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Quote# 137694

Fags are unsanitary mentally ill fucks. That's not a joke, but it's offensive and yet true.


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Why do you and other idiots want to turn things into things they're not? I stated a fact. It wasn't an attempt to be edgy, nor to get under your skin, nor anything other than a statement of fact. Oh, maybe that's it. You can't let it be a fact. You want to make it into something that you can react against.

Kube Dog, YouTube 9 Comments [4/5/2018 8:12:16 AM]
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Quote# 137692

“Nobody writes a book on the correct way of parenting,” Sharron Dobbins explained to ABC 15 Arizona this week, shortly after her release from jail on a felony child abuse charge.

It’s true — there is no instruction manual for raising two teenage sons. But as Dobbins, 40, told a reporter on her Phoenix front lawn, she had certain parental tips and tricks.

She had the Bible, for example, and the verse she recited often to her sons: “Honor thy mother and father, or their days will be shortened.”

And on a particularly frustrating Easter Sunday morning, as she tried to get the 17-year-old ready for church, she had her Taser handy, too.

“I said, ‘Get up! It’s Jesus day!’ ” Dobbins recalled to ABC 15.

Easter services at Greater New Zion Missionary Baptist Church had started at sunrise that day. But nearly two hours later, the teenager insisted on staying home with his friends, Dobbins said.

“He said some cuss words at me,” she told Fox 10 Phoenix. “He said that his friends don’t have to go anywhere.”

The boy was no stranger to trouble, Dobbins would later tell a court; he wore an ankle bracelet and was under her legal custody.

So by way of convincing him that he needed to be in church, Dobbins said, she fetched her Taser and stood with it in her son’s bedroom.

This is where the mother’s story begins to depart from a police report obtained by 3TV/CBS 5. Dobbins said she merely sparked the device while standing in the bedroom doorway, as a warning.

“I didn’t touch him at all,” she told Fox 10. “I made the sound with the Taser.”

But according to the police report, which cites both of Dobbins’s sons and their cousin as witnesses, the mother zapped the 17-year-old on his leg, leaving two small marks as evidence.

“He was like, ‘Mom! I’m calling the police,’ ” Dobbins told ABC 15. “I say, ‘You can call the police, UPS, DPS. Whoever you want to call.”

The boy made good on his threat. While waiting for police to arrive, Dobbins said, she lectured the 911 dispatcher on the meaning of Easter.

“I told her, ‘You need to be with Jesus right now.‘ ”

Instead, Dobbins ended up on her lawn with an officer, who after speaking to the boys informed her she would be charged with child abuse.

Sharron Dobbins, Washington Post 26 Comments [4/4/2018 2:13:15 PM]
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Quote# 137691

BabaSege: My views aren't based on "strident denial". They are as well reasoned and well researched as any other. Darwinian Evolution is nonsensical on a mathematical, molecular biochemical and molecular biomechanical basis. Without the purposeful direction of outside forces, evolution's postulations are scientific impossibilities. Intelligent Design has a lot more going for it scientifically than Darwinian Evolution ever can, on its best day and Biblical Creationism, is simply ONE paradigm for ID. Really? You want to bring the unimaginable complexity and purposeful information characteristics of DNA into a debate about Evolution vs ID?Forget it ... I'm laughing already!!!!

Brent Cantwell: BabaSege, you'll forgive us if we doubt that your strident "there is no evidence for evolution" malarkey a "well reasoned, well researched" conclusion on your part. "Darwinian Evolution is nonsensical on a mathematical, molecular biochemical and molecular biomechanical basis." Redundancy aside, the fact that mention mathematics suggests to me that you don't actually know anything about evolution and instead are just parroting Creationists talking points. "Without the purposeful direction of outside forces, evolution's postulations are scientific impossibilities." Yeah, you definitely don't know what you're talking about.

BabaSege: I know a lot about what I'm talking about. That's the difference between us. I limit my comments to what I do know and what has and can be evidenced scientifically rather than purely on faith grounds, on various sides of the debate.bJust Google Intelligent Design for more info (make sure you go down the back pages the search engines don't really want you to get to where the good stuff is!).

Dan Eastwood: Bluster will get you nowhere. Show us this math you understand so well. Fair warning, I know a bit of math myself.

BabaSege: I absolutely don't need to. Like I said above, don't be lazy and Google ID! The research is there. ID is much more authentic science than Darwinian evolution.

Dan Eastwood: Do not need to, or unable to? I am quite familiar with the arguments for IDC. The entire premise is based on a tacit Bayesian prior assumption that allows no other possibility. IDC is not science at all, but only circular reasoning. Work out the Bayes Factor for yourself, and you will see what I mean. For more detailed mathematical arguments, I refer you to Elsberry and Shallit (2011), Devine (2014), and Rosenhouse (2016).

BabaSege: I repeat, I don't need to. ID is both science and theory, in certain aspects.
However, it's assumptions are logical and scientific, in stark contrast to Darwinian evolution which is dying a death of a thousand cuts. Many self respecting scientists have abandoned it. The more information and knowledge we acquire about the universe and cosmos, the more nonsensical evolution becomes as a credible explanation for it all.

Dan Eastwood: So you are unable. That's OK. Math is hard, and there's no shame in admitting you do not understand difficult concepts.

BabaSege: Don't be lazy!

Dan Eastwood: Don't be absurd.

BabaSege: It's not so complicated. Young Human History (6000+ years). Very aged Earth/Cosmos (however long). These are views accommodated by the Bible. Affirming that science disproves Scripture (or vice versa) unmasks massive ignorance of both. I DON'T need to subscribe to Darwinian evolution and it's supporting belief systems to be consistent with the above

BabaSege, Premier 12 Comments [4/4/2018 2:13:11 PM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 137690

Aghdam, like me and so many other people, had been targeted by the YouTube cyber-bullies. As an independent media person whose content offended powerful special interests, Aghdam was apparently censored by YouTube, killing traffic to her site and destroying the business she had worked so hard to build.

When a bully targets someone, that person essentially has two choices: fight back or die (spiritually, morally, etc. if not physically). I know Jesus allegedly said to turn the other cheek. But in the real world, that usually doesn’t work with bullies.

The best way to fight back is with heart, mind, and words, maintaining the self-control necessary to wage a strategic war against the bully over the long term. That’s what I’ve been doing (for 15 years now) about the bullies who blew up the three World Trade Center skyscrapers, and the Constitution, on September 11, 2001.

Another way to fight back is to just go off on them—violently, physically. That is what I did to the two guys who bullied me when I was a teenager. In both cases I got sick of putting up with their BS and accepted their challenges to fight. The first one started crying when I landed a hard punch in the vicinity of his ear. The second one quit after suffering a black eye. Thankfully, neither one was permanently injured. (After growing up, I learned there were some very good reasons NEVER to punch people. See OnePunchHomicide.com.)

The possibility that a bullying target might go off on the bully—I mean, REALLY go off—is a deterrent to bullying. I hope the YouTube cyberbullies learn their lesson from the martyrdom of Nasim Aghdam. Youtube MUST return to a fully content-neutral policy: ending its “strikes,” reversing its vicious and unconstitutional attempt to demonetize the alternative media, and only removing material if there is a strong prima facie case that it violates the law.

Kevin Barrett, Veterans Today 5 Comments [4/4/2018 2:13:09 PM]
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Quote# 137688

Is it OK to Divorce an Abusive Spouse?

Call me what you will, I just believe that God meant for two people to spend life together, for better or for worse. I heard a preacher one time telling childhood stories about his parents down in Tennessee. I was shocked at what I heard. One day his father ran around the corner of the barn and said, “Son, go get my shotgun, your mother just stabbed me!” They never divorced. Now I'm not justifying that kind of crazy behavior, but I will say this to those of you who have ears to hear—we've lost personal integrity in America! People used to have something that this weak-kneed generation just doesn't have today—CHARACTER!!!

Surely it can't be God's will for me to stay with a person who beats me up? I think that is entirely the wrong way to look at things. As Christians (I speak to saved people) we ought to have a determination in our heart to stay married through thick and thin, no matter matter. If you're not saved, then Satan is in control of your life, so I do not speak to you. Jesus Christ cannot become your Lord (Master) until you first receive Him as your personal Savior (John 1:12-14). The moment you get saved, Jesus automatically becomes your new Master instead of the Devil. You don't have to acknowledge Jesus as your Lord to be saved, for that would be adding human effort to the simple plan of salvation given in the Bible. 1st Timothy 4:10 says that Jesus is “the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.” I love that Scripture! We have a good God ladies and gentlemen!

I love my mother and father, both born-again Christians, who have both gone onto to be with Jesus in Heaven. What a blessing to be with Jesus! I miss them dearly. But they had a rough marriage for 36-years. I could tell you hundreds of horror stories. I'd imagine every family has their share of dirty laundry, and I advise people to always keep their dirty-laundry at home where it belongs. What we need to do is place all that dirty laundry into Jesus' hands, and let Him deal with it—He'll cleanse all sin with His precious blood, and straighten everything all out! Jesus died on the cross so He could make everything right, because there's nothing that you nor I can do to straighten up the mess we've made out of life.

Is your life more resemblant of a train-wreck than a normal life? If so, you are in good company my friend. Our Savior uses the misfits, poor, ex-cons, failures, the destitute and broken-hearted, the lame, diseased, in debt, tired and weary souls. Where Did David Get His Mighty Men? (an awesome MP3 sermon, by Dr. Jack Hyles). God doesn't need our money, talents and education; but rather, he needs our heart to be humble in prayer, and obey to Him at all times as we forsake the sinful world and live for Jesus to get souls saved and .

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 54 Comments [4/4/2018 2:12:54 PM]
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Quote# 137687



Translation: Germany and Europe are characterized by Christianity. Islam and sharia aren't part of it.

Dr. Malte Kaufmann, Twitter 13 Comments [4/4/2018 2:12:19 PM]
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Submitted By: hydrolythe

Quote# 137686

As governments, media companies and social media companies become more censorious, pro-free speech terrorism could become a growing phenomenon. You could make the case that Breivik was a pro-free speech terrorist, too, as well as the NSU in Germany.

czakal, Twitter 5 Comments [4/4/2018 2:11:58 PM]
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Submitted By: hydrolythe

Quote# 137684

being vegan is about compassion, people have this idea that if you are a vegan you think you are better than non vegans, this is not true, it just means you have become educated on the subject and made the right choice.

Cat M jein, Youtube 7 Comments [4/4/2018 2:10:56 PM]
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Submitted By: hydrolythe

Quote# 137683

Lady Checkmate's headline: "PERSECUTION: Christian-owned Bridal Shop Closes After Death Threats"

(article cut-and-pasted from toddstarnes.com follows: https://www.toddstarnes.com/show/christian-owned-bridal-shop-closes-after-death-threats/)

Guest:
Walid Shoebat
The homosexual movement is the most hateful and most vile group in all of the Western world. The sodomites are supremacists; they believe that they have the superior lifestyle, a disposition and constitution more superior than the “others,” who they consider as inferior breeders. This is the ideology of sodomism.
Sodomism is the ideology of homosexual superiority, in which the homosexuals desire to usher in — through propaganda, violence and state coercion — a utopia in which homosexuality is seen as a supreme ideal, and those who believe in the conjugal union as is affirmed and established by the Christian Faith, are viewed and treated as enemies.
More at shoebat com

Lady Checkmate:


Mick Williams:
I thought this might be Iraq at first glance. We're getting more and more like the middle east in terms of hatred of Christians.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - Faith & Religion 10 Comments [4/4/2018 2:10:52 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta


Quote# 137680

BUCKEYE, WHY ARE YOU LYING TO US???

Buckeye:

Do you think the real Christian is as clueless as you are relative to the Bible and the manuscript history thereof? NOT! But thanks for posting this ridiculous Cathlic propaganda that doesn't take into account the utmost important differences between the corrupted Alexandrian manuscripts and the true Christian scripture.

Here's a suggestion for you: you can print out your Cathlic propaganda chart and use it as apropos--for personal hygiene after a bowel movement. You may then proceed to utilize the fake Bibles such as the vulgar "Latin vulgate", ASV, NIV, NLT, NKJV, and the rest of your corruptions in the very same manner!

In the name of our Savior,
Brother T

Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D., Disqus Grace and Truth 6 Comments [4/4/2018 2:09:47 PM]
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Quote# 137678

Do you think the "Heaven's Gate" cult had some things correct? instead of an alien spaceship riding on the back of the hale-bop comet coming to bring us to the next evolutionary plane above human, they misunderstood that it is the Merkaba instead bringing us to our higher selves?

yimnerr, Youtube 10 Comments [4/4/2018 2:19:59 AM]
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Submitted By: hydrolythe

Quote# 137676

Giving escorts fake money

Joke thought experiment

I don’t see escorts but I just had this idea to get you incels laid consistently

Go to independent escort for outcall (call her with vpn or fake number)

Bang her

Leave her couple fake $100 bills

Dip

What is she gonna do?

You can go on a slaying spree with this method

Chillhop, incels.me 23 Comments [4/3/2018 10:04:09 PM]
Fundie Index: 6
Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 137674

Explaining why "Stop focusing on relationships, focus on yourself!" is a blatant contradiction to self-improvment (IT CHERRYPICKERS AND LURKERS GTFIH)[

A normie platitude I hear that doesn't really make sense is "Stop focusing on relationships, focus on yourself!". Without any consideration into the emotional rewards relationships give, I shall explain why this is contradictory to the good cause of "self-improvement"

Before we start, we must agree on these axioms:
Axiom A: Self-Improvement in the area of personality must be done selflessly. There is no reward to oneself because of it, only a reward to others (interactions are made far easier, and they don't have to be menaced by a rude misogynist/non-cuck/non-fag/non-tranny/whatever). While stuff like weight loss (health benefits) or meditation (transcendence of this material world) has some benefit to it, you receive no reward for improving your personality.
Axiom B: No form of self-improvement should be detrimental to your health. Violate this and you have no life (or at least mental health) to see that shinning personality of yours improve.

These axioms will be instrumental in the point I will make in this essay.

Now, you might ask, how does one improve a personality? Perhaps these ideas have come to mind:

• Donating to charity
• • Adopting a pet to care for animals
• Volunteering at charity services
• Ejecting from the mind incorrect beliefs (such as Incelistani ideology, although I'd argue more would be done by leaving cuckqueers instead, but I'm trying to make this understandable for cuckqueers)
• Socializing with others
• Etc.

While these ideas are great and all of them DO work, we must also consider the scale of their effects. Donating to charities does help, but it doesn't help as much as actually volunteering at a charity service per say.
In that way, acquiring a relationship may be one of the most effective ways to 'personalitymaxx' if you will, or more appropriately, become a 'personality Chad'.

How so?

A relationship actually has you caring for someone at all times, in a good relationship you will not forget your SO. This provides you with the skills to better care for people and forces the selfishness out of you ; there is no 'I' in 'love'.
It also matures you as a person and teaches you valuable skills on how to properly interact with others.

How so?

Rather than simply talking to friends for a short time, a therapist who views the interactions as a business (which may toss YOU off, thinking that money has a more important role in interactions), a roommate who may move out when they wish, Family, which you should already do, or your pets which cannot understand your human 'language', a SO is far more different. You have them present at all times, and unlike Family, where you are related by blood, for an SO, you are attempting to create deep connections despite often times not many things in common. Such forces you to think outside the box on how not only to survive with them, but to thrive with them.

In a world where life expectancy is still a real thing and the ability to tire also exists, humans, not only in the field of personality-improvement, but in almost every field imaginable (Including typing these damn things, sorry I was gone for so long :() have to act as efficiently as possible. An example would be, training at the gym. Why, if of average lifting capability, lift what barley takes any effort, when you can lift what's harder to lift, thus creating more of the desired result. In our case, no matter how much time is expended improving one's own personality, one will always have time left over. In this case, acquiring a SO would be beneficial, as you have to go the aforementioned difficulties at all times, yes, including your spare time. It's the most efficient, considering that no one, can spend all their free time doing the other ones without violating Axiom B. An SO is the most feasible option for the Efficiency-Axiom paradigm. While not spending too much energy, great improvements to the personality can be made.

This is not to mention the emotional rewards you are giving to your SO by taking care of them properly.

But wait!

You may ask: Why not just adopt a kid? That kid is also human, and the time you are with it is also the same, no? The answer is simple: Two parents do a FAR better job than one. Without that SO, you aren't raising that kid as well you could have. Due to the fact that you are now experimenting with the life of a child, If you are incapable of doing it. Don't do it, lest that kid be stuck with question of how to improve it's own personality one day, as it now has dents in it's personality left by you, and leaving dents in someone's personality is detrimental to the improvement of you own.

THERE WE GO! GET THIS ONTO IT BOYOS!

ProudIncelistani, incels.me 9 Comments [4/3/2018 10:04:01 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 137673

Sermon 29: Goodbye

By James A. Wilson

I would like to take a minute to thank everyone who supported New Testament Baptist Church, and I sincerely hope we have had an impact on your life. However, this ministry must come to a close because I have a confession to make:

I am spiritually sick. I need to get cured before I can hope to be a competent minister of the Gospel of Christ. Due to my ever-present and severe gender confusion, I announce that I will seek the assistance of a minister in my area through reparative therapy. I cannot deny my grave and wicked sin anymore.

Young Christians, I would like to let you know that there is hope at the end of the tunnel. You don't have to be content in living in your sins and going on and on about living and doing that which is wicked.

Mark 4:30-34 " And he said, Whereunto shall we liken the kingdom of God? or with what comparison shall we compare it? It is like a grain of mustard seed, which, when it is sown in the earth, is less than all the seeds that be in the earth: But when it is sown, it groweth up, and becometh greater than all herbs, and shooteth out great branches; so that the fowls of the air may lodge under the shadow of it. And with many such parables spake he the word unto them, as they were able to hear it. But without a parable spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples."

May my faith be as that mustard seed, and may I come back from reparative therapy a strong and real man, as God has tasked me to be. Then, I may return to NTBC.

Farewell- James

James A, Wilson, New Testament Baptist Church 24 Comments [4/3/2018 10:03:59 PM]
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Quote# 137672

How can a child consent to sex with an adult?

Children consent to all kinds of things every day. Ask any parent how difficult it can be to get a strong willed child to do anything from homework to kiss that auntie they don't like.

Many children help to look after disabled family members, help to run families, help in so many ways because children are respected and capable members of society. They don't have a vote of course despite often being smarter than many adults and so without any voice in how they are governed they remain the last section of society without a voice or rights.

Now with regards to sex, why is sex so impossible for a child to understand compared to everything else they cope with in normal life? I was a very sexual child, it was one of the few things I knew I enjoyed. There are also books and research that show this is really very common. We as adults just like to present children as asexual beings too sweet to want anything other than play with toys and sing choir songs.

Humanrespect, reddit 10 Comments [4/3/2018 10:03:49 PM]
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Quote# 137670

I've been a longstanding member and contributor to this subreddit and the LGBTQ community, but because of the nature of this subject, and the taboos that go along with it, I'm going to reply using this new account, both for my own privacy, and because I've seen firsthand what accusations of even just sympathy for pedophiles can do to a person's reputation. I know we in the LGBTQ community feel like we have been victimized by society's bigotries and for most of us violence or the threat of violence has been a way of life at various points in our lives. What we have been through, or continue to go through, is really nothing compared to what pedophiles go through, and anyone even suspected of being one is treated like an absolute monster. Imagine not only being physically assaulted, but being under constant threat of murder and having to flee not only your home but your entire country, forced to change your name, and live a life of constant fear, not just during your childhood while there are bullies after you for being "different", but forever. That is what pedophile activists have and continue to face. There's no "It Gets Better" for pedophiles. I'm not willing to risk my own account here and good name to discuss this very taboo and dangerous subject. I think it's incredibly brave of you, silentGL, to even come here and speak to us. I hope you're taking precautions and staying safe.

To answer your questions first: 1) Yes. It is clear by any reasonable definition that MAPs are a GSM. I also think it's shameful and cowardly that we in the LGBTQ community kicked you guys out way back when just to make our own lives moderately easier. Furthermore I think that MAPs will eventually gain more public acceptance and that history will look back at what we did and judge us poorly for it. I think it may have even set some of us in the GSM community back, and made it easier for those resisting social change to divide us and make us weaker overall. 2) Yes. I would be open to MAPs potentially being part of the GSM community again. We never should have kicked you out to begin with. Now that homosexuals and bisexuals have largely achieved widespread acceptance, many are already separating themselves from some of the more rare gender/sexual minorities that have been left behind. Pedophilia, hebephilia, etc. would probably even be an asset since those orientations seem much more commonplace. If people can be more tolerant of MAPs as individual human beings deserving basic human dignity, they can be more tolerant of all GSMs. 3) My thoughts on MAPs overall, it's hard to say. I would like to believe that there are about as many rapists among MAPs as there are rapists among any other sexual orientation. In other words, a small minority of individuals with violent or sociopathic tendencies who aren't interested in having sex as much as they are interested in control and power, and forcible sex is their means of getting that power. I have read that a large number of convicted child molesters have no preferential sexual interest in children, but that children made for a convenient target while they were in the mood to hurt somebody. It's a shame that these criminals, many of whom are not actually MAPs, have painted your entire sexual orientation as monsters.

I do have some personal experience with a minor-attracted person, who I guess would be more precisely classified as a pedophile. When I was five and six years old, a family friend/neighbor and I developed a very strong bond. He was the complete opposite of the pedophile stereotype. He was handsome, he was very sociable and confident, and he was the gentlest person I've ever known. My parents would have him baby sit me, either at his house or mine, and we got along great. I loved and trusted him, and he never had to tell me he loved me back, it was clear in his actions from the very start. He wasn't like other adults, he respected me as an individual, showed he cared what I had to say and genuinely wanted to know what I was thinking. He didn't bully me or boss me around like other adults, or ignore my thoughts and feelings, or treat me as being somehow less than because of my age. I could tell he was different, and I think he knew I was different too.

All the talk from people answering silentGL's questions, saying stuff about kids being unable to consent, I find it remarkable. How many of you knew from an early age that you were different, that your feelings about gender or sexuality were different from other kids? How would you feel if somebody told you you didn't know what you were talking about, that your feelings are irrelevant or unimportant when you're that age? I remember very clearly coming out to my parents in 8th grade, and the hurt I felt when they belittled my orientation as "just a phase". They didn't trust me to make up my own mind about my sexuality then, and many of you are doing the same now to every child that might want a relationship with an adult. You should all take a closer examination of your own childhood feelings. You knew more about yourself back then than you are giving kids credit for today.

Anyway, I was different, and so was he. We both knew it without saying a word. He was the only adult I could really talk to about it though. My parents were conservative and kept pushing me into being more girly, more "normal". They didn't get me, but my closest friend, an adult male, he loved me for me. He encouraged me to play how I wanted, and feel how I wanted, and he'd always listen with great care and attention to when I said things about feeling different from other girls. See, I knew I was supposed to like boys, and I did like boys. But I also liked girls. I was six years old and already knew I was bisexual, I just didn't have the vocabulary for it or knew what sex was all about. This man, this pedophile, he not only accepted me for my orientation, but he told me there was nothing wrong with it either. He encouraged me to express myself, he let me draw pictures of two girls holding hands and being married. If I did that at home, my mom would frown and tell me that couldn't happen and that I should only draw pictures of a boy and a girl living together in a house.

When I was seven years old, the relationship I had with my much older neighbor did become something more than just close friendship. My curiosities about sex led me to very aggressively proposition him. There will be those who say he groomed me, or somehow manipulated me into a sexual relationship, but I was the seducer and he was one of the best lovers I've ever had. One of the reasons I am writing this using a new anonymous account is because I don't want this story to ever be traced back to him. I will always protect him, because even now many years later, I still love him and think of those afternoons at his house with nothing but fondness. I am insulted by those questioning my ability to consent to that relationship, which lasted a full five happy years before I felt I ought to end it, and I can only laugh at the irony of people in this community claiming an unconventional relationship like ours can only result in harm to the child. I ended the relationship, by the way, because I didn't want to hurt him by cheating on him, and at the time I was falling in love with a girl at my school. He was disappointed, but respected my decision, and never pressured me into any more sex even though we continued to be close friends for many years after.

The confidence and strength he gave me growing up, not only in my own sexuality but in myself as a person, is really what helped me survive the hardest years of middle school and high school, struggling to be a bi girl whose parents thought it was just a phase, and the many cruelties that other children heaped on her. It didn't matter that our sexual relationship had ended, I could still go over to that man's house after school and cry on his shoulder and tell him about my awful day. He'd hug me and tell me things would get better, and that the people who hated me were just stupid and ignorant. He wasn't somebody who had exploited me, or used me, he was a man who loved me, the whole me, and always treated me with respect and dignity.

While I cannot say for certain that every MAP in the world is like that man I knew, I do know men like him do exist, and can be a positive in the life of a child. I still get so much strength from his words to me when I was young. When I am having sex today, with a man or a woman, I always remember my first time not as a traumatic experience, but as the high bar of which I judge the generosity and respect I receive in my intimate encounters as an adult. I am not ashamed of my sexuality, precisely because that generous and loving man from my childhood taught me about how natural and wonderful it can be to express, with anyone I love. I learned from him that love is never wrong, and I have the self-esteem and self-respect to know what I deserve in relationships and demand I get it.[It breaks my heart to think that man I loved as a young girl would be arrested, called a monster, and locked away for loving me as much as I loved him.

So yes, silentGL, I have empathy for your kind, just as I have empathy for people of all kinds. I will judge you and others of your sexual orientation on a case-by-case basis, as individuals capable of both good and evil, the same as people of any sexual orientation. I have no more or less reason to be suspicious of you, as I would be suspicious of anyone else. I do hope that, whether you act on your feelings or not, you keep yourself safe and you always show respect for the dignity of those you are attracted to. I hope the world can change for you as much as I've already seen it change for me, and continues to hopefully change for all of us. I hope others who are like me, and remember now as adults such relationships as joyful loving occasions, will also speak out.

privacyplease1234567, reddit 1 Comments [4/3/2018 10:03:22 PM]
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Quote# 137669

Hi I am a average student (not a pedophile) that think pedophilia is as normal as any other sexual orientation and just as acceptable.

I believe that the mental anguish that children experience to is due to cultural stigmatization.

I find that the current situation is a witch-hunt on par with what gays experienced and think you are very brave for admitting who you are.

I have these opinion because I done some research into the subject and base my opinion on that research conclusion.

I wish more people would use logos instead of pathos when discussing this matter.



Thanks for your comments. I'm also of the opinion that it could be a natural part of human sociobiology. I think the taboos regarding child sexuality, sexual development, and attraction to children are compounding a lot of problems. I wish western society could simply recognize sexuality as being a normal, natural and generally healthy thing. Instead, we have a kind of love-hate relationship with our own bodies and what we can do with them.

Ultimately, regardless of whether a child involved in an adult-child sexual encounter is harmed by the sex itself, the social climate, the legal system, or a combination of these, such an event most likely will harm them.

I feel it should be self-evident that people who are attracted to, or sexually abuse children are easy targets. Everyone seems to hate these groups (deserved or otherwise) and this manifests in increasingly draconian laws and hysteria. Few think of trying to really understand the issues or look at ways to prevent the potential harm. We could all use a little more logic.





silentGL, reddit 3 Comments [4/3/2018 10:03:20 PM]
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Hi I am a average student (not a pedophile) that think pedophilia is as normal as any other sexual orientation and just as acceptable.

I believe that the mental anguish that children experience to is due to cultural stigmatization.

I find that the current situation is a witch-hunt on par with what gays experienced and think you are very brave for admitting who you are.

I have these opinion because I done some research into the subject and base my opinion on that research conclusion.

I wish more people would use logos instead of pathos when discussing this matter.


it's literally impossible to have a healthy relationship with a child as an adult.


That is incorrect. It is very possilbe and is in fact normal in a lot of non-western societies. In some it is in fact a rite of passage.

I am sorry, but unless you can provide proof that there is a direct link between sexual activity with children and mental anguish this is nothing but fear mongering.

hiddenLlama, reddit 0 Comments [4/3/2018 10:03:16 PM]
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If there were not legal repercussions, do you think that you would be intimate with a young person?


If it were legal AND socially accepted (or at least tolerated) then I might be interested in having a kind of relationship with a young girl. I imagine it would be essentially a close friendship and nothing more unless she were genuinely interested in exploring and learning about her body and sexuality, and that anything with regard to that would be done on her initiative. I would make certain she was completely comfortable and in control and that her feelings were paramount, and that she could ask me to stop at any moment and I wouldn't be disappointed or angry. I'd take any health considerations into account (hygiene, condoms etc) and wouldn't do anything to her that could physically harm her, ie penetrative sex. Ultimately though the most important thing would be the emotional connection and making her happy and feel loved.

However, in reality, the legal repercussions and the social taboo combine to result in an almost uniformly negative result (though there are exceptions) for any child involved in such a relationship, even under the conditions described above. The fact that doing so is illegal means putting the child into a situation where they would need to hide such a relationship and feel ashamed or conflicted over it, or reveal it and have their adult boyfriend/girlfriend go to jail, and be told that they were abused and that the adult didn't love them and only used them for their own desires - this is true in some or possibly most cases, but would also happen in a theoretical "positive" adult-child relationship. Either way, the child ends up hurt and thus it can not be justified to engage in such a relationship.

I don't think a theoretical positive relationship as described would necessarily be abuse, but I do think it would be abuse to subject a child to the repercussions of it.

silentGL, reddit 3 Comments [4/3/2018 10:03:11 PM]
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(= Description of Laws of the Bible explained=)

Laws of God explained.....

This was a sermon on homosexuality but it can be used and thought of as any sin and what goes against God....from stealing if your hungry.....to abortion the killing of a baby if it's inconvenient for you.....to divorce if your unhappy or for any other reason......you can't justify sin!!! You will be held accountable on judgement day unless you repent and turn away from sin........to be separated form God for eternity and to burn in hell is a second death but lasts forever.....Gods law and word has been written in heaven and will last forever....it will never change and there are no exceptions or special circumstances........

Christian Rough, Youtube 5 Comments [4/3/2018 10:03:05 PM]
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they are not.they came over from asia 10,000s of yrs before eastasians even existed as a racial group (evolving from negritos some 20k yrs bce)let alone a dominant one(around 10k bce,before that northern asia was a Ainu/native continent and the southern half was filld with australoid type people)Asians are a recent group in asia who basically genocided their way thru it similar to whites in the americas.TLDR natives have completely caucasoid haplotypes and most anthropologists set themm in the caucasian category in terms of skull size.natives and mongoloids ar eprobabely the MOST divergent race yet somehow since the 1960s some idiots put them in the mongolid category and people think natives are asians(when it would be the opposite if that were even the case,as natives predate asians by thousands of years).natives have diferent bodies,height,frame sizes and proportions than eastasian people.they have protusive maxillas and bone structures /browbones when asians have retracted ones(''flat face'') .the only natives I can see looke ven remotely asian are Brazilian but then even then youd have to Cherrypick as many of them look caucasoidish aswell,and they dont look like eastasians but soem asutronesian types.youd eb ahrdpressed to FIN any native that looks eastasian escept na dene natives (this includes Navajo and apache)from the pacific coast who are RECENT arrivals(10 k after the initial migration)and have mutated haplogroups.

Ive never seen a hapa that looks particularly hispanic,

Nativewilly, Reddit 2 Comments [4/3/2018 11:19:53 AM]
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I'm a Cree/French/English mix. What's happening to Asians is what happened to us. Native American men were stereotyped as dickless, pigtail-wearing, woman-hating, dog-eating fags.

Indian women were hypersexualized and took advantage of it and whored it out. It was considered an honor to be acquired by the fur trappers as a wife, by these self-hating Indian women. You would not believe how disloyal they were.

Today there are no pure Indians left. By 1950 if one of your ancestors wasn't White, they were a mixed breed of some kind. Mixed blood has circulated through the entire Indian community. It's hilarious, how almost all the people on the reservation look like you guys.
What is the end result? Exactly what EurasianTiger predicts for hapas. American Indians have the highest suicide rate in the country. Very high rates of antisocial personality disorder, and other mental illnesses. We continue to see our women defiled on a daily basis by these crackers. Our governments are run by uncle toms or "Custer's Scouts" as we call them. There is no future on the reservation but death.

At least they gave us the "noble savage" media image, once it was obvious that we were in self destruction mode. So generous.
IMO, Asian/Indian and European DNA are toxic to one another. We just were not meant to mix. If you look at the old pictures of the pure Indians, they look so beatiful and fit. Today's Indians look like diabetic slobs assembled from poorly fitting components. I'm 100% certain they were smarter, too. Caucasoids mixing with Mongoloid people is a form of genetic warfare, their DNA is a virus they install on us that accelerates our self-destruction.

FetusCrusher911, Reddit 5 Comments [4/3/2018 11:18:04 AM]
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If you want to be Biblical, a believer does in fact have a “license to sin” (only in the sense that the gift of eternal life cannot be forfeited). No sin that a believer commits can ever jeopardize one's Eternal Security. To teach otherwise is to negate the gift of God and teach a false Gospel of self-righteousness. Salvation is the gift of God, based upon Christ's imputed righteousness to our account (and not any good of our own). We are saved by grace through faith (Ephesians 2:8,9). Salvation is receiving, not giving.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 22 Comments [4/3/2018 11:17:02 AM]
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Balkanization like with Yogoslavia, Czechoslovakia, or Singapore would probably do the trick.

I'm against making things illegal, there just needs to be a shift in public opinion.

Now let me ask you a question. Why are former slaves content to live on their masters land, and live among them? Lynchings, the Tulsa massacre, the LA riots. and yet no move towards Black self-determination? I would want my own state, my own laws, and my own police. This talk of tolerance and equality is confusing to me when the Black community claims so much oppression.

WeAreLegion1863, Reddit 6 Comments [4/3/2018 11:15:34 AM]
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