pain. Doctors (if you can call them that) do not take it seriously. Women are not at abortion clinics long enough to see if there are complications. It is like a factory..in and out. Women should be told of the risks before having abortions and be told of them so they understand. Part of the problem is an abortion doctor is an abortion doctor because he or she isn't good enough to be any other type. It is all about the bottom line...that is why they are rushed out instead of mKing [sic] sure the women are ok. Shar

Shar, Realabortiondebate 13 Comments [9/15/2018 3:02:39 PM]
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Quote# 140476

[honeybruh]
most white male atheism is born out of the white supremacist belief that there is no greater power in the universe than white men and that’s just tea

[revivesuburbia]
not to be “that guy” but the notion that “greater power” is equal to a white man was pretty much my previous religion’s doctrine

[honeybruh]
white supremacy doesn’t need a single doctrine in order to establish itself, it’s already well-established that religion has often been used as a tool of racism. this runs alongside, not against, the fact that a bulk of white atheism comes from establishing the white self as the god figure, just without the ritualistic trappings of organized religion, even though there’s a violently evangelical way that white people tend to talk about atheism, especially in the face of theistic people of color.

honeybruh, Tumblr 24 Comments [9/15/2018 2:45:31 AM]
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Quote# 140471

China claims Muslim detention camps are education centres

Chinese officials have pushed back against growing criticism of the detention of Muslim minorities in internment camps, claiming authorities are merely providing professional training and education.

Beijing is facing allegations of mass incarceration and repression of Uighurs, Kazakhs and other ethnic minorities in Xinjiang in China’s north-west. An estimated 1.1 million people have been placed in internment camps, including re-education camps where, according to former detainees and other witnesses, inmates are subjected to intense political indoctrination and abuse.

“It is not mistreatment,” Li Xiaojun, the director for publicity at the Bureau of Human Rights Affairs of the State Council Information Office, told reporters on Thursday, according to Reuters. “What China is doing is to establish professional training centres – educational centres.”

Li added: “If you do not say it’s the best way, maybe it’s the necessary way to deal with Islamic or religious extremism, because the west has failed in doing so. Look at Belgium, look at Paris, look at some other European countries. You have failed.”

Li Xiaojun, The Guardian 11 Comments [9/14/2018 2:55:46 PM]
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Quote# 140470

Darwinism is a false religion founded by atheist Charles Darwin, because Darwin decided that he wanted to violate God's natural laws and engage in bestiality with a monkey. Darwinism assumes that the world is billions of years old, as is the universe, and that everything came out of a little atom and this expanded into the universe. Life on Earth and all of its intricacies would be absolutely impossible without the Creator, yet atheists assume that Darwin's theory of evolution allowed for people to come from pond slime and that death is "just because" instead of death being the consequence of sin. Romans 6:23 says that " For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." Therefore, death simply cannot exist "just because" and it instead is the wages of sin.

Darwinism comes from humanity's desire to feel superior to the God that allows them to keep breathing, and these fools will be so arrogant and haughty even as God has them breathe their last, until they come up and meet the Lord Jesus Christ for Judgement Day. Oddly enough, despite wanting to feel superior to God, Darwinism degrades humans from being made in the image of God to being lowly primates much like chimpanzees and bonobos, and since the latter two engage in homosexual acts, that makes it okay for humans since humans are "just animals" who happen to have rationality and reason unlike chimpanzees and bonobos, but since Darwin preferred to engage in sexual activity with apes, men must also be just like apes, at least according to secular humanists, Marxists, and other forms of Darwinists, including fat atheist loser Penn Jillette.

People are naturally inclined to seek out God, and some of the most haughty and arrogant who claim they are above religion have adopted the false religion of Darwinism. On the Origin of Species is their Bible and it says that "“Thus, from the war of nature, from famine and death, the most exalted object which we are capable of conceiving, namely, the production of the higher animals, directly follows. There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed into a few forms or into one; and that, whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, evolved.”

Some so-called "Christians, such as those in the Roman Catholic Church and the Episcopal Church believe that the gospel of Darwin is accurate, and have made futile attempts to reconcile the Gospel of the Lord with the gospel of Darwin. "In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return." Genesis 3:19 makes it abundantly clear that death was caused by sin and that sin only occurred after man was brought into the world, and for Darwinism to work there would have had to have been death before Adam to cause humans to come out of pond slime. The world constantly is breaking down, not building up, and for genetics to allow for more well adapted animals is preposterous because there is simply NO such thing as this as there is only decay due to the second law of thermodynamics beginning after the fall of man.

StevenR, SimplyChristian 16 Comments [9/14/2018 2:54:57 PM]
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Submitted By: KingOfRhye

Quote# 140460

[Submitter's note: OP deactivated their blog after another user wrote up a long response debunking this post. URL is from that debunking post]

While I think it’s great seeing all the excitement and press coverage about India legalizing gay sex, I think it’s really important to remember that this is NOT India progressing due to Western influence. This is India decolonizing.

The homophobic statute that was overturned is a product of British colonialism in India. Prior to that, India had a rich and vibrant queer community that played important functions in society. There were queer Hindu gods and hijras serve as an example of how queerness in society was venerated. This is not something to patronize India over and congratulate ourselves in the West for. This is a victory for India reclaiming their culture.

mosesoftacos, Tumblr 10 Comments [9/14/2018 1:30:55 PM]
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Quote# 140467

A man assaulted by Antifa supporters in a video that went viral following a demonstration against a far-right rally in Portland, Oregon, says he is not a fascist but a Bernie Sanders-supporting progressive and registered Democrat.

On August 4, Portland-based far-right group Patriot Prayer rallied at the city’s Tom McCall Waterfront Park. But it was opposed by a larger number of counter-demonstrators from various left-wing and liberal groups in the city.

Footage shows Paul Welch, 38, wrestling with masked anti-fascists for possession of the American flag he brought to the counter-demo. They demanded he let go of the flag, calling it a “fascist symbol,” reported The Oregonian.

"The right and certainly a lot of smaller groups like Patriot Prayer might rush to things like the flag and try to take it up as, 'This is our symbol exclusively,'" Welch, a protest regular, told The Oregonian. "Part of my thinking was to take it back."

One of the men in the video beats Welch on the legs with a club-like object before striking him on the head with it. Welch is left bleeding on the floor, holding his head, as his assailants calmly walk off.

He feared he would be beaten to death but was taken to hospital by onlookers and his head gash stapled back together by doctors. Welch, who said he voted for socialist Sanders in the 2016 Democratic primary, was also concussed.

[...]

Rose City Antifa, the anti-fascist group in Portland, did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Rose City Antifa, Newsweek 14 Comments [9/14/2018 3:43:37 AM]
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Quote# 140458

David Golson, the man who was accused of swiping a Snickers bar from a Brooklyn 7-Eleven last year and was stripped, bitten and detained by store employees, is suing the Flatbush establishment and the building owners in a lawsuit filed in Bronx Supreme Court.
...
Despite his repeated requests to be released and his claims of innocence, defendants through its employees pulled, hit, bit and stripped plaintiff of almost all of his clothes with the exception of his underpants, shoes and socks the lawsuit states, according to Courthouse News. "All of this was being recorded on the store's video surveillance camera, which shows that plaintiff was not resisting but merely pleading to be released even as his clothes were being torn off of his body


(MalicenWndrland):
Someone stole my Iphone & if I had found them I would bit & kicked & much more. I hate theives so he should have kept his hands off of the merchandise.

(coppertop):
Is it terrible that I find this hilarious...I hate a thief. He got what he deserved, yes the biting was extreme but I bet he won't try to steal from another 7-11 again.

(Kingsstl)
He shouldnt be stealing, I dont feel sorry for him

The biting was a bit extreme but if I was on the jury I wouldn't grant him one dollar

What they did is ILLEGAL. Even if they did suspect him of stealing, concealing alone is not proof of theft. You actually have to allow to customer to walk past the cash registers and out of the door before you can attempt to legally detain him.

Dude's hand barely brushed up against the handle before they ambushed him and publicly stripped him. Oh, and plus the biting? For a $1.50? Yeah, they're going to lose. Phantom Snicker and all.


Are we really taking up for a thief?

In the end, had he not been trying to steal none of this would have happened


I hope you're not a small business owner (with this mindset)

We can agree to disagree but I hope this guy doesn't get a dime

I'd obviously be a bias juror as I've had my car and home burglarized before so I have no sympathy for a grown able bodied man trying to steal a candy bar

So what if he got bit......DONT STEAL

kingstl ,maliceinwndrland,coppertop, Lipstick Alley 16 Comments [9/14/2018 3:31:53 AM]
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Quote# 140457

Boys whose father figure is a WOMAN become effeminate homos. Girls whose father figure is a WOMAN become man-hating lesbians.

End of story. When mankind defies God's plan for the family, the punishment is confused LGBTQ offspring!!

THE WHEELS HAVE COME OFF THE WAGON!!!

CivilWarBrewing, Free Republic 20 Comments [9/14/2018 3:30:12 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 140456

I agree 100%. I knew a guy a few years back who recovered from the gay lifestyle. He had a bad relationship with his father, and his form of rebellion was experimenting with homosexuality in his early teens. Long story short, through therapy he recovered. That was 30+ years ago. He’s a happily married man now with 4 grown kids. Through his church he counsels gay men trying to leave the lifestyle and has seen about 80% success rate. He told me that nearly everyone of them had majorly screwed up childhoods.

LilFarmer, Free Republic 12 Comments [9/14/2018 3:30:08 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 140455

That's a nice sentiment, but it doesn't work in the real world. Liberalism means you have to be as unhappy as they are. And are you really "tolerant" if you and your children are not participating in their "diversity" programs?

And they always want someone else to either pay for the perversion, or pay to fix it.

Perseverando, Free Republic 8 Comments [9/14/2018 3:29:34 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 140450

So i have crush on a girl on my course,she's so hot and has pretty face (too much for me) a few days ago i went to drink coffe with a group of friends from course and so this girl was there it was so late when we finished and she went to a funfair with her friend so i followed them because we use same bus and i wanted approach her in this way while i waiting for her a dark skinned dude began disturb her and so i went and grabbed guy from his throat and told him i'll broke his head if i see him around her again and dude is gone after that.

She didn't say "thanks" and NOTHING. I just thought she being shy and yesterday i approached her but she rejected me in a insane way and blocked me in every social media accounts. I fucking hate foids they dont give shit if you save them,if youre ugly its over Btw i didn't save her just because IT is woman,i saved her because i wanted approach her afterwards

Cuyen, incels.me 16 Comments [9/14/2018 3:26:42 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 140439

The whole idea of losing one's Eternal Security is preposterous. How can a person have Eternal Security if no one can be eternally secure? It just doesn't add up. Let the Scriptures be your guide. In John 5:39 Jesus commanded His disciples to SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES!!!

Sealed with the Holy Spirit

I triple-dog dare you to show me one person in the Bible who lost their salvation. King David lost the "joy" of salvation, but he didn't lose his salvation. Jesus never spoke of anyone losing their Eternal Security. The Bible has much to say about the assurance of our salvation. As a matter of fact, God gave us the Holy Spirit as an "earnest" of our inheritance in Heaven. The Greek word for "earnest" literally means "down payment." God gave me the Holy Spirit as PROOF that I am a "purchased possession." If you are a believer, then you belong to God and He has made His claim on you.

"...ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory" —Ephesians 1:13,14


Don't tell me I can lose my salvation... my sins have been washed away by the blood of Jesus! I am a "purchased possession." The Holy Spirit is God's claim upon me as His own, which means the Devil cannot claim my soul to Hell. You cannot affect my salvation. I cannot change my eternal security. God has placed His down payment within my body—the Holy Spirit of God.

A License to Sin?

I am going to Heaven, regardless of how I live. But you say, that's crazy! No! That's Bible! So do Christians have a license to sin? Yes, if you want to view it that way.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 12 Comments [9/14/2018 3:06:10 AM]
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Quote# 140435

(In reply to another member, who said: "Abortions, contrary to the anti abortion people are reaally safe."):

Studies on this are not accurate because women die after they have the abortion and the cause is covered up. Even the death certificate if she had an abortion and died at abortion clinic, it will say...bled to death, instead of abortion.

If she dies of excessive bleeding or hemorrhage get or perforated uterus bleed out or because baby parts were left in her, these are deaths called a different name such as infection. Even an ectopic pregnancy wrongly given day after pill is deadly but not listed as abortion death, but listed as ectopic pregnancy complications. Shar
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Shar, Realabortiondebate 9 Comments [9/13/2018 8:33:54 PM]
Fundie Index: 7

Quote# 140434

Sermon 5: Growing the Church

By The Rev. William H. Grimes

Proverbs 11:30 "The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life; and he that winneth souls is wise."

Matthew 28:19 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost"

Mark 16:15 "And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature."

I've been focused on growing my local church, and I am proud of the work Bro. Steven has done with this new site. He is leading many souls to Christ with his phenomenal preaching on this site. Today, I seek mainly to provide encouragement in the soul winning going on here and the blessed work the Lord is doing with Bro. Steven and Bro. JD and this site.

It's a shame "Bro." James is apostate now, but we have won far more souls so we cannot let the rift he caused in the body of Christ to affect us too much.

If we do not preach the Gospel to every creature, PEOPLE WILL FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO OCCUPY THAT GOD-SIZED HOLE IN THEIR SOULS!!! SOME ARE TEMPTED BY THE FEMME FATALE WICKED ENCHANTRESS TAYLOR SWIFT!!!!!! SHE IS TEMPTING MEN WITH HER SOUL CRUSHING LOOKS AND WICKED FAKE BREASTS AND SHE BRAZENLY SHOWS OFF HER LEGS!!!!!! THIS CANNOT STAND! SAY AMEN IN THE HOUSE OF GOD! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

Some others choose wicked video games like Grand Theft Auto and Mortal Kombat and Banjo-Kazooie, and yet others turn to alcohol and prescription drugs and non-medical cannabis! We need to PRAY for these lost souls that they may find Christ!

The Bible says Christians will have many mockers in the last days, and an entire site is dedicated to mocking people, including us, who will stand against liberalism proudly! The Jewish sodomite controlled media will not tell you the truth, so WE have to answer the call from the Living God to PREACH the Word! I may be a mostly distant overseer of this new site, but I trust Bro. Steven will bring many souls to Christ!!!! YEEEEEEOOOOOOOWWWWWWW!!!!!

I TRULY BELIEVE WE ARE LIVING IN THE LAST DAYS, SO WE HAVE TO SAVE AS MANY SOULS AS POSSIBLE BEFORE OUR LORD RETURNS! NO CATHOLICISM, NO ORTHODOXY, NO PAPIST-LITE PROTESTANTISM, NO INFANT BAPTISM, NO "REAL PRESENCE," NO HERESY, NO FAKE PAPIST BIBLES, ONLY THE KJV! THERE IS NO ROOM FOR ERROR BECAUSE SO MANY ETERNAL SOULS ARE AT STAKE! God's people said AMEN!

The Rev. William H. Grimes, SimplyChristian 26 Comments [9/13/2018 8:31:13 PM]
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Quote# 140433

[Why do you like the USSR?]

They threw off the shackles of brutal feudalist oppression and life expectancy skyrocketed, infant mortality plummeted, industrialization and socialization caused their economy to grow at historically unprecedented levels, they produced tanks that defeated the Third Reich at a rate that astounded Hitler (we know this because the only recording we have of Hitler outside of public speeches was surreptitiously recorded in a meeting wherein he expressed this astonishment to his aides), they had the first satellite in space, the first telemetry to and from space, the first animal in space, the first man in space, the first woman in space, the first human to complete an orbit of the Earth, and the first space station.

I could go on. The USSR was really cool.

rochambeau, r/PropagandaPosters 8 Comments [9/13/2018 8:19:15 PM]
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Submitted By: The Reptilian Jew
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