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Quote# 38511

Should two Christians divorce? I honestly do not think so. Can you pray that God will teach you to love your husband? Yes you can. Don't think I don't understand your pain. My husband was unsaved for 15 years of our marriage and I tried to divorce him and God blocked it. I begin to pray that God would teach me to love my husband. God did. I had to love my husband before God saved him. This does not mean I don't feel for your pain. I know that your path is not easy but God can and is willing to be with you as you walk it.
Don't give up on your marriage. One thing you have to do is stop trying to change your husband and start praying that God will show you what needs changing in your own life. Because your husband is a Christian, maybe he will be willing to go to marriage counseling, but even if he doesn't, you should seek guidance from a Christian counselor.

Betty, RaptureReady 1 Comments [4/30/2008 11:41:41 PM]
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Quote# 38515

Concerning GTA4

This game is a sesspool of sin. It and all its predecessors should be burnt, which is what will happen in hell to all that play it! I hope for your sakes the Lord shows mercy on your misguided souls, i'm sure he will if you drop your joysticks and beg for forgiveness you sinners! I will pray for you, i beg you to do the same

Sinterceptor, Youtube 25 Comments [4/30/2008 10:41:13 PM]
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Submitted By: Draconiz

Quote# 38558

[previous poster compares Bible quotations to made-up quotations about Zeus]

You Athiests can't even use good logic. An analogy is only good if its real. Zeus is NOT REAL.

ISAIAH 62:11, Pharyngula 6 Comments [4/30/2008 10:40:29 PM]
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Submitted By: Syckls

Quote# 38565

According to the Bible, homosexuality is worse than pedophilia (as long as I marry the kid), which is no sin... If I just rape the kid, it's mere fornication, as is gay sex...

Is the common sense we use to declare marrying a twelve year old to be a sin, a sin in itself?

awediot, CARM 23 Comments [4/30/2008 10:24:37 PM]
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Submitted By: Scion

Quote# 38567

Evolutionists claim creationism is not science because it is based on revelation. But if Genesis 1:1 is revelation, then there is a God and He did create all things. On the other hand, atheists say there is no God. Therefore, Genesis 1:1 is a conclusion based on human observation and is a legitimate scientific theory. Genesis 1:1 is scientific or it really is revelation. Either way evolution loses on both accounts

won4christ, Godtube 11 Comments [4/30/2008 10:24:06 PM]
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Quote# 38502

Originally Posted by lcolem:
I have always liked President Bush's sense of humor

I love him as a President. I am sure history will treat him well. He was handed some of the hardest 8 years I can imagine. WWII is about the only parallel I can see, in terms of trouble, since the Civil War.

The hatred of this man is just odd. Good for him cracking on all the other would be's. I can only imagine where we would be had one of the dems, now running, been in the hot seat for W's term

OnceWasLost, RaptureReady 13 Comments [4/30/2008 10:17:54 PM]
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Quote# 38508

if Scripture told us that we're going to go through it, i'd have a bomb shelter started in my back yard, i'd be stocking up reserves like mad, collecting Bibles, tracts...etc.

Basically i would like to think i'd be planning properly for a long, hard, petrefying 7 years.

Thankfully, though... God's way of doing things is to take us up to be with Him, He always does the right thing, and i'm grateful He's assured us that the right thing is for us to not be here when it all goes down.

icebear, RaptureReady 2 Comments [4/30/2008 10:17:24 PM]
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Quote# 38488

I called up a high school on the southwest side of Chicago that is honoring the day by allowing gay students to remain silent during classes, even to the point of getting out of class assignment if they wish. When I approached the school to talk to a school administrator, I asked the question that all students and parents should ask the school before permitting this day, “Has your school had any public reports of physical abuse or bullying from any proclaimed homosexual student this year?” The school administrator said no but they were still going to allow Day of Silence.

Schools should not observe a day regarding abuses that never happened. The idea of “tolerance” is so highly valued in society today that I doubt many schools have had reports of problems with students regarding homosexuality. The schools are being used to promote an agenda that does not even exist in the schools. As parents, we are allowed to know what goes on in our schools. Our schools are satellite homes for our kids. We have to make sure that our kids are not being used to promote a homosexual organization outside the school.

The Christian philosophy is still the best. Christians are supposed to embody the love of Christ and follow the law of the Ten Commandments. Christ came not to abolish the law but to fulfill the law. A person can choose risky, unhealthy homosexual behavior if they want to, but that doesn’t mean our public schools should be allowed to promote it to our children.

Colleen Nolan, Concerned Women For America 17 Comments [4/30/2008 10:17:03 PM]
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Submitted By: Sayna

Quote# 38581

When we just saw that man, I think it was Mr. [PZ] Myers, talking about how great scientists were, I was thinking to myself the last time any of my relatives saw scientists telling them what to do they were telling them to go to the showers to get gassed.

Ben Stein, FriendlyAtheist 20 Comments [4/30/2008 10:13:34 PM]
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Quote# 38530

We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Ostracise Atheist (so they can live unhappily with each other and find something else to whine about).

David Gibbons, 10 Downing Street Petitions 6 Comments [4/30/2008 10:12:00 PM]
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Submitted By: Doctor Fishcake

Quote# 38541

Jesus WASN'T Italian or French or British or Thai or a Metrosexual, NO He was American. THAT'S WHY AMERICA IS UNDER GOD!!!

One more from True Christian, True Christian 73 Comments [4/30/2008 10:11:51 PM]
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Submitted By: logicprevails

Quote# 38499

It seems there are quite a few board members who are threatened by Christianity. Witness the reaction my suggestion that we ban the use of Jesus' name in vain, for example.

My question is: would you be so virulently against Christian ideology if you didn't live in a place that's predominantly Protestant?

In other words, is this just an outgrowth of your fight against the establishment, ie. parents, teachers, cops?

Or is there something special about Christian belief that angers you more than, say, Islam or Buddhism?

lahimatoa, Homestar Runner Wiki Forum 14 Comments [4/30/2008 10:09:53 PM]
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Submitted By: DarkfireTaimatsu

Quote# 38492

Man has been genetically trace to a single woman, arbitarily called "Eve" by scientist.
Every major developmental phase of evolution was described in writing 3000 years ago, universe creation, "big bang" included.
Darwin himself nods upward multiple times in the closing of his book,(he must have been asking forgiveness).
I am 50 years old, learned as many have learned, heard that "science" should be taught, not "God."
The more I learn of science, the more I believe that they are proving that God exist!
It was once said by someone notable, the existance of God interfers with my self-gratification. Not a direct quote by close enough.
The majority of "sci-fi" evolution things I see on television have been refuted, decages ago, typically from the "source" on his or her death bed as be false to aquire financial gain.
We all turn to "God" when the lights grow dim, and all of you will too.

Not everyones solution, Topix 13 Comments [4/30/2008 10:09:32 PM]
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Submitted By: Fek'lhr

Quote# 38522

[from the "Stop Masturbation!" course:]

Please "check" all the points that apply to YOU:

I want to know the real effect on my health of frequent masturbation. Is it "ok" or does it really destroy my health, as I feel it does. I want to find a scientific answer to this, and if it affects my health negatively I want to know how to overcome it.

I am masturbating and I feel inside my self that it is wrong , however I can't stop doing it. After I masturbate I feel guilty I want to overcome this habit.

I have been masturbating for many years now and I want to get rid of this habit. I tried many times to stop it, but always, after a few days, I come back to watch pornographic content on the Internet and in movies. I have a sincere desire to stop it.

I masturbate often while watching pornographic sites on the net. I spend much valuable time which prevents me from doing other important activities. I feel that it is time to overcome the habit of masturbation.

I want to know if it is a "good" or "bad" thing to masturbate. I want to know with a scientific rather than a dogmatic explanation.

After masturbation I feel exhausted , like I have lost my strength. I understand that this is not a positive situation, and I want to do something to overcome it.

After I masturbate I become aggressive to my partner and often this leads me to destructive and negative actions. I am the cause of this, since after masturbating I become more anxious and nervous.

I see successful people and want to become like them. I understand that I spend most of my time in masturbation and that they don't and I am willing to take action to overcome this habit once for all.

I want to watch pornographic content on the Internet all the time although I don't masturbate. I know inside myself that this habit is not a positive one because it is taking the time that I could use to do something which is more fulfilling and constructive.

If you checked just one of the boxes above, then our system is ideal for you!

Not only will we show why masturbation is destroying you life in all its aspects, but we will also show you how to overcome it and start living a new life full of strength.

n/a, taketheaction.com 9 Comments [4/30/2008 10:08:31 PM]
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Quote# 38493

I know you are sane and I know you realized you made a mistake in discrediting the 100% reliability of the bible by saying it was full of contradictions.

I will leave this thread now. have a niceday!

uss_biggd, http://www.religiousforums.com 11 Comments [4/30/2008 9:46:50 PM]
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Submitted By: beckysoup61

Quote# 38485

By recently admitting that "HIV is a gay disease," Matt Foreman, outgoing Executive Director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, acknowledged what the medical community has known for decades: the homosexual lifestyle is extremely high-risk and often leads to disease and even death.

In fact, multiple studies have established that homosexual conduct, especially among males, is considerably more hazardous to one's health than a lifetime of chain smoking.

To the consternation of "gay" activist flat-earthers and homosexual AIDS holocaust deniers everywhere, one such study - conducted by pro-"gay" researchers in Canada - was published in the International Journal of Epidemiology (IJE) in 1997.

While the medical consensus is that smoking knocks from two to 10 years off an individual's life expectancy, the IJE study found that homosexual conduct shortens the lifespan of "gays" by an astounding "8 to 20 years" - more than twice that of smoking.

J. Matt Barber, Concerned Women For America 12 Comments [4/30/2008 9:46:47 PM]
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Submitted By: Sayna

Quote# 38507

Rock music also does physical damage to you. Its beat goes against the natural rhythm of your heart when you listen to it. Your heart then gets confused and may stop beating. This can lead to heart attacks or strokes.

Scripture 4 U, Own Blog 58 Comments [4/30/2008 9:46:31 PM]
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Submitted By: Bartlettman

Quote# 38580

(from his interview on Craig Ferguson's show)

STEIN: We want to say that Darwinism doesn't explain the laws of gravity, Darwinism doesn't explain the laws of thermodynamics, Darwinism doesn't explain why some joints are better than some of the other joints [...] We don't want people to be fired if they say that the planets stay in their orbits maybe by something other than Darwinism. And we don't think Darwin, we don't think Darwin explained how the planets stay in their orbits.

FERGUSON: To be fair, I don't think Darwin claimed to know that.

STEIN: That's exactly right! [...] He didn't claim it explained too much, but his followers claim it explains everything, including astronomy, and we say that's very hard to prove.

Ben Stein, YouTube 46 Comments [4/30/2008 9:45:27 PM]
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Quote# 38465

A Clackamas County, Ore., couple are facing second degree manslaughter and criminal mistreatment charges after their 15-month-old daughter died from what the state medical examiner said were easily cured illnesses.


The infant girl, Ava Worthington, died March 2 from bacterial bronchial pneumonia and an infection, both of which could have been cured with common antibiotics, the medical examiner said.

But police say that instead of going to a doctor, 28-year-old Carl Worthington and his wife, Raylene, 25, opted to pray for their daughter.


The Worthingtons are members of the Followers of Christ Church in Oregon City, that has a history of shunning medical care in favor of faith healing.

A decade ago the church received national attention after KATU reported that the state medical examiner believed approximately 20 children whose parents belonged to the church, had died from untreated illnesses that were curable. [...]

Carl and Raylene Worthington, ABC News 7 Comments [4/30/2008 9:45:25 PM]
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Quote# 38527

First of all, my son works in customer service and I hear all the time how it is the customers who are rude, not the staff. So I guess it goes both ways. I work in a place where arrogance knows no bounds. Homosexuality is run amok, and the f-word is literally in every other sentence spoken. Good is called evil and evil is called good. Hard work gains no rewards. If you e-mail pornography and talk about sports all day you are part of the in crowd. If you try to be a Christian example you and God are mocked. Oh yes, I am most definitely very ready to go home. It’s a dangerous, evil world out there and I too find myself staying away as much as possible by only going out when absolutely necessary. A sad thing I know, but I am so weary of it all. I follow world events from the side lines and am patiently waiting for the sound of the trumpet and the call to “Come up here.”

Daniel, RaptureReady 6 Comments [4/30/2008 9:45:09 PM]
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Quote# 38545

Nevertheless, the theory of evolution proves how bizarre, far-fetched and ridiculous one has to be to deny God. Let's forget for a moment the obvious fact that apes can no more breed human descendants than humans can breed zebras as descendants. All anyone has to understand is the simple birds and bees to know why. But for those who don't, let's engage in fantasy and see what had to have happened for this impossible, crazy theory to have taken place;

1) Each ape had to find another creature which with to breed to create offspring that looks more like a human than an ape. The odds of that are incalculable.
2) Then these exact same offspring had to migrate all over the world because according to science fiction writers, homo-sapiens also existed in North America
3) The next step in this impossible chain is that each homo sapiens in North America had to find a mate identical to the mates of other homo-sapiens in Africa to breed descendants who could speak! That make the odds even more incalculable since no two animals and humans look and act alike. So the exact same so-called "mutations" had to have happened in thousands of homosapiens which makes the odds unfathomable as to be impossible.
4) There are no accounts by any ancient cultures of any of these creatures ever existing yet they are supposed to be our ancestors. :o
5) The so-called common ancestor from which these creatures supposedly came is still as imaginary as the minds who invented them. That makes the common ancestor as imaginary as the Flying spaghetti monster.

Heidi, 123 Christian Forums 13 Comments [4/30/2008 9:45:01 PM]
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Submitted By: jmm9683

Quote# 38551

But if it [evolution] IS real, then...
*There's no distinction between man and animals, so there's no right and wrong
*There's no purpose in life, since evolution is undirected
*People have no souls, and so you can't go to an afterlife
*There is no God who could have made things, because evolution says things developed by themselves

Do you see some startling problems with following the trail of ideas?

BlueberryMuffan, deviantART 19 Comments [4/30/2008 9:34:55 PM]
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Quote# 38531

[This guy is trying to drum up support for the Neumanns, who let their 11-year-old daughter die of diabetic ketoacidosis over the course of a month while they avoided taking her to a hospital and instead prayed for her to be healed.]

While it is true that God created the world and all that is in it, including doctors, we must note: Jesus never sent anyone to a doctor or a hospital. Jesus offered healing by one means only! Healing was by faith. Yes, God created doctors but only to give man a choice between man’s ways — the doctor — or His way — faith! When we don’t have faith we need the doctor and it’s obvious that most want-to-be Christians need the doctors because they have no faith in God; their faith is in man. God created good and evil. Witchcraft can heal also. Should Christians also seek witches?

When the mark of the beast comes and you don’t take that chip in your hand and forehead you will not be able to pay for meds or doctors; then you will be deemed negligent and your children will be taken away.

Pastor Bob, HelpTheNeumanns.com 25 Comments [4/30/2008 9:01:44 PM]
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Submitted By: David D.G.

Quote# 38521

KINSHASA, April 22 - Police in Congo have arrested 13 suspected sorcerers accused of using black magic to steal or shrink men's penises after a wave of panic and attempted lynchings triggered by the alleged witchcraft.

Reports of so-called penis snatching are not uncommon in West Africa, where belief in traditional religions and witchcraft remains widespread, and where ritual killings to obtain blood or body parts still occur.

Rumours of penis theft began circulating last week in Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of Congo's sprawling capital of some 8 million inhabitants. They quickly dominated radio call-in shows, with listeners advised to beware of fellow passengers in communal taxis wearing gold rings.

People who believe in witchcraft, Reuters 6 Comments [4/30/2008 9:00:01 PM]
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Submitted By: Dave

Quote# 38512

Cmon, Zeus? He's a myth. The people who believed in those gods KNEW they were myths. That's why they are referred to as mythology. Christianity is not referred to as mythology. Roman and Greek gods are. But, they didn't actually believe those gods existed. They knew it was a myth.

Self-Mutation, Internet Infidels 21 Comments [4/30/2008 8:56:45 PM]
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