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Quote# 132632

Notice how fast proof is being taken down on the internet, I suspect Antifa will be used to bring in martial law, this is why UN MRAPS were being sent down our Highways, Stadiums Malls and Walmarts will be used as collection points. so be aware from this day forward.

This is all being staged, they are using Gun Control and Hillary to divert attention away, I suspect the they will have their professional teams out to make it appear like Antifa and or Right wingers to blame for the carnage, explains why Russians troop and Chinese Troops have been training here on our soil, and it appears it is all coming together for the Globalists, this is a all or nothing operation for them. and I suspect history will show the las Vegas shooting as the We the Peoples Modern Day World order. my opinions on this matter

Anonymous Coward, Godlike Productions 3 Comments [10/6/2017 3:05:02 AM]
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Quote# 132631

Indeed! I thought about this before. He was an arms dealer, supplying arms to terrorist or anyone with the money, which is why his own brother couldn't answer where he got the millions from or what he really worked as. The ISIS terrorists found about his plan and killed him in his room and committed the killing.

Whatever the case, this is NOT an open and shut case! This literally reeks of dirty, dirty hands all over it and I believe his girlfriend Marylouz is a prime suspect.

The Deplorable Nicomachus, Godlike Productions 0 Comments [10/6/2017 3:04:58 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132618

I don’t believe in germ theory or a viral cause of disease. I’m college educated, and not a religious fundamentalist (not even religious). Why SHOULD i believe in it? What evidence do you have that germs cause disease? The reasons you believe in it, is because you’ve been led to believe that treatment has garnered success. e.g. Polio vaccine.

However, if you allow yourself, for a second, to consider that Polio was never caused by a virus in the first place, whatever has transipred since then can be still explained. Many contend Polio was instead caused by DDT exposure, which was coincientally phased out during the same era as Polio vaccinations coming into vogue. Also, the definitions by which a doctor could diagnose a condition as polio, became more refined dozens of times during the ’50s, basically making it appear that Polio was on decline. Fact is, the same paralytic conditions that defined polio back then, still exist today, but doctors aren’t allowed to define it as such.

Don’t you remember as a child how silly it sounded when your mom told you what a germ is? Basically, an invisible little invader that causes sickness? The child in you was right. The reality of the situation has not changed just because Big Pharma claims it.

You may think i’m crazy and stupid, but ask yourself this question… “Do you get sick”? I (one who doesn’t believe in germ/viral theory), do not get sick. Haven’t even had the sniffles in probably 10 years. You, on the other hand(one who believes in germ/viral theory, and takes all the vaccines, get sick multiple times a year). Why am I the silly one? Thru all your beliefs in vaccines, what good has it actually done you?

Tony F., Respectful Insolence  6 Comments [10/5/2017 12:07:40 PM]
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Quote# 132617


Reason #1: Fluoridation Is an Outdated Form of Mass Medication

Unlike all other water treatment processes, fluoridation does not treat the water itself, but the person consuming it. The Food & Drug Administration accepts that fluoride is a drug, not a nutrient, when used to prevent disease. By definition, therefore, fluoridating water is a form of medication. This is why most western European nations have rejected the practice — because, in their view, the public water supply is not an appropriate place to be adding drugs, particularly when fluoride is readily available for individual use in the form of toothpaste.

Reason #2: Fluoridation Is Unnecessary and Ineffective

The most obvious reason to end fluoridation is that it is now known that fluoride’s main benefit comes from topical contact with the teeth, not from ingestion. Even the CDC’s Oral Health Division now acknowledges this. There is simply no need, therefore, to swallow fluoride, whether in the water, toothpaste, or any other form. Further, despite early claims that fluoridated water would reduce cavities by 65%, modern large-scale studies show no consistent or meaningful difference in the cavity rates of fluoridated and non-fluoridated areas.

Reason #3: Fluoridation Is Not a Safe Practice

The most important reason to end fluoridation is that it is simply not a safe practice, particularly for those who have health conditions that render them vulnerable to fluoride’s toxic effects.

First, there is no dispute that fluoridation is causing millions of children to develop dental fluorosis, a discoloration of the teeth that is caused by excessive fluoride intake. Scientists from the Centers for Disease Control have even acknowledged that fluoridation is causing “cosmetically objectionable” fluorosis on children’s front teeth–an effect that can cause children embarrassment and anxiety at an age when physical appearance is the single most important predictor of self-esteem.

Second, it is known that fluoridated water caused severe bone disease in dialysis patients up until the late 1970s (prior to dialysis units filtering fluoride). While dialysis units now filter out the fluoride, research shows that current fluoride exposures are still resulting in dangerously high bone fluoride levels in dialysis patients and patients with other advanced forms of kidney disease. It is unethical to compromise the health of some members in a population to obtain a purported benefit for another — particularly in the absence of these vulnerable members’ knowing consent.

And, finally, a growing body of evidence reasonably indicates that fluoridated water, in addition to other sources of daily fluoride exposure, can cause or contribute to a range of serious effects, including arthritis, damage to the developing brain, reduced thyroid function, and possibly osteosarcoma (bone cancer) in adolescent males.

In recent years, communities throughout the United States and Canada have started to reassess the conventional wisdom of fluoridating their water. Many of these communities, including over 50 since 2010, are reaching the obvious conclusion: when stripped of its endorsements, well-meaning intentions, and PR-praise, fluoridation simply makes no sense.

Europe reached this conclusion a long time ago. It is now time for the U.S. and other English-speaking nations to follow suit.

Flouride Action Network, Fluoride Alert 3 Comments [10/5/2017 12:07:36 PM]
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Quote# 132616

Alliance for Natural Health International is an internationally active non-governmental organisation promoting natural and sustainable approaches to healthcare worldwide. Our catch cry is ‘love nature, live naturally’.

ANH-Intl campaigns across a wide range of fields, including for freedom of choice in healthcare, healthy eating & lifestyles, and the use of micronutrients and herbal products in the management of our health and resilience.

We operate campaigns that include drawing attention to misinformed, Big Food influenced government healthy eating advice, to the uncertain science and risks of genetically modified foods, to the need for informed choice on vaccination and that aim to end mass fluoridation of drinking water supplies. We accomplish our mission through a unique application of ‘good science’ and ‘good law’.

Alliance for Natural Health, Alliance for Natural Health 2 Comments [10/5/2017 12:07:31 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132614

The germ theory of disease is a hoax created by Louis Pasteur and latched onto and perpetuated by establishment medicine.

It is the belief that disease or sickness is spread by germs or viruses outside the body. The germ theory opens the way to impose millions of drug concoctions upon the people. Don’t we realize that this notion implies that every illness or sickness is drug-dependent?

Germ theory has been promulgated upon us for so long by establishment medicine and the propaganda media that there can no longer be serious inquiry into the nature of infections and the ways to prevent them. But like the “97 percent consensus” surrounding anthropogenic global warming, the germ theory is a notion of nonsense that has confused millions of people, enriched the pharmaceuticals and empowered a growing medical police state.

The World Health Organization, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and other national health bureaucracies, along with a compliant propaganda media, have conditioned the modern mind to equate medicine with health and germs with disease. So to prevent us from becoming sick, conventional wisdom holds, we must treat ourselves beforehand with drugs (vaccines) to kill the “bad germs” in advance. And once we become sick, we must treat ourselves with more drugs to kill the germs that overcame the vaccines we administered to prevent us from becoming sick in the first place.

As I noted in “Doctors fret over future of drugs as antibiotic overuse creates antibiotic-resistant ‘superbugs,’” the overuse of antibiotics in our food (by inoculating the poultry and livestock) and the over-prescription of antibiotics by doctors to their patients has created ever more prevalent and ever more deadly “superbugs” resistant to known antibiotics.

But even worse, the overuse of antibiotics is damaging our health by also destroying the germs and microbes the human body must have to stay healthy. That’s because antibiotics don’t differentiate one germ or microbe from another. They attack them all.

Now a new study published in the journal “Atherosclerosis” demonstrates that even the so-called “bad germs” are necessary for good health.

According to the study, measles and mumps infections were associated with decreased risks of mortality from cardiovascular disease (CVD). There is also evidence indicating that a higher number of infections lowers the overall mortality rate from cardiovascular disease.

The study in Japan followed 43,689 men and 60,147 women aged 40-79 beginning in 1988-1990 and followed them until 2009. It found that men who had a history of measles showed an 8 percent reduction in total CVD; and those with mumps had a 48 percent reduction in mortality from stroke, a 79 percent reduction in mortality from hemorrhagic stroke. Men with a history of both measles and mumps showed a mortality reduction of 20 percent in total CVD, 29 percent for myocardial infarction and 17 percent for total stroke.

Women with both infections showed comparable reductions, including 15 percent reduction in mortality from total CVD, 21 percent for total stroke, and 22 percent for both ischemic and hemorrhagic stroke. The study concluded that “Measles and mumps, especially in case of both infections, were associated with lower risks of mortality from atherosclerotic CVD.”

Measles was once a joke disease and considered a rite of passage for American youth. But that was before the medical cartel and propaganda media went to work on the American public to create an irrational fear of normal childhood diseases.

Vaccines and other chemical cocktails reduce and inhibit natural immunity, making us more susceptible to a host of diseases. During the so-called “measles outbreak” connected to the Disney theme park in 2014 it was found that most of those who contracted the measles had been previously vaccinated with the MMR (measles-mumps-rubella) vaccine. Studies are also showing that more flu shots make people more susceptible to the flu.

We are told and intimidated by medical propaganda over and over that we must be protected internally from diseases that originate in the external environment. What the establishment does not tell us is that when we are healthy, we have peak immunity and can walk and live among sick people and not get sick.

Bob Livingston, EasyHealthOptions 3 Comments [10/5/2017 12:07:20 PM]
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Quote# 132612

The British people will no more fall for all this fake news about Jeremy Corbyn being antisemitic than they did for the fake news during last June’s parliamentary elections that labeled him an undeserving and hapless candidate.

Brits, especially their youth, are so captivated by Corbyn’s domestic proposals that they’ll see this fake news for what it is – a desperate attempt by Britain’s Zionist lobby to prevent G.B. from going its own way vis-a-vis justice for Palestine.

Even more ridiculous, mainstream media’s siding with the Lobby against Corbyn. Racing towards its irrelevancy, that’s what this represents. Meanwhile, the ascendancy of the Internet and the struggle to keep it open and free of censorship.

yourstruly, MondoWeiss 0 Comments [10/5/2017 11:00:59 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132611

The whine from Labour Friends of Israel and JLM of, “Anti-Semitic; it’s a ‘trope’, etc.” against anyone seeking reasoned answers to how it is that a large swathe of the Labour Party can apparently support the illegal occupation and blockade is familiar and was well-documented in the AJ series mentioned in Jonathan’s article.

Those who watched the AJ documentaries carefully would have caught a near-hysterical Joan Ryan, M. P., adding her own piece of proprietary embroidery to the narrative she was retailing in a largely successful attempt to whip up indignation among anyone who would listen. The power of the pro-Israel lobby in the U. K. political establishment on both sides of the Houses of Parliament needs to be brought into open view before it can be effectively attacked and neutralised.

Similar, illegitimate power and influence on public or party policy wielded by Freemasonry or any other interest group (particularly one actively sub-vented by the government of a foreign power), if exposed, would be rightly excoriated. The pro-Israel lobby has protected itself from scrutiny and resulting opprobrium by exploiting the fear of false accusations of anti-Semitism. It’s difficult to foresee how this noose of fear can be loosened.

The article refers to Jackie Walker, M.P. Ms. Walker embodies white, European Zionists’ nightmare, of course: she’s animate proof and a much-needed reminder that being a Jew has damn all to do with someone’s race but is determined by their religious heritage or belief; and that being Jewish doesn’t make someone a congenital Zionist! No candidate elected to public office, btw, should represent the interests of British Jews (all +/- 300,000 of them, Zionist and non-Zionist); they should represent the interests of their constituents, including Christians, Muslims, Jews, electors of other faiths and of none.

The hypocrisy of such as the Harmsworths in the MSM, jumping on the “Labour anti-Semitism” bandwagon as a stick with which to beat Corbyn/Momentum, should surprise no-one; sadly, this media coverage helps entrench a false narrative. I’m no Corbyn apologist but on the questions of Palestinian rights and of the wrongs wrought by Israel, I hope he’s able to maintain the considerable courage of his convictions in the face of JLM and the other illegitimate influences seeking to silence him over Palestine and axiomatically, therefore, over Israel.

Rashers2, MondoWeiss 0 Comments [10/5/2017 11:00:56 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132610

This is a great summary, and wonderful PR for the movement for sanity in diagnoses and treatments.

I would only add the sexual dimension: Please cite the number of sexual contacts with a supposedly “infected” person that the CDC itself claims are necessary for “transmission” of the “virus.”

And then ask people to think about that. That number: 1,000? 3,000? This is usually with multiple partners, once each, a kind of Russian Roulette where you have sex with a person who is “infected” on that 1,000th or 3,000th time or whatever that they are actually “transmitting” the “virus.”

What kind of drugs, with what kind of immunological side effects, are necessary to sustain that kind of activity? What kind of psychological woundedness would a person carry into such an experience? How many other infections, viruses better documented, would a person pick up, and what would be the long-term effects on their immune systems of that level of constant onslaught? How would those things be risk factors in themselves?

And if somebody is objecting that this is Puritanism, ask them: What is their “ick” number? What level of sexual activity is too much? What level of detachment is a sign of psychosis? If not 3,000, how about 10,000? Because that’s how many sexual partners some of the original “AIDS” patients had.

This has nothing to do with the “HIV test,” because, as Neville Hodgkinson documented, the test was set at an artificially low threshold of “positive” to test blood supplies. Nobody minded if they threw out a lot of bags of blood, erring on the safe side — but if they’re labeling people as doomed with that test, they’re throwing out people who never even came close to that level of sexual activity or infection or malnutrition. Healthy people, caused to worry needlessly.

Sacrificing people.

And who are these people? Anyone important to us? People with issues, problems, drug addictions, sexual habits most folks don’t want to talk about? Human beings worth saving?

Is it OK to sacrifice certain people, or not? Avoiding the question is key to keeping “AIDS” alive.

I believe the answer, for most mainstream AIDS activists, is yes. Certain people are to be sacrificed, but we’re supposed to pretend we care. We’re not supposed to look too deeply within ourselves.

But if I really care . . . what then? Won’t I object to this labeling of people? Killing of people? Using a bogus test, an unreal label. Yes, I do care about the “stigma of HIV.” Stop labeling people with “HIV,” and the “stigma” is no longer a problem.

Start diagnosing people with their true immune deficiencies, and the source of these, and you begin to actually help them.

Thanks, Liam. On a clear day, you can see forever. You can see the truth.

Elizabeth Ely, ReduceTheBurden 1 Comments [10/5/2017 10:59:23 AM]
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Quote# 132608

In Wikipedia, the HIV/AIDS hypothesis is only rarely maintained and defended by editors using their real names. The problem is that the logic and assumptions underlying the hypothesis are so fundamentally dishonest that, like the press secretary of a tottering tyrant or failing president, anyone who becomes publicly and continually associated with them eventually suffers a damaged personal and professional reputation.

Considering the amount of work and risk involved, no one would bother for long without a direct or indirect special interest. What better solution than to hide behind a pseudonym, given that most editors use them by custom? That’s our opportunity. We dissidents went public with our views when we became signatories here or on our Facebook page, so there is nothing to stop us from doing the same on Wikipedia.

It's a curious situation: dissidents have names but orthodoxists don't. Isn't it supposed to be the other way around?

We suggest a crowdsourcing approach specifically to keep dissidents focused only on edits that will garner the most support from other dissidents. Template messages are the obvious place to start. Later, as informal associations among us congeal, more detailed text-edits among a range of HIV/AIDS articles (see above) should become feasible.

Use the Discussion pages for that, but don’t waste your time trying to reason with or convert pseudonyms. (If a rare real-name orthodoxist editor should challenge you, have fun.) And finally, be careful of burnout. Towards that end, try to limit your edits to one per article per day. Speed and convenience is the idea.

Rethinking AIDS, Rethinking AIDS 2 Comments [10/5/2017 10:59:08 AM]
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Quote# 132607

Losing a debate about one of your most cherished beliefs? There’s a handy way to shut down such discourse, to discredit intellectual enemies employing pesky reading-and-fact-based arguments. Just call them out as deniers or denialists, as in the epitome of earthly evil, Holocaust Denialism.

Demonize your critics, to stop them from criticizing your demons. It works really well for talking heads, like New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman, observed in December on Cable Noise Network putting down the global warming “deniers,” as he called them (while hawking the tree-killing paperback version of his latest opus magnum, “Hot, Flat, and Crowded 2.0: Why We Need a Green Revolution.”)

Not convinced? Then consult preachers at The Al Gore Church of Greenhouse Gas Bags, or medical science experts in The HIV-AIDS Industrial Complex. Listen to them shout about the apocalyptic meltdown being wrought by global warming denialists. Hear them exhort against the killer AIDS denialists.

The “tricking” of tree ring “data” revealed in the Climategate emails should be instructive to all free minds. Many scientists are just politicians with advanced degrees. They play their expertise card to propagandize for less-than-fully-baked theories--just like the best and the brightest domino theory’d us into Vietnam, those brilliant neo-con-artists WMD’d us into Iraq, and our super smart president fooled himself (and us) into the Afghan abyss.

As I tell my political journalism students, accept no received wisdom, especially when it comes from figure-ers who lie, and liars who figure.

For the past quarter century, the “denialist” epithet has been hurled at credible, well-motivated biologists, bio-chemists, physicians, epidemiologists, investigative science-and-health journalists, and other intelligent outliers with the temerity to question the scientific consensus behind the single pathogen theory of what caused AIDS.

Acquired immune deficiency syndrome, as it was labeled after first being called Gay Related Immunodeficiency Syndrome or GRID, really was--no denying it--killing thousands of gay men for about a decade, from the early 1980's to the beginning of the 1990's, when its incidence started to decline. But most of the interpreters of our reality, the science-and-math-challenged Main Stream Media, who wouldn’t know a biology lab from a Labrador Retriever, believe the drop in what has become known as “HIV disease” was a function of miracle drugs peddled by the pharmaceutical industry, the Highly Active Anti-Retroviral Therapies--that benign-sounding but highly toxic “side”-affecting HAART, introduced in 1996, three or four years after AIDS began to subside.

AIDS “denialists,” the first of whom was biologist Dr. Peter Duesberg of the Univ. of California at Berkeley, have been shunned from the free market of ideas. They have been denied entry to scientific and medical peer review journals. They are much like the “deniers” who dare question the received wisdom of The Gore-acle of Global Warming.

Having spent the past three years studying mysteries of the HIV=AIDS paradigm, I am ready to admit I am a full-fledged, out-of-the-closet, HIV-AIDS denialist. After some pretty intense book reading, almost daily internet-assisted document research, and considerable old-fashioned journalistic interviewing of knowledgeable sources, I have concluded there is not now, there never was, a “human immunodeficiency virus.” The single pathogen theory was wrong. A controversial view, to be sure, but one for which I can cite facts and fact-based arguments.

AIDS among gay men was of multi-factorial causation, from an unusually intense exchange of old pathogens in the aftermath of the mid-20th Century sexual revolution; an unprecedented ingestion of toxins, in the form of recreational drugs; and the psychogenically health damaging effects of being a hated minority group--all of which were immuno-suppressive in a subset of gay men who ghetto-ized themselves in urban America after the late 1960's.

And heterosexual AIDS in Africa? It’s just the name given by western medicine men to health harm from old immuno-suppressive malnutrition and unclean drinking water, and a high incidence of old diseases like tuberculosis and malaria--not the result of a wily retrovirus that never caused a heterosexual epidemic of AIDS in the white West.

I published the results of my study in an 8,000-word piece at my web site on the internet, about the only place we denialists can give voice to our dissent, and even there it’s difficult. I learned that December 7, when a guest commentary I wrote on AIDS and Big Pharma was erased Soviet-style from the popular Wall Street web site founded by CNBC’s Jim Cramer, TheStreet.com, after being up only four hours. I made the mistake of mentioning one of the powerful purveyors of anti-retrovirals, Gilead Sciences, Inc.

You can read my thoughts on the mysteries of HIV-AIDS here: End to AIDS Nearer Than We Think? Re-appraising HIV in its 25th Anniversary Year. And you can see the trailer for a new documentary film here: "House of Numbers," which raises questions about the single pathogen theory of AIDS.

"Give the people a new word and they think they have a new fact," Willa Cather wrote. The acronym HIV-AIDS is not even a word, let alone a fact.

Terry Michael, Terry Michael 4 Comments [10/5/2017 10:59:01 AM]
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Quote# 132604

DEPORT ALL Muslim migrants — the Armies of Barbaric Warlord Mohammad.

Warn Muslim invader boats that if they don’t turn around they’ll be blown out of the water — NO rescues!

Alas, our ruthless leaders refuse to do what they’re paid to do by our native taxpayers — PROTECT Our People.

Our leaders are profoundly EVIL. They’re importing Warlord Moahmmad’s Armies to wage WAR Against our people.

Our people must form civilian defense groups!!!!!

Linda Rivera, Bare Naked Islam 0 Comments [10/5/2017 10:57:04 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132603

We have only one real enemy in this world (outside of Satan), and it’s not the DPRK or Iran, it’s Israel itself.

The Zionist Entity demands a tribute of $4 billion a year from its #1 vassal, the US, money that could be much better used right here at home. Among these home uses of this $4 billion/yr. would be a huge reduction of student debt, and even its elimination. College and University tuition could be greatly reduced.

Students shouldn’t be forced to take out such tremendous loans in order to continue their education, and this is where the universities/colleges must come in. Their tuition’s way too high for middle and working class students.

The $4 billion sent as tribute to Israel must end immediately, so that universities and colleges may greatly reduce their tuition rates to a level more amiable to potential students and their parents. We have to completely break away from the Zionist Entity’s tentacles and end the $4 billion tribute before we can provide college and university level education for our children w/o having to take out usurious loans.

Eileen Kuch, Real Jew News 0 Comments [10/5/2017 10:57:01 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132602

Israel is supposed to be a homeland for the Jews, where Jews may find protection from terrorism, as every day there are one or more acts of terrorism in Israel.

An important question that needs to be asked about Israel is the question if it is true or not that Israel needs to have continuous terrorism in order for Israel to continue to exist.

If terrorism ceased to continue to exist in Israel and elsewhere, then there would no longer be a justification for Israel to continue to exist, as the Jews would no longer need a homeland where they may find protection from terrorism.

Also if the Palestinians and Arabs would manifest continuous peaceful behavior, then Israel would then NOT have any good justification to continue to deny many of their demands.

Is it possible therefore that somehow Israel sponsors the continuing terrorism, so that Israel may continue to exist?

Without the continuous existence of anti-Semitism and terrorism, the rate of assimilation of Jews away from Judaism would be much greater than it is today, and therefore there is this Zionist need for anti-Semitism and terrorism to continue to exist.

B, Real Jew News 0 Comments [10/5/2017 10:56:55 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132580

Health care is death by doctor, after they’ve emptied your pockets, and have decided that they’re tired of paying your retirement pension.

Abolish health “benefits” and the price of real healthcare and watch for unnecessary tests (CYA and padding the bill) disappear fast.

Return doctors to independence.

Eliminate the Jew-controlled AMA’s monopoly on licensing. Stop Big Pharma’s promotion of harmful drugs and vaccinations.

Oona, Real Jew News 2 Comments [10/4/2017 10:41:00 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132579

This is a poor article for several reasons. Demonizing one's "opponents" always strikes me as a huge red flag. Historically, Blacks have been demonized for being black; gays for being gay; and liberals for being liberal. Does anyone here remember Joe McCarthy?

AIDS has become a big industry, where pharmaceutical companies make multi-billions in profits. They care way more about selling drugs, then curing AIDS patients. Also, the test is goofy. Why are we looking for antibodies, not the actual virus? Why are we taking Antivirals, rather than a vaccine?

We need to discard our dogmatic approach to AIDS and embrace people who challenge our ideas. Dissent is a good thing. We should have dissented much more vigorously when Bush invaded Iraq; likewise, we should have dissented much more vigorously when the FDA pushed AZT on us for 10 years. People should be free to choose, whether or not to take the drugs. If they work for you, great. But, sometimes they don't work.

Kent Z, TheBody 6 Comments [10/4/2017 10:40:56 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132567

Senior Iranian officials claimed Tuesday the independence referendum in Iraqi Kurdistan a day earlier was a “plot” orchestrated by Israel and the United States.

“The Zionist regime and the world arrogance [US] are behind this issue,” the semi-official Fars News Agency quoted the head of the Iranian armed forces, General Mohammad Hossein Bagheri as saying on Tuesday.

Although Bagheri did not elaborate on Israel’s alleged role, the chief of staff to Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei claimed the independence referendum was a “Zionist plot” meant to fuel violence in the Middle East following the battlefield defeats in Iraq and Syria suffered by the Islamic State terror group.

“You may rest assured that it is a plot by the Zionist regime under such conditions that the ISIL is collapsing,” Fars quoted Mohammad Golpaigani as saying, using an alternative acronym for IS. Among numerous conspiracy theories posted on Arabic-language and Persian sites are claims that Israel’s Mossad agency is behind the rise of Islamic State.

“Now they have raised a new issue in the region,” he added. “[The] referendum and its related issues will cause many problems for the Kurds and the neighboring countries.”

In addition to the claims from top Iranian officials Israel is behind the independence vote, Turkish nationalists have said the referendum is meant to create a “second Israel.” Yeni Safak, a conservative Turkish newspaper loyal to Turkish leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan, has pointed to the presence of Israeli flags alongside “so-called Kurdish flags” at rallies organized by the Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP) and claimed that the referendum was part of a Zionist plot.

“Israel, using Masoud Barzani and the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) terrorist organization as pawns, seeks to obtain the area between the Nile and Euphrates, which is regarded as ‘the promised land’ in the Torah,” said an article entitled “Barzani plans to deliver ‘promised land’ to Israel.”

It added, “Zionists call the ‘Kurdistan’ that Barzani and the PKK want to establish as ‘Kurdo-Judaic,’ the ‘Jewish Kurdistan.’”

Earlier this month, Turkish media published conspiracy theories claiming that Israel was planning to repatriate Israeli Jews of Kurdish origin to Kurdistan after the referendum.

Mohammad Hossein Bagheri, Mohammad Golpaigani, Yeni Safak and Turkish media outlets, The Times of Israel 1 Comments [10/4/2017 11:05:07 AM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 132554

With all due respect, folks, Gilad’s observations about Jewish tribalism provide the only satisfactory explanation as to why otherwise progressive Jews including self-declared anti-Zionists have provided what to this point, has been an insurmountable roadblock in dealing with the two critical domestic issues germane to the Israel-Palestine conflict: the Israel Lobby/organized Jewish community and the question of US aid to Israel.

There is no other reason that I can come up with to explain why, outside of Mondoweiss, AIPAC has only become an issue in the past two years and then apparently only at MoveOver AIPAC last May. Sure, Chomsky and Zunes and later Finkelstein have deep-sixed the subject but that’s giving them Svengali like qualities they don’t possess. There must be something else that welcomes their dismissing of its importance.

And then we have the glaring question of US aid and the fact that there has yet to be a major campaign to educate the public about it and stop it. Instead, we have a choice of “End the Occupation!,” a useless slogan if there ever was one which has been either ignored or not understood by the vast majority of the American public that has no vested interest in either side, or at least didn’t before the rise of the evangelicals, and/or those pushing “two states for two peoples,” which, frankly, is of as little interest to the public as the problems of occupation.

But the public just might be CONCERNED about where its tax money goes and who and what groups are exempted from paying millions in taxes that benefit a foreign government. Why no campaign? Why no attempt to educate the public? (Sorry, BDS, is worthwhile, but it is not a substitute for the real thing.) It is not out of ignorance, I assure you. I have mentioned it before and will do so again. Some of the very same people were involved in a nationwide campaign to block the Contras from getting $15 million and they succeeded, which led to the Iran-Contra scandal. So why not aid to Israel? Looking at the composition of leadership of the pro-Palestinian organizations who I have known over the past 30 or so years, the answer jumps out: Jewish tribalism.

Jeffrey Blankfort, MondoWeiss 0 Comments [10/4/2017 11:02:44 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132531

There will NEVER be a full on Nuclear exchange. The Watchers will not allow it and have already prevented numerous attempts.

To summarize the documentary, hundreds of nuclear mussels, ICBM's, minute man silos, and plutonium facilities have been systematically monitored and disabled by highly advanced space vehicles for over 60 years now.

The documentary is based on government reports and official affidavits from multiple different nations.

Apparently a noninterference policy on part of the Watchers has allowed numerous tests, they always prevent an actual exchange. And will not allow an exchange in the future. Don't flatter yourselves though, they are only protecting the earth, not humanity.

Don't let the CIA fear mongering about North Korean Nunez frighten you. It will Never happen as the video will clearly show. If there is an alleged "EMP" that knocks out the grid, understand right now that it was only the establishment Deep State flipping a switch and turning the power off.

Anonymous Coward, Godlike Productions 6 Comments [10/3/2017 1:13:05 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132530

Islamophobes are patriots — NORMAL people who OPPOSE Muslim colonization, Muslim Conquest and the Enforcement of Barbaric sharia where intensely hated non-Muslims have no human rights.

The EVIL UN, EU, OIC, NWO globalist elites and leftists want non-Muslims to ACCEPT Muslim Conquest and Sharia.


Linda Rivera, Bare Naked Islam 1 Comments [10/3/2017 1:12:46 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132502

Because the media is numerically signaling — to those in “the know” — that this whole thing was some sort of setup operation. Those with occult knowledge will understand what I mean when I say “numerically” signaling.

322 is the main number for the Skull & Bones cult. The same one that John Kerry and the criminal Bush family are in — just to name a few. In many of these types of occurrences, you’ll often see “32” signaled in news reports.

They’ll also use “23,” which is obviously “32,” backwards. It’s usually some sort of backwards or forwards variation of 32, 23, 322, 223, etc. This happened on the 32nd floor, and he had 23 guns. See the pattern?

I mean, just ask yourself logically....why would anyone need 23 guns to do something like this? The answer? They wouldn’t. Makes absolutely zero fucking sense. Also, these guns are fully automatic.

They’re EXTREMELY hard to get your hands on (if you’re a regular person), if not impossible, even. The only ones with access to these types of weapons are big daddy “gubbamint” alphabet agencies.

Paladin2903, r/MGTOW 6 Comments [10/3/2017 10:42:07 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132483

[Thread on Las Vegas shooting]

I'm calling it.

This entire thing is a false flag.

The youtube videos look fake, lots of really bad acting.

Not enough (any?) blood or people lying dead.

The crowd is not reacting properly - they are far too calm and not moving fast enough.

If real bullets are plowing into a crowd?


None of that.

The deep state needs guns out of the way.

This is what it's about....

Right124567890, Infowars 10 Comments [10/3/2017 12:55:15 AM]
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Submitted By: Damned at Random

Quote# 132474

(This is a follow up to a blog posting that he's still going to give €1000 for a video of a rocket that is in the sky for longer than 17 seconds.)

-> Do you think I have to give 1000 euro for this video?

Now that 1 oktober is behind us with a LAS-VEGAS-FIREWORKS-BANG, I want to call people to give a comment to the video of Tyler Burden, that got 350.000 views.

Has it therefore been proven that it's not a real rocket launch that was slowed down in "the background"?
Or that rocket has the shape of a balloon that therefore slowly flies into te sky?
Who of you wants to be the "witness" of a meeting that I'm going to have with him?

(The video he's talking of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGJV0P_r1Rs )

Mark Peeters, skynetblogs 5 Comments [10/2/2017 2:00:22 PM]
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Quote# 132462

Conspiracy theories and alternative research is a minefield where good information is hard to find and misdirection guaranteed. One of the facts we will have deal with sooner or later is that alternative research was not invented by truth seekers – the origin of conspiracy theory comes from the perpetrators themselves who have been well versed in tactical warfare from the get-go. To gain complete control the Elite (or whatever we might call the power-structure/hidden hand) appear to always have the ambition to control every side of any conflict or topic. To be able to do so, they design their own resistance with as much care (or even more) than their official and admitted roadmap. We might call this state of affairs a perpetual state of Psychological Operations or Controlled Opposition – you might not always see it but whenever you look closely, it is rarely missing in action.

The Elite seem to be the ultimate control freaks and leave no field of human activity untouched. Wherever the ‘Nutwork’ have their hands, disinformation follow. What this means for the tiny fraction of alternative researchers that are not covertly part of the power-structure is that we are inundated with new conspiracies and psyops. By now most of us have probably made that very observation; wherever we look closely, things are not what they seem from the outside. It is very effective tactics – we loose our motivation and focus as the rabbit holes get more plentiful, disturbing and ever deeper. This psychological strain makes anyone who offer a way out look attractive and gatekeepers thrive in such scenarios. The temptation is hard to resist, and many buy in – they close down their inquisitive mind. But they are played. To stop any inquiry because of the presence of disinformation is a logical fallacy the Elite incites us to make and that they have planned for us specifically. DBA (discredit by association) is an example of a fallacy that build on Conspiracy Fatigue (CF) and act to end even the most resilient researchers quest: CF is a graveyard of independent thought. And we might all have smelt the seducing perfume of resting within our own conspiracy comfort zones – only we forget this is not how we got to where we are in the first place.

How is looking at a bunch of photographs and video clips of celebrities and then claiming each one is the opposite gender an investigation? This is obviously intellectually dishonest and it obviously requires us to have absolutely no real experience with members of the opposite sex in real life, no understanding of how biology works, an unwillingness to do a simple Google search to see how and why this is just fallacy, and a complete willingness to suspend all disbelief and believe whatever a voice on a screen tells us. – AA Morris (citation from article)

“A PROPER GANDER: Let’s All Commute To A New Future”

The “Alberta EinSTEIN – Theory of TRANNYTIVITY”: Is This Really Meant To Be Taken Seriously?

EGI is an observable fact we can verify by ourselves esoterically and (more strenuously) esoterically. Bruce Jenner, Bradley Manning, Chaz Bono and other celebrities represent the exoteric side of Elite Gender Inversion while Zeke Smith, Jenna Talackova, Caroline Cossey illustrate the most accessible esoteric side to Elite Gender Inversion. The existence of EGI both openly and covertly is in itself not really a matter of opinion – it is factual. However, many alternative researchers still choose to ignore or attack the research into EGI and/or expect there to be fair play at hand devoid of any contrivances. If anyone is in doubt by now – sex and gender are major parts of warfare and so is transgenderism. There is no fair play in sight and there is a coordinated effort by the Elite to control both sides of the current dialectic – both the open and the hidden agenda of EGI are targeted. As expected, unless you fold in to the fallacies and fear of gatekeepers using DBA or Conspiracy Fatigue to their advantage – then of course you might regress back in time to another comfort zone or just ignore new information and ‘move on‘. Like many serious researchers moved on from the Flat Earth and now once again are comfortably seated on with Max Igan’s Q27 flight around the spinning globe destined for unknowingness (and yes, i do include Jeran on that ‘double Zayin’ flight).

Fakeologist EGI Forum Thread (11 pages and some 200+ posts)
Attacks on Fakeologist.com EGI research is mostly done indirectly with help of the many YouTube channels that are trying to ‘out’ secretly transgendered celebrities by way of their Transvestigations. Many alternative researchers conveniently choose to mix the Fakeologist EGI research together with more eccentric Youtube channels in a targeted effort to discredit us and the topic itself. I invite anyone of these critical minds to discuss factually about Elite Gender Inversion – although i’m keenly aware that much of their noise is coming from a deceptive or biased (CF) angle focusing on to the sensational side and not what is brought up in detail on the forum-thread and Fakeologist audio content.

Relating to the criticism made in the (anonymous*) AA Morris article it is clear that Fakeologist once again is put in the same basket as popular Youtube Channels and indirectly ridiculed, in this case by way of using past radio guest Jon Humanity’s channel and his video of Albert Einstein in his heeled women’s sandals and appearance. While Jon Humanity has many flawed opinions on a wide range of topics, he still has the merit of doing in-depth analysis of celebrities anatomy and raise many pertinent question regarding Elite Gender Inversion. Regardless, it is quite deceptive to imply that this site and members share all or any of Jon Humanity’s opinions – when he’s referenced on this site it is regarding EGI – not his speculation on the Mudflood, Giants or the White Right.

UNreal, Fakeologist 1 Comments [10/2/2017 12:50:18 PM]
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Quote# 132454

The SHOOTING in VEGAS is just the beginning my friends, SYSTEMIC SOCIETAL BREAKDOWN COMING !

It is no joke folks.

Fiscal Disaster is imminent,


What is coming will strike fear in the Heart of this Country.

Do not take their pill or drink their koolaide !!!

Americans will start to SNAP and they will be Patriotically motivated to defend themselves and their families.


Please people, try not to always let the MSM tell you they are crooks and wackos.

Sure some are.....but as this increases due to UNEMPLOYMENT benefits expiring, MASSIVE amounts of homeowners and families HOMELESS !!! There is much more to come.

It is very sad and it hurts me to see some of the Truly Patriotic Hardworking American Families suffering at the hands of the Treasonous Bankers, Wall Street and Blue Coats.

Emergency Broadcast System, Godlike Productions 1 Comments [10/2/2017 12:48:50 PM]
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