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Quote# 142960

A number of ancient writers mention Christ, as you know. We have more about Christ than we do about Julius Caesar. Christianity is based upon historical facts from eyewitness accounts.

church mouse guy, BaptistBoard 16 Comments [3/24/2019 1:20:42 PM]
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Quote# 142959

Every thing that is against the bible that christians have to sit through to make a grade be it this or the teachings on evolution is a form of Christian persecution. In the wider sence. That what lutherans believe we know were being persecuted. Even gateway pundit supposedly a conservative political site Persecute's christians this is Gods world when a christian can not say that His God is by far better than any other God that is persecution in the wide sence! When you can not openly honor God in this world of his with out some devils advocate stopping your post from being seen!

robert boe, Christian News Network 12 Comments [3/24/2019 1:20:39 PM]
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Quote# 142958

Christophobia


(image says: "1 innocent Christian is murdered every 5 minutes just for believing in Jesus. Christianity is illegal in 51 countries. LEGALIZE JESUS")

Christophobia: the intolerance of, hostility towards and/or discrimination against Jesus Christ/God and Christians.

Why has intolerance towards God/Jesus Christ and Christians increased? Why is it celebrated?

Why aren't more news sources reporting the rampant persecution and abuse of Christians?

Why hasn't the mass murders of millions of Christians all over the world been denounced and stopped by every world leader?

Why is the hate (Christophobia) and physical abuse against Christians, in the video below, allowed ?

https://youtu.be/LI2_6mZi12k (link goes to YouTube video: "D.C. Pride Parade: Gay Supporters Attack Christian Preacher")

Don't forget to RECOMMEND. Lets get the Truth out so that Light may shine bright in this dark place and Jesus Christ may be glorified and the captives may be set free in Jesus name. Even if the discussion is closed, please still RECOMMEND.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - Faith & Religion 16 Comments [3/24/2019 1:20:37 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 142955

[Responding to an article entitled "Science proves the Earth isn’t flat: An expert shares ways you can see for yourself"]

You can believe the Bible, or you can believe theoretical physics. You can't believe both. They are diametrically opposed to each other. You can either worship God, or NASA. gov Your choice. Choose wisely.

Franklin E. Tompkins Sr., Natural News 16 Comments [3/24/2019 1:20:29 PM]
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Quote# 142943

Relentless: Here’s what it boils down to, in my opinion:
— there is no example of a good homosexual relationship anywhere in scripture
— there is no condemnation of heterosexuals doing “that which is unnatural”
— Paul stated exactly what he meant: men lying with men, and women lying with women
— in 1 Cor. 6:9-11 (see also 1 Tim. 1:9-10) Paul lists homosexuality in a list of things the people had once been but were now cleansed from. (I understand some hold that Paul’s word “arsenokoitais” meant a particular kind of homosexuality, but this is begging the question.)
— the mere possibility of some doubt upon the meaning of a word does not overturn context
— If the Bible is malleable enough to throw context away, there’s no point in debating its content
— The charge of having an agenda to oppose homosexuality is no more true than the charge of having an agenda to accept it; that is, there is easily as much evidence that some are bent on getting it accepted, as that some are bent on getting it rejected
— Love does not mean accepting and tolerating any and every behavior society deems normal and healthy, and at times the Christian community seems to have lower morals than society
— see 1 Cor. 5, where Paul showed no concern over whether the couple were faithful and loving; not even heteros can have just anyone they want, such that it isn’t just homosexuals who are denied that freedom
And as I mentioned before, looking at Paul’s list of bad things, and picking only one item for nuances allowing certain types of that behavior, is the fallacy of special pleading and begging the question. The burden of proof for acceptance of some forms of homosexual practice lies with its supporters, and no such proof can be derived from scripture.

Joel H: Relentless:
"The comment I made before really has nothing to do with the nuances of the words but the section as a whole. Paul is portraying same-sex intimacy in a very bad light."
It’s clear that Paul is portraying same-sex intimacy as unnatural for some people, in particular, for those who start with heterosexuality (and “exchange” it for homosexuality). This doesn’t mean that it’s against everyone’s nature.
By comparison, Paul refers to “deceit” in verse 28. Do you think that deceit is always evil? What about the father using deceit to smuggle his daughter out of a war zone? Do you think Paul condemns such a parent?

Relentless: Joel, I just don’t see “for some people” in the context there. Would Paul also say that “for some people” heterosexuality is unnatural? Again, the burden of proof is on the addition of “for some people”.
As for deceit, you provided an example where it can have a good meaning, and such can even be found in scripture (e.g. when Samuel was told to lie about his reasons for going to anoint the next king of Israel). Please provide such a good example in scripture for homosexuality.

Robert Kan: It is not correct to say that they exchanged their natural affections with unnatural affections. The text claims that they “exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures”. And “they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator”. Paul goes on to condemn a lot of behaviors after describing the source of the problem, making it clear that it was God who “gave them over to degrading passions”. It may well be that the source of the “problem” today is not the same as it was during the time of Paul, but that does not change the status of the listed behaviors. People today attribute the “problem” to genetics, but it matters little in the end. At the end of the day, it’s the behavior that Paul ultimately condemns – “those who practice such things are worthy of death”.
Trying to find some “good” exceptions to justify a practice that would otherwise be evil is not helpful. Deceit is never good – but it may be the lesser of the two evils when push comes to shove.

Joel H: Robert,
You quote Romans 1:32 (“They know God’s decree, that those who practice such things deserve to die — yet they not only do them but even applaud others who practice them.) What do you think “such things” in this verse are? And why?

Robert Kan: I imagine that the list is not exhaustive. But it’s still pretty impressive to say the least. “Such things” closes the loop for those who might try too hard to find a way out.

Joel H. on June 12, 2015 at 8:55 am
What I meant is this:
The paragraphing in the NRSV suggests that the clause only refers to vss. 28-31 (and, therefore, the behaviors in 29-31). This would make sense, particularly if verses 28 and 32 bracket the list.
Do you agree with the NRSV, or do you think verse 32 refers back even further?

Relentless: Joel, I see 26-32 as one paragraph. There is a pericope in 24-26: God handed them over, they turned the truth of God into a lie, and God turned them over. Then the rest of the chapter is spent in describing the consequences of God having turned them over. Then, in ch. 2, Paul turns on the Jews who were reading all this and patting themselves on the back. Once again, the pervasiveness of sin does not excuse it, and the thief cannot judge the homosexual without hypocrisy. The solution is not to pretend that neither theft nor homosexuality is sin, but to admit both are, and to abstain from both.

Relentless, God Didn't Say That 8 Comments [3/24/2019 1:19:10 PM]
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Quote# 142942

(=Context:The site linked is based around studing and talking about translation errors in the Bible=)

Let not any verse teach what another passage blatantly contradicts. The harmony of Scripture is one of the reasons it’s claims of inspiration is justified. Simply stated, we are not to interject man’s interpretation but rather study to find the divine interpretation. How is this done you ask? Harmony of scripture is one such way.
God DID expressly condemn homosexuality of any gender. Both in the Old law and the new.
Lev. 18:22. And Romans 1:24-27. Just to name 2. There are dozens more references but these prove the point well.
To offer up such a unsupported and misguided theory of interpretation shows your lack of understanding of God’s word.
1 john 4:1 “Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.”
One way to test the spirits is by harmony of scripture. If I pose an interpretation that contradicts the bible, I am at fault not the bible. I must align to its truth not manipulate it to meet my personal desires whatever they are.
I pray you will repent of this false and misleading interpretation that will cost many who believe you to loose their souls.

Rick, God Didn't Say That 4 Comments [3/24/2019 1:19:07 PM]
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Quote# 142941

Deeply ?

As The Phantom put it further below, a priest was stabbed in the middle of mass in the biggest Catholic church in his country, and there’s no news or reports of the perp. It’s like they’re suddenly cracking down on any mention of Muslim atrocity anywhere.

I’m not in the LEAST bit sympathetic to the Rohingya. Frankly, I’m of the opinion they pushed the Buddhists too far, and now the Buddhists are no longer willing to listen to reason and are hell bent on genocide.

And frankly, since that’s what the Muslims generally go for once they reach a certain percentage of population in a country as religiously mandated protocol I don’t feel that the response they’ve gotten is unjustified

I used to write about this regularly back in my Livejournal days (I’m sure Foxfier and Mary remember ’em… How often would I do a round-up? Almost daily?) and stopped because it got to a point where I felt that warning the West / Dar al-Harb again and again and again was pointless, and it’d simply going to be a matter of waiting until the scales were tipped and crashed on the ground. Because things like this ‘happened over there’, it was easy to dismiss that things like this even happened at all, there was a constant sense of ‘but our governments won’t let that happen; our police will protect us, our military will defend us…’

And we’re seeing exactly how ‘defended’ the people are in Germany, in Europe, in Canada. Short of One Nation suddenly getting more power than ever before, I doubt Australia will survive either, but likely will fracture into individual states.

So yeah, while the media may have gotten ‘what they wanted’ in the NZ shooter, and are happy to play the pawns to what he wanted, this doesn’t mean that people aren’t paying attention. And frankly, since the media/Left haven’t gotten more of what they wanted, they’re pushing a crackdown on civil rights for non-Leftists everywhere… like he wanted…

So I guess is, what do we do now? I’m of the opinion, frankly that there’ll be more of the same ‘massaging’ of content that we’ve seen in FB and Twitter and other net-hosting. There’ll be more muzzling of conservatives and alternatives to ‘approved’ media and discussion places.

I guess there’s always the Dark Web – for now- but that would require building a place for discussion there.

But what do I know? I’m just someone out the back of beyond, borderline conspiracy theorist, not liking what she’s seeing (things are escalating, every warning of ‘not safe not safe’ going off…)

Shadowdancer Duskstar, According to Hoyt 3 Comments [3/24/2019 1:19:04 PM]
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Submitted By: yamamanama

Quote# 142940

[From "Brenton Tarrant was a Uniformed Partisan Fighting an Occupying Force"]

In Brenton Tarrant’s manifesto, he acknowledges that the act was technically terrorism, by the accepted definition of the term. But he argues that he is actually a partisan, fighting back against an occupying force.

Though the definitions of “terrorist” and “partisan” are such that there is a lot of overlap and one could probably be considered both at the same time (especially given that the definition of the former is broad and vague), the bottom line is that a terrorist is an illegitimate combatant and a partisan is a legitimate combatant. Tarrant made a concerted effort to ensure that he meets the definition of a partisan.

In the Q&A section, Tarrant writes:

Do you consider it a terrorist attack?

By the definition, then yes. It is a terrorist attack. But I believe it is a partisan action against an occupying force.


Further, he states plainly what his defense will be at trial:

If you survived, did you intend to go to trial?

Yes, and to plead not guilty. The attack was a partisan action against [an] occupying force, and I am a lawful, uniformed combatant.


A partisan is defined thusly:

A member of an armed group formed to fight secretly against an occupying force, in particular one operating in enemy-occupied Yugoslavia, Italy, and parts of eastern Europe in World War II.


Wikipedia has the historical context of the concept pre-WWII:

The initial concept of partisan warfare involved the use of troops raised from the local population in a war zone (or in some cases regular forces) who would operate behind enemy lines to disrupt communications, seize posts or villages as forward-operating bases, ambush convoys, impose war taxes or contributions, raid logistical stockpiles, and compel enemy forces to disperse and protect their base of operations.


Under international law, no distinction is made between a soldier and a partisan, and a partisan is considered a soldier so long as he meets four requirements:
• There is someone at the head of the organisation, who assumes liability
• They can be identified by a sign or mark, which is visible from far away
• They carry their weapons openly
• They adhere to the customs and laws of war, during their operation

Though Brenton was not a member of an organization, he assumed liability for his own actions. He also included a section in his manifesto about contacting the reborn Knights Templar, the group of Anders Breivik, and getting their blessing, which I suspect he included to fulfill the first requirement.

He wore a uniform with a visible military insignia.

[Black sun emblem on his clothes]

And he carried his weapons openly.

People would try to argue that he did not adhere to the customs and laws of war, which are defined by the Hague Conventions of 1899 and 1907, because he attacked unarmed persons. However, the fact that the mosque he attacked had been caught recruiting terrorists means that it qualifies as a military base and could thus be considered a legitimate military target.

Unsurprisingly, Jewish partisans who fought against the Nazis on the Eastern Front have been celebrated as heroes, despite the fact that they were engaged in terroristic tactics that violated the laws and customs of war.

So the real world difference in definition between a terrorist and a partisan is thus:
• A partisan must be fighting in his own lands against a foreign force, whereas a terrorist is either fighting against his own people or the government of a foreign power
• In order to be considered a partisan instead of a terrorist, you have to win

The argument of the current Western globalist regime is that the Moslems of Christchurch are “New Zealanders” because they live there, and thus a white man fighting them is fighting against his own people. Because the governments of our countries are a completely autocratic, authoritarian force, they are not under any obligation for their assertions to make any sense.

Right now, it is looking as though the government of New Zealand is planning to do some kind of secret trial for Brenton Tarrant, who has said that he will be representing himself in court.

[...]

We shouldn’t apologize for Brenton Tarrant or the many more who will inevitably follow him with similar acts. Nor should we ever endorse them. However, because we have no ability to stop these events from happening, we have no choice but to deal with them, in the same way that the government and media cannot stop Moslem terrorist attacks but can only manage the public perception of them in the larger context of society.

Andrew Anglin, Daily Stormer 15 Comments [3/22/2019 5:11:13 PM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 142939

And This Barbaric Ideology of Islam and Muslims are suppose to be "the religion of Peace"? Wake up America! Go back to your Bible and read it again and again!

Debbie Autry-Skubik, Facebook 18 Comments [3/22/2019 5:08:23 PM]
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Quote# 142938

Something to Consider...in addition to the Apology

Recently, I issued an Apology to the unique users (not trolls, not bots, not socks and not psychologically insane individuals) I disappointed at the beginning of my journey here on Disqus. After careful consideration, I think that maybe I should let anyone who was personally affected know that I am open to reconciliation (and possibly lifting their ban). This is not an invitation for trolls to return, and I would strongly encourage anyone who would consider returning to please read our Community Guidelines before they make a decision. I also strongly recommend that they read Purpose: Faith & Religion. We are uncompromising Conservative Christians. Our community is peaceful and we intend to keep it that way. We do not pander, we do not seek trending status nor to be popular with the world. We are messengers, watchmen and servants of God here to fellowship, enjoy a few laughs, encourage one another in Christ and share truth with a lost and dying world. If you'd like to be a part of that, I am in no position to deny you-especially if you are a member of the body of Christ. And, if you aren't a believer, but can comply with our guidelines and accept that we only promote Jesus Christ here-then come on in and sit a spell :).

Seriously, if you are interested in returning, please tag me and I will respond. Unfortunately, if you were extremely abusive to me, I may have blocked you as well as banned you, but if you can reach out I am willing to attempt to reconcile...no guarantees, but I am willing to engage in a one-on-one exchange and if nothing else, seek peace with you even if returning is not possible.

DISCLAIMER:
*I am more protective of the brethren than I am of myself. If you abused one of my brothers or sisters in Christ (or a friend of mine), then I will not get involved. That hurt more than when I was targeted and abused. But, if it was me you abused, I am willing to forgive and consider lifting the ban IF you can comply with our:
Community Guidelines
Purpose: Faith & Religion.
**I will not override another mod's decision.
***I will not respond to trolls, socks, bots nor anyone seeking to troll and/or harass. In the spirit of transparency, I am not comfortable responding to anyone who wished death on me or accused me of raping them by deleting their comment(s). This invitation is not meant for serial abusers or those seeking to hurt and defame others. If you can't comply with our purpose and guidelines, then our community is not a good fit for you. We are a Christian conservative community by design.

Don't forget to RECOMMEND. Lets get the Truth out so that Light may shine bright in this dark place and Jesus Christ may be glorified and the captives may be set free in Jesus name. Even if the discussion is closed, please still RECOMMEND.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - Faith & Religion 11 Comments [3/22/2019 5:08:10 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 142937

When Jesus comes back
By Patsy Lambert - Contributing Columnist

When Jesus comes back, all evil will be destroyed. There will be no more war and no more fighting. A lot of people don't want to believe in the return of Jesus. Some don't even believe in Jesus.

It will be a sad day for all the ones that don't believe, when Jesus does return.

The first time He destroyed with water, the next time will be with fire.

"But the heaven and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men." 2 Peter 3:7.

For the believer there will be everlasting joy.

"Therefore the redeemed of the Lord shall return, and come with singing unto Zion: and everlasting joy shall be upon their head: they shall obtain gladness and joy; and sorrow and mourning shall flee away." Isaiah 51:11.

Until that day with anticipation we wait for the blessed appearing of our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ.

"And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye, may be also." John 14:3.

Are you ready for His return? Because Jesus is coming back.

Patsy Lambert, Newberry Observer 14 Comments [3/22/2019 5:07:20 PM]
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Submitted By: Thanos6

Quote# 142929

This is America today—queers getting married (no such thing in God's eyes), queers legally adopting children (the ultimate child abuse), millions of children are still being murdered every year by abortion, women walking around in sensual attire (whores every one), greedy companies ripping people off left and right, churches fully endorsing corrupt Satanic Bible perversions, and God only knows what other ungodliness lurks behind the scenes across this no longer great nation! We need a bunch more Pastor Fred Phelps, reminding Americans why we deserve to suffer God's judgment, and burn in Hell for our wickedness!!! Why shouldn't God damn this wicked nation? I am praying for it with all my heart and mind! Please Russia, nuke this arrogant land of The Great Satan!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 21 Comments [3/22/2019 5:02:47 PM]
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Quote# 142928

[A baby was born with a partially developed twin inside her. The twin has been surgically removed due to its nonviable state.]

gsaobg: Doctors fixed God's mistake.

wvpioneer49: Wrong. God is perfect in every way and does not have the ability to make mistakes. Look up why does God allow birth defects. God gave the Doctors the ability to help this baby. Most of us do not have what it takes to be Doctors

gsaobg: God created birth defects so that doctors get opportunities to fix those?

wvpioneer49: God did not create birth defects sin did. All started with Adam and Eve when they sinned.When they sinned they brought death, disease and ect in to the world. Do a little research you will understand

gsaobg: Adam and Eve story has been debunked.....no one is born with s!n.....the original s!n story is circulated to convert you into Christianity under threat....

wvpioneer49: Proof and source

gsaobg: biology and genetic studies have proved that there was never a first human man and woman....humans evolved as a group....

wvpioneer49: Sounds like you do not believe in God or believe what you want. Here is you evolution and your big band. I replied this to someone awhile back: "The evolutionist say that all life started from a single cell. If this was the case there would be just one species on earth. But there isn't there are multiple species on earth. So every species has to be created separately which is creation. If you want more info on creation read at least Genesis chapter 1 and 2"

gsaobg: species change with time through evolution......it has nothing to do whether there is God or not ....Bible genesis story has been debunked....

wvpioneer49: If you do not believe in Genesis you do not believe in God and you do not believe what the bible says.

Goddoesnotexist God created sin .

ahr2736: Deuteronomy 23:1 says, “No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the Lord.”

wvpioneer49: That is Old Testament. We are under the New Testament. Another words we are not under the old law.

gsaobg: so no more 10 commandments?

wvpioneer49: Jesus gave two new commandments
Matthew 22:36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

gsaobg: that's fine....but what about the OT ten commandments? are they still valid?

wvpioneer49: If we follow the two commandments we follow all ten. Think about it like this If we love others we will not steal, lie, murder and ect. If we love God. We will not worship other gods and ect.

gsaobg: so OT 10 commandments are still valid....then why not Deuteronomy 23:1? do we now have to pick and choose OT laws?

wvpioneer49: Jesus made it easier. Jesus came to fulfill the old law. If we are still under the old law we would still be sacrificing animals for our sins. Jesus fulfilled the old covenant and the beginning of the new. That is why Jesus came and died so we would not have to sacrifice. Jesus died for our sins. that is why we follow Jesus We must accept Him as our Lord and Savior to get to heaven.

gsaobg: if we are not under the old law anymore, then no more 10 commandments.....from what you said so far it seems that you are uncomfortable with some of the OT laws and want to pick and choose to keep the good ones and reject the bad ones.......

wvpioneer49, Fox News 12 Comments [3/22/2019 5:02:24 PM]
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Submitted By: Pax Prosperitas Sophia

Quote# 142927

The Calendar and the Clock



(TRANSCRIPTION - A photo of Rod Serling. The caption is: "There is a land that scholars refer to as God's Calendar. For us has it given The Good Book (sic).
It's (sic) prophesies reliably portend earth's proximity to zero hour. As most carry on by the clock, they seek a land they can use as hour and minute hands. It was variously called the shining city on the hill, the world's policeman, a great exporter of missionaries. Now it's the greatest exporter of smut. We're due for a time check, somewhere east of The Twilight Zone.)

In the most morally bankrupt society on earth, home to the world's most corrupt government, the ever-shrinking list of taboos just got shorter. What's the harm in incest? ask those purported experts on psychology, as long as it doesn't result in a pregnancy. That caveat, of course, will soon go the way of all the others.

Dumbed-down youth are at last electing their own to high office. These mental pygmies must pander to an increasingly ignorant base clamoring for free stuff but terrified of free speech. Witness the death of Fox News after its takeover by Disney. The sacred cow of Islam is off limits, as a conservative hostess discovered. That viewers are leaving in droves hardly matters to the ultra-liberal owners; the real goal was shutting down the last remaining source of accurate TV news.

Herewith a brief look at a typical CNN household.
DAD All the kid does is make those hand dolls--a dozen of them each day.
TODDLER Buppet! Zock! Zock buppet!
MOM Is it time to call the doctor?
DAD Waste of money. Every gene pool has its dead ends.
MOM Where did we go wrong?
DAD Quiet--Don Lemon has the latest dirt on Trump.



(TRANSCRIPTION next to another photo of Serling: "There is a book which speaks of strong delusion for those who abhor the truth. For them, what remains is the fluff and lies of the Moscow Media. Grandchildren of those Soviet-era handlers follow the party line like lemmings to their much-awaited communist utopia. It won't end as they hope, because this is a doomed society whose time is nearly up. This...is The Twilight Zone.)

Mick Williams, Disqus - Faith & Religion 12 Comments [3/22/2019 5:00:57 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Content warning: Parental torture of children

Quote# 142926

Creator of YouTube channel abused 7 adopted children who starred in videos watched by millions, police say

An Arizona woman's seven adopted children were a hit performing on her YouTube channel “Fantastic Adventures” -- which had nearly 800,000 followers -- but behind the camera, the 48-year-old woman beat the kids, doused them with pepper spray and locked them in a closet for days without food, water or bathroom access, according to court documents.

Machelle Hackney was arrested last Friday at her home in Maricopa — where the alleged abuse of her adopted children occurred — on charges of child molestation, child abuse, unlawful punishment and child neglect. Hackney’s two sons, Logan and Ryan Hackney, were also arrested for failing to report the abuse of a minor, FOX10 Phoenix reported.

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The children, who were removed from the home, later detailed to investigators the alleged torture they endured in the house, including being drenched in pepper spray from head-to-toe, spanked and forced to take ice baths, FOX10 reported. Hackney would allegedly dunk the children’s head underwater when they disobeyed, and forced them to stand in the corner with their arms raised above their head for several hours.

“I either get beat with a hanger or belt, or a brush, or get pepper-sprayed from head to toe,” one of the children told police, according to court documents.

Authorities said the adopted children haven’t been in school for years because Hackney needed them for her popular YouTube videos, which had more than 250 million views by Wednesday. The children said Hackney would discipline them if they didn’t remember their lines or perform the way she wanted.

On the “Fantastic Adventures” YouTube channel that began in 2012, the children were painted in a vastly different light while acting out elaborate 10-to 15-minute skits. They’re spotted sometimes eating, talking about homework, playing games in a fantasy world concocted by Hackney. The show’s Instagram page also showed pictures of the children smiling, and in a February post, spoke about a girl’s journey from foster care to Hackney’s house.

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YouTube said in a statement to the Arizona Republic that Hackney’s channel was demonetized following her arrest. The channel will be taken down if she is convicted or pleads guilty to the felony charges.

"We take safety on YouTube very seriously," the statement read. "We work closely with leading child safety organizations and others in our industry to protect young people. When we’re made aware of serious allegations of this nature we take action, which may include suspending monetization, or, upon conclusion of an investigation, terminating channels."



Ryguy101: But behind the camera, the 48-year-old woman beat the kids, doused them with pepper spray and locked them in a closet for days without food, water or bathroom access. All aborted babies would rather live in this household than be killed is the story we should also be telling.

Machelle Hackney and Ryguy101, Fox News 7 Comments [3/22/2019 4:56:20 PM]
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Submitted By: Pax Prosperitas Sophia

Quote# 142925

(responding to a post on her channel called "The Silencing of the Lambs", link goes here:
https://onenewsnow.com/perspectives/michael-brown/2019/03/21/the-silencing-of-the-lambs?utm_source=OneNewsNow&utm_medium=email&utm_term=16793253&utm_content=68268707811810616&utm_campaign=38366

Lady Checkmate:
AuntiE*TFL, its like you've taken a page out of our history here on DISQUS. I have chills just thinking about the door you just opened for us by posting this OP. I've been trying to find the right time and way to share with everyone here how insane, violent, hateful and obsessed the radical-left is with conservative Christians. They hate us and they stalk us to find ways and opportunities to act on their hate.

AuntiE, if it's ok with you, I would like to share examples of their hateful, obsessive stalking, threats, intimidation tactics and attempts to silence us. These are real life examples that have happened here on DISQUS. I ask your permission because this is your thread and I don't want to derail it. I can always start a separate thread, if you prefer. No hard feelings either way????.

P. S. I will not post his most vulgar posts like his porn, violence, threats, etc., if you agree.

I'm very familiar with the tactics of the alt-left. They were tried here, on me. This is not sympathy-shopping. I need to obey God and get the truth out-hopefully equipping others to face the persecution that is surely coming to all believers. This is me sharing examples of what their MO looks like when it's played out irl. It saddens me when I hear that "Christian" forums are hosting blasphemy, mockings, heresy and that which is not right in God's eyes for fear of being "trolled" and persecuted. I would prefer to please God than to compromise and be a man-pleaser; nevertheless, I love the brethren and continue to pray for them. I'm doing this for all of us.

Initially, it came as a surprise. I (along with a couple of other mods-who are better at modding than me btw) mod a small community of channels. Our community hosts mostly Christian Conservatives, traditional conservatives and a few liberals. All are welcome as long as they comply with our community guidelines. At some point, I had to ban an alt-left troll that was blaspheming, mocking God, and wanted to use our community to promote sin and abominations. He then warned me that he would, "be a proverbial thorn in my side". I shook the dust from my feet. I figured there are many channels on DISQUS, he'll move on and find one that's a good fit for him. He came back with dozens of sock accounts...all of which were promptly banned as socks violate our community guidelines and DISQUS ToS. He initiated his first level of attack...

By ridicule:
He started with personal insults (b-word, c-word, questioning my faith because I'm a bible-believing, conservative Christian, etc.,), more blasphemy, more mocking what we believe (all of which violated our community guidelines), with many lies peppered in and he was repeatedly sanctioned. He refused to comply with our community guidelines, refused to comply with Disqus ToS and refused to honor the sanctions. He increased his sock and bot usage. He formally notified me that he would be targeting me, stalking me, harassing me and encouraging others to do the same:



I continued to obey God. He increased his trolling, sock and bot usage and peppered in something about "slander" and "burden of proof" in the comment above, as if he were preparing for a legal battle-perhaps this was his way of trying to intimidate me or convince me that he had the legal right to target, threaten and harass me (implying he might have the upper hand in any legal battle). In the process, he informed me that our community guidelines were "worthless to him".:



I continued to operate our community as I said I would. It seems he felt his trolling-war tactic had given him the upper hand and he could get me to obey him and give in to his demands. He then "urged" me to read a comment of his barking orders at me and issuing ultimatums that I had to bow to him OR he would continue to troll me:



I chose to live on my feet, obeying God rather than bow before him. When I ignored his demand and ultimatum, he sent me a comment in which he thanked his socks and bots for helping him target and harass me and he included a reminder to me to obey him or continue to be trolled and harassed:



When I ignored his reminder as well, he addressed the fact that I was "ignoring" him and indicated he felt he'd won a victory of some sort through trolling and harassing me:



By legal action & by expulsion
He began rallying others to help him get a petition to started to have me banned and our Conservative Christian community closed. Make no mistake, he wanted me expelled because I would not bow to him and his demands and he hates the fact that Christian conservatives (who don't want to be hounded, vexed, harassed and dogged by trolls) have a safe space here to fellowship in peace. I chose to honor God. He began to post his calls for my expulsion and our community's closure all over DISQUS, including in our community:





He literally went all over DISQUS, on different channels, claiming he was getting a petition together to have me removed and our community closed. When a mod told him that wouldn't happen and he had no grounds to have me removed, he stated he hoped I was "scared".

By exclusion
When he failed to have me removed as a mod and our channels closed, he began trying to exclude my communities from the trending list via mass down-voting and decided that he'd just try to keep others from commenting in our community and use his troll channel to tell other users not to post here:





It's really important that we point out that when he failed to get me to obey him, failed to troll me into submission, he started in with the death wishes, death fantasies and death threats (those are on file with the authorities). The alt-left does not tolerate opinions that differ from theirs.

Please do not overlook that he uses different sock accounts/user names to circumvent his sanctions-violating the DISQUS ToS and our community guidelines to stalk and harass me, but expects AND actually demands that I obey him and entertain his trolling or continue to be trolled. The alt-left is manipulative, hateful, conniving liars who will use threats, deception, ultimatums and intimidation in their attempt to control the thoughts, beliefs, and even speech/comments of Christian conservatives. This is not a game. These people are strategic in how they approach targeting, stalking, harassing and trying to destroy Conservative Christians, Christian business owners, Christian places of worship and anyone who stands against their anti-christ agenda. This is one of their new forms of persecution. Watch and pray.

*I intentionally blocked the inappropriate parts of his comments: lies, spam links, profanity, etc. My intent was to show the insanity in their actions, not allow trolls a platform to continue to harass and troll.

Thank you again, AuntiE*TFL (AuntiE*TFL). We have to get the truth out so that others experiencing this form of persecution know whats going on and how to respond. I apologize for the length.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - Faith & Religion 11 Comments [3/22/2019 4:52:54 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 142922

[Post title: Who Can Relate?]



why would you hate gay people? we should advocate for a white atheist society where we accept everyone except more violent cultures than ours


Heliocentric: Homosexuality is violent in its corruption and hostility to children.

That isn't inherent to homosexuality


Captain_Raamsley: Yes it is you dolt. The slope was slipped a long fucking time ago and you cannot deny it.

Faggotry is a perversion and should be treated like one. Catholic pedophile priests who molest young boys? Yeah they started out as simple faggots.

Same with the pedophiliacs of the political elite, they started out as gay/bisexual.

Heliocentric and Captain_Raamsley, /r/CringeAnarchy 12 Comments [3/22/2019 4:47:52 PM]
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Quote# 142921

The LGBT movement is a eugenics agenda under the guise of tolerance.

monom90, /r/CringeAnarchy 8 Comments [3/22/2019 4:46:37 PM]
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Quote# 142920

Why don't the gays get deported because they're the infestation to begin with

You're sick. If you said that to my face I'd kick your ass


The infestation of gays being deported instead of the homophobes makes it easier because america’s composed of 4.5% LGBT while being 60% homophobes meaning that it’s much faster and takes less effort to ship away the termites than the homophobes. Then again I’m not really expecting any of the left to be able to comprehend the numbers and logics I’m proposing here.

We're not an infestation why would you call us that


Because being gay was never supposed to be a thing; men were to be with women and anyone who had trouble with following those guidelines simply isn’t following the reason why we are here: to procreate. And also the reason why gay rights were even a thing was proposed by the same president who fucked up and put America into debt. And personally for me they just blow up the societal standards of masculinity and it disgusts me.

So I should be killed for being something I can't control?


Nono, moved to the island. And for me I believe that therapy works. But the thing about therapy is that the person should be willing to, well, change. Someone can’t go to therapy and come out with a different mindset if they come in stubborn and unwilling to change.

BIackRogue, /r/UnpopularOpinion 7 Comments [3/22/2019 4:46:21 PM]
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Quote# 142894

Right-wing pastor and radio host E.W. Jackson spent most of his “The Awakening” program today ranting and railing against Islam. At one point, Jackson trotted out the favorite Religious Right talking point that Islam is not even a religion but is rather a totalitarian ideology that is entirely incompatible with our laws and our Constitution.

Jackson insisted that, by contrast, Christians “don’t have any difficulty adhering to the laws of the land” … and then proceeded to undermine his entire argument.

“Christians put the law of God above the law of man,” Jackson admitted, insisting that this position could never be a source of conflict because “proper laws are always consistent with God’s law.”

“Our whole legal system is rooted and grounded in Judeo-Christian law,” he said. “Because our laws and mores are rooted and grounded in Christian principles, we don’t have any difficulty, most of the time, adhering to the laws of the land.”

Jackson then managed to completely undercut his own argument as he began to rail against the Supreme Court for refusing to hear a case involving the owner of a bed-and-breakfast who is being sued for refusing, for religious reasons, to rent a room to a lesbian couple.

“Can I just be perfectly blunt?” Jackson said. “Why in the world should Christians who have spent their time, their energy, their money, their prayers to buy a little bitty bed-and-breakfast with three rooms for guests be forced by the law to have two old, big strapping men go up in one of their rooms and have sex? Now that’s disgusting! Or two women? In a place that they probably prayed over and dedicated to God and said, ‘God use this place for your glory, use it bless people and to encourage people and to comfort people and to help people.’ And they put their time, their energy, their money into it and then you’ve got the law come along and say, ‘Yeah, you’ve got to let two homosexuals go into one of those rooms and do whatever they do.'”

“Why should that be forced upon two people, or on anybody, who spent their time, their energy, their money, and their prayers, and their tears to build something that they wanted to be God-glorifying and then have somebody tell them, ‘Well, we don’t care what you built it for, we’re going to force you to have people come in here who will simply defile the place?'” Jackson fumed. “And I said it and I mean it! This will be a defilement of the place that [was] blessed and dedicated to God. And no, it’s not happening!”

Jackson said that “homosexuals basically are trying to intimidate and cow Christians into bowing to their will” before declaring that Christians will give up their lives rather than adhere to any earthly law that violates the laws of God.

“We’re not bowing,” he vowed. “They can do whatever they want to do. We’re not bowing … We Christians are never going to bow down. Never! You’ll have to kill us, but we won’t bow.”

E.W. Jackson, Right Wing Watch 9 Comments [3/22/2019 4:35:11 PM]
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Submitted By: Kuyohashi

Quote# 142804

Commenting on story "Mother Of 11-Year-Old 'Drag Kid' Who Performed At Gay Bar Says Child Protective Services Showed Up At Her Home" (story here: https://www.dailywire.com/news/44631/mother-11-year-old-drag-kid-who-performed-gay-bar-amanda-prestigiacomo)

Lady Checkmate:
Fyi - Desmond is autistic, his parents are unemployed and his stripping (and possible prostitution) pays his family's/parent's bills. God help us. http://thejewishlady.com/desmond-is-amazing-debacle-child-abuse-exploitation/

Robin Egg:
They determined there were no laws broken. Can you believe that? Of course, it is New York and well........

Lady Checkmate:
It's definitely hard to believe. It kind of reminds me of Justin Berry, but Justin's parents weren't aware of him creating child pornography and prostituting himself to homosexual men. Pedophiles are determined to legalize child-rape. They are grooming that boy to be raped by the same homosexual men that are throwing money at him while he dances and strips for them and the boy's parents are onboard (smh). That child is being constantly exposed to sexually charged men, obscene behavior, and more than likely propositioned regularly by those same men. It's wrong! Shame on them!!! They will all answer to God. A child should not have been dancing and stripping for grown men (NAMBLA members?), grown men who tipped the child money the more risqué his performance.



Lady Checkmate, Disqus - Faith & Religion 5 Comments [3/22/2019 4:16:33 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 142789

aCultureWarrior:
Perverts have told sexually/gender confused children that they're born that way and that they can't change, in fact they're doing their best to pass laws from keeping loving parents from seeking psychological and spiritual help from trained professionals for their confused child. Being that the major icons of the LGBT movement were pedophiles or pederasts and/or openly supported pedophilia (Harry Hay, Frank Kameny, Harvey Milk, Terry Bean, Ed Murray, Peter Tatchell, etc. etc. etc.) for those of us who have studied your LGBT movement, we see what the final goal is: Keeping the perverse and ever so evil LGBT movement alive as well as the legalization of adult-child sex.

Ian:
I'm sure most homosexuals have spent time with a psychologist during their "confused" or emerging stages and were told eventually that there's nothing wrong with them, they are simply homosexual. It's not perverts telling them anything. It's professionals helping them accept themselves.
And no, there is no group, at least not one that is taken seriously, who wants to see children abused sexually. But now you've changed subjects because you're talking about pedophilia and not homosexuality - two totally different subjects. The list you give above are hardly luminaries in the field of homosexuality.

aCultureWarrior:
Since homosexual/pedophile Frank Kameny and his homosexual associates coerced the American Psychiatric Association into removing homosexuality from it's list of mental disorders, the vast majority of so-called "therapists" are homosexual affirming, i.e. they won't help their sexually confused clients find a way out of their homosexual 'deathstyle' (in some States, by law they can't).
As shown, practically all, if not all homosexual icons were/are pedophiles or promoted pedophilia, and the sexualization of children plays a major part of the homosexual agenda.
Adult-child sex is a huge part of the homosexual culture as well. You can't separate homosexuality and pedophilia because pedophilia in the vast majority of cases is what caused a person's homosexual desires. Let's not forget that according to your LGBT movement "You should be allowed to love who you love."
Oh and Ian, please don't think that I'm here to convince you of anything, I'm here to expose you so that others will take lawful actions against you and your movements evil ways.

Ian:
Homosexuality is homosexuality. Pedophilia is pedophilia. Find me a single gay rights organization pushing to have children sexually abused. You won't find any because there aren't any.

aCultureWarrior:
Atta boy Ian, play the queen of denial like you were taught from reading "After the Ball: How America Will Conquer its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the 90s". If you need me to show you what aspect of society the homosexual agenda HASN'T permeated, I won't be able to because they've even permeated something as sacred as the Church.
I recently posted in my WHMBR Part 5! thread about how there are pedophiles in the APA's, one of them being Dutch homosexual/pedophile Theo Sandfort. Let's not forget that the American Psychiatric Association somewhat recently wanted to remove pedophilia from it's list of mental disorders and only reneged when conservative watchdog groups exposed them.
'Gay pride parades'? Can you think of a better venue to indoctrinate children to accepting the ways of perverts?
Drag Queen story time: Children sit in a public library listening to homosexuals dressed up like women talking about all kinds of filth.
I could go on and on by talking about how homosexuals were responsible for legalizing child pornography is Sweden several years back, but I've made my point.
Play dumb all that you want Ian, but your movement has been exposed for the child indoctrinators/molesters that they are. BTW, have I mentioned that homosexual activists founded the North American Man Boy Love Association and the UK's Pedophile Information Exchange (P.I.E.)?
They likez em young don't they Ian?

aCultureWarrior, Christian News Network 6 Comments [3/22/2019 4:12:52 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 142918

Fundies Say the Darndest Things (FSTDT) is a liberal mockery website that is a haven for apostasy, feminism, heresy, homosexual behavior, and the lust of the flesh. The site engages in demonic glorification, gloating, arrogance, pride, and otherwise reprehensible behavior. Unsavory comments allude to desiring carnal relationships, and they have a love affair for Darwinism and they tolerate Taylor Swift the evil harlot succubus. There is no substance on the site, no research, no biblical values, and no other redeeming qualities whatsoever.

This website plagiarizes and ridicules content produced by SimplyChristian. They also vandalize our site to include liberal propaganda.

External links

DO NOT VISIT IF UNDER 18:VULGAR CONTENT WARNING

Steven R., SimplyChristian 37 Comments [3/21/2019 12:44:09 AM]
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Quote# 142917

Plagiarism is the act of copying another's work as one's own. it is a common liberal trait.

The mockery site Fundies Say the Darndest Things commonly plagiarizes from many sources, including New Testament Baptist Church.

Steven R., SimplyChristian 21 Comments [3/21/2019 12:44:05 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 142916

Autism is a fake disability that involves people living off the government dole. Many atheists have it, including those on liberal tabloids like Irrationalwiki and Fundies Say the Darndest Things. A synonym for autism is workshyness.

Steven R., SimplyChristian 21 Comments [3/21/2019 12:43:58 AM]
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