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Quote# 141127

The most effective LIE is the HALF-TRUTH, because in part it can be defended with incontestable logic! For example: The official 9/11 story (concerning the New York World Trade Center attacks in 2001) is a half-truth! The part that is true is that two planes were deliberately crashed into buildings 1 and 2. The part that is false is that those planes caused the buildings to crumble to the ground. In truth (as dozens of firefighters at Ground Zero later testified), is that buildings 1, 2 and 7 were all brought down by BOMBS in the buildings!!! A demolition company (that younger brother Marvin Bush administrated) planted those explosives in the months prior to 9-11. The truth is that 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!!!

Likewise, the modern Bible versions are a HALF-TRUTH! The part that is true is that many Scripture passages have been made easier to understand (that is, the ones which haven't been horribly corrupted). The part that is false is the corruption of hundreds of key Scripture passages concerning Christ's deity, character and preeminence (i.e., the doctrine of Christ). Since some passages are made simpler for the reader to comprehend (especially bilingual speaking people), they buy into the HALF-TRUTH. The truthful part of the half-truth (i.e., that some Bible verses are made easier to understand), can be defended with incontestable logic. Who can argue with that logic? This is how Bible college professors, evangelists and church pastors are woefully deceived by Satan! The deadly LIE is that the Gospel has been corrupted—because the meaning of repentance has been corrupted, and because the way of salvation has been corrupted, Christ's deity has been corrupted, the blood has been corrupted, the Godhead has been corrupted—All in the modern Alexandrian-based Bible PERversions!!! If you have an NIV, ERV, ESV, NASB, RSV, NKJV, HCSB, LB, or some other modern polluted translation, you have a HALF-TRUTH (which is the most effective lie Satan has to offer, because it sells)!!!

Thankfully, Dr. Peter S. Ruckman fought against the same exact Bob Jones University camp that I am today! I had no idea of the magnitude of this battle until Harvest Baptist Church (all BJU graduates) forced the issue on me in 2014. I hadn't a clue! What they meant for evil, God meant for good (Genesis 50:20). I am not kidding, and you couldn't make this stuff up, Harvest's slogan for the year (with a big banner hanging up in the church auditorium for the entire year I was there) read, “God meant it for good - Genesis 50:20.” I cannot help but see the humor in all this. God is so amazing! I love the folks at Harvest, truly, so much, and I care about people; but they really deserve the knuckleheads of the year award over there! It came as an encouraging surprise to me to learn that Dr. Ruckman had paved the way before me to fight this very same noble battle over the inspiration of the Word of God. THERE IS NOT A MORE WORTHY FIGHT TODAY!

New Evangelical (by Dr. Jack Hyles)
Satan tries to redefine the term “radical”

I am a soldier for the Lord Jesus Christ. 2nd Timothy 2:3-4, “Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ. No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.” My wife divorced me in 2006 against my will. That's okay, I'll live alone and serve God by myself. I underwent two major neck surgeries in 2010 and 2011 with no one by my side. I wanted to die, but God's love kept me going. I wanted to do what Ben Fieldhouse did, but thankfully didn't. Ben Fieldhouse was a member of HBC who went and commit suicide in 2010 (about the same time I almost did too). Harvest Baptist Church kicked me out and refused to let me return. That's okay, I'll be lonely and have no social life, but I WILL STAND FOR THE TRUTH!!! I'll continue to stand alone, living alone if that is God's will for me, but I WILL STAND!!!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 22 Comments [10/31/2018 3:55:49 PM]
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Quote# 141125

Sermon 6: Rebuking "Messianic" Jews

By Bro. Steven R.

Romans 1:16 says “For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.”

“Messianic Jews” are false Christians who believe in the saving grace of the law and rabbinic Judaism instead of believing upon the Gospel of Jesus Christ. They are wicked and vile reprobate who dare not even speak the name of Christ! They say “Yeshua” which must be the false Christ they believe in or something. Their alliances with the Southern Baptist Convention is also suspect.

They worship on Saturday and they pretend that they are worshiping God but are instead mimicking the false greedy blasphemers who adhere to the false religious gobbledygook of rabbinic Judaism which is entirely foreign and unrelated to the worship of the Old Testament!!!!!!!!

If these Jews and misled Gentiles want to be able to be saved, they MUST ACCEPT CHRIST AS HE IS IN THE TRUE GOSPEL OF THE KJV AND NOT LISTEN TO THEIR MONEY GRUBBING FAKE RABBIS WHO ARE NOT LIKE BIBLICAL PASTORS, ELDERS, OR DEACONS!!!!!!!! Stay away from this farce that’s taking over the Evangelical movement and turning it into a religion of works like Romanism or Anglicanism or Mormonism!!!! YOU CANNOT DO ENOUGH TO GET INTO HEAVEN! YOU GET INTO HEAVEN BY GRACE ALONE THROUGH FAITH ALONE AND SCRIPTURE ALONE BECAUSE JESUS CHRIST DIED ON THE CROSS!!! FORSAKE ALLAH AND BUDDHA AND THIS FAKE MESSIAH “YESHUA” AND YOUR FALSE CELEBRITY IDOLS LIKE MADONNA AND TAYLOR SWIFT AND JUSTIN BIEBER AND LADY GAGA!!!!!!

Steven R., SimplyChristian 12 Comments [10/31/2018 3:52:41 PM]
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Quote# 141119

[Post is titled "Cue Potato Famine 2.0"]

Free speech advocates celebrate! The Irish can now blaspheme freely!

Ireland has voted to remove a reference to blasphemy as a punishable offense from the country’s constitution, paving the way for repeal of a law that criminalizes public utterances judged offensive to religious sensibilities.


It is becoming increasingly obvious that the true battle is neither Left vs Right nor even Globalist vs Nationalist, but rather Christianity vs Satanism in all its many guises.

Vox Day, Vox Popoli 14 Comments [10/30/2018 9:03:44 PM]
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Quote# 141118

In this fictional account,a skeptic watches a show theorizing about the origin of life on Earth.

Theorist The moon's craters are a uniform depth, like the soil is layered over a metal shell. Impact studies record a bell-like resonance. Could the moon be a hollow sphere serving as a UFO base?

Skeptic Oh, brother.

Theorist Air shafts in the Great Pyramid align with three stars in the Orion system. Perhaps the pharaohs used them as astral portals for their souls to return home.

Skeptic And if they pointed at Planet Ultron, then that would be our origin point.

Theorist Throughout history, legends speak of someone who placed us here, is watching us, and will someday return.

Skeptic That sounds kind of familiar. . . .

Theorist Seven nations have a treaty concerning the south pole, where planes are not permitted to fly over. Could it be a stopover for our alien overseers in the moon?

Skeptic This guy has nothing but questions. How about some answers?

Theorist Legends abound about the Council of Nine. There were nine major gods on Olympus. Could these have been psychic counselors from beyond the stars?

Skeptic They can believe this nonsense, but not the Bible?

Theorist The moon is the perfect size and distance to make life possible on Earth. It may have been brought here by our extraterrestrial forefathers.

Skeptic Okay, that's enough of that. [Turns off TV, gets car keys.] I need to see a church pastor.

Mick Williams, Disqus - Faith & Religion 12 Comments [10/30/2018 9:02:32 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 141117

What I perceive as bi polar/scitsophrenic is that liberals get fits when children are TEMPORARILY seperated from illegal parents entering into USA, BUT....they condone killing and permanent seperation of unborn , alive babies , from their parents. NOW HOW DOES THAT MAKE SENSE....!!!

Thom Van Rooyen, Now The End Begins 13 Comments [10/30/2018 9:00:48 PM]
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Quote# 141112

[Dee believes her free speech rights are being violated by people telling her it's not ok to send death threats]

not to mention i am not going to let yo slobber over a fight you only know one side of and a very slanted side that has no clue about the reality that they are not following a transsexual but a GNC that attacks transsexual. So let me see non of you are really trans...... and have no clue 99,98% of the trans community hates him.
You all transsexual peoples stories are the same... different outcomes but that story is always the same.
I KNEW AS A SMALL CHILD AT THIS EARLY AGE.
But i was shamed and i hid to keep this from my family because of this ...... it goes on how some overcompensated and did this...others tried to kill themselves and spent a lot of time depressed....me i was told something wonderful and my depression was gone i was happy....that turned into anger at my family when they got in my way.

Now i am me again i am happily taking care of my grandchild. but i will not let some SJW take it back away nor will i let a shemale attack my kid sisters. or me. and really what would you do after attacks that lasted a year plus and you finally really go off on them. i gave them plenty of time and enough messages that he brought it on himself.

And you can say what you want here but you will not stifle my rights to defend myself against him in any way that is merited You protect yourself from that mass any way you can.

you will never take my freedom to say and do what i want in a fight online or in person. I have the right to say what the fuck i want. do you get me you simple mined trolls.

do you understand by placing this on the internet gives me the right to defend myself against you pinheads
against the oppression of my first amendment right to freedom of speech regardless what i say or to whom when defending myself and i feel that my words are deemed you have no right to say anything about it.

See you are the morons trying to stifle the freedom of speech now.
That makes you as bad as the SJW

Dee Price, Kiwi Farms 8 Comments [10/30/2018 12:37:44 PM]
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Quote# 141106

Lets take a look at the Jimmy Saville case. Many of the people complaining about him, were 15 - 18 years old at the time, which back in his day, when everyone was sleeping with anyone, it was perfectly acceptable. You ask any rich man who lived through the 60's -> 80's, everyone was sleeping with everyone, and everyone wanted to!

There wasn't much abuse, there wasn't much neglect. It was all just free loving. Yet, here we are today, screaming about a dead man who fucked a 17 year old who at the time, wanted to sleep with him, because who didn't want to sleep with Jimmy back then!

Hyve, mmo champion 34 Comments [10/28/2018 8:02:17 PM]
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Quote# 141103

It good your heart goes out for others that don’t believe. I feel as you do but it’s nothing that can be done about it. We all have a choice and freedom to make our own decisions. There are many reasons a person doesn’t believe or stop believing. We can only pray they change and continue to love all!

Some have stopped because they were forced as a child to go to church and maybe treated bad by their Christian parents.

Some don’t like how some Christians behaves and treat others. Some people in churches has done or doing things that taken away their beliefs!

Some don’t believing because they don’t understand the Bible and think God is evil. Since they don’t understand the reason God did the things He had to do, they assume wrong. Because they don’t know God, they see His Word wrong! Someone has interpreted the Bible to them in an unbelievable and sickening way. Making God like a monster instead of righteous and good like He really is!

Some think Jesus teachings were wrong because they don’t understand what Jesus was saying. They have taken Jesus word and twisted it around to make it sound mean. A person may read misleading or wrong things on the internet about Him and His disciples!

Some want to know what kind of God will send them to Hell for not believing or worshipping Him. God doesn’t make anyone believe or worship Him. He also doesn’t send anyone to Hell. His word is what condemns you! It is written and what written has power. Everyone chooses where they go. If you don’t believe what His Word says then you made your own choice. The Bible through Jesus teaching, teaches salvation!

Then you have the ones that want proof and won’t believe or stopped because evidence of His existence isn’t there. They feel the Bible must be made up. They think God is like Santa. He is in people imagination to them. They refuse to believe! Only believers have the evidence within!

Some blame God for sufferings in this world that man-kind caused to come because of sin. Some blame Him for the death of a love one when death was passed to all because of sin. Some blame God for the evil and bad things that happens in this world when sin brought all these things. (God can’t change what His Word says, what is written will be done.)

When an innocent child dies, they will go to Heaven. It’s the one left behind that stop believing that has to worry! God may allow a child or love one to die to save him/her from suffering or something else later on. Remember Gods sees the future and we see only now! What God knows we don’t!!

WHATEVER HAPPENS IN LIFE KEEP YOUR FAITH IN GOD AND ALWAYS BELIEVE! You can’t save others but you can save yourself. You can only lead them to God if they don’t know Him but it’s up to them to become a believer.

Jackie Sweeney, A Servant of Christ, Quora 10 Comments [10/28/2018 7:52:03 PM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 141102

Tripura Chief Minister Stands By Claim Of Internet In Mahabharat Era

Tripura Chief Minister Biplab Deb had said that the epic Mahabharata indicated that ancient India had internet and satellite communications. Else Sanjay could not have been updating blind king Dhritarashtra about the battle in Kurukshetra while sitting at the palace in Hastinapur, Mr Deb argued.

New Delhi: Tripura Chief Minister Biplab Deb -- who claimed that internet and satellite communications existed in India thousands of years ago -- stuck to his guns today, directing a barb at the "narrow minded people who find it tough to believe this". His reason was not facts accepted by scientific community about what took place several thousands of years ago, but that "Indians should consider their nation to be the greatest".

"Every Indian should have a common thinking that India is best and superior country all around the world," the Chief Minister said today. "My country had the technology years ago, which no country had. I am proud of that and I think every Indian should feel proud. I want to repeat that we should accept the truth and should not get confused". He, however, acknowledged that there were narrow minded people who "want to belittle their own nation and think highly of other countries".

At an event yesterday, Mr Deb declared that the epic Mahabharata indicated that ancient India had internet and satellite communications. Else Sanjay could not have been updating blind king Dhritarashtra about the battle in Kurukshetra while sitting at the palace in Hastinapur, Mr Deb argued.

While many right-wing thinkers earlier concluded that this was evidence of television technology, Mr Deb was convinced that it something even more advanced. "There was technology available at that time... internet was there, satellite communication was there... The Europeans and the Americans may claim that it is theirs, but it is actually our technology," Mr Deb said.

Chief Minister Biplab Deb, NDTV 13 Comments [10/28/2018 7:48:08 PM]
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Quote# 141100

Fake Hate: 9 False Discrimination Stories the Media Ran With

The left loves to portray the right as bigots who hate minorities, women, Muslims, and gays. So the media latch onto any claim of perceived discrimination or hate, real or not, and report it with glee (forget investigation and due diligence!).

Obviously, crimes do occur that are genuinely motivated by someone’s ethnicity, religion or sexual orientation. But many are simply hoaxes committed by liberal activists for the cause of furthering their agenda. The media makes no distinctions in figuring out which ones are real and which are staged.

Just this past week, two more alleged hate crimes were debunked. After a gay bar owner’s business burned down in 2012, he complained he was ‘targeted’ because of his sexual orientation. He finally admitted to committing the act himself and was charged August 4.

In Tennessee last Tuesday, a court ruled that a lesbian couple had spray painted anti-gay slurs on their own garage before burning their house down and blaming it on their neighbor.

It’s not as if this hasn’t been done many times before. In just the past five years alone, two very similar cases attracted the media's attention. In 2011, a lesbian couple from Colorado staged their own anti-gay home vandalism that the media pounced on as a “hate crime.” Again, in 2012, lesbian Charlie Rogers mutilated herself with anti-gay slurs, faked a kidnapping story and burnt her house down in a hate crime hoax that garnered national attention.

Here are nine more (out of many!) fake hate crimes from the past five years that the media fell for and ran with.

(Marsh proceeds to list 9 very real and tragic crimes which she claims are fake)

…..

It pays to be a victim

A common thread the media ignores in these stories is the reputation of the alleged victims. They are nearly always activists who have made false claims in the past and they finally got their ‘big break’ in receiving nation-wide attention for their lie. When their story is found to be a complete fabrication, where does the blame go? Certainly not on them. Nor on the media, who will take any liberal voice at face value, regardless of reputation.

Kristine Marsh, Newsbusters 10 Comments [10/28/2018 7:38:07 PM]
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Quote# 141099

Taylor Swift is a spiritual nightmare to tween and teen girls today! She's public enemy number one to teen girls! Please don't let that little witch deceive you with her wickedness! Let all the kooks, Communists, quacks and queers rage, God is still on His throne!!! Judgment Day is soon coming for everyone!!! Oh listen my friend, God loves you! God sent His only begotten Son into the world to die on the cross for your sins and mine. What has the Devil ever done for you? That's right, nothing! Taylor Swift serves the Devil. Her perverted videos, and songs about shaking your butt, and seeking revenge on others is worldliness. Taylor Swift didn't pay for your sins. Christ died on the cross for your sins! Jesus was buried, and then He miraculously arose bodily from the dead three days later. Jesus Christ did that for you friend! Romans 5:8, “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.” I love you enough, whoever you may be, to tell you THE TRUTH!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 20 Comments [10/28/2018 7:36:25 PM]
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Quote# 141096

Dying teen in jail told to ‘suck it up’

MIAMI -- A supervising guard at a juvenile jail told a dying teen to “suck it up” as the boy retched, wept and moaned from stomach pain, evidence given to a grand jury shows.

Some guards tried to get help for 17-year-old Omar Paisley before he died of a burst appendix, the records show, but their supervisors and jail nurses believed he was faking or exaggerating.

“Ain’t nothing wrong with his ass,” one nurse said, according to seven boxes of documents examined by The Miami Herald for a story published Friday.
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https://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20040228/dying-teen-in-jail-told-to-suck-it-up



Maybe I'm the only one who's seeing the oddity here, but a prisoner who was in for a sentence of unstated length for attacking his neighbor suddenly gets 'ill' on the FIRST day he's there? I'm sorry, but I have no sympathy for this kid. His family, yea, seeing as any death in any family is a personal tragedy, but here's a thought for all you people calling for the heads of those who allowed this kid to die...

Where was he and why was he there?

He was in a jail for attacking his neighbor. He was in JAIL for ATTACKING HIS NEIGHBOR. Oh, let me repeat that just once more, so there is NO question. HE WAS IN JAIL FOR ATTACKING HIS NEIGHBOR.

*sighs* Ok, now, let's move on.

A ruptured appendix, from what I remember on my first-responders class can lead to death in 12-24 hours if surgery is no performed to clean out the lower bowels. What you have here is a punk kid, a criminal, who's been in a jail for (if the timeline provided within the story is accurate) under 48 hours. Now, tell me, at what point did he suddenly feel 'real bad?' From what I remember from my first-responders class, an inflammed pre-rupture appendix is supposed to rate somewhere between "stabbed in the gut" painful and "stabbed in the gut with a rusty knife" painful. If he was able to simply state that "My stomach (hits buzzer, sorry bub, wrong body part!) hurts real bad" then the staff physician ain't going to look for appendicitis. If he'd said something like "I've got a sharp pain below my stomach" then he might have gotten a bit more attention.

As far as symptoms, puking, shitting, and sweating were all symptoms of MY last bout with influenza, so if this guy is doing it, I doubt that anyone's gonna take a second look.

Finally, for those of you who are calling for the head of the nurse who "didn't want to take that shit home to her kids," lets ask what type of nurse was she? Was she a nurse-practicioner? Was she a registered nurse? Was she an LPN? No, the article doesn't say. She may or may not have been qualified to do something. How well stocked was the clinic in this punk's jail? Again, the article doesn't say. You don't know that she could have done anything even if she was inclined to do so. What it does say is that she (the nurse) did come, did examine him (however briefly,) concluded that (in combination with the doctor's previous assessment that it was a stomach virus) "Ain't nothing wrong with his ass" and then proceeded to file the paperwork to get him transferred to a hospital.

Ladies and gentelmen, the folks in the jail did their job. If that kid wasn't a criminal, then maybe he'd be alive today. Isn't this what the same ones of you in the 'dumbass driver, silly car-wreck' type threads refer to as karma? You know, he fucked up, and it came around and bit him in the ass?


You are blaming the kid of being in prison in the first place for his inhumane death caused by negligent nurses and doctors who didn't do their fucking jobs.

You are blaming a teenager (who probably dropped out of school) for not being able to explain clearly where the pain was to a doctor. Moreover, it's all fucking speculation... you don't even fucking know what exactly happened, what the kid said, how he cried...

Fuck you!



Well, yea. Seems you've figured out what I'm trying to get at. It engaged in a criminal behavior, and was found guilty of said behavior before a court of law, and was placed by said court in a juvinile confinement facility for a (as yet unknown) term. If it had not engaged in it's criminal activities, well, then it wouldn't have been hauled in front of a court, sentenced, and jailed, and thus exposed to the (as it seems to be a concensus in here, with myself being the only dissenting voice) incompentent and lazy docs and nurses.

The teenager put himself in this position. The teenager got what he had coming to him. As far as the "What the kid said, how he cried..." bit, go ahead, pull my heart strings (yes, I do have them. I'm not totally inhuman.) In this case, nothing's gonna happen. I reserve my compassion for folks like our fellow Doper "Lady Kate" who caught the shit end of a stick from her SO. I feel badly for the kid who got outed in the thread that "Matt_MCL" put up earlier this week. But these folks didn't get themselves into the prediciments that they were in. Someone else did something to them. The shit in our article here got himself into this prediciment. Sorry, no sympathy here.



What I really want to know is did this kid pray for forgiveness for what he did to get himself into this situation before he died, or did he die believing that he'd done no wrong? If someone can come up with a cite that shows he'd had some remorse for his crimes and expressed it as his time came, the I'll apologize for my words.

Fushjoomang, The straight dope 13 Comments [10/28/2018 4:44:52 PM]
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Quote# 141086

Today's Laugh 10-23-18




TRANSCRIPTION

(front of plane says POLLS, and wing has broken)

MAN (presumably Chuck Schumer): We need to resist Trump harder. More calls for violence against Republicans!
WOMAN: (presumably Nancy Pelosi): I'll get Uncle Soros to finance a third caravan!


Mick Williams, Disqus - Faith & Religion 24 Comments [10/26/2018 5:11:42 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta McFucken

Quote# 141077

You will believe a man over God.

The fear of man is a snare and a trap.

The fear of God is pure, leads you to knowledge, understanding, and wisdom.

The Holy Spirit of God leads you into all truth.

Your error is listening to man over Gods word. REPENT, you are self-deceived.

You were told by Jesus not to believe every spirit but to test it to see wether or not the truly are from God. You failed to obey JESUS>

Susan Perelka, Christian News Network 16 Comments [10/26/2018 4:49:42 PM]
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Quote# 141074

I am trying to unblur the way you see the sin of sexual immorality because I hope you come to God through Christ Jesus seeking forgiveness of your sins and thereby have your name recorded in the Lamb's Book of Life and avoid the judgments of God to come.

Doug Bristow, Christian News Network 8 Comments [10/26/2018 4:46:45 PM]
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Quote# 141072

Romans 2:1-3, “Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things. But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things. And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?”


Please don't misunderstand our text verse. You might mistake what God is saying, to think that it is only wrong to judge someone if we are doing that same particular sin. But that is not what God is teaching us. The Lord is saying that WE ARE ALL SINNERS; therefore, NO ONE has a right to point fingers in condemnation of other who sin. You may not commit murder, but if you gossip you are just as guilty. You may not commit adultery, but if you harbor hatred against another person, Jesus said that is equivalent to murder (Matthew 5:21-22). In other words, don't judge others because they sin differently than you do!

And please notice carefully that the Holy Bible doesn't say the sin of judging others is inexcusable, it says that the person doing the judging is inexcusable. In other words, no one gets a free pass when it comes to judging others. If you throw rocks at anyone who sins, YOU WILL BE JUDGED FOR IT in eternity. I am not talking about the courts punishing crime. I am talking about condemning someone who has faltered in the past, and you refuse to let them live it down. I am talking about criticizing someone based upon mere rumors and hearsay, not upon solid evidence. The very name of Satan means “the accuser.” Revelation 12:10, “And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.” The internet today is rife with unjust criticism, unfounded rumors, slanderous gossip, satanic hatred and all manner of filthy communication! Anybody can, and does, say anything about anyone! In America today, you are deemed guilty until proven innocent in the court of public opinion, in the ungodly manure-spreading media, and in our Masonic legal system.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 12 Comments [10/26/2018 4:42:11 PM]
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Quote# 141070


Okay, I've said it before, and I'll say it again (this time I'll just elaborate): its only God that defines marriage; not you, not humans, not the government, not some activists, just God alone.

And before you say stuff like "Then polygamy is okay", or "But love is love!", or whatever excuse you're about to come up with, let me just get some stuff straight here, especially on some certain issues:


Polygamy
Okay, some of you may think that there are people in the Bible that practice polygamy (well, there were). But the big question is this: is polygamy acceptable? The answer is no.

Can a man love more than one wife? Certainly not.

A man cannot love more than one wife, neither should a woman love more than one husband. (1 Corinthians 7:1-2). The Scriptures tells us that "each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband." This sinful practice can be classified as a combination of fornication and adultery.

In countries such as Brazil and Netherlands that have legalized it, it has created a whole deal of chaos in those families, and the rest of the people.

Polygamous marriages, (or known to some countries as "group marriages"), can put a whole household into so much unrest and ruins, and it will have a negative impact on children living in polygamous families.

Having said that, polygamy is also classified as greed, because they will even take other men's wives, which before God is wrong. God created marriage between 1 man and 1 woman, Adam and Eve, not one man and multiple wives, not even Adam and multiple Eves.

Now I mentioned it, during Issac's time, people were seeing polygamy as a norm (which before God its not). But Issac married only one wife, and that's Rebekah. He loved her dearly, and he was loyal to her that he did not take another wife for any reason whatsoever.

Joseph, the 11th son of Jacob did not take many wives himself; he only married one woman, and had two sons with her.

Some of you reading this may think that the Bible condones polygamy. Wrong. And in case you didn't know, it's actually Islam that allows that practice, not Christianity. And with that being said, God's Word never for once approves it. The Bible also says "Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold." (Deuteronomy 17:17). Even the New Testament makes it clear that men are ought to have one wife, for example, when speaking about the role of the elders it says "A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach" (1 Timothy 3:2).
Bear in mind that phrase "the husband of one wife"; not two, not three, not four, not even 100, but one wife. That just tells you that polygamy is clearly unacceptable.

To all Christians reading this, and to all who are looking forward to be married someday, stick to one husband/wife.

Arranged marriage

Regardless of what you think, human beings are not Matchmakers. Okay? Unfortunately this thing is happening across the globe, more especially among rich people and Muslims. Some will even sell their daughters as child brides, which is totally wrong. Some will even kidnap young girls to forcefully marry them. That is why you even see human trafficking here, where they sell girls as child brides, forcing them to marry at such a young age. Its repulsive. Its wrong. Its downright immoral.

I mean, seriously, why can't they understand that God is the real Matchmaker? They just end up taking it into their own hands, and that never ends well. At all.

I mean, during Issac time, he wanted to marry but none of the ladies living there are even eligible because they all worship pagan gods. So God used Abraham's servant Eliezar, to bring the right wife for Issac.

God has His own way of bringing the right husband/wife for you, if you simply leave the matter to God's hands!

Same-sex "marriage"

A very widely debated topic, still going on today. And believe it or not, same-sex "marriage" is and will always be a sin. In fact, when it comes to homosexuality itself, the Bible does clearly forbids it. In countries such as Spain and Argentina that have allowed this practice, it has created a great deal of damage, to the point it even destroyed many families, and it is a very grave injustice to equality. Even in Netherlands, there has been a significant fall in the marriage rate since the day marriage was redefined. In France, there have been continuous large scale protests against this practice, even after the law was passed. In this century we live in, homosexuality is considered normal by many people. Whenever it is mentioned, it is not uncommon to hear someone ask "What's wrong with two people of the same gender falling in love? Isn't it normal?" The answers to these questions can be found in none other than the Bible.

In the modernized world we live in, people (especially Christians) are labelled as "homophobes" for not agreeing with homosexuality or anything related to it such as same-sex 'marriage', which is just foolish mentality.

The world considers what God clearly tells is unnatural to be natural (Romans 1:26-27). Some may argue that God's law forbidding homosexuality was only for the Old Covenant which God made between Himself and the Israelites. However, a quick search of the Scriptures will show that the New Testament has more verses condemning homosexuality than the Old Testament does.

Jesus himself gave God's definition of marriage in Mark 10:6-9, when he was speaking about marriage and grounds of divorce. He said that in the beginning 'God made them male and female.' He also said that "a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh'; so then they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate."

Plus, God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. Geez man.

Recent polls also show that children are better off with a married mother and father than same-sex couples.

The worst part about that is that some of todays churches are even accepting it as a norm. No. Its shouldn't be that way. Its not good, its not Biblical, its not Godly, its not right.

Please read the journal for more information: fcu777.deviantart.com/journal/…

Transgender "marriage"

Possibly one of the rarely debated issues, transgender 'marriage' is as worse as same-sex 'marriage'. It will affect everybody in a really drastic way. When men liberalizes sin, and when sin demands rights and acceptance, that very nation will crumble down, and will eventually lead people to Hell. This practice is not genetically based, and it is not simply a psychological disorder that "have to live with"; it is rebellion against God's plan.

God created marriage solely between one man and one woman, but in today's world, they disregard the Truth and not only promote same-sex 'marriage', but also promote laws that involves a transgender person who was born a male to marry a man, and a transgender person born a female to marry a woman.

The most basic to our understanding of sex is that God created two (and only two) genders: male and female, as He created Adam as a man, and Eve as a woman. (Genesis 1:27). There is no room for error in God's creation, and no one is born with the "wrong body." as the transsexual activists so claim.

They may think they are right all the time, but God will weigh their hearts (Proverbs 21:2). And the Scriptures clearly warned of such pride:

"For the wicked boasts of the desires of his soul, and the one greedy for gain curses and renounces the Lord. In the pride of his face the wicked does not seek him; all his thoughts are, "There is no God." ~ Psalms 10:3-4

"For the sin of their mouths, the words of their lips, let them be trapped in their pride. For the cursing and lies that they utter" ~ Psalms 59:12

"For all that is in the world—the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride of life—is not from the Father but is from the world." ~ 1 John 2:16

And also the Bible says that He resists the proud and give grace to the humble (Proverbs 3:34). Some people (even the LGBT activists, and so-called Christians) may argue "But what's wrong with pride?!", when pride, unfortunately is what Satan uses to lead more people to Hell. It is no wonder that many are too comfortable in sin that they are very hardened against The Word of God.

A man should stay as a man, and a woman should stay as a woman, is that too hard to ask?

See this for more information: fcu777.deviantart.com/journal/…

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What marriage is
When you hear the word marriage, its earliest use of that very English word dates back to the 13th century. However, it's more valuable than we can ever think. Having said so, there is more to marriage than just "love and romance". Unfortunately, many seem to deny that.

Who created marriage in the first place? God did. In the book of Genesis, highlights God's plan for marriage as it says:

"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. And God blessed them. And God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth." ~ Genesis 1:27-28
First of all, marriage, is not something that just happened recently in the century we live in. In fact the first marriage took place right in the beginning, when Adam and Eve are joined together as husband and wife (Genesis 3:21-24).

After he created Adam and all the animals, God said “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.” . So He put Adam to sleep, “and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.” (Genesis 2:21,22)

When a man and a woman get married they commit themselves to spending their lives in a new relationship. It is a partnership of love, made richer and deeper through sex. Like many people, Christians regard it as the best context for nurturing children. It is also seen as the best (many Christians would say the only) setting for sex.

In any marriage ceremony the bride and groom must confirm that they want to marry each other, and after the opportunity has been given publicly for anyone present to prevent the marriage if there is a legal reason, the couple join hands and make promises. They exchange rings, which are worn as a reminder of these promises for the duration of their married life.

Marriage is more than a man a woman joined together, it is a beautiful gift from God, a marital devotion solely between one man and one woman as God created it to be. And to add to it, marriage is meant to be for life, and not some cheap contract for people to use and dump. Jesus gave a solid warning concerning divorce, when He said, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her. And if a woman divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery." (Mark 10:11-12). Simple as that. Having said this, in marriage there should be room for reconciliation, else how can that marriage even stand?

"And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband: But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife." ~ 1 Corinthians 7:10-11

There are aspects that can either build or crumble down a marriage: fcu777.deviantart.com/journal/…



A spiritual aspect on marriage

Now, there is more to marriage than the earthly one itself. Having said this, if you look at the issue in a spiritual aspect, it actually reflects our relationship between us the Church, the children of God for that matter and our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ who is the head of the Church, the body of Christ to be precise. The earthly marriage has this high symbolism that most of us unfortunately are not even aware of or chose to overlook .

If you look at Isaiah 54:5 where it says "For thy Maker is thine husband; the Lord of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called." And also the Bible says that the husband is the head of the wife "even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior." And that as wives submit to their husbands, so do we as Christians submit ourselves to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and His will (Ephesians 5:23,24,32).

This is something we as Christians really need to keep in mind.

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In Conclusion

Marriage is a very beautiful union that God has created. In fact, the government did NOT create marriage, God did. Marriage is more than just about love and romance between two people, it is a holy marital devotion between a man and a woman, the way God designed it. And before you ask, in as much as marriage is important, and it is a beautiful union defined by God as between one man and one woman, we are actually given a choice whether to marry or not. I mean 1 Corinthians 7:8-9 says "I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, it is good for them if they abide even as I. But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn." That just shows you that marriage is not by force. All in all, marriage is and always will be between one man and one woman.


Freesu-San, DeviantART 19 Comments [10/26/2018 4:30:05 PM]
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Quote# 141069

unstablestopsign: marriage is for love. whether it's a guy and a girl or two girls. build yourself a bridge and get over it

LordElthibar: Wrong. Marriage is a sacred institution between one man and one woman. And no Church should be forced to ordain a gay "marriage."

unstablestopsign: I went to a fucking mental hospital because of ignorant homophobes like you trying to tell me what love is and what it's not. It's assholes like you why kids are committing suicide and giving religion a bad name.

LordElthibar: I'm not ignorant. I understand the harsh reality of life. Don't blame me or people like me for the suicide of others. Do I force these people to commit suicide? No! They take their own lives!
Stop trying to guilt trip people. It makes your side only look bad and more aggressive.

unstablestopsign: You slam gay people with the bible think it'll turn them straight magically. It gives them this mindset to think they're broken and worthless such as myself. Please understand no matter how much bible verses you throw at gay people you're not changing who they love.

LordElthibar: No, I'm slamming their behavior. They are not worthless at all. They can be honest businessmen, layers, voters, and teachers. But marriage is not a thing that they are qualified for.

LordElthibar, DeviantART 7 Comments [10/26/2018 4:25:28 PM]
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Quote# 141068

Just a highlight on what the real meaning of marriage is.

First off, marriage is not man-made, it is ordained by God as between one man and one woman regardless of what new laws come out to say otherwise. Adam and Eve are the first to be joined together as husband and wife.

Second, marriage is meant to be for life, and not some cheap contract for people to use and dump. Jesus gave a solid warning concerning divorce, when He said, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her. And if a woman divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery." (Mark 10:11-12). Simple as that. Having said this, in marriage there should be room for reconciliation, else how can that marriage even stand?

"And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband: But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife." ~ 1 Corinthians 7:10-11

In case you want more information on that: fcu777.deviantart.com/journal/…

Thirdly, some of the so-called modern "marriages" like polygamy, same-sex 'marriage', those before God are wrong, sinful, and just null and void.

And lastly, as Christians we have to be very watchful though, and also the Bible says that looks deceive (which can be found in the book of Proverbs) and also says that "Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband." (1 Corinthians 7:2), because there are some who claim to be Christians but inwardly, they are wolves in sheep's clothing. I mean, why in the world is the need for committing immorality just to get the right husband/wife, when God is the Real Matchmaker and His time is the best?

Seriously? When a man and a woman get married they commit themselves to spending their lives in a new relationship. It is a partnership of love, made richer and deeper through sex. Like many people, Christians regard it as the best context for nurturing children. It is also seen as the best (many Christians would say the only) setting for sex.

In any marriage ceremony the bride and groom must confirm that they want to marry each other, and after the opportunity has been given publicly for anyone present to prevent the marriage if there is a legal reason, the couple join hands and make promises. They exchange rings, which are worn as a reminder of these promises for the duration of their married life.

Marriage is more than a man a woman joined together, it is a gift from God.

The government did NOT create marriage, God did. Marriage is more than just about love and romance between two people, it is a holy marital devotion between a man and a woman, the way God designed it.

Freesu-san, DeviantART 8 Comments [10/26/2018 4:25:10 PM]
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Quote# 141066

(=A comic straw manning Universalism followed by the authors description=)

Christian upon appearing in Heaven: Yaayyyyy!!! I'm in Heaven! It's so amazing here! Praise God! Praise-

(*Christian stops with a dejected look on his face*)

Christian: Um...Lord why is this famous atheist here...in heaven ?

God: Oh...because I love him and he doesn't deserve Hell.

Christian: But he hated you! He fought you and your teachings. He attacked all Christians...

God: True...but he's a good moral man. He's a wonderful person and very, very intelligent.

Christian (*Looking More Dejected*): There's a scammer here to. He used the Bible to scam people and preach a false gospel. He scammed millions off your followers.

God: Yes, yes. But he was still following my laws and preaching the gospel anyways.

Christian: Oh my goodness...that famous dictator is here to...

God: Yes, everyone is here! Isn't that great! I love everyone! Don't judge my decisions.

Christian: He killed millions of people! Including many Christians!

God: I said don't judge my decisions.

Christian (*Looking absolutely mortified*): Wait a minute...Lord, you mean I could have lived my life any way I wanted to and still be in heaven ?

God: That's right! I said Hell is only for the devil and his angels! I love everyone and no one deserves Hell!

Authors description: If the belief of Universalism was true, then maybe God would be something like this? Where everyone goes to heaven, no matter what.

Many people can't believe God would send people to Hell and refuse to believe it, claiming God is a kind, loving god. Which He is, but God is also a God of justice and holiness, but they deny what the Bible clearly shows multiple times about Hell, that is where people will go if they don't follow Jesus.

If people deny God and His existance and refuse to follow His ways, or follow their own version of God, why do they deserve a place in heaven?

Sadly, the idea that Hell doesn't exist and that it's only a state of mind is starting to get more popular with Christians, especially with those in the Emergent Church movement.

Remember what Jesus said in John 14:6 "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

ArtNGame215, DeviantART 19 Comments [10/25/2018 8:56:27 PM]
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Submitted By: CC

Quote# 141063

I still don't like this To Catch A Predator bullshit. Some of them are out there looking, yes, but many of them are lured into it.


Thats the point. The real sick person there is the guy who is aggressivly pushing someone to do the deed, breaking down their will, then taking some moral ground for it.
Lol I mean when is the person who provokes someone into a fight ever truly innocent? Why is this any different?


Yep. The better way to stop girls from hooking up with men is for parents to wake up. That "To Catch A Predator" show is disgusting. So many of the victims on that show are average men just trolling around the internet, and a nice hot pie of sexy bait was put down right under their nose, offering themselves up willingly. If there wasn't any bait in the first place doing that, many of those men would have never even considered it. Ruin people's lives just for a tv show. You think that guy will keep his friends, his job, his family when they see that episode? It's horrible.


most states require a 4 year age gap for statutory rape
it's pretty fucked up how many of you in this thread are pro-pedophilia. you disgust me
vizzle: there is no way you feel bad for pedophiles who hook up with people who pretend to be 14 year old girls and you're not one yourself. normal people do not sympathize with grown men who look to fuck 14 year old girls


Nobody here is pro-pedophilia. We're saying that the way they lure these men is horrible.

Give a man a bomb, an empty room, and the person he hates the most in the world, and make him believe that nobody will ever know what happens, and you're sure to see an explosion. Would that man kill under normal circumstances though? Not always.


Do you take issue with police leaving bait cars out to catch thieves? I'm sure most wouldn't consider stealing a car if one wasn't left sitting right out in front of them, right? It doesn't matter whether there's a lure or not; any decent human being wouldn't even entertain the thought of banging a kid.


Considering men have been fucking young girls for all of written history except for the last hundred years or so because people suddenly decided it's taboo, and in some places around the world the legal consent is 14, I really don't understand this giant "OH MY GOD YOU'RE A PEDOPHILE" epidemic plaguing everyone. I'm not a pedophile, I'm not pro-pedophile, I'm anti-rape (of course) and I don't like it when girls are abused, but I think it's silly that all of a sudden we have to change the way humans think despite the fact that men have been doing it for centuries and still do, legally, in parts of the world.


Men have been killing people since the dawn of time. We've also raped women because they were below us. We also kept slaves. Do I need to seriously compile an entire thesis of things we've done up until the last century that we shouldn't have been doing in the first place?


Yes, but killing and raping have always been "bad". Men and girls getting married and raising families together was always normal.


if you think it's ok for a grown man to fuck a 14 year old kid, then you are a pedophile. just because they married off 14 year old kids and traded them for sheep in the dark ages when everyone died at 28 doesn't mean it's ok


You honestly should be infracted for spouting "pedophile" at everyone who has a different opinion from you. If a 14 year old girl wants to do it with a man, I see no reason why she shouldn't. It's the responsibility of the parents to make sure she is educated and knows about it, to make sure she won't do something stupid. Biologically, there is nothing wrong with a girl having sex at that age.


[Bali] 14 year old teen arrested on Drug charges
Australian authorities have confirmed that a 14-year-old boy from NSW has been arrested in Indonesia after allegedly being caught with drugs while on holiday in Bali.The boy was arrested on Tuesday, allegedly in possession of a small amount of marijuana.
He could face a lengthy jail term if convicted of possession charges, which carry a maximum penalty of 12 years in jail.


Can't really feel sorry for him, he knew the consequences when he did it.


HHe was 14, he probably didn't. 12 years? thats irrational. I don't do weed, but I dont even think it should be illegal, while alcohol isn't.


How would you not know that getting caught with drugs is illegal when you're 14? Unless you're completely unaware of the outside world (which I'm going to assume he isn't) a 14 year old, even if he doesn't know the ins and outs of the law completely, would definitely know that drugs = illegal.

vizzle, MMO Champion 15 Comments [10/25/2018 4:21:25 PM]
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Quote# 141062

(commenting on story "Parents Speak Out After ‘Drag Queen’ Included Among Literacy Day Speakers at Middle School")

Amos Moses:
THERE IT IS ...... they cant just keep it in the library and in their private lives and in their pants ..... they have to display it ... not just to children in the library ..... but to children eveywhere ...... and the PRIDE of homoMIRAGE keeps paying dividends for the depraved of mind, soul, and spirit ........... this is rank pedophilic grooming ..... it has been the goal all along ...........

finian:
No...just no, there is absolutely no mention of gay marriage in this story whatsoever. This story is about drag queens. Focus your outrage in the correct place please.

Amos Moses:
so what ...... it is the same depravity of mind, soul, and spirit .......... you should focus on your own depravity instead of making excuses for others .......

Amos Moses, Christian News Network 12 Comments [10/25/2018 4:15:10 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 141060

While I'm preaching the simplicity that is in Christ, that is, THE GOSPEL; Harvest Baptist Church is telling people that they have to turn away from a lifestyle of sin to be saved (I heard it with my own two ears in 2014), which is EXACTLY what John MacArthur teaches. Furthermore, Mr. MacArthur teaches that GOD CHOOSES who gets saved and who doesn't. This heresy of Calvinism is called, “Unconditional Election” or more popularly, “Predestination.” Pastor Max D. Younce does an excellent job refuting this popular damnable heresy in his book called, NOT CHOSEN TO SALVATION! (pdf download). Also, here is an excellent 8-part MP3 or video Bible study refuting the damnable heresy of Predestination, by Dr. Max Younce...

Free To Believe: Refutation Of Predestination | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 (Pastor Max D. Younce)

Free To Believe: Refutation Of Predestination | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 (great MP3 Bible study)

We all have our burdens as preachers, to expose some particular false prophet (like Joel Osteen) or a group of false prophets (like Seventh-Day Adventists), and I have a burden to expose the corrupt Baptist church that banned me from returning because I stood for THE TRUTH!!! I will gladly expose any so-called “New Testament church” that promotes Dr. John MacArthur, and the satanic modern Bible versions that redefine repentance to mean changing your life to be saved. That is exactly what Harvest Baptist Church uses, the Easy-To-Read Version (ERV). There is so much doctrinally wrong with this church that they ought not even call themselves a New Testament church!!! No wonder the pastor's leaving. I don't care anymore who gets offended. I have a voice and I'm going to use it to expose ANYONE who teaches, sells and promotes satanic heresy!!!

I actually had a local shameful Baptist pastor sinfully accuse me of being “obsessed” with the Bible issue debate. OF COURSE I AM, AND JUSTLY PROUD OF IT TOO!!!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 18 Comments [10/24/2018 1:58:23 PM]
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Quote# 141059

We don’t really give a damn about what happens to the USA. They just had to ruin everything in Europe during WW2 and are now going to reap what they sow. Great-grandchildren will pay for the sins of their ancestors. Trump won’t be enough to save the USA from the immigrant hordes and if you believe his speeches about empty “nationalism” then you are being had. Only the spirit of the European in the USA folk can save what is left of the American Empire.

CARLO ABRUZZI, Forza Nuova USA 15 Comments [10/24/2018 1:16:09 PM]
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Submitted By: hydrolythe

Quote# 141058

[Comment under "Were most of the Jews killed in WW2 partisans?"]

I haven't seen any evidence of this. I think it's possible to appreciate and respect the good aspects of national socialism and the Third Reich without finding obscure ways to rationalize the Holocaust, especially considering it was primarily a wartime measure that probably would not have happened if there had not been a war. The fact is that atrocities happen often in war; the Jewish Holocaust was not particularly unique in that respect except in terms of the numbers. It really says very little about whether or not national socialism is a good or bad ideology.

crummocks, Reddit - r/DebateFascism 11 Comments [10/24/2018 1:10:26 PM]
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Submitted By: JeanP
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