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Quote# 129943

I lived what I thought was a moral life before I was baptized Christian. I thought I was doing a pretty good job.

Once I actually studied Catholicism and understood God's law, I found that my morals were based only on society's morals and therefore, were subject to change. I was fortunate to be born and raised in a country whose morals are loosely based on God's law. However, they are not the same as God's law, but merely based on what we humans tolerate from one another. I would call it morality based on non-interference with others, rather than based on some deeper philosophy. Injury or death to those that do not have a voice to object, is morally acceptable in a society that bases it's morals on the lack of interference with others. I accepted the laws of my country as morals simply because they were the laws.

I didn't question or ponder much until I took a philosophy class which challenged me to work morality out for myself. Only then did I see the terrible shortcomings of laws based on non-interference with others. We are all connected in both sin and happiness. The closer I moved towards following God's laws, rather than society's, the happier and more fulfilled I became. The difference is like the darkness versus the light. It is our soul that longs for God's law. Once you become aware of the needs of your soul and it's natural longing for God, you can't be happy without Him. The happiness you thought you had pales in comparison

lutheran farmer, Catholic Answers Forum 0 Comments [7/30/2017 9:20:23 AM]
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Quote# 129942

Hello, Internet Tumor!
Greetings, Fellow mortals! I Am An Anti-Feminist,Furry,Brony,SJW, Ect. Blog. If You Do not like it, Guess what? I Don’t give to flying fucks! I’ll be here to bring as much suffering to SJWs, Feminists, Furries, Bronies, SJWs, ECT For the time I Am here! I Sure do hope I Am welcomed.

i-am-very-happy, Tumblr 19 Comments [7/30/2017 9:20:18 AM]
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Submitted By: The Reptilian Jew

Quote# 129941


I've been sending out the SOS signal asking for help from you guys; but the help hasn't come. A few of you have been helping and assisting me -just a FEW - while the overwhelming majority have just turned a blind eye.

The Eden Decoded website is down. It's offline indefinitely and will be until further notice.

It's down because I can't afford the high bills associated with marketing and promoting plus hosting the site every month, without help from those who go there to read the articles.

This is the 4th time my site has gone down in a year because people either won't buy my ebooks or they won't donate. That's a shame before God. Yet they go to my site and read every article, share my articles, preach my articles: but never give back.

And folks have the nerve to falsely accuse me of being greedy for money! No: I'm greedy for souls! But spiritual warfare is real; and I can't do this alone, nor am I supposed to. If you're eating from this page God expects you to help me in my labor; not leave me hanging in my hour of need!

If you claim to love my work and believe it's from God, I need you to go to the link provided below right now and sacrifice like I and my family do. GIVE.

None of my articles or ebooks are accessible to the public until I can get the site back up again. And that's just leaving me at the break even point. I really need much more than that.

Do what you can and do it speedily. Thanks to those who help and continue to do so. God sees your efforts and He's aware. So do we. God bless. Donate by going here: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr…

Mack Major, Facebook 29 Comments [7/30/2017 9:16:50 AM]
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Quote# 129933

(On a thread asking what Christians think of furries)

I think furry is a cartoon character. I don't believe that people can be one in real life. People can be very hairy but that just proves that person has a lot of hair. The amount of hair on your body doesn't make people any different because they still act and look human. You never see a person having dog ears. Animals are different in every way. God created us so that we are permanently human :amen:

And besides, people turning into furries is a evolution belief. I don't believe in that stuff, I only believe what God says because his word is the only thing that has evidence supporting it. I don't believe in something that sounds illogical. This is what I believe so don't try to get me to believe in evolution! You can't get me to change my mind, so don't bother!!!

healingrainbow, Christian Forums 17 Comments [7/30/2017 2:44:49 AM]
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Submitted By: DiarrheaMan

Quote# 129931

In a really awful attempt at humor, actress Mariam Sobh posted a video recently explaining why ex-Muslims speak out against the faith: They just want cash.

Not because they no longer believe in God.

Not because they think Islam in particular has tremendous potential for harm when people take the holy texts literally.

Not because they want other doubting Muslims to know there’s a safe place for them if they ever become “apostates.”

Nope. It’s only because they want to get in on some of that sweet ex-Muslim money.

It seems like everyone is looking for a way to make money fast! But what if I told you I could show you a way to make those dreams come true?

First, I have to ask you this. Do you happen to be a Muslim? If you answered yes, well, soon you won’t be. That’s because with this special program, you have to pretend you’re not one! Why? Well… hello! People who’ve had inside access to this faith are in high demand! You will be the go-to expert before you can say “Creeping Sharia.” All you have to do is join the “I’m Not A Muslim Anymore Tell-All Society” or INAMATAS.

She then lists the perks of being an ex-Muslim, including book deals, “six-figure speaking gigs,” VIP travel around the world, and political positions.

There are testimonials from two “members” of IMAMATAS who brag about some of those perks. In between, Sobh returns to say, “All you have to do is denounce your faith in a series of social media rants and wait for the trolls to bite! Once your story goes viral and receive at least one death threat, you’re a candidate!”

She closes with the line, “We do take a 90% cut on all speaking engagements.”

Mariam Sobh, Patheos 13 Comments [7/30/2017 2:42:13 AM]
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Quote# 129929

Anonymous, Twitter 15 Comments [7/30/2017 2:41:10 AM]
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Quote# 129928

Anonymous, Twitter 15 Comments [7/30/2017 2:40:47 AM]
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Quote# 129927

Hmm, now why would someone want children to stay young and prepubescent for a longer period of time while also exploring the depths of sexual deviance? I just can't quite put my finger on that, who benefits from sexualized prepubescents with poor mental health? Drawing a huge blank here...

The_Seasons_Upon_Us, Reddit - r/CringeAnarchy 9 Comments [7/30/2017 2:39:37 AM]
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Quote# 129926

[The following quote comes to us through what I assume is a Messianic Jewish site. The stupidity here is floating atop a cesspool I dare you to explore. I did, and a lot of it -- e.g., the last lines of the quote here -- is stupid to the point where it's nearly unforgivable.]

I Love My Husband More Than My Kids

"Yes, you read that right! This statement only comes as a shock because we live in a culture where at special family dinners the kids have moved from sitting at the extra card table to the head of the table! Never think that you are doing your children a favor by prioritizing them over your husband. You’re not. It’s out of order. When can disorder bring harmony?

"First and foremost, it is your husband who has been assigned to guide you, protect you, nourish your bond and who is commanded to love you as Christ loves the Church! This is by far a much more superior love than that of a parent and child.

"In Genesis, it is written that the husband and wife are ONE flesh, not the kids and the mom. Our kids may come from within us, but we are not ONE with them."

Parah, for 'True Women of Righteous living', "True Women" 7 Comments [7/30/2017 2:39:18 AM]
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Submitted By: The Angry Dybbuk

Quote# 129925

Craig's headline (on Lady Checkmate's channel): CHIPPED !

Ok now I don't like to start a mass panic, but I was looking through the MSN web page and saw a story on "Who is ready to get Chipped" I really don't like this at all. I believe in God word and when you have any kind of mark on you. You can't even buy or sell your way into heaven. A small Wisconsin's company announced that they would start enplaning microchips into it employees. now this chipped doesn't have a GPS so they say. but its like a smartphone where you can buy products on line. What do you think about this? Who wants to get 'chipped'?


craigwilliams, Disqus - Faith & Religion 8 Comments [7/30/2017 2:39:09 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 129923

One of the problems I have with “Lilo and Stitch”] is Disney’s definition of “family.” I do empathize with two orphaned sisters, but this is a typical Disney backstory. We see it over and over again—the absence of parents. We also see the family redefined to include an adopted genetically engineered alien and a cute boyfriend. It is the slick political blending of “It takes a village to raise an alien” and “Leave no alien behind.” Once again pity overpowers our sense of reason and we miss the long-term implications of cloning as a solution for adoptive parents.

We, also, miss current campaign to redefine family as any collection of individuals that love each other. My final problem is in the area of imitative behavior. I watched Lilo in her frustration fight with a girl and then bite her on the arm. The next day I was in Wal-mart and observed a girl bite her brother on the arm after calling him one of the names reinforced in this film “stupid head.” The mother was in horror and asked her daughter where she learned such inappropriate behavior. She replied that she saw Lilo do it when yesterday when Grandma took them to the movies. This is only one of many scenes with behavior that is unacceptable. Our children deserve better role models. All I can say is “be careful little eyes what you see.” I strongly recommend parents to skip this one.
—Douglas Downs

Douglass Downs, Christian Answer  13 Comments [7/30/2017 2:37:56 AM]
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Quote# 129921

A careful viewer would have noticed the unmasked attempt by Disney to promote their non-traditional “family” unit—what’s next, gay parents? In my opinion that child would have been better off in an adopted family than in this dysfunctional setting where the sister leaves her home alone with pots cooking on the stove. Also, the child (Lilo, who appears to be only about 8), had disgusting pictures hanging on her bedroom wall—half-dressed obese people in various positions including a rear-view of a large bottom, clad only in panties! Her language toward her sister and even a comment to the teenage boy about how her sister likes his (slang for rear end) is just simply inappropriate. Would you want your 8 year old daughter talking like that? My advice to Christian parents who truly care about keeping the crud out of.

My Ratings: [Very Offensive / 1½]
—Eileen, age 45

Eileen, Christian Answer  13 Comments [7/29/2017 3:24:24 PM]
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Quote# 129920

I have no idea if this is supposed to be a joke or not. I surely hope so, because it's been giving me the best laughing fit I've had in years.

Leo, I'm over the age of thirty, have two kids, work a job, support my family, and live in a great amazing apartment. I also support stealing from bosses, wrecking capitalist property, robbing banks, attacking the pigs, and countless other illegal acts.

Your article is ridiculous, and I'm happy to be the first person to comment on this waste of pixels on my computer screen.

Can we settle this once and for all? Anarchism, by it's definition, is an illegal ideology. There is a law in the United States, known as the sedition act, that makes it illegal to work, agitate, or organize against the existence of the United States government. If you could somehow that anarchists don't want to attack the existence of the U.S. government, even in purely verbal terms and through literature, then, I'm sorry my friend, you're not an anarchist. You're a social-democrat.

Whether or not you think it's a good idea to attack capitalist property or not, or to engage in clandestine acts, to argue that anarchists should break the law or engage in illegal action is to negate anarchism itself as even an ideology.

Revolution isn't legal. It's not safe or pretty or easy to fit into some comfortable box. I'm sorry you have decided that you want to fit into some secure comfortable life now that you're almost thirty, but for most of us in this country, we don't live a comfortable or secure life. We struggle as it is against precarity and a precarious life. That will be our reality for as long as we can work. It's not like I can retire. When I'm no longer able to work, I can either die, or live illegally.

Dearest Leo, your privilege disgusts me. Because really, that's all this post is, just a privileged brat's rant.

Anonymous, AnarchistNews 12 Comments [7/29/2017 3:24:18 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 129919

Rumor has it that High Wizards are hand-picked by satan. I don’t know what the criteria is. I had done magick from the age of 10 and became a High Wizard when I was about 21 years old. I had been in the World Church of Satan for about 3 years. I had seen a High Wizard back when I was a child, but I didn’t know that that is what I was looking at. The look is very unique. It’s a top-hat, a wand or a cane, the face painted like a corpse, and an old-school tuxedo of sorts. If you go to YouTube, and look up Pink’s Like a Pill, there’s a High Wizard that appears in her video four times. The third and fourth time the wizard appears on the screen, you can see that he’s casting a spell. A lot of people seeing that video would see him, but not recognize what they’re looking at. But that’s the look.

Now, satan picks you, and for a cult that big, there’s a CEO and a board of directors. So, the CEO sends word to you, you meet with the CEO and the board of directors, and they tell you that you’ve been chosen. You’re given a book that tells you what your job duties as a high wizard are, and you decide whether you want to do it or not, though I’ve never known anybody to turn it down.

As the high wizard, you’re the go-to guy in the satanic coven, so most people either call someone that they know in that coven or they’ll call because we did a lot of work with the Illuminati as well, so they’ll call them. This is all, obviously people that have to be in the know of these kinds of things, but you get invited to participate. The World Church of Satan isn’t the only organization that does satanic sacrifices in [these facilities]. There are other witchcraft organizations, such as wiccans, who are really involved in committing abortions inside these [high profile facilities]. You sometimes get invited to do the ritual abortion by the director of the facility or some high-up administrator, or sometimes the doctor is a satanist and they’ll invite you to come in and participate in an abortion or they will want to do a ceremony at the end of the day.


Now, at the end of the day, every day, satanic groups do like a Black Mass service, usually around midnight, and it will be an extended service that will last about 2 or 3 hours where they dedicate all the babies that were killed that day to satan. It doesn’t matter why women go in for the abortion, all the babies get dedicated to satan at the end of the day.

The first one I did was about 3 months before turning 15. It took place in a farm house that was surprisingly more sterile than many of the other abortion clinics I had done abortions in. There was an abortion doctor and an abortion nurse. There was a woman in stirrups about to have a baby who was surrounded by 13 top members of our coven, which were all high priests and priestesses. I was inside the circle with the woman and the abortion doctor. All the adult members of my coven were there. There were several women kneeling on the floor, swaying back and forth chanting “our body and ourselves” over and over again. Off to the side were several male members of our coven all chanting and praying. The ritual started at 11:45 at night, and the spell began at midnight, which is the witching hour, and the actual death of the child happened at 3:00 am, which is called the devil’s hour.

My whole role in all of this was to insert the scalpel. I didn’t necessarily have to do the actual killing … what was important was that I get blood on my hands. So, I had to get somebody’s blood on my hands, whether the woman’s or the baby’s, and then the doctor finishes out the procedure. In that particular one, which was probably one of the more heinous abortions I had ever done, the doctor reached in, ripped the baby out and threw it onto the floor where these women were swaying. The women looked like they were possessed, and when the doctor threw the baby out to them, they cannibalized the baby.

Zachary King, Lepanto Institute 18 Comments [7/29/2017 1:40:43 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 129918

An ex-Satanist who is now a Christian and oversees a ministry that reaches out to occultists believes that American society is "submerged in the occult."

Jeff Harshbarger, head of Refuge Ministries and author of the book Dancing With the Devil, told The Christian Post in an interview that characteristics of occult belief are commonplace in American culture.

"Our society is submerged in the occult; Harry Potter has filled the minds of our children for a decade and vampirism meets our teens with the illusions of grandeur. Witchcraft went mainstream decades ago, and Wicca is its offspring," said Harshbarger.

"'Christian' witchcraft is on the up-rise and new age spirituality fills the church pews. Time has come for the church to be equipped and be effective. This is why I wrote Dancing With the Devil."

Harshbarger does not consider this to be a recent problem, as he sees occultism as being "introduced in the Garden of Eden, when Satan tempted Adam and Eve to seek hidden knowledge, instead of walking in obedience to God."

Harshbarger's own experiences with the occult led him to open a ministry meant to reach out to those involved in practices like Satanism and Wicca. These experiences were written about by Harshbarger in detail in 2005 with the book From Darkness to Light and also mentioned in his more recent book Dancing With The Devil.

Harshbarger began his entry into the occult via the usage of a Ouija board. By the late 1970s, he was a practicing Satanist who lived with a group of likeminded people in Indiana. According to Harshbarger, he was possessed by demons and yet God still reached out to him. After much struggle and an apparent divine experience in the backyard of the place he shared with fellow Satanists, Harshbarger began to leave the practice.

"I wrote in From Darkness to Light that I had to go to six churches before anyone offered to pray for me. I walked into the churches a demon possessed individual looking for freedom. The church was unprepared to meet me where I was," said Harshbarger to CP.

"Thank God I met Harry and Jo Richardson who offered prayer and that prayer was the prayer that released me from my demonic bondage. We established Refuge Ministries in 2001 to do just that; to meet individuals who are trapped in darkness right where they are ... and to pray for them."

Harshbarger continued his efforts to help churches understand the nature of those involved in the Occult with his book Dancing With the Devil. Released in September 2012, the book is a collection of accounts from Christians once involved in some branch of occult practice. The preface and chapter one were written by Harshbarger. Other chapters were written by those who went through differing yet similar experiences with the occult in America. Many were brought up in Christian homes and had loving parents.

"Many people think they have to go out of their way to encounter an occult follower," wrote Harshbarger. "The truth is, we probably encounter someone who is or has been involved in the occult each day among the dozens of people we interact with. Dancing With the Devil was written to educate the body of Christ with the knowledge of who the occultist is and what they practice. It will equip believers to reach out and minister effectively to those in the occult."

"The church has to be prepared for anyone in all kinds of conditions to walk in their doors and be more effective in ministering to them. Not only that, but we must understand them in order to reach them where they are, if they don't walk in our door." Harshbarger told CP that since its release in 2012 the response to the book has been "tremendous."

"Dancing With the Devil has been in the top 100 Christian books in the U.K. and has been received in the U.S. in a powerful way. We are receiving responses daily from former occultists how the book has helped them," he said. "There was a young man who is simply on fire for God who took the challenge of the book very seriously. He read the book and the next day led a Wiccan to the saving grace of Jesus Christ! That is effectively reaching and ministering to those trapped in the darkness of the occult."

Jeff Harshbarger, Christian Post 12 Comments [7/29/2017 1:40:23 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 129917

How Does Dancing Violate God’s Instructions Concerning Purity?

Immodesty: God’s Word teaches that women are to dress in modest clothing which become women professing godliness – 1 Timothy 2:9-10. Describing his dancing establishment the General Manager of the “Amnesia” stated, “People have been known to get, shall we say, rather uninhibited at these parties. Not that that’s necessarily bad or anything. Here, partial or full nudity is a plus – this is South Beach, after all.” (The Columbus Dispatch, October 14, 1995, Columbus Ohio)

While all dances may not go to this extreme, immodesty is a characteristic of the modern dance.

Drugs: The same General Manager had this to say about drugs, “And as far as booze, absolutely. But only in plastic cups, and no beer bottles. You want drugs? Okey-Dokey. But if you get busted, baby, you’re on your own.” (The Columbus Dispatch, quoted above).

Dancing is sexually oriented: Ellen Switzer in the Ladies Home Journal, November 1981 states, “Sex does not have to conclude with orgasm to be satisfying. Sex therapist report that touch is often an end in itself. So too, is kissing, even dancing. These sexual activities can be…”

The Latin dance “Lambada” is described as, “It is a close dance, with male and female partners entwined around each other, grinding their hips together… This is about the closest you can get to having sex without actually doing it.” (The Herald-Citizen, Cookeville, TN, March 15, 1990)

The modern dance violates God’s will for man. In Galatians 5:19-21 Paul identifies the works of the flesh which can keep man out of the kingdom of God. One of these works is lasciviousness. This term is defined by Thayer in his Greek lexicon as, “Wanton (acts, or) manners, as filthy works, indecent bodily movements, unchaste handling of males and females.” The lexicon of Arndt and Gingrich defines lasciviousness as: licentiousness, which is defined as, “Lacking legal or moral restraint, disregarding sexual restraints.” There is no doubt that the modern dance which is engaged in today fits the definition of lasciviousness and is condemned as a work of the flesh. To substantiate the lascivious nature of the modern dance monitor the dance programs on television.

International Bible Teaching Ministries, International Bible Teaching Ministries 18 Comments [7/29/2017 1:39:54 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 129916

Who, REALLY, is this man we affectionately call Santa Claus?

What do we REALLY know about Santa?

Is Santa just a jolly ol’, harmless, friendly fellow?

Or is there something or someone else hiding behind jolly ol’ St. Nick?

Before we look at Santa, let’s begin with some basic Bible facts:

The Bible clearly teaches a powerful, rebellious, subtle, evil being called the Devil, Lucifer or Satan.
Revelation 12:9
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
The Bible teaches Satan rebelled against God. And Satan’s reason for rebellion is to be God. Satan’s goal is to de-throne God and persuade mankind to rebel against God.
Isaiah 14:12-14
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
The Bible clearly teaches Satan’s primary attack is the most vulnerable. In Luke 10:19, Jesus Christ compares Satan to lightning, "I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven". Lightning, like Satan, always travels the path of least resistance. The Bible also likens the devil to a "roaring lion" The lion is a "predator of opportunity". The lion looks for the injured, the youngest, the smallest, or the weakest – the one with the least ability to run or fight. So it is with Satan. He’s "seeking" those "whom he may devour".
1 Peter 5:8
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
The great German Reformer, Martin Luther writes in his Table Talks:

"The devil plagues and torments us in the place where we are most tender and weak. In Paradise, he fell not upon Adam, but upon Eve."
(The Table Talk of Martin Luther, #424)
The most vulnerable and least resistance are our children. It’s no accident that the Lord Jesus Christ distinctively warns several times against harming or offending these "little ones".

Matthew 18:1-6
1 At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?
2 And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,
3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.
6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
The Lord Jesus invites, and encourages little children to come unto him. The younger years are by far the most spiritually fruitful in the life-cycle of an individual.

Mark 10:13-15
13 And they brought young children to him, that he should touch them: and his disciples rebuked those that brought them.
14 But when Jesus saw it, he was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.
15 Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein.
Luke 18:15-17
15 And they brought unto him also infants, that he would touch them: but when his disciples saw it, they rebuked them.
16 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.
17 Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein.

Without question the most fertile time in the average persons’ life for receiving and trusting the Lord Jesus is the pre-teen years. Any church bus worker or youth worker knows young children are very receptive to the gospel of Jesus Christ. For them that "child like" faith is natural. It’s what the Lord Jesus described in Matthew 10:15. As we get older; the sensual, youthful lusts and logical, carnal mind begin to dominate our minds. And as that happens, our heart becomes hardened and seared to the spiritual things of God.

Barna Research Group published a survey conducted among teenagers titled Third Millennium Teens. Under the subtitle "Displacing the Myths", the report said:

"The Myth: the teen years are evangelistically productive.
The Reality: if they're not saved by age 13, they probably never will be.
The report goes on to say, "The data shows clearly that the prime evangelistic years are those before a person becomes a teenager." (George Barna, Third Millennium Teens, p. 65)

If the most productive time of salvation are the pre-teen years, and if the pre-teen years are the most vulnerable – does it not stand to reason that Satan would fiercely attack this time? Can we not see the overwhelming evidence of this Satanic attack on our children? From the sexual, sensual music of Brittney Spears, or Nsync, to the occult and witchcraft of Harry Potter – there is an attack aimed directly at our children. It’s blasting from the TV, the music, the Internet, the peer pressure, the public schools – Satan’s attack literally "seeks" to "devour them" into every "nook and cranny".

Many parents have been "lullabied to sleep" with the deception that our children are innocently immune to the attack of Satan. There’s a false security that believes our children will naturally "grow out of it" or "they’re just sowing their wild oats" or maybe "they’re just being kids". But the Bible tells a different story. In Mark chapter 9, God details a frightening occurrence. A man brings his "spirit possessed" son to the Lord Jesus Christ.

Mark 9:17-29
17 And one of the multitude answered and said, Master, I have brought unto thee my son, which hath a dumb spirit;
18 And wheresoever he taketh him, he teareth him: and he foameth, and gnasheth with his teeth, and pineth away: and I spake to thy disciples that they should cast him out; and they could not.
19 He answereth him, and saith, O faithless generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him unto me.
20 And they brought him unto him: and when he saw him, straightway the spirit tare him; and he fell on the ground, and wallowed foaming.
21 And he asked his father, How long is it ago since this came unto him? And he said, Of a child.
22 And ofttimes it hath cast him into the fire, and into the waters, to destroy him: but if thou canst do any thing, have compassion on us, and help us.
23 Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.
24 And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief.
25 When Jesus saw that the people came running together, he rebuked the foul spirit, saying unto him, Thou dumb and deaf spirit, I charge thee, come out of him, and enter no more into him.
26 And the spirit cried, and rent him sore, and came out of him: and he was as one dead; insomuch that many said, He is dead.
27 But Jesus took him by the hand, and lifted him up; and he arose.
28 And when he was come into the house, his disciples asked him privately, Why could not we cast him out?
29 And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting.
It’s interesting the apostles could not cast out this "kind" (vs 29). Jesus said, "This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting." What kind of possession was it? Is that why the Lord Jesus asked the man "How long is it ago since this came unto him?" And the man answered, "Of a child". Possibly, these "hard to cast out" kind are those that enter in a child. Is it because the "possession" reaches so deep and so strong that they’re almost impossible to remove?

In Proverbs 22:6, the Bible explains the lifelong fruits of training a young child in the way he should go. That early training is so strong and so deep – as that child grows and matures – they will not depart from it.

Proverbs 22:6
Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
But. . . The flip side is: if that same child is trained by the ways of Satan and the world, chances are that child will "not depart from it." George Harrison, a devout follower of the Hindu god, Krishna, understood this life-long influence, Harrison told Rolling Stone Magazine:

"The main thing is to get the kids. . . nail you when you’re young and brainwash you, then they’ve got you for the rest of your life."
George Harrison, Beatles, (Loose Talk, Rolling Stone Magazine, p. 70)
It has been stated the foundation of a child is shaped by the time that child is five-years-old, maybe sooner. Without question, the early pre-teen or "Santa Claus" years are some of the most important in a person's life-long development. It has been truthfully said, "The hand that rocks the cradle controls the world."

That brings us to Santa. . .

Where does Santa Claus fit in the life of a young child? What about the teaching of Santa Claus in the psyche of a child? Is there more to jolly old St. Nick than meets the eye? Is Santa a clever, seemingly harmless, subtle (see Genesis 3:1) attempt to question the truthfulness of God? Is Santa the handiwork of Satan?

May I remind you of the "harmless" question, the subtle serpent, asks Eve in the garden? "Yea, hath God said,. . .?" So slight. . . So simple. . . And yet so deadly. . .

Not only that. . . Satan’s attack is not necessarily evil, or bad. In fact, it can be good, or even pleasant. The subtle temptation of Genesis reveals Satan’s clever "good and pleasant" message.

Genesis 3:6
And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
As Eve saw the forbidden fruit, it was "good" and it was "pleasant" – and yet it was deadly.

The Devil is a "master of disguise". He can take that which looks good and pleasant, and seemingly so innocent – and make it so deadly. The Bible says in 2 Corinthians 11:14, "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light" He doesn’t appear with horns and a pitch fork breathing fire. He might just appear as a pleasant, friendly, fellow, with "a broad face and a round little belly, That shook when he laughed, like a bowl full of jelly. . ."

I believe, and will prove, Santa Claus is a subtle, deadly attack on our children to confuse, doubt and rob their God-ordained "child like" faith. Satan knows, if he can somehow get that child through those fruitful early years without trusting the Lord Jesus Christ – his goal of eternal damnation in hell increases substantially.

Terry Watkins, Bible Believers  23 Comments [7/29/2017 12:20:15 PM]
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"Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts." (Rev. 9:21) "And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived." (Rev. 18:23)

The above scripture comes from the book of Revelation, the final book of God's word, which deals with the end-time. One might expect murder, fornication, and theft to be widespread sins in the last days because we see a continual increase of these sins with every passing year. But notice that a fourth sin is mentioned as well: sorcery. According to God's word, we can expect to see an increase in sorcery as the second coming of the Lord Jesus Christ draws near.

According to Webster, the word "sorcery" means "magic; enchantment; witchcraft; divination by the assistance or the supposed assistance of evil spirits, or the power of commanding evil spirits."

One does not have to look very far to see that God's word is being fulfilled before our very eyes. Along with numerous other Biblical signs that our Lord's return is near, we are also witnessing a tremendous increase in occultism. Much of this is obviously due to the way many books, movies, and television programs are glamorizing such evil practices as witchcraft and wizardry. God's word clearly condemns all such practices, yet millions of people, especially young people, are being led to believe that it is possible to be a good witch or a good wizard. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Satan is playing a very nasty trick on our children. Books such as the Harry Potter series are presenting two kinds of witches and wizards: evil ones and good ones. The books and movies offer a "built-in" contrast so that no one looks elsewhere for a contrast. That is, the "good" witches look very good compared to the "evil" witches. The psychological effect is that the mind of the reader or viewer becomes satisfied with the "fair balance" and sees no reason to look outside the movie or book for more accurate information. Consequently, millions of people will read a Harry Potter book and never read the Bible to see what God says about witches and wizards. For example, after watching the movie Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, one young girl said, "Yes, there is witchcraft, but it is mostly goodwitchcraft." Good witchcraft? Who said it was good witchcraft? God certainly didn't give anyone this impression, so it must have came from the movie or the books. Sadly, this young girl has only been given one side of the story: the Hollywood side.

While expecting everyone to be open-minded and allow their children to be influenced by occultism, the promoters of this wickedness have maintained a very closed mind by never telling anyone what God's word says about witchcraft and wizardry. After reading this tract, you will know God's side. Hopefully, you will be smart enough to realize that you've been deceived by filthy rich producers and publishers. They've fed you a massive lie, and you've paid them for it. The money they received from you will help empower them to sell their lies to others in the form of more books and movies.

The Bible is quite clear: there are no good witches or wizards:

"There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee. Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God. For these nations, which thou shalt possess, hearkened unto observers of times, and unto diviners: but as for thee, the LORD thy God hath not suffered thee so to do." (Deuteronomy 18:10-14)

Now, think about that, friend. Either God lied to you in the Bible, or Satan is lying to you in the books and movies. God said that Sabrina the Teenage Witch is an abomination. God said that Harry Potter and his friends are an abomination. Do you have the courage to believe God?

"Ye shall not eat any thing with the blood: neither shall ye use enchantment, nor observe times . . . Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God." (Lev. 19:26, 31) "And the soul that turneth after such as have familiar spirits, and after wizards, to go a whoring after them, I will even set my face against that soul, and will cut him off from among his people . . . A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them." (Lev. 20:6, 27)

Have you seen any good witches or good wizards in those passages? Let's try again:

"Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God." (Gal. 5:19-21)

Have you seen any good witches yet? Well, let's keep trying:

"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." (Exo. 22:18)

Notice that God doesn't make any distinction between good witches and evil witches. Every witch, every wizard, and every sorcerer in the Bible is evil in the sight of God! Notice Acts 13:8-10:

"But Elymas the sorcerer (for so is his name by interpretation) withstood them, seeking to turn away the deputy from the faith. Then Saul, (who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him, and said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?"

Witches, wizards, and sorcerers are children of Satan. They may look cute and make you laugh and cry, but God said they are an abomination to Him. Furthermore, rather than seek entertainment from these evil characters, we have been commanded to separate ourselves from them and expose them for the workers of iniquity that they really are. Please note Ephesians 5:11: " And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them." No fellowship! It's a sin to read their books or watch their movies. In the Bible, God's people hated witchcraft so much that they burnedbooks containing this evil (Acts 19:18-20), yet today we have people entertaining themselves with it. David said, "I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me." (Psa. 101:3) Friend, don't comfort yourself with the idea that it's okay to look at witchcraft as long as you don't practice it. No wicked thing should be set before your eyes, and no wicked thought should enter your heart (Mat. 5:28; II Cor. 10:5). God is holy, and He will hold all men accountable to His holy infallible words.

If you have been deceived by the devil's crowd, why not turn from this deception right now and ask God's forgiveness? Witchcraft is a great sin in the sight of God, any type of witchcraft, but no sin is too great for God's forgiveness.

God sent His only begotten Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, to pay for all your sins: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16) Jesus came, He died, and then He rose again for your justification. Today, Jesus Christ sits at the right hand of God in Heaven waiting for you to turn to Him and trust Him as Lord and Saviour.

The Bible declares that you are a sinner by birth, but you may be a saint by having a new birth: "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." (Rom. 3:23) "Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me." (Psa. 51:5) "Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again." (John 3:7) "Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever." (I Pet. 1:23)

God wants to forgive you for all your sins and make you a new creature in Christ! II Corinthians 5:17 says, "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." Friend, the excitement of reading a book or watching a movie about witchcraft is nothing compared to the excitement and joy of having all your sins forgiven by God Almighty! There is no greater power than the power of God, so why waste your time with the lesser powers of witchcraft and wizardry? There are millions of true Christians who have left the dark world of occultism and entered the lighted path of righteousness, and you can be next.

God's word says in Romans 10:9-10, "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." Romans 10:13 says, "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."

Friend, what has the major film producers and book publishers done to save your soul from a burning Hell? They've done nothing but bring you closer to Hell! If you died and went to Hell today, the occult producers and publishers wouldn't shed a tear for you. They would go right on damning more people just like you. However, if you turn to Jesus Christ today and trust Him as your Saviour, the angels of Heaven will rejoice! "Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth." (Luke 15:10)

Who will be your Lord? Will it be Jesus Christ or Satan? Why not bow your head right now and ask God's forgiveness for all your sins? You have His promise of forgiveness, so why not do it? Become a child of God today and begin living for God. After all, tomorrow may be too late.

James Melton, Bible Believers  14 Comments [7/29/2017 12:20:11 PM]
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A self-proclaimed “ghostbuster” was arrested in Guangzhou, Guangdong Province after he charged a young woman 20,000 yuan ($3,279) to exorcise the ghosts in her vagina with his penis.

Police arrested Huang Jianjun on August 1 after the woman, A Xin, called police one day after having sex with Huang, reported the Southern Metropolis Daily.

A Xin, a spice shop employee, consulted Huang after hearing he could advise her how to attract her boss, whom she had a crush on.

The two agreed to meet at a hotel room, where Huang asked her to strip naked and lay on the bed for an examination.

Huang then convinced A Xin to have intercourse after explaining that ghosts in her vagina are preventing her boss from falling in love with her - ghosts he could only catch with his penis. Huang explained that he had sacrificed his virginity for the exorcism.

Huang later told authorities he had long lost the ability to have an erection due to diabetes.

Huang Jianjun, Global Times 21 Comments [7/29/2017 12:20:04 PM]
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Submitted By: Hu's On First

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It is disgraceful to allow any abortion unless for life threating health issues (not mental health) of the mother and/or baby. Second and third trimester abortions are just plain and simple murder. There is no excuse for a civilized nation to allow.

Some women use abortion as a form of birth control even in the era of the " morning after" pill. They refuse to accept responsibility for their actions. They are lazy, useless waste of skin.

pete, Disqus 13 Comments [7/29/2017 12:19:47 PM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

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[OP of "The Morality of Physical Removal."]

Morals are always and everywhere the compulsion and/or prohibition of human action. Non-human objects do not act and have no morality assigned to them. A human who performs an act which converts him to a non-human entity, that is to say 'the human commits suicide', is no longer the subject of morals. For morality to be universal and consistent, it MUST have a prohibition on suicide.

From this we can extrapolate property rights and their constraints. Man must use external objects to ensure his survival. Water, food, etc. These resources are scarce, as are all things. No two actors can use the same object for different purposes. Attempting to do so results in conflict. This conflict, can only be resolved with the death of one party or the yeilding by one party to the other. How this 'yeilding' occurs in the least conflictual way is how we define property rights.

There are times, such as a lifeboat scenario, when we must go against the usual norms of property because we cannot allow ourselves to die. For allowing yourself to die goes against the reason for having property in the first place.

Now, to explain how this ties into physical removal, production under division of labor with property is more productive than self sufficient isolation or with communal property. This increase in production is necessary to protect ourselves against future hazards such as meteors or cancer. We need to be prepared for these things, so to speak. Therefore it is necessary to remove Democrats and Communists from a libertarian social order.

CapitalJusticeWarior, Reddit - r/Physical_Removal 10 Comments [7/29/2017 12:19:44 PM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 129907

I guess the question's purpose is mostly to tackle the assumptions of Christians who prefer a pluralistic society over a theocracy. I understand theocracies have failed repeatedly throughout history, but if the intention of the Church is to be in communion with God, shouldn't our government be that way also? Even if we attempt to have a theocracy in America and fail, wouldn't that be better than a democratic society based on the popular opinion of heretics, apostates, & infidels?

ExodusMe, Christian Forums 14 Comments [7/29/2017 12:06:04 PM]
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Nintards shit on Forces Irrationally

I am puzzled by the overt hatred this game is getting. Where was this bile when Lost Mind showed it had no logic to it’s content and was strictly a gameplay game? Where was this bile when Sonic Bust came out with a racially offensive Knu- … a horribly redesigned cast with no fucks given to quality control?

Actually, no. I think… the answer lies strictly with Nintendo fans. Afterall, the depths of their madness has reached critical mass and…. I believe I have an answer to that. Thy arrogance be quenched.

Recently, I watched a vid from ghetto-hog (the guy who raged on IGN twice about their hatred of the original Sonic games) as he did what was a reaction vid (can’t BS what it is, man) on some punk British asshole named “Nintendo Life”, who made a video on why Sonic Forces is terrible. However, he spent the video spreading propaganda and forcing some comedic gestures to compensate for his lack of any real critique. It’s clear at this point that the internet isn’t even hiding it’s trollish behavior. They can’t even pretend their disgust is genuine.

Why is that? This guy’s complaint is that Sonic is too fast. And I ask when does the stupidity end? One of the major selling points was that Sonic was the fastest thing alive. He was a tech demo to show the faster processing power of the Genesis, for Bast’s sake. Criticising Sonic for what it’s known for is an oxymoron. Then again, Nintendo fans have terrible reflexes thanx to a steady diet of slow paced Nintendo games over the years that anything with more than 30fps scares the hell out of them. Why else would they be insane enough to proclaim that Brawl is superior to Melee? That would explain the half-baked praise of Colors and Lost Mind.


I missed the SDCC panel on Mania, but what they talked about actually gave me hope. So Robotnik’s machines are acting automa-…. autotono-… by their own free will. Generic as all hell, but actually gives this game something to work with. Hopefully Metal Sonic as a final boss? Also the prospect of a 3D special stage, while counter-intuitive, also gives me hope that they’ll reuse the one from Saturn 3D Blast…. why not?

But back to this Forces thing, it seems like most of the toxic Nintards have taken up their pitch forks and are crucifying the game every chance they get. You know something is wrong when the doggone CaC is coming under fire for merely existing. But…. I think I know why. For years and years, the Nintards have longed for Sonic yo be bought out by Nintendo. Not because they believe Nintendo can do better, but because they would feel some kind of victory was gained.


But now… why does Forces blow sand in their cunts? Well, as we’ve already discovered, Nintendo fans care about content more than they’d admit… and Forces moves away from what i’d call the “Levity Standard”.

Notice that Nintendo fans don’t talk about Metroid? Or Resident Evil? Or F-Zero? Star Fox? Nah, they always talk a great deal about the happy go lucky crap. Mario’s unparralel greatness, to Wind Waker’s artistic splendor. To them, Nintendo is not only great because of it’s magnificent gameplay (that they fail to care about), but it’s also being able to maintain that greatness without going the route of “grimdark”. Nintards are always ready to bash on the likes of Call of Duty or similar shit for being anything other than rainbows and fuzzballs. It’s a religion to them. When Iizuka went insane and swore to coddle the mentally disturbed, he made sure to hit their sweet spots by having the games from 2010-2015 be as gay as possible to appease their sensibilities, convincing them and no one else that Nintendo’s way of content worked for all.

Forces, however, rejects the Levity Standard altogether. And this chaps their ass like you wouldn’t believe. Now their only defense is to overly promote Sonic Mania as superior by default, while taking w/e measures they can to convince Sega to forgo this route entirely, and that is to criticize everything. From the boost mechanic that no one ever opposed to the mere inclusion of a CaC feature. Afterall, the content has balls, whereas theirs have yet to drop. It’s like some painfull reminder to them that Sonic was for the cool kids, and they’re not invited.

As soon as a demo drops, the game is automatic SHIT! How amazing is that? That they can now judge an unfinished product for being “too fast“. This is them throwing a tantrum that Sega is no longer trying to appease them, and is trying to reach out to the real Sonic fans.

Silly, mal-adjusted fools.

Heru Sankofa, Conflicting Views 21 Comments [7/29/2017 12:05:53 PM]
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Submitted By: Salami

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Vatican Openly Declares Lucifer As God At Catholic Mass

Unknown to most of the Roman Catholic Church members the Vatican venerate Lucifer and they do it hidden in plain sight.

The Easter Mass was broadcast over Vatican television. The Vatican commentator, summarised the meaning of the chant in English as follows:

The deacon is chanting "Oh truly blessed night worthy alone to know the time and hour when Christ rose from the underworld with this holy building shaped with joy", he chanted "in the awesome glory of this holy night."

The first problem with the commentator is that the Vatican provided an interpreter for the television audience, but there was no interpreter for the church audience. The second problem with the interpretation is that the Vatican interpreter gave an abbreviated summary of the chant which was incomplete. His resulting interpretation of what the deacon chanted was therefore misleading. The interpreter glossed over and concealed the true meaning of the deacon's chant. The actual English translation of the pertinent section of the deacon's chant is as follows:

Flaming Lucifer finds mankind, I say: Oh Lucifer who will never be defeated, Christ is your son who came back from hell, shed his peaceful light and is alive and reigns in the world without end. (emphasis added)

This same Exsultet chant was repeated in an Easter mass in 2013, where the celebrant was the newly installed Pope Francis I.

Quoted from: Edward Hendrie "AntiChrist- The Beast Revealed (pg 167)

kytecutter, Youtube 9 Comments [7/29/2017 8:01:58 AM]
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Quote# 129901

What is wrong with guilt and shame? Your child should know that masturbation shameful because it is. How else are they going to learn this if you don't explicitly tell them? Why should alienating the child be avoided more so than stopping the act of masturbation?

Are you afraid the child will rebel once he turns 18 and turn into a promiscuous heathen when he meets the "real world"? This is possible, but he certainly would be worse off hitting the "real world" with mortal sin having stained his soul.

However, if you are vigilant and strictly correct him before he becomes addicted to it, he will greatly respect you when he grows older and continues to discover the beauty of chastity and purity. He will think, "Wow, although I didn't realize it at the time, my parents really cared for me!"

Geremia, Catholic Answers Forum 16 Comments [7/29/2017 8:01:51 AM]
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