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Quote# 125574

The Truth About Women In STEM

Over the weekend, I was treated to some truly hearty laughs when a group of computer programmers posted on GitHub the specifications of a feminist programming language. (It has since been removed and posted to bitbucket.) As a professional software developer and recreational critic of Social Justice Warriors, this article felt tailor-made to my interests. If either of those descriptions applies to you, feel free to check out the link above, it’s worth it.

“I wonder how long it would take an offended “feminist” to overreact to this article?” I thought. Turns out, not so long, as a feminist coder posted her response almost on cue, complete with “trigger warnings”, using the original post as 75% of her article content, the whole nine yards (check it out here).

Naturally, I was reminded about the infamous Adria Richards “Donglegate” incident, which has become somewhat legendary in the tech world, where a female employee of Sendgrid got two men fired because she overheard them making a joke about “dongles” in private at a conference. I couldn’t help but to think of Beavis and Butthead snickering and saying “huh huh, huh huh, she said dongles”. Crude? Maybe. Reason to lose employment? Absolutely not. And yet when “Donglegate” was all said and done, and Adria Richards got fired because sweet justice exists, the feminists and social justice warriors got the last laugh. For weeks, I saw Adria Richards on TV, playing the victim, distorting the story so hard that I was reminded of a famous Simpsons episode I saw on TV.

That was the Adria Richards coverage in a nutshell, and to someone who was not as invested in the story as I was (which is roughly 99% of people) it seems like another chapter in the long continuing narrative of “The evil ‘bro-grammer boys club of STEM fields that hates women and wants to make their life a living hell’”.

This narrative has always pissed me off because I can tell you firsthand that it is not true. In fact, in just about every aspect it has been the opposite. High schools, universities and employers try to fight so hard against the “boys club” stereotype that they end up giving women some rather unfair advantages. How do I know this? I graduated from one of the top science and engineering schools in the country.
College Years

When I was a college freshman in the Computer Science program, I immediately noticed that there were a lot more men than women. No biggie, people do what they like. I didn’t think much of it. It was widely accepted that computer science was one of the tougher majors in our university and students would routinely change majors when they started being overwhelmed by the incredibly demanding course load.

How demanding? During sophomore year my roommate and I pulled so many all-nighters that we inadvertently learned the rules of cricket (the cricket world championships were broadcast from halfway around the world, live, in the middle of the night, and it made for better background TV than infomercials.)

I first realized something was wrong when I got into trouble with the housing department of our school. My crime? Being a nerd hitting on the hottest girl in the dorms next to ours. Apparently, this was labelled as harassing behavior, and the only thing that saved me from being kicked out of on-campus housing was a friend of mine, who was an RA and member of some housing committees, vouching for me and promising everyone there that he would remedy the problem in private. Once again, I didn’t think much of it, we talked it out, and I was actually believing that what I did was wrong. But that’s a story for another time.

Some time later, I saw a student giving a tour to some high school kids, but then I noticed that the high schoolers were all girls, almost all of them wearing matching t-shirts. This was our state’s program to get more girls interested in science and math. Boy interested in science and math? You’re on your own there, buddy. The next year, it was touted as a success—many more girls enrolled in our schools science and math programs than they ever have. Except the numbers were still overwhelmingly male, I think the overall ratio moved by half a percent. I didn’t think much of it then.

As I progressed through my classes, I would see the same faces over and over again. By your senior year you will probably be in at least 1 group project, study group or circle with about 25% of your major by incoming class year. And while there were some brilliant, exceptionally bright and hard-working women, they were outnumbered by women who took the easiest duties in group projects and just coasted. How some of these girls ended up in Junior and Senior Level computer science classes at my school was a miracle. There were numerous instances where you would have to explain basic concepts to them. It blew my mind. And we encouraged them! We either took the harder group project roles because we did not want a bad grade, or we acted as complete supplicating chumps and ended up doing about 80% of these girls homework assignments thinking it would win us favors (it didn’t).

It’s not like the school had a shortage of resources to help them. Quite the opposite. There were several women’s organizations to help ensure the success of these ladies by helping them with tutoring, counseling, etc, for free. But these resources were often ignored in favor of the easy group projects and thirsty men.

There was a computer lab that stayed open all night. There were only 1-2 girls there pulling all-nighters at a time. But lots of dudes. Lots and lots of dudes. Because of the course load, people were dropping out left and right, but I can only recall one instance of a girl I knew dropping out, compared to the dozens of guys I knew.

And then came the job fairs. Because of my school’s prestige and reputation, many prominent companies and organizations recruited from our school. And you can guess what happened. All of the girls that coasted, all of the girls that cheated, “short cut” and gilded their way through college, ALL, without any exception, got job offers at these prestigious companies with those sweet high STEM salaries. I have known several guys that could not find work in their field while grinding hard for up to a year on the same exact prestigious degree. This was demoralizing. But, you know, male privilege.
More Examples.

“But maybe you’re just nitpicking and biased?” OK then, I will give you more examples from outside of my college career.

One of my friend’s girlfriend, on the surface, has a STEM career (computer software to be exact). If you google her name you will find several articles about her, talking about the challenges, hardships, and all the other bla bla bla that women face in computer science. The thing is, I am pretty sure this girl has never written a single line of code. And no, my friend is not dating Adria Richards. Companies are so desperate to employ and tout women, to be seen as that “progressive” company, that many create non-technical positions to fill that role, and then pat themselves on the back for it.

Another example: an ex-girlfriend, a hard science PhD, would routinely complain about the sexism at her job. As a caring and doting boyfriend, of course I took those things seriously, until I realized that the issues were not sexist – they were with her work. When you’re doing research-based academic work that kind of thing tends to happen. You are constantly under scrutiny, your bosses are people that haven’t been outside of academia for any parts of their lives, you get paid shit money, and it’s generally an unfriendly and unwelcoming environment. I realized this when I met more PhDs, male and female, from various fields. All of them had the same story. This girl mistook difficulty for sexism. Getting a PhD is so hard that there is a popular niche comic describing the rigors of professional academia (PhD Comics). Their humor won’t resonate with everyone, but every single PhD I know loves it.

So yes, STEM is indeed easier for women. Everyone wants then to succeed. Everyone needs them to succeed. No matter what the cost.

But you know who I respect the most? The grinders. The girls that work hard, the girls that learn, the girls that try to make a difference in the world on the same playing field as boys. Because, in reality, there is no sexism in science. In fact, there is no “-ism” in science. It’s a meritocracy, with knowledge and achievement as the main focus. And I can respect that.

This is exactly why the “bro” culture will persist. Science can not be held to the same politically correct standards as plain old office work. Because if I’m working with you at 4 am, fueled by pizza, mountain dew and cricket matches on TV, no matter who you are, man or woman, you’re gonna be my bro. Because that’s the only way anything will get done.

Dr Harry Longabaugh, Return of Kings 7 Comments [3/20/2017 1:43:09 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 125572

Game denialism is the act of denying that game works. Feminists, white knights, incels and some White Nationalists are examples of game denialists.

Arguments

A common game denialist argument is that the only reason men who apply game techniques are able to get laid, is that they are doing a lot of approaches and therefore are succeeding at a numbers game.[1]

Kings Wiki, Kings Wiki 6 Comments [3/20/2017 1:42:58 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 125571

The busted dudes test is, according to Roosh, the only quality one needs to look for when deciding where to stay while abroad: "Is it common to see a busted guy with a pretty girl on his arm?" If within my first day in a country one sees pretty girls with busted dudes who aren't decked out in Hugo Boss or gold jewelry, one knows the sexual market is skewed in the man’s favor.[1] According to Roosh, the busted test "Includes everything. A guy with an okay face but 30 pounds overweight wearing jean shorts and white tube socks would be classified as busted."[2]

Roosh V, Kings Wiki 13 Comments [3/20/2017 1:42:53 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 125569

This month, someone made a donation to Planned Parenthood in Republican State Senator Steve Fitzgerald’s name ? and the Kansas lawmaker was not happy about it.

On March 10, Planned Parenthood’s Great Plains clinic tweeted out a photo of a letter Sen. Fitzgerald wrote to the women’s health organization. “It is with great dismay that I received your letter that a donation was made in my ‘honor’ to your heinous organization,” Sen. Fitzgerald wrote.

The state senator went on to liken Planned Parenthood ? an international nonprofit organization that provides healthcare to millions of women and men ? to a Nazi concentration camp.

“This is as bad ? or worse ? as having one’s name associated with Dachau,” Sen. Fitzgerald wrote, referring to the first Nazi concentration camp created in 1933. “Shame on your organization and shame on anyone that would attempt to blacken my name in this manner.”

In an interview with The Kansas City Star on Monday, Sen. Fitzgerald stood by his original comments.

“It was either send them that or ignore it,” Sen. Fitzgerald told The Star. “I figured, I don’t want my name associated as a donation to Planned Parenthood, in my name, to go on un-denounced by me.”

When asked if Sen. Fitzgerald was implying that Planned Parenthood is actually worse than the Nazis, the state senator replied: “Oh, yeah,” adding that the Nazis “ought to be incensed by the comparison.”

Many Twitter users were understandably very upset with Sen. Fitzgerald’s comments.

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Spokesperson for Planned Parenthood Great Plains told The Star that they’ve see an uptick in donations in Sen. Fitzgerald’s name since they tweeted his letter.

“It’s this kind of inflammatory language that adds to the shame and stigma of safe legal abortion,” Lee-Gilmore said. “The state of Kansas has much bigger issues to be dealing with, and this is just an unacceptable attack on women’s right to choose.”

Steve Fitzgerald, Huffington Post 5 Comments [3/20/2017 1:17:10 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 125562



Anonymous, Whisper 13 Comments [3/19/2017 4:53:02 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 125557

Game is the sum tools meant to increase a man's sexual worth,[1] or any technique a man uses to better attract women. It is one of the preeminent topics discussed at Roosh V Forum and Return of Kings. Feminists have branded game as "manipulative", while the men who practice game uphold it as a form of self-improvement and a path to better sexual success. "Gaming" a girl refers to actively using game techniques to attract her. Roissy describes game as "The practice of challenging women."

How Game spreads and evolves

Game spreads and evolves as men share their techniques, experiences, and observations of women with each other. Other men then test and report back on this input, creating a continually evolving consensus. This process accelerated with the Internet, which allows men to share instantly.

Denial

Game denial is a rejection of the techniques with which men are reporting success, in favor of techniques that men are reporting as failures.

Since Game deniers have little if any real support for their positions, they almost always resort to unfounded attacks on the consensus group.

Kings Wiki, Kings Wiki 2 Comments [3/19/2017 4:04:52 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 125541

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VileNord, Men Going Their Own Way 18 Comments [3/19/2017 1:52:45 PM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 125532

Men cannot be raped but we do have our own equivalent, of being cuckolded and tricked into raising somebody who isn’t our own genes which is worse than any of that including prison rape.

Also as for how beta males’ genes from its because patriarchy protected us from the will of hypergamous alpha-hunting women by suppressing their interests, and putting mens’ first. Without patriarchy betas wouldn’t be here.

Women produce nothing of value in this world, they exploit us men for it and we have nothing to lose but our chains in this society against the gynocentric collective matriarchy, when MGTOW-led unions(Not Marxist, Feminist degenerate ones) start forming one day we are going to have all men strike and stop working. And bring down civilization or society as a whole for revenge of your exploitation of us. Women want men to do all the work anyway and don’t do anything so it will be quite easy.


MGTOWRevolutionary, We Hunted The Mammoth 21 Comments [3/18/2017 10:52:27 PM]
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Quote# 125467

How do Women have the Strength to Settle/ Fuck an Unattractive Guy??

The must REALLY LOVE Money to do so. LOL.

jackville07, /r/incels 7 Comments [3/18/2017 4:06:44 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 125505

Women who support gay rights but refuse to have anal sex are the weakest race.What do you think your gay besties are doing behind closed doors, honey? Holding hands while humming "It's Raining Men?"

Matt Forney, Gab 19 Comments [3/18/2017 1:18:25 PM]
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Quote# 125499

Much as I like to trumpet the importance of a woman's right to choose all things at all times, there's one choice I simply cannot understand: the choice of an otherwise sane and healthy woman not to have children.

If a would-be mother is a singleton of 40 who decides to have a baby without a partner, I might wish she'd thought of it sooner and prepared for it better - but I understand.

If she's half of a lesbian couple who 'borrows' the wherewithal, I might cross my fingers that the child is not teased at school - but I understand. Even if she's a 66-year- old pregnant pensioner, threatening to turn motherhood into a freak show, I might (indeed, I do) think she's monstrously selfish and dangerously wrong - but again, more or less, I understand.

Yet if she says she hasn't a shred of maternal feeling in her, moreover, if she says she would prefer to concentrate on her career and that a child would only get in the way of it, then my head might acknowledge her right to do so. But my heart whispers: 'Lady, you're weird.'

It was welcome news, therefore, to discover this week that I am not alone. Research conducted over six years shows that far from bosses and colleagues always being suspicious of a working mother, the opposite is becoming true: it is the childless woman who is regarded as cold and odd.

As a result, it is these single-track careerists who are increasingly likely to be vilified, refused jobs and denied promotion because many employers believe them to lack what the study calls 'an essential humanity'. And I know exactly what they mean.

In the little hothouse of my own trade as a hack, I play a game with myself. Reading all the other female scribblers, sometimes with grudging admiration and sometimes none at all, I try to guess from their expression of their world view whether or not they are mothers.

I haven't - yet - been wrong. Now, with MPs so much in the headlines, I've extended the game and started to guess about the women among them, too.

As far as I can tell, my score is also pretty high there - even though it's just a feeling. On both sides of the political divide, as with the writers, it's not what MPs say or do, so much as how they go about it.

'Mothers bring something extra'

And if that touch of 'essential humanity' - or its absence - colours such notably tough professions, it's hardly surprising that employers are starting to notice that the same applies across the spectrum of workplaces.

Of course, we need not be silly about it.

Nobody wishes to see a female soldier in combat with a six-week-old infant in one arm and a rifle in the other.

Or a high-flier working 20-hour days while still breast-feeding. Or the mother of a small brood taking on any job of such erratic hours that she cannot promise them when or even if she'll be home.

But most jobs aren't like that - and most children don't stay babies for long.

Besides which, in my experiences both as a colleague and an employer, I have found that mothers almost always bring something extra to the job, to the benefit of all.

It's not the mothers, for a start, who are going to turn up late and hungover after a night on the razz; they'll have been up, dressed and alert for hours, having cooked a family breakfast and delivered their children to school. On time.

It's not the mothers, usually, who run the office bitch-fest.

They're not there to compete for the attentions of the male executives; they're there to get out of the house; they're there because they genuinely enjoy some adult company; and they're there because they have mouths to feed other than their own and shoes to buy for someone else's feet.

Two-thirds of working mothers, a recent survey found, could not provide for the children they love in the manner they would wish if they lost their jobs. So there's incentive for you.

They will, it is true, snatch time off for poorly children and Christmas carol services. And it's true they will insist that, in return for arriving on the dot of 9am, they must also leave on the dot of 5pm.

But rarely have I encountered a mother who did not offer to make up time lost, often in lunch hours. As for leaving on time, put enough mothers together in one workplace and you'll get rid of the ghastly ethos of 'presenteeism', whereby people vie for plaudits based solely on how late - albeit often uselessly - they hang around the office.

The prioritising that may baffle other people is a cinch for a woman who has spent years juggling a household. Negotiating skills? A request for 10 per cent off an overdue invoice is nothing to a woman who has had to broker a deal on Britain's Got Talent versus bedtime.

When it comes to emergencies, if you have run all the way to a clinic with a terrified toddler vomiting down your neck then, trust me, a package delayed in transit is a piece of cake. And if those are the tangibles, the intangibles - the 'essential humanity' - are more important still.

You cannot be a mother without knowing something about selflessness, compassion, generosity, commitment, fierce loyalty and plain hard work. You cannot - surely - be a boss and not value assets such as those in your staff.

Nor is it the boss who pays the price for the extras a mother brings with her; she's the one who pays for that. Enough reams have been written about the long hours of slog it takes to run a home and hold down a job at the same time. Yet still we keep doing it because we want our work, our independence and our money.

But, more than all the things we want, we actually need our children; they complete us as women, they are our light and our love and our legacy.

We feel desperately sorry for those who yearn for children they cannot have; the unwilling barren, if you will. But when we meet a woman who chooses her childlessness in the belief that there is something out there worth more, we smile politely even while - once again - our guts whisper: 'Lady, you're weird.'

So three cheers for the employers who are catching on, the ones who don't want to people their workforces with the cold, the calculating, the sad and the mad. The only question is: what took you so long?

Carol Sarler, Daily Mail 16 Comments [3/18/2017 2:52:31 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 125497

[On a screenshot of a radfem post calling people male supremacists for supporting fathers and mothers having equal parental rights]

This is further evidence that gender and women studies are pseudoscience and their top theories "the patriarchy", "wage gap" and "rape culture" are conspiracy theories. They not only double down but they triple down with their insanity. They should see a couple of wildlife documentaries and draw analogies which easily disproves the above claims (except for the last one).

It's ridiculous that this is taught at universities and has a major presence both in media and politics as if it had any factual merit.

Liberals against SJW's, Facebook 5 Comments [3/18/2017 2:52:11 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 125484

A few murmurs of dissent rose at the 15th All World Dawoodi Bohra Conference in Udaipur as the topic of validity of the practice of female genital mutilation (FGM) or khatna came up on Sunday.

A voice of dissent against the ban came from Gazanfer Okasa, the general secretary of the Bohra Youth Association. “Khatna shouldn’t be linked to FGM,” said Okasa, refering to the Grade 2, 3 and 4 level female genital mutilation practised in African countries, which could involve total removal of the clitoris and the labia minora. “In our community, we cut a little part, unlike in African countries. Though my sister, who is a doctor, and my mother strictly condemn this practice, I am in favour of khatna because I believe it is a part of our Sharia.”

The Bohra community, a sub-sect of Ismaili Shia Islam, remove the prepuce from the genitalia of girls before puberty.

Gazanfer Okasa, 15th All World Dawoodi Bohra Conference 6 Comments [3/18/2017 2:50:08 AM]
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Submitted By: Hu's On First

Quote# 125468

(How do Women have the Strength to Settle/ Fuck an Unattractive Guy??

Easy, they just do not make sex that big of a thing. I mean, for us males, they will act like it is and will support a whole culture around it. They will even cry rivers when someone would just joke about consent. But remember, its just an act. When the "I want new stuff from my fat manlet betabuck" will come, they would not hesitate. That's in economy 101.

freeboota, /r/incels 16 Comments [3/17/2017 6:07:31 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 125460


It has been said to me that I must hate feminism so much because I hate women.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

It is because I actually care about my fellow women that I loathe feminism and speak out against it so often. Feminism is a way for a small number of very evil men to gain control over a large segment of other men. Women are merely useful pawns (but oh, how useful!).

Feminism in no way, shape, or form leads to outcomes that are in women’s best interests. The incredible decline in average happiness of modern women, as documented by the very liberal Wolfers and Stevenson, compared to just a few decades ago is evidence of the misery that feminism has inflicted upon Womankind.

Sunshine Thiry, Sunshine Thiry 12 Comments [3/17/2017 2:48:05 AM]
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Quote# 125458



Same woman, two different men. Ciara's two most recent relationships are a perfect example of how your choice of a mate affects your life. A woman is by nature a help mate so she is capable, many times unconsciously, of taking on the mindset and lifestyle of the man she is with. This is why it is so absolutely vital for a woman to know her worth and make the wisest choice in her mate. You don't date or accept the proposal of the guy who is on the level you are or going places you don't want to go. You accept the proposal from the guy who can lead you to where you want to be. Whether you realize it or not that man is leading you somewhere. Find out where he is going before you get on board. If he was deceptive and made you think he was going somewhere he wasn't, get off the ride and go back home!!!! #Awaken #Arise #ChooseWisely #KnowYourWorth #WaitOnHim

Queen-Wisdom Grant Pamela, Facebook 10 Comments [3/16/2017 8:39:12 PM]
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Submitted By: Ivurm

Quote# 125457

The masculine American male is a dying breed. We have been told for far too long that violence is never the answer. We've been told that it's cruel to kill our own food. We've been conditioned to believe that there is no place in modern society for the man who refuses to shave his chest or wear skinny jeans. As a man...you are a protector. As a man...you are a provider. As a man...you are solely responsible for the safety and well being of your family. How can you be a good husband if you can't defend your wife? How can you be a good father if you can't protect your children? Remember...the eyes of the children are fixed upon you. You serve as an example of what young men should grow up to be...and of what young women should seek out in a partner. So...grow your beard, wear your boots, eat your steak, carry a knife, own a gun, protect your woman, fight for what is right and just. Be strong. Be of good courage. Long live the masculine American male.

Join our private group of masculine men: https://www.facebook.com/groups/liquorgunsbaconandtits/

Liquorgunsbaconandtits, Facebook 30 Comments [3/16/2017 8:39:10 PM]
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Submitted By: Ivurm

Quote# 125454

It's almost like sex is a myth

We've all been living our lives in the hopes of some action, hearing about all of our friends exploits, reading about sexual acts that make the news, lending a shoulder whilst girls tell is about their tragic pump'n'dump by Chad.

But we've never seen it, never felt it, never had any tangible evidence that it even happens.

An existence as an incel is so far away from the typical human existence, I'm placed in utter shock every time i think about it.

tiajlmao, /r/incels 19 Comments [3/16/2017 8:37:43 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 125452

Let’s face it: This generation of Incels is lost

We are in the worst place at the worst time in terms of relationships and sex. 50/60 years ago, the dating market was completely different from now. Sex was only allowed in marriage, people who had it outside of wedlock were shamed and punished. But then the sexual revolution happened. In theory, this should have been a great idea: Casual sex and sex outside of marriage are now accepted. People can enjoy it without any restrictions. But this had one flaw: Women don’t want sex. Sex is a resource for them they use to get what they want. So the demand for sex went higher, since men wanted to enjoy this casual sex but the supply stayed the same. Women were not interested in it, thus creating a power imbalance on the dating market in favour of women. Just like in a relationship, where the partner who cares less about the relationship has the most power.

Now this back 20/30 years this was not this bad since there where still some restrictions like limited options. You had your town/city maybe the neighbourhood town but the number of potential partners was small. Then technology began to make progress, the internet came and with it new forms of dating. Suddenly you just didn’t have a handful of people to choose from but the whole internet. Again, theoretically this should have benefited men and women. More options mean more chances to find the one for you. But now the power imbalance hit with full force. Without limitations, women could demand best men thanks to the power they had on the dating market. Instead to settle and lower their standards like they were forced to do back then, they could be as demanding as they wanted to and still find someone.

Now we are in the strange situation that the standards for men are still rising while the standards for female are dropping. Men get told they should go to the gym, get a good career, be better looking, be richer. On the other side, women get told even the 400 lbs landwhale is beautiful and deserve a fit and tall men. Thanks to the position of power females hold in the market, the chances are good she finds one. This creates a spiral in which the standards for men rise and rise while many men struggle to keep up with it or are left behind. Men are forced to go lower and lower to find relationships and sex making it even easier for women to date up, creating incels in the progress since we don’t have the option to date down.

And this is what I mean when I say we are in the worst place in the worst time. The market is dictated by females, creating even higher standards since nobody challenges their position of power. Men are like hamsters in their wheels trying to run faster to keep up with it, fuelling the female privilege even more. A downward spiral that creates incels, or simply men who can’t keep up with the rising standards.

As a summation, I encourage my fellow incels to stop the self-improvement. You are chasing standards that will get higher day by day, encouraging females to set the limits even higher since they can. Someone who comes here and says you have to improve means that you should bow to the standards female can set because they have the power in the market. Instead of following the demands of females, we should ask: What can we do shift the power in the market to men?

EconomicsofSex, /r/incels 19 Comments [3/16/2017 8:37:36 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 125451

Open letter to the women in my life.

Why don't you like me?

Why don't you talk to me the same way you talk to every other guy? Whenever I've tried to make small talk, you stare away, or don't seem interested, or make an excuse to leave.

I just want to know. I want to know what it is I can do. Or is it something out of my control, like I'm not handsome enough? Not tall enough? Maybe I just give off a weird, uncontrollable vibe.

All of my male friends have girlfriends. I have no one. It makes me feel like a loser.

I just want to know what's wrong with me. What makes me different from my friends.

I remember being 18 and asking the internet how to get a girlfriend. Everybody told me, "you're young. It'll happen eventually."

That was 10 years ago.

Oh well, no sense in wallowing. I'll probably never get an answer as to why you don't like me, but at least this letter was somewhat cathartic.

andiswearrrr, /r/incels 15 Comments [3/16/2017 8:37:34 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 125410

Travelling as an Incel makes ZERO Sense

I have travelled a lot in the past 4 years and let me tell you EVERY single time I step into my destination my heart starts fluttering at all the couples around whilst Im alone with no one.

Its difficult to enjoy a vacation when you realise how unwanted u are and how everyone else around u has someone. Well not everyone, I should say almost EVERY woman around u has at least a decent looking guy. And I have noticed a lot of women with men much better looking and taller than they are.

A few lonely guys u notice are really short or below average in looks.

Being an incel kills ur joy in travelling. If I was a single Chad, I wud be travelling all the time...........

jackville07, /r/incels 23 Comments [3/15/2017 7:28:50 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 125422

It’s an open question whether our Masturbators of the Universe intentionally or accidentally unleashed forces (abortion, condoms, the Pill, penicillin, poz, female economic self-sufficiency aka the Six Sirens of the Sexual Apocalypse) that would sever at every level sex from marriage and children, and thus lead to the low fertility of the West and the poisoning of relationships that naturally percolates when women are surrounded by weak, deferential men and men are left with the prospect of marrying road-worn sluts who secretly still pine for the dazzling cads of their nightclub bathroom passion play memories, but it’s indisputable that the oligarchs and Bezosians and open border 1%ers prefer a deracinated, dehumanized world bazaar with women freed from the constraints of early marriage and motherhood to consume, capitulate, and clog the globohomo capitalist self-negate machine as happy little office cogs.

In my opinion, the current situation is unsustainable. Something’s gotta give. In a near-future post, I will explain how our postmodern sexual market dovetails with evidence that the West is careening toward idiocracy.

CH, Chateau Heartiste 25 Comments [3/15/2017 3:36:57 PM]
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Quote# 125420

How can you not hate women?

Hate.

I hate them.

Their stupid fucking smiles. Women smile more because they live life on easy mode. They have no reason to be unhappy.

All they have to do is walk into a room and all the attention is on them. People will cater to their every whim just because they were born with a vagina.

Meanwhile, I'm bullied all throughout school. I'm treated like scum. Insulted by everyone. The only times people have called me attractive were when they were saying it sarcastically. That hurts more than just being called ugly.

They contribute nothing to conversation. They think they can say any useless thing, and the sad reality is they can, because idiot men will eat it up. "Oh my god, you're right. The sky is blue! I've never looked at it like that before."

They don't have to try. They don't have to do anything. And people will love them.

You can call me vocel, but if you live 25+ years without getting attention from women, and you're still being nice to them, then you're absolutely pathetic. These creatures want nothing to do with you, and yet you're still nice and all smiles. Do you have any self worth at all?

There are times when I'm nice to women. At restaurants, for example. Always gotta be nice to those who prepare your food.

But seriously, there are legitimate exceptions to the women I hate. Fat chicks are not one of them. The're just like the rest, if not worse due to overcompensation. However, disfigured women (growths on the face, for example) aren't like the rest. Generally, anyway. It's mostly a case by case basis when it comes to disfigurements. I will also not be mean to women with serious medical issues. I'm not going to be mean to cancer patients. I'm not a monster.

It's ironic though. If I ever got cancer, I'm sure they'd still be mean to me.

andiswearrrr, /r/incels 16 Comments [3/15/2017 12:35:12 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 125411

Missing the point

Some of you are missing the Point. Sure it is possible to lose your virginity after 21 or even get into a relationship. But if you are doing it with an average female the chances of a equitable relationship are zero.

Let's say you 23 and never dated. Your girl is also 23 and has lead a normal existence. Not even slutting it up she would have double digit sex partners assuming she's lost her virginity at 17 and only had two partner she per year.

So you get in a relationship with her and she has all these experiences and you have none. Are you going to lie about it or tell the truth? She can probably tell anyway so you might as well tell the truth. But now she knows you're a loser- there IS A REASON YOU HAVENT HAD SEX BY 21.

Remember that the person who cares less in a relationship has the most power. If I have options I care less. That's the entire point. If I'm a girl with 50 guys in my phone who I could hit up at any time- why would I put up with any shit from a virgin? The only way that relationship works is if the virgin falls in line completely. This is how beta bucks are crafted and is the entire point of the post and this sub in general imho.

I think there should be a dramatic shift from trying to escape inceldom twords embracing it and becoming MGTOW.

Deane_, /r/incels 17 Comments [3/15/2017 7:53:27 AM]
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Quote# 125404

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nerdlord View Post
Men and women are not wired the same. Evolution dictates that a woman take the safest approach to life in order to protect and nurture offspring long term. Men are programmed to take as much risk as possible in order to impregnate the highest number of females possible.

This raises an interesting point. In today's society we actively fight against our evolutionary hardwiring. A "strong woman" is seen as a woman who acts like a man and rejects her more feminine and nurturing instincts. We consider a well adjusted, modern man as someone who rejects or suppresses his masculine instincts to get in touch with his "feminine side".

If a woman earns more, often she will work and the man will stay home and care for the kids. Regardless of the fact that a woman would be naturally and instinctively better at child care than a man would. That's not an insult and it's certainly not true in ALL cases, but in the majority of them, it is.

Our differences complement each other. Why fight against them? Why treat a woman as a failure if she is inclined to be a mother and care for her kids at home?

We may THINK we've evolved beyond this or we are more "enlightened" nowadays but these hardwired instincts still inform everything we do, many times subconsciously.

It's why women are often attracted to jerks and why men are attracted to youth and beauty and often turned off by aggressive women who act like men.

This programming is thousands and thousands of years old. It isn't going to be overwritten in less than a hundred years. We can TRY but it ends up coming out sideways anyway.

Voiceofreazon, City-Data 9 Comments [3/15/2017 4:51:37 AM]
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