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Quote# 129900

The full Catholic teaching on masturbation seems to be a secret to most people.

It is a challenging teaching.

But because this teaching calls us to live in a fully human way, it’s good news!

“Is masturbation wrong?”

Yes. The Catholic teaching on masturbation says that masturbation is always morally wrong.

Sex is intended to be both an expression of love for your spouse, and a beautiful means of procreation.

Sex is so special, powerful, and valuable that it is properly used only within marriage. If you’re not married, you should abstain from sexual activity.

I know: this is all very counter-cultural.

The truth sometimes is!

Sex is the ultimate gift husbands and wives can give: a total gift of self, body and soul. Sex is how you fulfill your wedding vows to love totally, freely, and completely. As long as you both shall live. The secret of life is hidden in that intimate sharing.

The Catholic teaching on masturbation says that masturbation denies every aspect of that promise of sex — of that promise of your vows!

Masturbation is:

Focused on yourself
A withholding from your spouse
A statement that sex is only about pleasure — your own pleasure
Inherently sterile
Often accompanied by “adultery in your heart” through pornography and fantasy
Catholics don’t condemn masturbation just because of some lofty idea of what the natural purpose of sex is. We speak the truth about the harm it does to people.

That is the true reason for the Catholic teaching on masturbation: it denies the meaning of sex. It makes you less than fully human.

“But everyone else says masturbation is healthy!”

Yes, they do.

The world has a way of saying that a lot of disordered things are “good”.

Masturbation is radically self-centered, and radically un-Christian. That’s why the Catholic teaching on masturbation says it’s wrong. It turns us and our sexuality away from God and toward ourselves by:

Training our sexuality in the habit of self-indulgence, not self-giving
Divorcing the pleasure of orgasm from union with the “other”, your spouse
Turning away from the risks of loving another
Refusing fertility & the full responsibility of sex
I know — many educators and health professionals seem to be having a love affair with self-centered, self-indulgent sexuality. Why that is, I don’t know.

They’re wrong. They’re not telling you the truth about sex, about yourself, or about life.

You and your sexuality are worth more than you can imagine.

The Catholic teaching on masturbation is centered on a virtue called chastity. It means giving sexuality its proper place in our lives. Not snuffing it out, but not giving it free reign. A proper place. Chastity is one of the Fruits of the Holy Spirit. (See Catechism, 2337 - 2359)

The deep truth of the Catholic teaching on masturbation is confirmed by the enormous damage this so-called “private” act causes in people’s lives and marriages. Large numbers of men and women are starting to name their habit of masturbation for what it is: sexual addiction.

If we tell our teens that masturbation is normal and healthy, we’re setting them up with a habit that can yield a lifetime of difficulty. We’re telling them that self-indulgence and lack of self-control are positive things. This cannot form a strong foundation for mature, loving sexuality.

How is that either loving or healthy?

This talk of habit raises an important point: when is masturbation a sin? And how bad a sin is it?

The Catholic teaching on masturbation says that masturbation is a grave sin, what we call a mortal sin, by which we reject God’s offer of life.

However, Catholic morality also acknowledges that the force of habit can reduce or even eliminate our responsibility for our actions.

We have to freely consent in order to be fully responsible.
If a habit makes something less than a free choice, it also reduces our responsibility for our actions.
This does not give us free reign if we just call something a habit! Sinful actions still harm us greatly, even if we may not be fully charged with the guilt of committing them.

We have a responsibility to seek help and diligently strive to overcome our habits.

The Lord is patient & merciful. He desperately wants to free us from the slavery of sin. But we have to do our part, too.

If you think you’re trapped in the habit of masturbation or one of its close cousins (pornography, infidelity, prostitution, etc.), seek the competent help of a priest who supports the Church’s sexual morality, and specifically the Catholic teaching on masturbation. (Don’t be shy! They’ve heard it all before. Sadly, it’s quite common.)

beginningCatholic, beginningCatholic 7 Comments [7/29/2017 8:01:39 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 129899

I really HATE to bring up this topic, because it's always on these forums.

I'm an 18 year old male, Cradle Catholic, and I really struggle with masturbation. Used to be porn, too, but I think that's stopped now (I pray).

I've actually been masturbating since I was five, but I can't remember how it started. I didn't realize it was wrong until I was twelve. The longest I've ever gone without falling is 3-4 weeks, and I can't stand how helpless everything seems. I go to confession, I give it an honest effort, and it never fails that I have to go back within a week or two. A couple of times I've just given up for months out of depression.

I pray frequently, always asking God to guard me against temptation, and I avoid whatever I can that would cause me to falter. I don't care if it makes me seem radical: I don't go to pools or beaches; if I'm watching a movie that "surprises" me , I get up and leave; if conversations turn a tempting way, I change the subject or walk away; I avoid teenage parties in general, and I don't talk to girls by myself. That's gone a long way for me.

For the past 6 months, though, it hasn't been external temptations, but internal ones that catch me. I'll make it a week (whoo!), feeling like I'm making progress, and then I get urges that keep coming in waves, until I give in. They aren't caused by or attached to anything. They just appear, seemingly at random. How can I defeat these?

Can I use a chastity device? I'm not looking for a way to make masturbation impossible. Nothing can do that, just like an internet filter can't stop you from using a password. But it makes it more difficult, at least. I would have to apply effort and CHOOSE to masturbate, and that might help me stop. Has anybody ever done/heard of this?

I really hate this sin, and I'm willing to use everything at my disposal to stop it. Whatever you end up telling me, though, please pray for me.

Sorry for the long post.

NonNobis, Catholic Answers Forum 12 Comments [7/29/2017 8:01:31 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 129898

In last year’s Brexit referendum, Jeremy Corbyn carried the baton for the City of London and trampled on his working-class and minority supporters by campaigning to remain in the EU. Crime hasn’t paid. Corbyn may have capitulated, but the Blairites will be satisfied by nothing short of his political annihilation. As New Labour’s prince of darkness Lord Peter Mandelson ranted at a 20 February Jewish Chronicle event: “Why do you want to just walk away and pass the title deeds of this great party over to someone like Jeremy Corbyn? I don’t want to, I resent it, and I work every single day in some small way to bring forward the end of his tenure in office.”

The bourgeoisie and its Blairite agents despise Corbyn for his talk of socialism, his support to trade union rights and his stated support for unilateral nuclear disarmament. In the eyes of the imperialist rulers, Corbyn’s opposition to the Trident nuclear missile system in particular makes him unfit to govern. On Remembrance Sunday in 2015, the head of the armed forces, General Sir Nicholas Houghton, made that view clear in a thinly veiled coup threat during an appearance on the Andrew Marr show.

Mandelson and the rest of the cabal led by Tony Blair spent two decades trying to transform Labour into an outright capitalist party. They abandoned even lip-service to socialism, abolished Clause IV and attempted to cut Labour’s ties to the unions. Corbyn’s election as Labour leader in September 2015, and his resounding re-election a year later, called the Blairite project into question. Driving the Blairites out of the Labour Party would constitute a step towards the political independence of the working class, despite the bankruptcy of Corbyn’s parliamentary reformist programme. For Marxists, it would offer an opportunity to expose the pretentions of the Labour lefts to speak for the working class. It would also further the struggle to win the most advanced workers and youth to the perspective of building a revolutionary workers party.

Corbyn continues to accommodate the Blairite agents of capital within Labour. Despite having the support of the majority of the party’s hundreds of thousands of members, Corbyn has not insisted on mandatory reselection of the despised Blairite MPs, or the removal of witch-hunting general secretary Iain McNicol. To avoid a split in the Parliamentary Labour Party last November, Corbyn and his allies John McDonnell and Diane Abbott absented themselves from Parliament during the vote on a motion by the Scottish National Party (SNP) calling for Blair to be held to account over the Iraq war. This unrequited peace offering was an offence against the hundreds of thousands of members who flooded into the Labour Party to support Corbyn, in large part driven by justified hatred for Tony Blair’s crimes.

The class war in the Labour Party poses the question: what type of party is needed to represent the interests of working people and the oppressed? The old Labour Party that is Corbyn’s model prided itself on being a “broad church”, meaning that it had room for a wide spectrum of political currents and opinions. Bloc affiliation of the trade unions to Labour ensured that the pro-capitalist union bureaucrats called the shots. In practice, such a “party of the whole class” necessarily submerges the most advanced layers of the working class into the most backward ones, with the result that the right wing dominates and the left bends to it for the sake of unity. Such parties are inevitably chauvinist, based on the dominant ethnic grouping and tied to the defence of the imperialist interests of their own ruling class. Corbyn’s leadership of Labour illustrates what that kind of party means in action — subordinating the needs of workers, immigrants and the oppressed to the likes of Tony Blair and his bourgeois cronies.

A Leninist vanguard party, in contrast, consists of the most politically advanced layers of the working class and oppressed, as well as elements of the petty bourgeoisie who have been won to the cause of proletarian revolution. A vanguard party would not tolerate the existence of pro-capitalist elements and English chauvinists in its ranks. It would champion the defence of immigrants, women and minorities, whose liberation must be tied to the proletariat’s struggle against capitalist class rule. Actually fulfilling the burning needs of working people and the oppressed cannot be achieved through a Labour majority in Parliament — it requires breaking the power of the capitalist exploiters through socialist revolution. To that end, the workers need their own steeled and tested combat party, modelled on the Bolshevik party of VI Lenin and Leon Trotsky, which led the working class to power in the Russian October Revolution of 1917!

Spartacist League of Britain, Spartacist League of Britain 4 Comments [7/29/2017 8:01:24 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 129897

Israel was to spread abroad to the West, East, North and South: "And thy seed shall be as the dust of the earth, and thou shalt spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south: and in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed" (Genesis 28:14). It was in that exact sequence that the British Empire was established as the only non-totalitarian empire that the world has seen.

Israel was to have a monarch of the Davidic line: "For thus saith the Lord; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne of the house of Israel" (Jeremiah 33:17). The people of the Jews do not have a monarchy and the Church is the Body of Christ, its Lord and Head. It can be shown that the Royal House of Britain is descended from King David. Further, the British monarchs are anointed in the same way as Zadok the Priest anointed the Kings of Israel (Details of the Coronation Service still used for the crowning of British Monarchs may be obtained by writing to our Headquarters).

Israel to be defended by God and as a global maritime power could not be defeated (Numbers 24:7-9). This was clearly seen in World Wars I and II and looking through our history, in many other great battles such as against the Spanish Armada and at Trafalgar.

Israel was to carry the Gospel to the whole world: "This people have I formed for myself; they shall show forth my praise" (Isaiah 43:21). This our great missionary enterprise achieved over past centuries. The Christian Gospel went with the British Empire.

The Stone of Israel must be in the possession of Joseph, the “fruitful bough” of the birthright (I Chronicles 5:2) blessing: “from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel” (Genesis 49:24). That is, from that time Joseph kept the stone of Israel, which God had said to his father Jacob: “This stone shall be God’s house” (Genesis 28:22-24), the great worldwide blessings on Joseph would ensue (Genesis 49:25-26). Why have British monarchs been crowned over a rough hewn piece of sandstone for over a thousand years?

When Queen Elizabeth II was presented with the Holy Bible at the Coronation Service these words were addressed to her: "Our gracious Queen: to keep your Majesty ever mindful of the Law and the Gospel of God as the Rule for the whole life and government of Christian Princes, we present you with this Book, the most valuable thing that this world affords."

During the anointing ceremony, the most sacred ceremony on earth, the choir sings the following words based on I Kings 1:39-40: "Zadok the Priest and Nathan the Prophet anointed Solomon king, and all the people rejoiced and said: God save the king, Long live the king. May the king live forever. Amen. Hallelujah." God save the King/Queen are the opening words of our National Anthem. Why do we follow the biblical pattern so precisely?

Why did George I stand up when he first heard Handel’s Hallelujah Chorus and why do we still stand on such occasions?

Admiral of the Fleet, Lord Fisher, 1st Baron Fisher of Kilverstone (1841-1920), once remarked: "We are a wonderful nation. Astounding how we muddle through. There is only one explanation – we are the Lost Ten Tribes."

British-Israel World Federation, British-Israel World Federation 2 Comments [7/29/2017 8:01:04 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Worst "Proof" of God Ever Award

Formulated by the dumbest "Superintelligence" ever.

Quote# 129895

If the human race could collectively go one single 7-day period without committing any of the acts that God describes as sins in the Bible, I would agree that God doesn't exist. If God does not exist and evil is nothing more than how we happen to describe certain human choices, then obviously it is possible for Man to not commit evil as it is described in the Bible as the violation of God's Will. In fact, even if only 10 people could manage to go about their normal daily lives for a single week without sin, I think this would be a remarkable piece of evidence against the existence of God.

If, however, Man cannot refrain from committing evil despite consciously choosing to do so, then obviously the Biblical model of fallen Man is more in line with observable reality than the godless model, thereby indicating that Man's morality is defined by the Will of an existent God.

Vox Day, Vox Popoli 21 Comments [7/29/2017 8:00:28 AM]
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Submitted By: David

Quote# 129893

Go drop one rock on top of another 500 times and do your best to convince yourself that all the life you see around you began as a result of a singular accidental collision.

Vox Day, Vox Popoli 13 Comments [7/29/2017 7:59:48 AM]
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Submitted By: David

Quote# 129892

Marxist Memes, Facebook 14 Comments [7/29/2017 7:59:38 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 129889

#LeftyLogic #SJW #Regressive #SnowFlakes #ThoughtPolice

Reluctant Conservative, Facebook 12 Comments [7/29/2017 7:59:15 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 129888

On a current thread....

"And I restate the same response, except exchanging race for gender. Sexual preferences is a category all unto itself. So a comparison cannot be made based on race, or gender because they are biological constructs. As opposed to homosexuality and transvestism which are psychological constructs."

And on that page's "Related Articles" an article titled "U.S. Military Opens Combat Role to Women" from 2 years ago by afchief

"Not my military anymore. Could never serve today under this traitor in the White Mosque. Women are NOT men and cannot do most masculine jobs. This is just another nail in the coffin of our once fine military.

I still talk to people on active duty and everyone has told me they are disgusted with their leadership. A lot are getting the GI bill and getting out as fast as they can. I have never seen morale so bad."

Faithwalker and afchief, Christian News Network 8 Comments [7/29/2017 7:58:56 AM]
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Quote# 129887

I'm assuming each initial of LGTB stands for something different/unique so im having difficulty believing that your LGTB (all 4 in one person) but maybe you are. I'm quite sure your human and never gave a thought to you having a unique branch of homo erectus, a gray alien, or someother entity. If no extra accommodations, treatment, finances, housing, ect are needed to allow transgenders to serve than why would Trump, me or anyone else who didn't reject to it on religious grounds have a problem. Since we allowed our government to pass nationalized medicine,I'm not sure how much (if any) savings are achieved with the transgender person paying out of pocket. We do have other Americans that love their country and can't server do to afew reasons so I'm not sure anyone can claim this is a fear/bigotry rule as you claim. On the campaign trail for the rep nomination Trumpbtalked of pulling troops out of Korea, Japan, lessen role in EU & UN so I don't see a problem with the decline in military personnel or decline in the budget/spending as well.

Elliott Michael Prats, SPLC Hatewatch 6 Comments [7/29/2017 7:58:39 AM]
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Submitted By: DiarrheaMan

Quote# 129886

Alma | June 24, 2017 at 8:47 am | Reply

Salem 1692, more than 200 people were accused of practicing witchcraft—the Devil’s magic. 2017 Vogue is urging women to be witches, sorry, I think they mean “bitches” say Miley, Madonna, Rosie O’butch, etc. DUMP VOGUE, donate the money to abused women.

Alma, Fellowship of the Minds 3 Comments [7/29/2017 7:58:27 AM]
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Submitted By: DiarrheaMan

Quote# 129885

Sorry Scaramucci, NO ONE SHOULD SUPPORT HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE PERIOD. I should not be a political issue, it should not be a left or a right issue it should not be an issue and it would not be had good moral people stood up and kept this perversion of truth and sexuality from being allowed to become the ultra lefts poison they push in schools. This crap started even as far back as when I was in 10th grade in 1982. The school district sent some supposed amazing school counsellor to my school to talk to me because I was in a bad mood and would not tell anyone why. The brilliant idea he came up with was maybe I was having a problem with my girl friend or boy friend for that matter. I asked what he said? he repeated that perverted crap and I let him know he needed to restate that question because there was obviously a misstatement or he wanted to get his ass kicked. He replied "No. I think the question was appropriate?" I gave him another chance then began to beat his ass as I had said I would. The principal who was the best principal I ever had came in and asked what the hell I was doing, I told her what happened and she asked me to just go home and said I'll see you in the morning. She then lit into him for quite a while and got him fired thankfully. That idiotic counsellor was in the beginning of this propagandizing and brain washing that the NEA and the DNC have been using in the school system to screw up the morals and the minds of the youth. If the parents and people who had the power to do so had fought it and stood up to this crap, and that is what it is is one of the biggest piles of Horse crap ever piled up, this would not be an issue.
Abprtion is not a right it was just a politically charged decision by activist judges and it is wrong, always will be wrong. The difference between a baby and an abortion is just a few inches. it is not an issue of when life begins because that is not up for opinions even though the supporters would have you think so. We know it begins at conception because the changes begin IMMEDIATELY. It is a baby not just a fetus, lump of flesh, or some other creature. This is moronic and it is perverse. When the ovum is fertilized the changes to it begin as soon as the little swimmer gets in and don't end until the person dies. every moment of the forming of the baby is just another stage of that persons life so when someone goes into the womb with a roto-rooter which is basically what they do in early term abortions, they are chopping the baby into tiny chunks. Videos of this horrific murder show that the baby tries to go as far as he/she can in the womb away from the instrument as they possible which shows there is an understanding that they are in danger. This proves that they are already able to recognize danger which means that they are living.

James Southern, Christian News Network 8 Comments [7/29/2017 7:58:17 AM]
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Quote# 129884

Obama was exactly what modern liberals and atheists were waiting for. A way to openly hate religion. He promoted it while trying to convinced us he was Christian. You don’t sit in the “church” he sat in for 20 years, marry the thing he did, promote Islam at every turn and to allow so many Islamic groups into the people’s White House and promote and support all the Muslims he possibly could while bowing to a Saudi King. He rarely attended church. Why? We’re the rumors true he had his own little mosque in OUR White House and prayed there instead? He had a Mao decoration bulb on a WH Christmas tree.
He demanded Christian colleges to cover religious icons to be covered before his arrival. He told us this was no longer a Christian nation, but an Islamic nation. He surrounded himself with like minded people and they grew in strength.
He created the perfect storm for people all over the world to deny Christ.
He was exactly what many had been wanting for years.
Christianity was already in a decline and the last 8 years was no help.

Glenn47, Fellowship of the Minds 9 Comments [7/29/2017 7:58:06 AM]
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Submitted By: DiarrheaMan

Quote# 129881

Pat Robertson has warned single mothers, that they’ll go to hell if they aren’t forced to get married.

The 700 Club host got a question from a father who has been actively trying to force his daughter to marry the father of her child, even though she has been through two divorces and doesn’t want to marry for a third time.

“My daughter has been living with a man for 3 years and has a baby with him,” viewer Mark wrote in an email. “She has told her kids that they are married but she won’t marry him because she has had 2 husbands already.”
Robertson believes that all women should be forced to marry, have babies, and cook and clean. Without even having met the viewer’s daughter, Robertson assumed that her relationship issues are due to a bad upbringing and that she must be rebellious instead of being submissive to the man in her life.

“I don’t know what kind of bringing up she had, but she didn’t have a very good one. A couple of marriages already? She is obviously undisciplined, rebellious, she can’t hold a stable relationship. And now she won’t enter into one even though she’s got a child by this man.”

Pat Robertson said that single mothers are asking to be sent to hell by remaining unmarried. The con artist also dared to presume what God would do to mothers who choose to stay single.

“She’s tempting God. I mean, man. She is walking on the edge. You think Wallenda was taking a chance? She’s really on a tightrope. I’d warn her because she’s asking for it. It’s going to be really tough. It’s easier to ask for forgiveness than permission — that’s a big joke. Not when you’re dealing with the Lord. Sooner or later, God’s going to say, ‘That’s all she wrote, baby.’ And it’s going to be tough.”

Pat Robertson, Nova Magazine 8 Comments [7/29/2017 7:57:25 AM]
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Quote# 129880

The Hidden Messages in Water Paperback – September 20, 2005

In this New York Times bestseller, internationally renowned Japanese scientist Masaru Emoto shows how the influence of our thoughts, words and feelings on molecules of water can positively impact the earth and our personal health.

This book has the potential to profoundly transform your world view. Using high-speed photography, Dr. Masaru Emoto discovered that crystals formed in frozen water reveal changes when specific, concentrated thoughts are directed toward them. He found that water from clear springs and water that has been exposed to loving words shows brilliant, complex, and colorful snowflake patterns. In contrast, polluted water, or water exposed to negative thoughts, forms incomplete, asymmetrical patterns with dull colors. The implications of this research create a new awareness of how we can positively impact the earth and our personal health.

Dr. Masaru Emoto, Amazon 7 Comments [7/29/2017 7:57:16 AM]
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Submitted By: The Reptilian Jew

Quote# 129878

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Twitter Censorship: Pastor's Ad for Book on Traditional Marriage is Labeled 'Hate Content'"

Obvious Christian persecution and more intolerance from those who DEMAND tolerance.
They're bullying and persecution has NOT gone unnoticed and folks are starting to recognize them for what they are...God's will be done.

Twitter has reportedly denied the request of a pastor to use the social media network to advertise his new book which promotes a traditional view of marriage.

The Christian Post reports that Pastor Craig Stellpflug paid for Twitter ads to promote his recently-published book titled One Man One Woman: God’s Original Design for Marriage.

Stellpflug, who is a pastor at Sunrise Baptist Church in Custer, Washington, said that Twitter sent him an email denying his request to advertise his book on the platform.

Don't forget to RECOMMEND. Lets get the Truth out so that Light may shine bright in this dark place and Jesus Christ may be glorified.Even if the discussion is closed, please still RECOMMEND.


Lady Checkmate, Disqus - Faith & Religion 7 Comments [7/29/2017 7:56:41 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 129877

Right-wing commentator, conspiracy theorist and Donald Trump–obsessed sycophant Wayne Allyn Root kicked off his radio broadcast on Wednesday by heaping praise on President Trump’s decision to ban transgender people from serving in the military.

“Brilliant Donald Trump cements his support among every conservative, every Christian, every evangelical Christian and every straight white male in America,” Root crowed. “We are back! America is back! Thank God for Donald Trump. Thank God for common sense.”

“We’ve had it with this transgender issue,” he continued. “Do whatever you want in your bedroom, but you can’t go in the military, you cannot serve alongside the men and women who are fighting to save America [who] don’t want to be on the battlefront or in the fox holes with a he/she.”

“You don’t get to fight in the military,” Root proclaimed. “Where does the U.S. Constitution say you have a right to not know if you have a penis or a vagina and sit in a fox hole and shoot people? ‘Cause you don’t have what it takes to sit in a fox hole and shoot people and the other men who do, don’t want to sit in a fox hole with you; they’re scared of you. They’re not scared of murdering communists, they’re not scared of crazy, murdering, set-you-on-fire Muslims, they’re scared of you who don’t know if you have a penis or a vagina! That’s who scares most straight men! Sorry to tell you. They don’t want to be near you. It’s like a freaking Nightmare on Elm Street if they see a bunch of transgenders walking towards them who don’t know if they are a man or a woman.”

“Those days are done,” Root celebrated. “Real men are in charge of the United States of America again, not the sissies called liberal men. Those days are over. The military is for real men ’cause your children’s lives are on the line.”

Wayne Allyn Root, Right Wing Watch 15 Comments [7/29/2017 7:56:32 AM]
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Quote# 129875

WARNING: Don't take this chip implant because it could be the mark of the beast and if you take it you will be condemned to hell!.
Revelation 13:16 (King James Version) 16, And he [the AntiChrist] causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.


As I read page 1014 of H.R. 3590, it certainly seems like this health care reform bill includes a provision that discusses the potential for RFID implantable microchips. You can read the bill at this link. This provision speaks on the analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on various medical devices, including Class II devices.

The FDA has established standards for an implantable radiofrequency transponder systems (a/k/a RFID chips) that are Class II compliant (see above embedded document or on the FDA page). However, these RFID chips will have patient identification and health information. While the bill does not require mandatory RFID microchip implantation, it does establish an initial framework where the scope could be expanded with future legislation and regulation. For further information on one type of chip like this, see Microchip Implant Links All Medical Records, Credit History and Social Security Identification Numbers.


H.R. 3590 amends Section 519 of the Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act (21 U.S.C .360i). Here is the applicable language from H.R. 3590 (page 1,014):

(g)(1)The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the 'registry') to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that—
(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; and
(B) is—
(i) a class III device; or
(ii) a class II device that is implantable, life-supporting, or life-sustaining.

(2) In developing the registry, the Secretary shall, in consultation with the Commissioner of Food and Drugs, the Administrator of the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, the head of the Office of the National Coordinator for Health Information Technology, and the Secretary of Veterans Affairs, determine the best methods for—

(A) including in the registry, in a manner consistent with subsection (f), appropriate information to identify each device described in paragraph (1) by type, model, and serial number or other unique identifier;

(B) validating methods for analyzing patient safety and outcomes data from multiple sources and for linking such data with the information included in the registry as described in subparagraph (A), including, to the extent feasible, use of—
(i) data provided to the Secretary under other provisions of this chapter; and
(ii) information from public and private sources identified under paragraph (3);

(C) integrating the activities described in this subsection with—
(i) activities under paragraph (3) of section 505(k) (relating to active postmarket risk identification);
(ii) activities under paragraph (4) of section 505(k) (relating to advanced analysis of drug safety data); and
(iii) other postmarket device surveillance activities of the Secretary authorized by this chapter; and...

3(B) In this paragraph, the term 'data' refers to information respecting a device described in paragraph (1), including claims data, patient survey data, standardized analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of data from disparate data environments, electronic health records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the Secretary.

Last Days Now!, Youtube 1 Comments [7/29/2017 7:55:57 AM]
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Quote# 129872

I really appreciate it. The more I talk about the issue, the more receptive people are toward it. My experiences are leading me to believe that perhaps I am supposed to do something about it.

It is absolutely (and unfortunately) true that for most gay men it is simply a matter of time before they start living the lifestyle and leaving the Church. And for the most part, they feel like they have no alternative. It just doesn't make any sense to most people: be miserable for something you can hardly understand or be happy with things you can touch and feel. You have to ask yourself, if you were in that position, what would you do? Would it make any sense to sit alone at home missing out on your life? Those aren't the real options, of course, but it's the only thing gay people can see.

I don't think most members of the Church understand the unique sacrifice they expect from homosexuals. They'll say things like "well, the Church expects everyone to be chaste outside of marriage!" without really understanding what this means for the homosexual. A straight, chaste man always has a chance. There's hope. He'll find a girl that really gets him excited, he'll marry her, and he'll settle down, start a family, be happy. Even if he never does, there's always that hope. And even if he never does, he doesn't have to live his life completely outside of culture.

A homosexual on the other hand gets no choice. He's put in a situation where his only choice is celibacy for the rest of his life. There's often no hope at all. It's despair. It feels like holding your breath for the rest of your life. And you hardly even know why. Also, you never get to feel like you're really a part of culture, a part of real life. If you choose to follow the Church, you're a complete outsider. You're almost even a fake, a traitor. If you don't follow the Church, you lose your entire religion, and you spend the rest of your life mimicking the real thing.

I think the Church has a duty to explain these things to people, to show them why homosexuality is condemned, outside of appealing to scripture. She has a duty to defend philosophy that points to truth. Right now, I actually think she is failing. And I don't think it's a matter of just being full of more love, or anything like that. She has a duty to actually get down and explain the natural law.

Hurrah_for_Karamazov, r/Catholicism 13 Comments [7/28/2017 2:27:49 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 129869

Yes, the first thing is to "love God with all your heart and soul", then the rest follows.

Also I just want to say that I have actually been in reparative therapy. They do not "zap you" that is kind of a reference to early attempts at therapy done I don't even know how long ago. The therapy now has evolved and (if it is not outlawed) will continue to evolve, to build upon the desire to turn toward whatever heterosexual functionality a person has (most even gay men have some) and learn creative and even pleasant ways of turning away from same-sex fantasies, and making that turning away from evil a sort of routine habit that becomes "second nature". I have heard the analogy of ruts in a dirt road applied.

The more you drive through the rut with porn or even homosexual fantasy that you voluntarily stick with and daydream about, the deeper the rut gets. But if you learn to turn away from that "rut" and stay out of it as much as possible, God can and will fill in those ruts to some extent. It is different for everyone. Some have a sort of bisexuality, others have deep-seated homosexuality to the point where they are repulsed by heterosexuality. But avoiding inappropriate sexual thoughts and filling our minds with scripture and other good thoughts is key.

Lastly I just want to say that despite all God did for them, some of the Israelites ACTUALLY DID want to return to Egypt! It's a great lesson for us.

westNwewaxation, Catholic Answers Forum 7 Comments [7/28/2017 2:27:14 PM]
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Exactly, they think their hired mercenaries and shiny toys can beat revolutionaries who are motivated not by coin or by greed, but by a cosmic imperative. Those private security guards you toss a bit of wealth at every once in a while, their loyalty ends when their paycheck ends. But our loyalty never ends, we will fight you in every way possible.

It won't be long before every business owner, Liberal, and fascist is checking under their bed for Leftists every night. Hit-and-run attack, hit-and-run attacks, you're not physically removing us, we're physically removing YOU. We are the predator, and you are the prey. We are the artist, the concrete is the canvas, and your blood and guts will make a magnificent paint.

They don't understand that, we are not just an issue that they can throw their money at, we are an inevitability that can only be slowed down, but never stopped. They're going to find out very quickly just how brutal we can be. Step into your luxury car and you will find one of us in the backseat with a bit of piano wire waiting to choke you to death. Look under the suspension and you will find a square of semtex. Look on the rooftops and you will see a sniper. Look at the roads, for they will soon be nothing but rubble and ash, backing up traffic for miles. Look at your factory, and your factory is now rubble.

Telochi, r/CapitalismVSocialism 13 Comments [7/28/2017 9:41:50 AM]
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Lady Checkmate's headline: "The time has come for every red-blooded, God-loving patriot to sever ties with the Boy Scouts of America"

I absolutely agree with Todd. In fact, I personally stopped financially supporting them via their fundraisers (I would buy their popcorns, nuts, etc. at the booths outside of the stores) years ago when they decided to allow sexual immorality amongst their ranks. Their decision to put children at risk of being molested told me they didn't really care about the kids they were supposed to be helping and they didn't have Christian values.

The time has come for every red-blooded, God-loving patriot to sever ties with the Boy Scouts of America.

On Thursday the Boy Scouts (and those who identify as Boy Scouts) took it upon themselves to apologize for President Trump’s speech delivered to some 40,000 people at the National Scout Jamboree.

In doing so the leadership of the BSA has brought shame and disgrace upon what was once a storied and revered organization.

“I want to extend my sincere apologies to those in our Scouting family who were offended by the political rhetoric that was inserted into the jamboree. That was never our intent,” BSA Chief Scout Executive Michael Surbaugh wrote.

He went on to say the BSA regrets “that politics were inserted in the Scouting program.” You can read his entire screed by clicking here.

Who – exactly – was offended by the president’s remarks?

I wasn't offended in the least bit.

Don't forget to RECOMMEND. Lets get the Truth out so that Light may shine bright in this dark place and Jesus Christ may be glorified.Even if the discussion is closed, please still RECOMMEND.


Lady Checkmate, Disqus - Faith & Religion 15 Comments [7/28/2017 9:41:32 AM]
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Quote# 129862

Hi, I'm the person that was linked here. Just for fun, I think I'll be posting here for a bit since I do always enjoy the taste of capitalist tears. I'm actually surprised I was linked here since I don't think I said anything here that any of you already didn't know. It's called revolution for a reason, and it happens whether you like it or not. If you steal from the working class, if you steal from minorities, it's not robbery, it's restitution, in a way. We're not going to ask nicely if Mr. Moneybags will please turn over the money in his grasp that he has either directly or indirectly siphoned away from the workers.

There is no such thing as private property aside from the construct the State and the bourgeoisie use to amass wealth and increase their gains. There only is personal property, that which a person actively needs and is actively using. This is fairly basic stuff and I'm surprised that you all are so surprised that we don't take kindly to fat cats. Mr. Moneybags should count himself lucky that we're asking so politely and we don't just drag him out into the streets and hang him with a piano wire off the side of his mansion with the other plutocraps.

I know you're likely cutting yourself on all this edge right now, but there's just no better way to word it. I don't hide it at all, the capitalist and quasi-fascist system exists to perpetuate itself by any means necessary, violence, and lots of it is necessary to bring down this corrupt and illegitimate regime we find ourselves under as of now. I'm sure you all feel very secure in your belief that the day will not come where you'll have to atone for your various crimes, but that day is coming soon, sooner than you think.

I myself, I'm nothing to sneeze at, and you better hope you don't meet me when the Revolution is in full throttle, because I don't ask nicely, I go straight for the piano wire. I'm the bathtub gelignite in your Bentley. As far as I'm concerned, you either with us, against us, or you're out of our way entirely. You better hope you're in the 1st or 3rd category, because the 2nd category are dead birds walking. You'll probably laugh this off and go back to soaking in all that white privilege and crypto-fascism but trust me, you won't laugh if you're unfortunate enough to ever get within 500 meters of me.

Yeah yeah, I know, I'm a degenerate, I'm an edgelord, I'm an anarkiddie. We'll see whose who when the Day of the Rope comes, Cappie. For now, I'd say it's safe to say you've got four reasons you Shouldn't Fuck With Me.

Hermas, r/HistoryMemes 13 Comments [7/28/2017 9:41:17 AM]
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Quote# 129861

[Note: The original has been deleted, this screenshot is hosted on RationalWiki.]

[Transcript: "Wintery mix dumps record snow on New York." Where's the phony global warming that liberals have been yipping about?]

Andy Schlafly, Conservapedia 8 Comments [7/28/2017 9:41:05 AM]
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My Earthly Father’s House

As I continued forward, I saw many whom I knew within the crowd. Some were relatives who had died in years past. My earthly father was among them. But my eyes and attention were upon Him to whom I was going. I thought of Psalm 45:10—11: “Forget your people and your father’s house; then the King will desire your beauty.” I did feel that I was being transferred from my earthly father’s house to the abode of my Husband.

Also among those gathered were the angels assigned to me. Some I knew. Some I did not know. But I could tell that these were angels assigned to help me because they were smiling broadly.

My Father’s House

As I neared the little house of light created by my Father’s hands, I wanted to share my consent. I wanted to say, “Yes, yes, I agree,” to all three members of the Trinity. I felt as light as a wisp of air. I was a cornucopia of joy.

Jesus smiled at me as I passed one of the manifestations of the Holy Spirit stationed around the perimeter of my Father’s canopy.

My Assent

As I stepped beneath the canopy, I could contain my joy no longer. I began to walk through an acceptance. The movements were like a stately dance.

I circled Jesus three times, one encircling for each member of the Trinity. As I weaved gently between the mighty torches of the Holy Spirit, I overflowed with love for all Three.

Like Rebekah, I wanted to say, “I will go with this Man.” I began to sing a new song.

Song of the Bride

Hear, Thou great Redeemer blessed,
Deep within my heart find rest;
You who birthed me from Your side,
Then called me forth to be Your bride.
I exult in You alone,
And take Your heart to be my home.
Lover, Friend, Redeemer, Son,
Eternal Husband, make us one.

A Private Moment

When the third circuit had been completed, I took my place at the right of Jesus. I had publicly given my consent before a multitude of witnesses.

He looked deeply into my eyes and spoke privately to me:

Set Me as a seal upon your heart,

As a signet ring upon your finger.

Under His Covering

Gently a tallith settled over our heads. Jesus spoke again, this time in a manner that would bear public witness to all:

I betroth you to Me forever.

I betroth you to Me in righteousness and in Justice,

In loving-kindness and in compassion,

I betroth you to Me in faithfulness—and you will know God.

A Ring More Precious Than Gold

Then lifting my veil slightly, He took my right hand into both of His. He held my right index finger encased within His right hand as He spoke:

Behold, you are consecrated to Me.

A golden light encompassed my right index finger. From my finger the light spread over my whole being.

My Father’s hands of light became a brilliant cocoon. Besides Jesus, the only other one I could see was the Holy Spirit manifested in flaming towers. The light became more and more intense. I saw two white eagles cart wheeling.


Then slowly, as in a ritual dance of birds, I felt suspended within the dazzling light and fire. It was as though Jesus and I began a stylized, courtship dance. I felt that I was vapor that could be inhaled, vapor that could be carried into fire and light.

This was light that could be breathed. It was light that was alive. It went through me as if I was not there at all. I became one with the light—in a dance with it. It was as though within the light and fire, I too became light and fire.

We were vaporous—blending, circling, homogenized yet distinct, fused but separate. The two became entirely one, then separate again.

Although this dance began slowly, it accelerated to a lightning speed. The dance was lightning—lightning, fire, and light, glorious in the extreme.

Lullaby to Creation

Then, as if in some suspended silence, I began to hear my Father sing. It was creative sound, a lullaby from the heart of Him who sings to His creation, from Him who holds all things together by the word of His power.

He had given the universe its sounds so that all might sing back to Him. In this rare, suspended silence, I could hear that singular sound released from all creation. From deep within Himself, our God, like a father rocking his child, sang lovingly to His universe.

I sensed the perfect unity within the Godhead, their harmony. By being brought into the Godhead, I began to experience their unity. I shared in their oneness. Jesus was giving me the desires of my heart. As He had sworn, in greater measure I began to “know God.”

Return to the Ceremony

From this suspended place, I became conscious again of the ceremony. My Father’s canopied hands, the seven torches of fire, Jesus, the attendants, the angels, and the redeemed all came back into focus. I was once again under the canopy with Jesus.

A jubilant shout came from those assembled. Together they proclaimed:



The throne room erupted into celebration. Dancers began careening past us, reaching out to wish us well. Jesus touched hand after hand. I was smiling but somewhat dazed.

Jesus looked over at me.

Then speaking with affection to those who were reaching toward us, He said, “Please excuse us.”

Smiling, He took my hand and said, “Come.”

Anna Rountree, The Priestly Bride 7 Comments [7/28/2017 9:39:48 AM]
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