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Quote# 141428

Korea – Unification, but Does Not have to be ‘German Style’

It is strange that when you come from the south, near to the DMZ (De-militarized zone, which divides Korea into two parts), you will see many flags and sentimental ‘peace’ slogans, but nothing that would represent the points of view of the North Korean people. All the flags are those of ROC (Republic of Korea, otherwise known as South Korea).

Many people near the division line have turned this entire area into a tourist trap, with observation towers ‘to get a glimpse of North Korea’, with stores selling ROK and US military ‘souvenirs’, even old military gear. As if North Koreans were some rare animals living in a cage, fascinating to study and to observe, but dangerous to touch.

Yes, all flags here are those of the ROK. Even if the two flags are crossed, in what should be a fraternal symbolic unison, they are always two identical ones – those of South Korea. This looks truly bizarre, but that’s how it is.

Something always seems to be desperately missing in this South Korean ‘strive for peace’ and for the re-united Korea. And what is missing is somehow totally basic: it is at least some essential symbolism from the north – the DPRK!

I know both parts of Korea – DPRK and ROK. And what worries me, is that it looks as if the South thinks it can pull this entire ‘businesses of unification’, alone, without considering the needs and desires of the other side.

And the West takes it for granted that the North will be, eventually, simply swallowed by the South. Because it is used to get what it wants. Because in its fundamentalist zeal, it is not even capable of considering the sensitivities and goals of other political, philosophical and social systems.

The plan of both the West and South Korea is simple, although it is mostly never clearly defined, for ‘strategic reasons’: ‘Once the moment of potential unification arrives, the DPRK would simply cease to exist, as East Germany ceased to exist three decades ago. Right after that, the entire Korea would be run on capitalist principles, under the ‘patronage’ and diktat of the West.’

And both the people and the leadership of North Korea will just fall on their knees and surrender, after the masses break down the border fences with their bare hands. Ordinary people will happily renounce their system, as well as the several decades of determined struggle and sacrifice. Everything will be thrown to the altar of mighty South Korean corporations and the pro-Western regime. Correct? Keep dreaming!

Korea is not Germany. And the second decade of the 21st century is very different from those bizarre, confused years when Gorbachev brilliantly demonstrated to the world, how much damage one naïve and useful idiot could cause to his own country and the entire planet.

The truth is – North Korea will never disintegrate the way East Germany did for many reasons, one of them being that, German history is very different: Germany was divided between 4 victorious powers after WWII. The Western part did not necessarily want to be capitalist and pro-Western (US and UK forged the post-war elections), and the East did not necessarily want to be in the Soviet orbit, either. Let’s be honest: the entire country was, just a bit earlier, running amok, shouting bizarre slogans and salivating under swastikas, maniacally admiring a murderous psychopath.

No, North Korea was not and is not East Germany! It was not ‘designated’ to any bloc. It fought a tremendous battle for its own system; it lost millions of its people during the brutal war, or call it genocide, committed by the West. And in the end, after receiving fraternal help from China, it finally won.

Since the beginning, the DPRK was an internationalist country, very much like Cuba. Not yet fully recovered from horrific devastation, it helped to liberate great parts of Africa.

It always knew what it wanted, it fought for it andin the end, it achieved many of its goals!

It never crumbled under sanctions and the combined propaganda of the ROK and its Western backers.

Even after the Soviet Bloc collapsed, it did not change its course.

It is an amazing country, no matter what some people think about its political system. And North Koreans are amazing people (I was privileged to film there, for my ‘poetic’ 25-minute film “Faces of North Korea”). They will not sell their ideals for bigger cars and a pair of designer jeans.Just like for Cuba, the North Korean motherland is not some commodity.

Then also imagine China and Russia, how ‘ecstatic’ both countries (increasingly under threat from the West) would be, if the entire Korea were to fall into North American hands. Imagine those military bases intimidating Herbin, Dalian, Beijing, Khabarovsk and Vladivostok!

South Korea suspects that the North will not yield.

They have tried everything: erecting enormous propaganda palaces like that infamous “War Museum” in Seoul.

They broadcasted their propaganda sermons via radio stations, even huge loudspeakers, placing them right near the division line. They joined efforts with the West, trying to isolate, even starve, their own sister in the north. Nothing helped.

ROK used to censor the press, disappear and murder its own dissidents, torture and rape political prisoners. All that, just in order to break any sympathy left for Communist ideals in the South.The South Korean campaign of terror was horrible, only comparable to those in South America under the right-wing dictatorships, and of course to that in post-1965 Indonesia.

Seoul never really apologized to the victims. Unlike in Taiwan, no monuments or museums were erected to the fatalities of the right-wing terror.

Trying to ‘soften’the DPRK by sanctions, arms race, and intimidation, has not brought any fruits. And it never will. Just the opposite: North Korea managed to harden itself; to mobilize and learn to produce basically everything: from automobiles to rockets, from computers to cutting edge medical equipment and medicine.

The only way for the two parts of Korea to find a common language is to show to each other deep respect.The German scenario would not, and, never should work here.

Both flags have to fly next to each other. Both political and economic systems have to be respected. When talking about unification, both ‘ways’ should be considered.

If South Korea were to ‘devour’ the North, nothing good would come from it:only more tension, discontent and possible confrontation. The North is a proud land. It has achieved plenty, alone. It has survived, against all the odds. It has helped oppressed parts of the world, honestly and generously. It has much to be proud of.Therefore, it will never surrender.

Yet, Korea is one nation and it is longing for unity. It will get it, but first: the ‘two sisters’, both beautiful, both brilliant, both very different, have to sit together and talk honestly and sincerely. They have done it before, and they will do it again. Both, together, are forming a family. But they cannot live together in one room. Not yet. In one house, yes, but in two different apartments.

And when they talk and try to build their home, again, there should be no interference from outside. They don’t need anybody to tell them what to do. They know, they will find a common language if left alone. It is all possible, and hopefully, soon, it will happen. But not the ‘German way’; it will either happen the ‘Korean way’, or not at all.

Andre Vltchek, Journal NEO 11 Comments [12/2/2018 9:29:32 AM]
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Quote# 141414

(=On a non-literal interpretation of Genesis=)

Oh good, more resources in support of not believing the historical narrative of the Bible, as if it is just yet another book from men (not God? We’ll just ignore 2 Timothy 3:16… and the references Jesus made to both creation and Noah’s flood). Ironic this article is in “Bible History Daily” – hey, it’s not ‘history’ if you don’t believe it. Have you considered the possibility that the Bible is actually true and similar creation/flood stories are found with the Babylonians and other cultures of the time because it is true, though they have twisted the truth to suit their own desires and rejection of the only true God? Broad is the road that leads to destruction, so thanks for helping to pave the way to not believing in the authenticity, the historicity, and authority of God’s word, I think?

Robert, Biblical Archaeology 13 Comments [12/1/2018 8:13:50 PM]
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Submitted By: CC

Quote# 141413

(=Regarding Christians who believe in Evolution=)

Sharon Price: There are plenty of scientists who believe in a young earth. Unfortunately, our secular society discredits and ostracises them. It is important for a Christian to know if the Bible is the Truth... if it is not 100% true, where does truth begin? Also, as Jesus spoke of Genesis as truth, for the Christian not to believe in literal Genesis, means they can’t trust Jesus. Either He is God personified, or he’s a charlatan. Yes, there are prophetic writings, but they are very clearly prophetic, and that is the only place a day for a thousand years is used. So decide for yourselves, whom you will believe, but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.

Chelleberry: You are completely correct Sharon. To discredit any part of the scriptures is to discredit God. I am so shocked to see so called Christians happy to dismiss scriptures. They don't realise how detrimental it is.

Raptor: You’re quite right Sharon, what is at stake is the entire veracity of scripture from page one onwards, yet some on here who claim to be Christians and therefore should have a great interest in its truthfulness, not only feel that this is a trifling matter which we shouldn’t be discussing, but vigorously defend what is basically a pagan atheistic philosophy dressed up in scientific garb, which the Bible does not in any way support, and furthermore neither does true science.

Sharon Price: Also look up on YouTube, “Dam Bursting” to see the evolutionary theories on the Grand Canyon taking millions of years to form, being destroyed. “New Island Birth” to demonstrate how the land forms don’t take millions of years to form. Mt St Helens eruption to discredit the radio carbon dating. They’ve also tested a newly dead seal, and various body parts registered various ridiculous ages. There are literally thousands of real life examples, secular scientists don’t bother to make public, as the only alternative is the absolute truth of the bible. Also, a great reference for any questions is CREATION.COM.

Brian M: Michael Roberts thinks Genesis 1 is poetry. The Bible is its own best interpreter. The Ten Commandments is certainly not poetry. The fourth commandment explained in Exodus 20:8-11 only makes sense if the days of the week including the Sabbath and the days of Genesis1 mean the same thing. So Genesis 1 is also not poetry.

Sharon Price & others, Premier 11 Comments [12/1/2018 8:01:16 PM]
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Quote# 141411

I would say I readily believe all of the claims in the Bible because I think hundreds of them have been documented, have been verified. Can you show me something that has been proven wrong from the Bible? Has an archaeologist proven anything wrong? They've discovered, like, the Hittite civilization. The Bible talked about the Hittites. Nobody heard of the Hittites for hundreds of years and all of a sudden, bing, they find evidence of the Hittites. Whoa!

I think the "improbable claims", all of the claims that I'm aware of in the Bible that can be verified have been verified. Some are yet still future. You'll see. Watch your knees. Next time you wash your knees, think "These things are gonna bow before Jesus Christ." Yes, they are.

Questionable sources; insufficient evidence? I think there's overwhelming evidence that the Bible is true. Now if you choose not to believe it (which is obviously what you've done), OK. I choose to believe it. But it's not questionable sources on insufficient evidence. You're the fool here.

Kent Hovind, Youtube 14 Comments [12/1/2018 4:02:12 PM]
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Quote# 141410

My "childish misunderstanding"? Uh, Mr. Nelson, I think I understand very well that frogs produce frogs and cows produce cows, and there are no exceptions. And I understand and make real clear to people, no fossil counts. No fossil counts for anything in a court of law, in an honest court of law. When you find a fossil in the ground, all you can prove is it died. None of the fossils I have seen (and we've got a huge collection of them here), none of them have a date stamped on them, none of them talk. You put interpretation on them, but your interpretation is not part of the fact. The fact is, this comes from a critter that died. That's the fact. Now if you want to add more to that, you're welcome to of course, but that's no longer science. So there are no fossils that would count in an honest court of law; every fossil would be thrown out. You can't say, "this is intermediate between these two"; you don't know that! You don't know if that fossil had any children at all. How could you possibly prove that? This is where you guys run off on imagination like Spongebob.

Kent Hovind, Youtube 10 Comments [12/1/2018 3:59:40 PM]
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Quote# 141409

Evolution is a religion that people believe in. Nobody's ever seen a frog produce a non-frog or a cow produce a non-cow. You can believe it if you want (and you obviously do), but I don't think you understand what evolution really teaches. I show every night for the last 60-some nights, right from the textbooks, there was a big bang where nothing exploded and then earth cooled down, developed a hard rocky crust, and it turned into soup from the rain, and the soup came alive. That is all part of the evolution theory.

Now in the last 10 years when you guys' feet have been held to the fire, you've tried to narrow evolution down to variations within different animals. There's a whole lot more to it than that. I give six definitions and you're gonna show it in a minute, and my six divisions of that slippery word "evolution" are correct. I think you don't know anything about evolution. I think you believe a lot of things. You have a great faith; it's an admirable faith. But you don't know anything about evolution.

Kent Hovind, Youtube 13 Comments [12/1/2018 3:58:07 PM]
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Quote# 141408

The vagina is a liberal organ of Satan, present in all females after the fall of man, that exists to seduce unwittingly stupid men into vile abominations unto the Lord. However, in Western culture, this evil organ is somehow given godlike status and has prompted numerous individuals into hysteria regarding the exalted status of this filthy demonic body part. Matthew 7:18 says "A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit." It is objectively verifiable that since this corrupt organ does evil while sinners think that it does good, the evil fruits are what it produces.

Liberals like to think that society should talk more positively about this disgrace to God's kingdom, citing the justification that the entire body is wonderful, and righteousness and self control are obsolete. Romans 12:1 clearly says that "I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service." Therefore, highlighting and focusing on the worst part of anatomy is not what God intended.

"And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons." Genesis 3:7 notes the shame that this nasty part brought Eve, and that it needed to be covered up. If liberals were correct in their assessment that it was natural and not shameful, there would be absolutely no reason to cover it up. Liberal logic fails once more.

This evil thing can be used as an instrument of coercion, leading people to Hell. Numerous men were sent to Hell after this evil organ was used by the evil succubus Taylor Swift who possessed many men into a lustful trance, and since they all rejected the Lord Jesus Christ, they fell deeper and deeper until the succubus found the next victim. Satan formed Swift into such a way, having perfectly circular and perky breasts to trick unwittingly stupid men into engaging in utter depravity with the utmost evil organ of shame and sin

Steven R., SimplyChristian  16 Comments [12/1/2018 3:57:26 PM]
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Quote# 141407

Since salvation is by an act of God, the raising to life those dead in sin, then it is not a requirement that sinners are persuaded of the truth of the gospel by the arguments we present.

Equally, the Resurrection could be described as a stumbling block, for how can a dead man rise from the dead? Are you therefore going to omit the resurrection because it is a stumbling block to belief?

Evolution is not 'the best fit for the facts', for it fits none of the facts of science. We do not see any malleability of life at the highest level, all we see is minor changes. There has been an experiment under way since February 1988 to measure Evolution in the E. coli bacteria. Although they claim to have to have seen Evolution in reality there has been none. The E. coli remain E. coli.

We are called to proclaim the whole council of God, not just those things that seem reasonable to our hearers.

Martin, Premier 6 Comments [12/1/2018 3:56:18 PM]
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Quote# 141406


The narrative in Genesis 1 & 2 is quite clear, what is there to interpret? If it isn't historical narrative, how can you draw any lessons from it, it is just a story.

And if you had never heard of Evolution, would you disbelieve Genesis 1 & 2?

Martin, Premier 6 Comments [12/1/2018 3:55:48 PM]
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Quote# 141403

End Times broadcaster Rick Wiles is convinced that the earth is about to experience a new ice age that will last for hundreds of years and wipe out a large percentage of humanity … but, on the upside, it will also destroy Planned Parenthood.

“You can laugh, mock, ridicule all you want, but you’re going to end up freezing to death,” Wiles said on his “TruNews” program last night. “This thing is here, it’s arriving and it’s arriving quickly and it’s arriving this year. We’re going to see the onset of this ice age in the winter of 2018.”

After co-host Doc Burkhart explained that this coming ice age is “the result of man’s sin,” Wiles took solace in the idea that it will at least also “freeze out a lot of sin.”

“It will freeze out Planned Parenthood,” he said. “There won’t be very many abortions in America 15 or 20 years from now. There is not going to be a lot of pornography consumption. There is not going to be a lot of drug use. It’s going to freeze out a lot of sin, that’s for sure because a lot of people are going to be dead. That is just a fact. An ice age wipes out a substantial portion of the population.”

Rick Wiles, Right Wing Watch 12 Comments [12/1/2018 3:51:51 PM]
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Quote# 141402

John Guandolo, the disgraced former FBI agent and right-wing conspiracy theorist who now trains law enforcement agencies around the country to identify seemingly anyone with dark skin and a beard as an Islamic terrorist, appeared on “The Glazov Gang” program last week, where he declared that two Muslim women who were elected to Congress should be banned from serving because, he absurdly claimed, only Christians can serve in Congress.

In the recent midterm elections, Democrats Rashida Tlaib of Michigan and Ilhan Omar of Minnesota became the first Muslim women elected to Congress, but Guandolo is declaring that as “sharia-adherent women,” they are unable to uphold the U.S. Constitution and therefore must not be allowed to take office.

“These are people who are now, I would argue, legally they cannot serve in these positions,” Guandolo said. “You cannot have somebody who is adherent to sharia serving in public office. The founders, by the way, were very clear that only Christians should hold public office, so let’s just put that out there.”

John Guandolo, Right Wing Watch 16 Comments [12/1/2018 3:50:50 PM]
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Quote# 141400

Today's Laugh 11-21-18

Reporter: Mr. President! Explain Ivanka's email scandal!
Trump: Simple inexperience - unlike Hillary, who deleted 33,000 subpoenaed emails and put classified data on an unsecure server.
(member of the press shown falling asleep)
Reporter: Cut, cut!
Reporter: Mr. President! Why are families being cruelly torn apart in Tijuana?

Mick Williams:
Episode: Minions of the MSM (Militant Satanic Media).

Mick Williams, Disqus - Faith & Religion 11 Comments [12/1/2018 3:49:28 PM]
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Quote# 141399

Satan's ultimate goal, and you wait and see, is to totally rid the churches of the trustworthy King James Bible. Once the homosexual agenda has been adopted into most of the churches, the KJB will be demonized as unfitting, offense and lacking tolerance for others. Already 5,100 American Baptist Convention churches are shamefully supporting the homosexual activist group AWAB. The apostate Independent Baptist church that I am talking about is so messed up. By the way, the Baptist pastor I met with at McDonalds told me that he recently attended an AWAB meeting. Unbelievable!!!

That same shameful Baptist pastor that I mentioned earlier, invited me recently to McDonalds, because he said he wanted to comment about a CD of Evangelist Phil Kidd's sermons that I gave him. He deceived me. The pastor was also 10-minutes late. The truth is that he wanted to tell me to SHUT UP again about exposing the modern Bible versions to their church members. Now they don't want me attending the private homes of their church members, because I may corrupt them. These are the crappy pastors in today's churches. They're behaving like Jehovah's Witnesses (a cult).

The pastor who invited me took a cheap shot across the table at McDonalds by saying he had heard some gossip about me and wanted to know what the story was. I told him that he ought to be ashamed of himself, especially as a pastor, for listening to gossip. My enemies (including pastor enemies) can attack me, degrade me, put me down, accuse me, say all manner of evil against me, but I am going to continue to PREACH THE TRUTH!!! Sadly, homosexuals, atheists and drunkards treat me far better than Baptist pastors do. I can't wait until judgment day! We'll see who's right and wrong!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 15 Comments [12/1/2018 3:48:48 PM]
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Quote# 141398

[Note: 2014 source]

Astrology topmost science, ancient sage did nuclear test: BJP MP Pokhriyal's gems of wisdom

The controversy over Sadhvi Niranjan Jyoti's statements is still to die down but BJP MP and former chief minister of Uttarakhand Ramesh Pokhriyal Nishank has stirred up a fresh one by claiming in Parliament that astrology is a superior form of science dwarfing everything else.

"All streams of science are dwarfed in stature when compared with the science of astrology. Astrology is the number one science for the entire world," he said.

The minister's statments came during a debate in the Lok Sabha on a legislation to give more powers to the School of Planning and Architecture.

During the debate, Pokhriyal also claimed that nuclear tests are not new to India. According to Pokhriyal, in ancient India sage Kanad conducted the first nuclear test.

The Indian Express quoted the BJP MLA as saying:

"Lakhs of years ago, Sage Kanad had conducted a nuclear test. Our knowledge and science do not lack anything."

Pokhriyal also revisited Prime Minister Narendra Modi's statement on genetic science's existence in ancient India and agreed with it.

"People raised questions on Modiji’s comments on Ganesh’s surgery. It was actually a surgery. The science or knowledge to transplant a severed head existed only in India," Pokhriyal said during the debate in Lok Sabha, reported Zee News .

The minister was not only criticized for his comments which undermined science but members of Left, Congress and Trinamool Congress came down heavily on the former CM.

While the opposition and other parties were up in arms against the statement made by Pokhriyal, the BJP MP stuck to his stand and said there should be a proper discussion on the subject and astrology "should get the respect it deserves."

Ramesh Pokhriyal, firstpost 5 Comments [12/1/2018 3:48:38 PM]
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