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Quote# 125015

“My sexual promiscuity is more important than a dirty little baby’s life.”

Hands off my uterus! Who wants that barren piece of anatomy, anyway baby?

How many methods of contraception do women have today? There is a veritable cornucopia of methods available to women to prevent pregnancy from happening in the first place. But, rather than taking responsibility and actually using one of the dozen and a half methods below, feminists refuse to show the world how Strong and Independent™ they really are by preventing conception and instead opting to fight to the death for the right to kill their unborn children in utero.

Feminists, why not try one of these methods rather than sucking children out of the womb through a tube as is the case in a first trimester abortion, or dismembering them and crushing their skulls as is the case in a second and third trimester abortion?

Birth Control Sponge (Today Sponge)
Birth Control Patch
Birth Control Vaginal Ring (NuvaRing)
Birth Control Pills
Birth Control Shot (Depo-Provera)
Birth Control Implant (Implanon and Nexplanon)
Female Condom
Cervical Cap (FemCap)
Fertility Awareness-Based Methods (FAMs)
Pull Out Method (Withdrawal)
Morning-After Pill (Emergency Contraception)
Sterilization for Women (Tubal Sterilization)

How sadistic are you bitches anyway, to push for abortion rather than personal responsibility, and valuing life rather than presiding over the death of your culture at the hands of your own selfishness?

Relampago Furioso, Return of Kings 18 Comments [2/28/2017 10:24:19 PM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 125014

An ultra-conservative, pro-Kremlin Russian lawmaker has sparked an anti-Semitism row after saying the ancestors of local Jewish opposition figures in St. Petersburg 'boiled Christians in cauldrons'.

Vitaly Milonov, a Duma deputy known for his anti-gay initiatives, lashed out at the weekend at two local lawmakers who are leading a protest against handing over St Isaac's Basilica to the Russian Orthodox Church.

'Christians survived despite the fact that the ancestors of Boris Vishnevsky and Maksim Reznik boiled us in cauldrons and fed us to animals,' Milonov said at a rally on Sunday to support the controversial handover.

Vitaly Milonov, ChristianToday 3 Comments [2/28/2017 10:24:08 PM]
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Submitted By: Hu's On First

Quote# 125013

A young woman in an isolated part of Nicaragua has died a week after being tied up and allegedly thrown on a fire in an exorcism ritual.

Family members told local media that Vilma Trujillo had been attacked by four people led by a man who said he was an evangelical pastor.

Juan Rocha denied burning Mrs Trujillo, saying evil spirits had suspended her above the fire and then dropped her.

The woman, 25, was found by relatives hours later with severe burns.

The police have arrested Mr Rocha and a number of other people allegedly involved in the attack.

The victim's husband, Reynaldo Peralta Rodriguez, said the mother-of-two was taken inside a church last week when members thought she was possessed after allegedly trying to attack people with a machete, the Associated Press reports.

"It's unforgiveable what they did to us," he was quoted as saying.

"They killed my wife, the mother of my two little ones. Now what am I going to tell them?"

Pablo Cuevas, a spokesman for Nicaragua's Human Rights Commission, called on the government for firmer control over religious sects in the country.

"It is incredible that these things can happen today, there has to be a review by the authorities into all the different denominations and religions," he said. "We can't have things like this happening."

Women's Rights groups said the case was an example of fanaticism and misogyny.

Juanita Jimenez of the Autonomous Women's Movement (MAM) told local media that it was also the product of a lack of state presence in isolated parts of the country and an act of barbarity.

"Apart from the religious aspect, nothing justifies an act that is as cruel as burning a woman, putting her on a fire with the help of other people who you have used religion to manipulate," the activist said.

Juan Rocha, BBC News 9 Comments [2/28/2017 10:23:18 PM]
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Quote# 125012

When Tanveer Ahmed was sentenced to a minimum of 27 years in jail for murder last August, Judge Lady Rae said he had committed a "brutal, barbaric and horrific crime".

Ahmed stabbed to death Glasgow shopkeeper Asad Shah - who belonged to the persecuted Ahmadi sect - because he believed he was committing blasphemy by uploading online videos in which he claimed to be a prophet.

But in Pakistan, Ahmed is developing a growing number of supporters who see him as a "defender of Islam" for having killed someone they believed to be disrespecting the Prophet Muhammad.

On Monday evening, about 400 gathered outside his family's home in the city of Mirpur, in Pakistan-administered Kashmir for a rally in his honour. The crowd chanted slogans praising Ahmed as "brave" and "courageous".

One man attending said: "Because of what he did, the whole of Pakistan knows who he is."

Another speaker told supporters Ahmed could help mediate their prayers.

"You should close your eyes, raise your hand towards the sky and pray, making Ghazi [warrior] Tanveer your representative," he said.

The event was organised by the anti-blasphemy religious lobby group Labaik Ya Rasool Ullah (Here I am present, o Prophet of Allah).

The same group has championed another killer - Mumtaz Qadri - who in 2011 shot dead a high profile Pakistani politician for trying to reform the country's blasphemy laws.

Blasphemy is an emotive issue in Pakistan, where it is legally punishable by death.

After Qadri was executed last year, tens of thousands of his supporters attended his funeral, and a shrine housing his tomb has been built in Rawalpindi.

Hardline cleric Khadim Rizvi is one of the leading figures in Labaik Ya Rasool Ullah, and is the most prominent supporter of Tanveer Ahmed.

As well as images of Mumtaz Qadri, Rizvi now uses images of Ahmed to promote his rallies and talks.

Ahmed had cited Qadri as his inspiration for killing his victim, and their supporters often compare the two killers.

In a BBC interview Rizvi said support for Ahmed was not as widespread as that for Qadri - but that Ahmed was held in particularly high esteem for having killed someone accused of blasphemy in a non-Muslim country.


Rizvi, Ahmed and Qadri all come from the Sufi Barelvi sect of Sunni Islam, one normally associated with more spiritual interpretations of the religion.

Tanveer Ahmed, Khadim Rizvi, Labaik Ya Rasool Ullah, BBC News 6 Comments [2/28/2017 9:47:39 PM]
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Quote# 125011

Domestic violence will not become one of the grounds for getting a divorce in Mississippi after a House committee chairman declined to take up the proposal.

Tuesday morning, on a deadline for bills to pass out of committee or die, the House Judiciary B Committee took up several routine bills before Chairman Andy Gipson, R-Braxton, announced that he would not take up Senate Bill 2703, which would have made domestic violence the 13th ground for divorce in Mississippi.

Earlier in the year, two similar House bills died in Gipson’s committee. Gipson, an attorney and Baptist pastor, said he has some fundamental concerns about the bill. Similar measures have also failed in previous years.

“At a time I think we need to be adopting policies that promote marriage and people sticking together, I have some serious concerns about opening the floodgates any more than they already are,” Gipson said. “I think the floodgates are already open and this just tears the dam down.”

Gipson said that inhuman treatment is already a grounds for divorce and that attorneys may need to receive more education about that fact before the Legislature passes additional legislation.

Gipson also declined to consider a bill that would make bona fide separation a grounds for divorce, saying that it would allow a person to leave and then have grounds for divorce against “the innocent person.”

“We need to have policies that strengthen marriage. If a person is abusive, they need to have a change in behavior and change of heart,” Gipson said.

Andy Gipson, Mississippi Today 9 Comments [2/28/2017 9:47:24 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 125010

[This post is about whether or not people on the Ace Spectrum, e.i. Asexuals, Aromantics, Grey-Aces and Demisexuals, are allowed to call themselves "Aspec", a term that discourers claim was stolen from Autistic people.]

(Still waiting for someone to provide a source to back up the claim that “aspec” was ever commonly used to mean autistic.)

though ive never heard the term “aspec” used for the autism spectrum, you should really listen when actually autistic people tell you to stop stealing our phrases

(While listening to autistic people is great in theory, it doesn’t really work. Every autistic person is different and has different views on the term “aspec” being used.)

yeah, but if even one autistic person has a problem with it (hello, i have a problem with it), you should stop, or else risk being seen as a callous hell-demon from hell

(You just said you’ve never heard the term “aspec” used to mean autistic. If aspec is not a word that’s used by the autistic community, then it’s not up to you as an individual to say that no one else can use it.)

i guess not, but the entire autism community is saying to not use it, so maybe dont use it

Thatdirtyallogay, Tumblr 9 Comments [2/28/2017 9:38:57 PM]
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Submitted By: Ivurm

Quote# 125009

Enemy Within

It’s as though the 9th circuit is trying to sabotage President Trumps effort to keep America safe from terrorism. Political Cartoon by A.F. Branco ©2017.

A.F. Branco, Comically Incorrect 10 Comments [2/28/2017 9:35:56 PM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 125008

On his “Pray In Jesus Name” program this week, Religious Right activist Gordon Klingenschmitt said that the image created by artist Shepard Fairey of a Muslim woman wearing an American flag hijab is a “demonic image.”

Klingenschmitt was reacting to a recent protest against President Trump’s attempt to ban immigrants and refugees from several predominantly Muslim nations, which he claimed shows that liberals are willing to partner with “the devil” to oppose Trump.

“This image of this American woman wearing an American flag as a hijab is actually the opposite of what they’re trying to make you see,” Klingenschmitt said. “They’re showing this as if it’s the spirit of God, as if it’s the spirit of liberty because the American flag is a symbol of liberty and yet, I’m telling you, they’re showing a demonic image because the hijab is a symbol of slavery, not liberty.”

“You see the demonic alliance between the anti-Trump left and the anti-woman Islamists and they’re joining hands together,” he continued. “When they say, ‘The enemy of my enemy is my friend,’ what they’re saying is, ‘The devil is my friend.'”

Gordon Klingenschmitt, Right Wing Watch 7 Comments [2/28/2017 9:35:49 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 125007

On Sunday, far-right radio host Alex Jones praised Donald Trump for his “idiot savant regular people skills” and “incredible mega-level charisma,” which is, Jones argues, “why every evil force out there hates Trump, because he’s good.”

Jones claimed that Trump is facing attacks from witches and devil-worshippers because of his closeness with God and his abhorrence of corruption.

The InfoWars network host then made the easily debunked assertion that Hillary Clinton hasn’t uttered the words “God bless America” in “decades,” claiming that Clinton only said it in a video message to the Democratic National Committee last week “because she must now be the counterfeit Christ.”

Alex Jones, Right Wing Watch 13 Comments [2/28/2017 9:35:38 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 125005

In 1945, George Orwell penned “Animal Farm.” One of his characters was Squealer the pig, who arbitrarily redefined words so that they would mean what he wanted. As Orwell explained about Squealer, “he could turn black into white” as part of his attempt to get the other animals to accept his message. It appears that secular progressives are the modern Squealer.

According to them, Donald Trump has now shown us who he really is: a theocrat. Never mind that leading up to the election, we were all fed a steady diet of how irreligious he was. That doesn’t matter anymore. Now he’s a theocrat!

Ironically, they don’t even call the pope a theocrat, and especially not their Shariah supremacist friends seeking to install a global caliphate. The term “theocrat!” is so repulsive that it is reserved solely for Donald Trump and those who support him.

They are so repulsed by traditional religion that they exploded in derision after first lady Melania Trump recited the Lord’s Prayer at a rally in Florida. And then when a public meeting in Louisiana was opened with prayer and the Pledge of Allegiance, the invocation was repeatedly interrupted with vocal outbursts and heckling. All of this was nauseating to them, but then – horror of horrors! – Trump promised to restore constitutional protections for the rights of religious conscience and to level the political playing field to allow people of faith to have the same constitutional free-speech rights secular folks have. That announcement was so terrifying it caused a Washington Post columnist to warn the nation that “Much-dreaded ‘Shariah law,’ or something resembling it, may well be coming to the United States.” Wow.

Let’s see if I get this right: If you want to restore the constitutional free-speech rights of all citizens, including pastors (rights unconstitutionally removed by Sen. Lyndon Baines Johnson in 1954), and if you want to protect the constitutional rights of religious conscience (which, historically speaking, is America’s first-protected, most-important and longest-cherished politically protected right), then you are establishing a “theocracy”?

To quote a famous line from Inigo Montoya in the popular movie “Princess Bride:” “You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.”

I understand that it might be difficult for secular progressives to know the meaning of a word as simple as “theocracy.” Most of them probably went first to public school and then attended an “elite” academic college afterward, and study after study affirms that most of those who attend such institutions no longer receive even a rudimentary knowledge of basic historical facts (and they certainly don’t get much logic or common sense).

So just for clarity, here’s the simple definition of “theocracy”:

“A system of government in which priests rule in the name of God, or a god.” (Oxford Dictionary)

“A form of government [with] the God’s or deity’s laws being interpreted by the ecclesiastical authorities.” “A system of government by priests claiming a divine commission.” (dictionary.com)

“Government ruled by … religious authority.” (American Heritage Dictionary)

Do they really believe that Trump is a priest, or an ecclesiastical authority? How silly! And a theocracy also uses coercion and force to enforce its beliefs and dogmas. Furthermore, it excludes input from the people – no elections. So by definition, a constitutional republic with open elections, such as America has, cannot be a theocracy (but let’s not confuse them with something so simple).

However, there is one other important fact secular progressives ignore: Just as religion can be the basis of a theocracy, according to the U.S. Supreme Court, so, too, can non-religion. Back in 1965, the court held (and reiterated many times since) that all that is required to be a “religion” is “whether a given belief that is sincere and meaningful occupies a place in the life of its possessor parallel to that filled by the orthodox belief in God.” The court has therefore repeatedly ruled that progressives, humanists, Satanists, atheists, evolutionists and other such secularist groups are just as religious as Bible-based groups, and so each of these secularist groups now receives the same religious tax-deductible standing as traditional religious groups.

So, if what Trump believes can represent a theocracy, so, too, can what secular progressives believe. In fact, secular progressives are more likely to be truly theocratic, for they regularly exercise coercion to force dissenters to adopt their beliefs. If you doubt this, just ask the bakers, florists, photographers, clerks, chaplains and others who have tried to avoid participating in the progressives’ religious rites to their great goddess of the Sexual Revolution, whether abortion, homosexuality, transgenderism, or other manifestations of the LGBT agenda. (Significantly, Romans 2:21-23 in the Bible points out that critics are often guilty of the very crimes and shortcomings they accuse others of. That certainly appears to be so in this case.)

So how does the charge of “theocracy!” relate to what Trump and his administration is doing? It doesn’t – unless you are Squealer the pig.

David Barton, WND 14 Comments [2/28/2017 8:57:02 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 125003

I have repeatedly spelled out my objections to evolution and the actual evidence for it. First, the evidence doesn't exist. Second, the historical timelines that purportedly support it are dynamic. Third, evolution is a complete failure as a predictive model. Fourth, it is scientifically and technologically irrelevant; where is the evolutionary engineering. Fifth, theoretical epicycles are increasingly appearing. Sixth, it is a repeated failure as an explanatory model. Seventh, there is a long track record of scientific fraud attached to it.

Vox Day, Vox Popoli 15 Comments [2/28/2017 8:56:44 PM]
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Submitted By: David

Quote# 124999

Let's try taking this from another direction. StratThinker, you clearly accept that genetic mutation and natural selection produces variation within species, regardless of how we're defining the word "species". You've already said as much. So, explain to me:

- Exactly how we're defining "species" here, and where we're drawing the line between a "species" and a "kind".

- How that line prevents the same mechanisms of genetic mutation and natural selection from applying anywhere higher in the hierarchy. We'll set aside the other mechanisms involved in evolution, because you don't seem to be aware of them.

- Your alternative explanation for the apparent genetic and fossil lineages that evolution is used to explain.

1) I draw the line between a species, kind and a sub-species as this:
a) A group of animals are in the same species if and only if most of them can produce fertile offspring with each other. (Thus if group A of animals can produce fertile offspring with other members of group A, and similarly for group B, but group A cannot produce fertile offspring with group B, then group A and B are of different species). Note this a simplest definition and does not consider that you may have group A can reproduce with group B, and group B can reproduce with group C, but A cannot reproduce with C.
b) A species can split into sub-populations which due to variations over time, the members of the sub-populations can no longer produce fertile offspring, thus one species can become multiple sub-species. This is called speciation.
c) What I would call a "Kind" is one of original species that God created which could not reproduce with each other at all, I would also use it to encompasses all of the daughter species of the original species. It is probably impossible to fully know what are the original kinds (please read carefully), but it is possible to put some limits on what they were. If two animals can produce any offspring (even an infertile one) via natural means, then they are of the same kind and their species are of the same kind. For example Lions and Tigers are of the same kind. If species A and species B are of the same kind, and species B and species C are of the same kind, then species A and C are of the same kind even if no member of A can reproduce with members of C at all (i.e. the kind relation is a transitive relation, it is also reflexive and symmetric)

Note the last statement makes the idea of "kind" falsifiable (together with the fact that the Bible says that there are more than one kind of animal). If according it, we can show that all animals are of one kind, then we have disproven the Bible.

2) All animals, bacteria, plants, ect that ever lived are subject to natural selection and mutations. What do you mean by "higher in the hierarchy"? According to the creationist model, the highest in the hierarchy is the kinds.

Are you asking "why couldn't all of these variations given rise to all known species starting at one species, why do these changes 'stop'"? The changes do not stop. Natural selection decreases genetic diversity but increases fitness. Mutations increase diversity but usually decrease fitness. If you have too intense natural selection, then you get genetic uniformity. If you have too little natural selection, then risk a gradual increase in multiple recessive harmful mutations per individual, up to the point where if almost any two random individuals reproduce, their offspring will have a pair recessive harmful mutations. Thus it is not that the changes stop, it is that they are not necessarily sufficient to produce the tree of life.

I am very tired, and I must work tomorrow. So I can't complete this now.

stratthinker, Ars Technica 6 Comments [2/28/2017 8:55:56 PM]
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Submitted By: zyr

Quote# 124996

That's why i hate to be lesbian/gay BECAUSE GOD CREATES ADAM AND EVE NOT EVE AND EVE AND NOT ADAM AND ADAM CAN'T YOU RESPECT WHAT GOD DECIDE YOU????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

Snow Sathyera, youtube 11 Comments [2/28/2017 8:28:00 PM]
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Quote# 124995

It seems every angry full-asian is going to thumb me down for every comment I try to make here, so I'll just make this brief. If you believe that asians socially integrate normally into society like all other races do, then you're delusional. Asians obviously have bizarre quirks about them that are often considered dorky/nerdy. Asians in general have a very hard time understanding empathy. Everything about Asians is trying to them trying to mimic and emulate status without actually understanding anything of emotional value. It's like a robot trying to understand human emotions.

pfcan91, Reddit 4 Comments [2/28/2017 8:27:56 PM]
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Quote# 124994

This is one aspect where the dork/nerd stereotype about asians is correct. Asians don't know how to interact with normal people for the most part. Asians always try to artificially conform, but they can never do it quite right, because their very low levels of social intelligence limits them. Hapas have higher emotional and social intelligence relative to full-Asians, so they know what Full-Asians are like, but at the same time, they know that their Asian genes specifically restrict them from being normal. It's a state of cognitive dissonance.

pfcan91, Reddit 4 Comments [2/28/2017 7:30:46 PM]
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Quote# 124993

I've come to the conclusion that they're by far the worst people on earth by a long shot. Just the absolute stupidest, most self-hating, valueless, godless, mentally ill pieces of shit ever.

Myself included. I'm half a chink, I have all of this chink insanity running through my veins.

EurasianTiger, Reddit 5 Comments [2/28/2017 7:30:37 PM]
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Quote# 124992

Sorry to break it to you sweatheart, but consensual misogyny is still misogyny. Consent doesn’t negate abuse, either, sweaty.

#kink critical #anti-bdsm

nofuckinwaycupid, Tumblr 17 Comments [2/28/2017 7:30:31 PM]
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Submitted By: Thanos6

Quote# 124990

Can you please stop the harmful rhetoric that somehow Haitians deserve abject poverty because of voodoo? Not every poor Haitian practices voodoo and not every middle class/rich Haitian does not. Dominicans practice vudú, Haitian voodoo, and santería as well, but no one uses this an explanation for poverty in the country (as they should not.)

I did not say every Haitian/Dominican practices voodoo. The Bible identifies the tribe of Levi/Simeon in the last days, and those tribes are the modern day Haitians and Dominicans. I’m also not magnifying one thing that the Haitians or Dominicans are doing, I’m edifying what the Bible is saying, and no I won’t stop spreading the message to wake up my brothers and sisters. The reason we (12 tribes of Israel) are oppressed and going through these things are because we aren’t following the laws and commandments of our god, the most high Ahayah (I AM).

Deuteronomy 28:15
“But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:”

Speaking to the Israelites ^

j-ggy, Tumblr 6 Comments [2/28/2017 7:30:18 PM]
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Submitted By: Thanos6

Quote# 124989

The worldwide international corporation known as Hillsong Church has an excellent business model. In 2013, Hillsong Australia alone had nearly 86 million in total revenue, with nearly 39 million in total assets and over 19 million in net assets. Bottom line, Hillsong is banking.

So why is this company so successful financially? Because they deliver a product that their customers want. They produce ear-tickling music that allows fence sitters to pretend to be Christian while not quite giving up their love of the world. They serve drugs so powerful that you can alter your state of mind without taking a single dose of physical substance. And they deliver motivational speeches designed to have people from all walks of life leave feeling like the world revolves around them. In other words, you can live as you please, do as you please, and come to our church on Sundays, and we’ll make sure you’re “personally included and accepted in our community.” [source]

In the business world, it’s well known that in order to keep your business running successfully, you must continue to deliver a product that your customers want. And when your customer base is the world, you must seek to please the world.

Screenshot from 2015-10-19 13:44:58This is exactly why Josh Canfield and Reed Kelly, the two sodomites from the television series, Survivor, who are active, participating members of Hillsong Church, can continue to sit in the congregation week after week without being made to feel uncomfortable in their sin. They can do as they please, and Hillsong can pretend to preach the Gospel so they can call themselves a church while refraining from offending any of their customers.

Now this may be a good practice in the business world, but this methodology disqualifies Hillsong from being a biblical church. A biblical church does not exist to serve and please its customers–a biblical church does not have customers. A biblical church consists of born again believers (Eph 1:22-23) and seeks to shepherd the flock by proclaiming the truth at all costs (Acts 20:28). Yet Brian Houston has stated, “I think with the church, the message is sacred, but the methods have to change for the church to stay relevant”–relevant to its customers.


So how can this organization that claims to be a church baptize an unrepentant sinner, make them an active and participating member of their congregation, and lead them to believe that they are saved, according to their own statement of faith?


You see, Hillsong is not a church, it’s a business, and they are in this for the money, and they’re good at it. This has already been shown. But the one thing they fear most is losing a large portion of their customers. And what would happen if Carl Lentz or Brian Houston were to tell these two sodomites that they couldn’t be baptized, and couldn’t be members of the church because they are living in unrepentant sin? Exactly! They would lose customers. Brian Houston put out a list of 30 Rules for Hillsong Australia Preaching and Teaching Team. Some of the disturbing rules put in place by Houston are “leaving people feeling better about themselves than when they came in, and having a message that easily transitions into an altar-call.”


This is exactly like I stated before. This is Hillsong pretending to proclaim the Word of God so that they can call themselves a church while at the same time delivering a product that their worldly customer base desires–without offending anyone. This is what is described in James 1:7-8 as a “double-minded man, unstable in all his ways,” and he” ought not to expect that he should receive anything from the Lord.” Brian Houston, Carl Lentz, and all of the leaders of this organization are double-minded man-pleasers who are unfit for the ministry of Jesus Christ. They fear the gay mafia more than they fear God and have caved to them on all levels. They are so afraid that they will lose customers that they would rather tell two hell-bound unrepentant sodomites that they are welcome and accepted into their church and lead them to believe that they are saved, than to proclaim the truth to them, that they are lost, in need of a savior, and must repent of their sin and turn to Christ, lest their “portion be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.” (Revelation 21:8)

That’s real homophobia.

Jeff Maples, Puplit & Pen 6 Comments [2/28/2017 7:30:09 PM]
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Quote# 124988

“Mom!” he exclaimed, “Something weird happened here. I wasn’t feeling well, and felt God telling me to skip class and to go down into the basement of the library. So I did. When I got there, I didn’t understand why God had told me to go there. He told me to stay there and wait.”

“Then I watched this girl come in, which surprised me, for hardly anyone ever goes into the basement of this place. And then I seen that she was wearing the clothing of a muslim. She had her prayer mat with her, which she placed down on the floor and then kneeled down on.”

“As soon as she started speaking, great hoards of demons rushed in from all directions towards her. I felt very dizzy, and could feel their heat. They were huge, and were just like that other time in the classroom, where I seen that muslim demon backing up the teacher. However, this time, they had other spirits with them as well. Some were animals, but mostly looked like very large giant fighting men. Violence was all around them. There were black flames encircling them, and terror rushed through the building. Oh mom! I can really understand why some of their followers become willing to martyr themselves! The demons of terror are so very strong in this religion! I had to fight to just stay there and to not turn and run away! But the Lord wanted me to stay there, so I stayed there.”

“When the demons seen me, they started attacking me. The angels around me were really angry, and trying to defend me from them. I pulled out my cell phone, brought up the bible scripture app, and started reciting my favorite scriptures, like psalm 91 and Jeremiah 29:11. This calmed the angels a bit, and seemed to give them increased strength to continue the fight.”

“I could hear her praying to her god. She asked that her family be blessed, and for some other things I could not quite hear. Then I heard the demons say “Yes! We can do that for her!”. Then I heard the woman begin to pray again, though this time I could not make out what she was saying. But this is when the Lord told me to say psalm 91 out loud under my breath. I realized then, that while I prayed, whatever she asked for, she would receive the opposite instead. I sensed her asking for something bad to succeed, but knew that because of my quoting the scriptures, it would fail.”

“Oh mom, I felt so uncomfortable there! You know how it is when I am around roman catholics; I feel irritated. And when I am around saatanists or witches, I feel unbalanced and uneasy. Well around muslims, I felt sheer undiluted terror! I did not want to be there at all! I was afraid that the Lord would keep me there the whole time, but after a while, he told me it was O.K. to go.”

“Frustratingly, the only way out was by her. But there was an angel, one with no wings and somewhat smaller in size, that led me out. Another angel, much larger and with a wide wingspan, had his back towards me, enveloping me in his wings, while facing his shield and sword outwards towards the enemy so he could do battle if they attacked. Together, we made it out safely.”

“Oh mom,” he said, “I had no idea that I would run into something like this on campus! I have seen other muslims before, I even have some in my classes, but they didn’t have these kinds of demons on them! Though,” he said as an afterthought, “They didn’t seem like they were really into their religion either. One guy I spoke to, said he is a muslim only because his family forces him to be one. He himself wasn’t that into it. So maybe that’s why I didn’t sense too many demons on him.” She paused, thinking further. “I think it was the act of worship, that really brought out the demons.”

“You know mom,” he said to me, “sometimes it feels like there is a big battle going on over this campus. The hindus and their gods, the muslims and their god, the gays – yes I know they are not a religion, but they still have their own set of demons on them-, the buddhists, the athiests, they are all vying to gain ultimate control over the campus. They are all trying to gain power over it, so it can be their own little principality.”

I asked him if the demons ever unite with each other, to be able to gain more ground.

“No,” he answered. “Only a few times when they want to fight off the Christians. But for the most part, they are each out for themselves.”

This was a surprise to me. I had thought that satan would command his troops to work more together, to take over the land. I guess he didn’t feel it was needed.

Weeks later, we heard of a murderous rampage At Ohio State University by a muslim that was stopped. My son sensed that this is what the woman’s prayers had been used by the demons for. But Psalm 91, God’s Word, stopped it from succeeding. The only deaths from that attack, was the attacker himself. Reports described the man as behaving oddly while the attack was taking place. I have no doubt that at that moment, he was posessed by demons and not in control of himself.

Dreams of Dunamis, Dreams of Dunamis 15 Comments [2/28/2017 7:29:39 PM]
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I think that the visitors have been recording our communications for quite some time now and know how to speak to us. Most reports of human-alien encounters suggest that they have no problem speaking to us in our native language or projecting thoughts into our minds which we can respond to in the same way. It seems that in a typical classic abduction case the worker bee aliens (usually grays) do not speak or communicate but the leaders (often Nordics or otherwise non-Earthly humans) can speak just fine.

Rick Hunter, Alien Hub 11 Comments [2/28/2017 7:29:02 PM]
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When asked by the religious hypocrites if the woman caught in the act of adultery should be stoned as Moses commanded, our Lord lovingly said, John 8:7, “So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.” Thus, we learn that it is never Biblical to condemn anyone for their sins, because we are just as guilty of sin in the sight of a holy God (Romans 2:1).

Yet, it is still Biblical that all sin brings death (Romans 6:23), and certain sins are listed as crimes in the Holy Bible, which are deserving of capital punishment, which a godly government would enforce. Such crimes include murder, bestiality, adultery, homosexuality, witchcraft, idolatry and incest. When the United States of America was founded, homosexuality was thought worthy of capital punishment. Thus, it is not being unChristlike to uphold the Biblical truth that homosexuals should be executed as criminals, just as murders and adulterers. Jesus was not in a position of government authority as a judge, and so as a citizen He showed compassion for His fellow mankind. If Jesus were physically alive on earth today, He would never accept the position of a judge in America, because He would have to enforce ungodly laws that permit murder by abortion, permit same-sex perversion, permit wicked divorces and hordes of other evils.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 13 Comments [2/28/2017 7:28:55 PM]
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Croatia’s LGBT Community Spooked by Nightclub Attack

A recent attack on an LGBT club night in Zagreb rekindled fears of persecution and raised concerns that Croatia has not made as much progress on gay rights as some had hoped.

"It was about 3.30am and I was almost ready to go home. I was standing with my friends in the centre of the dancefloor when something exploded only two feet from us and smoke hit us in the face," Hana Grgic, one of the victims of the attack on the LGBT night at the Super Super club in Zagreb earlier this month, told BIRN.

"In that moment of panic, none of us knew what it was. I instantly started choking and running to the bathroom. I don't know why I decided to go to the toilet, but I probably realised that this was simply the fastest way to get away from the smoke," Grgic recalled.
"I couldn't breathe. Smoke filled my mouth, nose, sinuses and lungs. My face was burning and I thought that this was actually a bomb. I thought this is the end, this is how I will die," she said.

It has been 15 years since the first Gay Pride parade in the centre of Zagreb, which was the target of homophobic violence and tear gas. Since then, Croatian society has evolved, minority rights have expanded, and there is legal recognition of same-sex unions.
Although many LGBT people still face insults and discrimination every now and then, they aren’t targeted for outright attack. Or at least they didn't until tear gas was set off in the club during the LGBT party at the Super Super club in the early hours of February 12.

"In the toilet, some people said ‘tear gas’, and after that, it was easier because I realised we wouldn't die after all. I touched my face and realized it was not burned although it continued to hurt," Grgic recalled.

“There was panic in the club. People were screaming ‘my eyes, I can't breathe'. In front of a small window, there were 15 people trying to breathe fresh air. I remember that the music continued to play and I wondered why it was still playing while we were dying here. Significantly, it was playing Shakira and her song ‘La Tortura’," she added.

The tear gas attack prompted LGBT rights group Zagreb Pride to organise a protest entitled ‘Love Is and Remains Stronger than Hate' the following day, which attracted more than 1,000 people.

The government strongly condemned the attack and promised a rapid investigation.
“The Croatian government will resolutely oppose any form of violence and hate speech, racial, religious and gender discrimination in the fight for equality, human dignity and safety of all our citizens,” it said.

Unknown attacker, BalkanInsight 7 Comments [2/28/2017 7:28:43 PM]
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Am I a yandere?

I tried to kill strangers at school with a machete. (got caught because they ran away) I'm Bipolar I (Manic), so I'm not psychotic. I'm too emotional anyway. PS i did go to jail for it. i was trying to get on the news so my 5 year long old crush would see me dead for getting shot down by police. Original plan was to kill him before he got his HS diploma so he can stay in Highschool forever. but I couldn't help wanting to kill after I failed to get to him on his graduation ceremony. What kept me from doing it was security and nerves. Since there is no evidence to support these happened, I will confess my other attempts of murder: I bought a cleaver and hid it in a gym bag full of a disguise: a wig, gloves, androgynous baggy shorts and shirt and brought it to school. The knife was so sharp i pricked my finger on it while reaching for my phone. I wanted to kill someone in the library womens restroom which were almost soundproof. almost. i dressed up and waited 30 minutes for someone to come in but only a pair came in and i was shaking too bad, my heart was racing, and i felt my bowel areas feel warm and erotic at the same time. I felt like I was on fire. My nose started to bleed and i decided to cancel because its as if GOD was saying "you wont get away with this". the knife already had my DNA/blood on it from the finger pricking so i disposed of the knife in someones truck while my friends werent looking. Every time I see a knife, an intrusive thought of stabbing comes to mind. My parents hide all the scissors knives an tools in their room because of it. (Court or Hospital orders) It used to be towards anything that can be used as a weapon, but I've become more stable now that my anti-psychotic medication was raised. The most important is Zoloft for my Obsessive Compulsive stalking behavior towards that lil bitch. I don't like him anymore but it's become habit to know what he's been doing. I have a small sense of paranoia that someones always after me, so I always look for a weapon. Maybe the cops, maybe him because he hates me. PS but its always nice to put a term/definition to something you know? Just like my bad stalking habit. its called Limerence if you have a one sided crush for over 3 years. I still have dreams of him so it might be the 6th year

Annaalias, /r/yandere 12 Comments [2/28/2017 7:27:42 PM]
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For a number of years a woman I know, I’ll call her Rachel, has wrestled with giving her life to Christ. She admits she really wants to, but how can she when she’d have to serve a God who allows murderers into heaven and sends “good people” to hell? It would be awkward to have to explain to her husband, family and friends that they’re bound for hell if they reject Christ. In other words, Rachel won’t play by God’s rules because His rules make her uncomfortable. In her way of thinking the God of the Bible is too punitive for her sensibilities. And besides, what kind of God would allow a serial murderer into heaven who professed a belief in Christ only minutes before going to the gas chamber while at the same time condemn “good people” to hell for their unbelief?

Liberals like Rachel require a more palatable religion, one that’s all-inclusive and, of course, fair. They desire a warm fuzzy God. The liberal’s ideal God is a sort of jolly ol’ St. Nick figure. The liberal’s jolly ol’ god has a Naughty and Nice list but his heart is so big that he often overlooks naughty children’s indiscretions (even the ones who are unrepentant) and delivers the goods to them anyway. He’d be unloving if he didn’t bend a little.

Rachel has yet to place her faith in Christ because it’s unthinkable that God would send “good people” to hell. Her major stumbling block is that she’s acquainted with a number of “good people” who aren’t Christians — and are a whole lot nicer than some Christians she knows.

Rachel contends that a just God wouldn’t send nice folks to hell for all eternity simply because they reject Jesus Christ.


People like like Rachel sincerely believe they could do a far better job of running the universe than the One who created it. Talk about chutzpah!

No human being has the wisdom to determine if a person is fundamentally good or evil for the simple reason that no one knows for certain what’s in a person’s heart! No one can ever truly know a person’s motives.

For those who hold to a relativistic worldview, good and evil, ethics and morality are simply cultural inventions and cannot be objectively defined. Liberals perceive the Bible as a book of myths and fables, thus it mustn’t be taken seriously. Those who do take the Bible seriously are considered “unenlighted” – a bunch of addlepated dunderheads.

Unbelievers carp that the Bible should not be the standard by which we judge good and bad. So my question is, if not the Bible, then what standard do we use to determine ethics and morality? And how should right and wrong be determined? By consensus opinion?

Another one of Rachel’s grievances against Christianity is that many so-called Christians behave the same as unbelievers. In other words, the lives of Christians she comes in contact with are inconsistent with what they profess to believe in. They claim Jesus Christ as their personal Savior, but they lie, cheat, steal, binge drink, sleep around, view pornography, plus they’re lazy. In other words, they act like heathens.


In order to make my point, I created three typical Christians.

Michelle professes faith in Christ. She attends church every Sunday, sings in the praise band, mans the coffer bar, and attends an occasional Bible study. She rarely shares Christ with anyone, unless she’s forced into it, whereby she quickly spouts the condensed version of the gospel to avoid making the person feel uncomfortable. Her excuse is that evangelism is not her spiritual gift. Michelle believes God has gifted her with the ability to sing. Her voice rivals Judy Garland’s so she really belts out a song in church. But when it comes to sharing her faith she’s as timid as a mouse. She feels that as long as she’s in a committed relationship, having sexual relations is not sinful. Nor is aborting a child. Michelle became pregnant and had an abortion so as not to bring an unwanted child into the world. She also swears like a sailor and dresses like a Hollywood pop-tart.

Jeff accepted Christ at a Billy Graham Crusade when he was a teen. Ever since then he has tried to be a good person and lead a moral life. Unless his kids have a sports event, the family is in church most Sundays. He and his wife participate in a small group that meets in their home for Bible study and prayer. Jeff is generous with his time, talent and treasure. He tithes 10 percent of his income and is always there to lend a hand. One thing Jeff enjoys is getting together with the guys for Monday night football at a local sports bar. He limits his beer intake to two schooners because any more than that could impair his driving. Jeff believes he has the spiritual gift of evangelism and often brags about sharing his faith with dudes he meets at sports events or bars. When Jeff does his income tax he uses “creative accounting practices.” On occasion he views pornography on the Internet and thinks it’s no big deal. Unbeknownst to his wife he regularly emails a woman he met in a chat room.

Michelle and Jeff profess Christ. They both consider themselves good people and for the most part they try to live godly lives – but they’re quick to admit they’re not perfect! They reject the “fundamentalist fringe” of Christianity and the “fundies” constant harping on God’s holiness. God knows we all have our faults, so why does a pastor need to belabor the point? Michelle and Jeff do the best they can, and at least their hearts are in the right place. In the long run going to heaven is what really counts anyway, and since they accepted Christ (on their terms), they’re there! They may get through the pearly gates by the skin of their teeth, but at least they’ll be in!

Michelle and Jeff typify a lot of church-goers. All they need is enough of God to feel comfortable. Neither one of them want the fire and brimstone God the “fundies” preach about. That God is too harsh, too judgmental – way too scary! That God can be mean!


Returning to Rachel, it hasn’t been lost on her that most professing Christians she knows share her liberal worldview. And they behave like heathens! This means (a) they’re unaware of God’s rules; (b) they’re aware of what the rules are but lack the will to conform. A religion that breeds hypocrites turns Rachel off. For that reason she has chosen to concoct a user-friendly religion with an open-minded god that has very few rules, a god that loves and accepts everyone. Before I move on, it’s important to point out that Christians who have no desire to live their lives in accordance with what the Bible teaches could very well be false converts.

Rachel’s generic god does not require an atoning sacrifice for our sins. I mean, please. The atonement thing is so yesterday! “Self” has replaced the Savior of mankind. In other words, “I” will go to heaven, but “I” will make it on “my” own, without anyone’s help, because “I” deserve it. So move over Jesus!

Generic god is very cool. In fact, he/she is so cool that there’s no penalty for sin! Man is judged solely on his good deeds….or whatever. Rachel assumes her performance on Earth will pass muster and that generic god will welcome her into his/her kingdom when the time comes. But what happens if Rachel’s performance doesn’t pass muster? Wishy-washy Generic God can always be persuaded to change his/her mind.

Rachel is well aware that the God of the Bible offers no hope for those who reject His Son:

Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness’ (Matthew 7:23).

What did Jesus mean by, “the will of my Father?” God’s will is that we repent of our sins and put our faith in Christ. Performing miraculous signs and wonders, doing good deeds, and being a “good person” does not cut it with God. Here’s the reason:

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life (John 3:16).

I’ll close this with one last comment about Michelle, one of the women mentioned above. If you recall, Michelle claims she doesn’t have the gift of evangelism, so she’s off the hook when it comes to sharing the gospel. Really?

Not according to Paul:

I am under obligation both to Greeks and to barbarians, both to the wise and to the foolish. So I am eager to preach the gospel to you also who are in Rome. For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith for faith, as it is written, “The righteous shall live by faith” (Romans 1:14-17).

Marsha West, Berean Research.org 2 Comments [2/28/2017 7:26:49 PM]
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