Quote# 129501

A Domestic Discipline (DD) marriage is one in which one partner is given authority over the other, and has the means to back up that authority, usually by spanking. The application and practise of DD in each marriage is as unique as the individuals who make up that marriage. There is no "One Ring of Power" in the Domestic Discipline world, to which all DD couples must bow; no singular path to "true DD enlightenment". What works well for one DD couple may not be a good fit for another marriage. Therefore, you may see many different suggestions espoused on this site and elsewhere.

A Christian Domestic Discipline (CDD) marriage is simply a traditional, male-led, Christian marriage which utilises aspects of Domestic Discipline. It is set up according to Biblical standards.

Therefore, in a CDD marriage:

The husband is the head of the household, whilst the wife is submissive to her husband as if the Lord Himself was her husband. See Eph. 5:22-24.
The husband is to love his wife as himself, and as Christ loved the church. He is to be a servant, and leads by example. He is to lay down his life for her. See Eph. 5:25-29.
The wife is to reverence her husband. She is to obey him, so long as his instructions are not in opposition to God's commands. See Titus 2:5, Acts 5:29.
He has the ultimate authority in his household, but this authority is tempered with the knowledge that he will answer to God for his actions and decisions. The final decision rests with him, and therefore, the final responsibility, whatever the outcome, is his to bear. A wise husband will not make a major decision without prayerfully asking God for wisdom, and without seeking his wife's counsel. Prov. 20:5

He is to be the head of the home. She is to be the heart of the home.

He is not a dictator. She is not a doormat.

He is not a overbearing Lord of the Estate, seeking to trample over his family. She is not some weak-minded lass, needing to be molly-coddled, or seeking to get straightened around.

He has the responsibility for leading his family and is accountable before God for their well-being and development. He has the authority to spank his wife for disciplinary reasons, but in real CDD marriages, this authority is taken quite seriously and usually happens rarely. Most CDD marriages do use spanking, generally for serious offences, such as the "Four D's" (Disobedience, Disrespect, Dishonesty, or Dangerous [as in dangerous choices... reckless driving, disobeying doctor's orders, etc]). Some CDD marriages also use non-corporal disciplines, such as writing lines, or the temporary forfeiture of a favourite privilege. Again, every marriage is unique, and CDD is much more than just corporal punishment or spanking.

CDD is not a "magic pill", and this website does not claim CDD will prevent all marital rows. It is simply a tool, one method which many couples round the world feel is quite effective in strengthening their marriages, and improving the quality of their relationship.

CDD is the husband loving his wife enough to patiently guide and unselfishly cherish her.
CDD is the wife loving her husband enough to follow his leadership and trust his direction.
A Christian marriage should embody selfless love and true romance.
A Christian couple is to be a reflection of Jesus and His Bride.

How clear is your reflection?

This style of traditional male-led Christian marriage may seem unusual in today's "modern", liberal, politically correct, anti-God culture. This unholy culture, with its radically selfish feminism, and wholesale bias against true manhood, launches relentless attacks against traditional Christian family values. (Keep in mind, this is also the culture with well over 50% divorce rates, both in the church and in the secular world. Most rational people would agree the "modern" way doesn't work so well!)

Romans 12:2 says, And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect will of God. Here, Paul warns us not to live like the world, not to be fashioned like them, or molded to the same pattern as they are, but to be changed. Strong's Concordance says, "literally or figuratively "metamorphose".

The traditional male-led Christian marriage has been practised throughout history and is still practised in many parts of the world today. Our American friends, for example, need only look back to the era just prior to the 1960's. Domestic Discipline was a widely accepted premise, oft seen in films at the cinema and programmes on the telly. Many companies showed it in advertisments. If you prefer not to utilise "modern, popular culture" as a guide, consider that DD also has quite a long history as a common literary theme, dating back hundreds of years, from several cultures worldwide.

Unknown author, Christian Domestic Discipline 19 Comments [7/19/2017 11:34:59 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 129492

Well, the woman was stretched out on a cot on a sheet that she had brought. The spirit took the pair of scissors, raised them in a salute to whatever force he was raising it, plunged them into the woman’s body, cut deeply into the flesh, had me part the cavity to one side. And I could feel the blood pulsing over my hands. Then, Pachita/Hermanito—so you don’t get confused, the spirit—brought out a dirty red handkerchief with a piece of lung. Sometimes we got the parts from cadavers. She had friends in the morgue in town. Sometimes it was animal parts. Frankly, psychic surgeons will tell you, “It doesn’t matter what piece you’re using. It really doesn’t.” But doctors have taken blood samples and verified them to be that of the patients. Something was taking place there. She took this lung, dirty red rag and all, John, and slipped it into the woman’s chest cavity, then passed the hand, his hand, over the woman’s chest and it closed instantly. Not many people knew that that’s what happened. We bound the woman up in a bandage that she had brought, with cotton underneath, gave her instructions for three days, and the woman was healed. Now, I have documented many operations….

Johanna Michaelsen, John Ankerberg show 10 Comments [7/19/2017 9:35:14 AM]
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Quote# 129486

But at least you admit there's no such thing as "separation of church and state" in the Constitution. I'll save you claiming that and remind you when you bring it up again in the future.

But there is. The Establishment Clause puts it there. Don't believe me?

"I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free
exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between Church
& State." - Thomas Jefferson

"Strongly guarded as is the separation between Religion & Govt in the Constitution of the United States the danger of encroachment by Ecclesiastical Bodies, may be illustrated by precedents already furnished in their short history." - James Madison

You're citing a president, not the Constitution, which shows you're just being dishonest.

Meanwhile, what you point out is a Pastor wrote a letter to Jefferson expressing his fears that Jefferson would in some way restrict religious freedoms. In response to these fears, Thomas Jefferson wrote a letter back to indicate that he would in no way restrict the freedom of religious expression because he saw a wall of separation between church and state. It means the opposite of what the left tries to twist it into: that He would in no way restrict religion, not that it would instead be censored except where atheists give their permission.

If you have a "wall of separation", both sides are separated from the other. So, it works BOTH ways.

[No response.]

Reason2012, Christian News Network 12 Comments [7/19/2017 7:08:16 AM]
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Quote# 129485

So notice now the ACLU is unwittingly admitting it's legal for the meetings to start with a prayer, after how many years of lying about it being a violation of the "separation / establishment" clause ("separation of church and state! It's a violation of the establishment clause in the Constitution!" they screamed time and again). Now that this lie didn't work, now they try another lie.

Ambulance Chaser:
1. Nobody ever cited a "separation" clause because none exists. Who are you quoting?

2. Legal arguments that you disagree with or don't like are not "lies."

Thank you for admitting the separation of church and state clause does not exist in the Constitution.

Trying to make a lie your "legal argument" is still a lie.

Ambulance Chaser:
"Thank you for admitting the separation of church and state clause does not exist in the Constitution."

I never said it did. We do, however, have an Establishment Clause, which is applicable here.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

Please cite the law that was passed forcing them to open with a prayer.

There isn't one, so it wasn't violated by holding prayer.

Meanwhile please cite the law that says they do not have the freedom of religion to open with prayer.

There can't be one as that would be a violation of the Constitution.

But at least you admit there's no such thing as "separation of church and state" in the Constitution. I'll save you claiming that and remind you when you bring it up again in the future.

Ambulance Chaser:
Are you unaware of case law or just unwilling to acknowledge it?

Are you unaware of the Constitution or just unwilling to acknowledge it?

Ambulance Chaser:
I'm aware of the Constitution and aware that the cases that interpret it hold that any state action that takes even a single step toward establishing a religion is unconstitutional.

I'm aware that there are activists judges that violate the Constitution and pretend laws can be passed prohibiting the free exercise of religion. Just like the SC judge who lied with Obamacare when democrats sold it as a fine and not a tax, and the SC judge lied and called it a tax so he could "pass" it as Constitutional. You of course will have to deflect to ignore the fact the SC judge lied in order to dishonestly claim it was constitutional when it was not, proving that activists judges will lie and deceive to violate the Constitution, even SC judges.

Ambulance Chaser:
They "violate the Constitution?" Who says? You?

[No response.]

Reason2012, Christian News Network 10 Comments [7/19/2017 7:08:10 AM]
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Quote# 129483

[Comment under "Jews Cry After Discovering that Trump’s #FraudNewsCNN Tweet Came from Nazi HanAssholeSolo"]

[Picture of the mob lynching of Thomas Shipp and Abram Smith whose heads were replaced by the logos of CNN and MSNBC; similarly, members of the public had their heads replaced by Trump's and Pepe's]

Dr_James_Crow, Daily Stormer 20 Comments [7/19/2017 7:00:29 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 129481

Much like mass and energy are interchangeable because one can be transformed into the other, so are labor and money for the same reason. Forcing someone to give up their money to pay for services they’re not receiving is no more moral than forcing them into servitude for the same purpose.

As much as it may seem heartless not to do it, you cannot divorce that fact from the equation.

This brings me to the “are you just going to let them die” argument, that is often bandied about as justification for forced medical care.

The number of visits to a doctor that are life threatening vs just quality of life issues are very small. Even Emergency Room visits, according to one government study puts the number of visits that could have been treated by a normal doctor or Urgent Care facility vs the emergency room at somewhere between 13.7 and 27.1%. That doesn’t include all the times people just went to their doctor, or an Urgent Care facility. So it is more than fair to assume that less that 10%, maybe even less than 1% of all medical care required is non-life-threatening.

If that’s true, then most of the time care may be refused, it is not about letting someone die at all.

But also, if we go back to labor and money are interchangeable, arguing that myself or anyone else is “just letting someone die” assumes that we owe them their life. Which again means that the government would get to decide when a doctor may retire or otherwise not work.
Waiting in Emergency department

While it’s easy for those of us who aren’t medical doctors to sit at home, and say “someone should help those people” (referring to those who can’t afford to pay for health care), the fact is that any government requirement for them to be helped requires violating the actual enumerated constitutional rights and largely accepted human rights of a number of people, in order to preserve a non-enumerated right of one person.

If you want to help people, you should volunteer to help. Go to school to learn medicine, and do the good deeds you want done. But the moment it becomes compulsory for you or anyone else, it is no longer moral.

With the number of charities that were doing great work to help the less fortunate before laws like this were passed, the idea that such people didn’t get help, is misguided. While there were some people who did not receive care, there were a good number who did. But more importantly to libertarians like me, liberty remained in tact, and not one right was violated.

Gary Nolan, the Logical Libertarian 19 Comments [7/19/2017 6:58:29 AM]
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Quote# 129478

Jesus Touched the Children

“Then they brought little children to Him, that He might touch them….And He took them up in His arms, laid His hands on them, and blessed them.” Mark 10: 13-16

Claire was 8 years old. She had two problems that troubled her—an embarrassing problem of bed-wetting and a wart that had been on the bottom of her foot for over a year. She had heard her brother Reuben’s story about the doctor cutting a wart from his foot and she did not want that. She determined in her heart that she would wait for Mahesh Chavda to visit to our church and let him pray for her.
Claire, along with our other children, had come to love and respect Mahesh. They had heard him tell stories of the many healings that had taken place in his ministry around the world. And we had friends who had experienced healings in his meetings. Therefore, little 8-year old Claire decided that Jesus would heal her when Mahesh came to minister.
She entered the meeting with a child’s faith. She went up for prayer and the Lord touched her. She was filled with the Holy Spirit, the wart disappeared overnight and was completely gone the next morning, and she never wet the bed again.

Leah was 7 years old. She was trying to go to sleep but began to cry, saying, “Daddy and Mommy, my tummy hurts!” Laurel and I prayed for her but the pain intensified and she cried even harder. Finally I turned to Laurel and said, “We need to take her to the emergency room.” Still in tears, Leah yelled out, “No! I don’t want to go to the hospital. Pray for me. Jesus will heal me.”
So Laurel and I laid hands on her stomach, and prayed in Jesus’ name. The pain instantly and completely left. Leah suddenly became very calm and relaxed.
I leaned over and kissed her and said, “Leah, wasn’t that nice of Jesus to touch you and take the pain away?”
She, with eyes half closed and ready now for sleep, peacefully and quietly said, “Yeah. ‘Cause if He didn’t, He would be in trouble.” I laughed under my breath and marvelled at the simple faith of a child.

Parents know how frightening it can be when their infant children get the croup. The croup is marked by episodes of harsh, hoarse, and dry coughing accompanied by difficult breathing. Our son Matthew was less than 2 years old and had developed a bad case of it. We were at a Bible Study-prayer meeting at my parents’ home. Matthew began to cough. His face turned red, and his breathing was difficult. My cousin Bootsie said, “You need to take him to the emergency room.” We considered this, but on the way home, faith rose in our hearts. I turned to Laurel and said, “We are going to lay him in his crib and pray over him until he is healed.” Upon entering the house, we laid him in the crib and prayed over him in Jesus’ name. The Lord touched him and he was healed the minute we began to pray. The cough was instantly and completely gone. He lay there quietly consuming his bedtime formula, and fell into a restful sleep for the entire night. When he awoke the next morning he had no symptoms at all. He was healed.

A Neighbor’s Child
As I was leaving a friend’s house one day, He and I passed his five-year old son playing with some toys on the ground. As we discussed other things, the father showed me some sort of bone growth that was on the back of the child’s head. It was just a little smaller than half a ping-pong ball and had been there for years. The doctors had told him it was nothing to worry about. It would not harm the boy, but was simply unattractive and inconvenient. My friend and I did not focus on the child but continued our conversation.

However, as I talked with my friend, I very casually laid my hand on the back of the child’s head a couple times saying, “Lord, bless him.” Again I said, “I know it’s nothing to worry about, but Lord bless him anyway,” as my friend and I went on with the conversation about other things. Then I drove away feeling guilty that I had not taken time to pray an official and “real” prayer over that child. Instead I had only said “Lord, bless him” in passing as I talked about other things.

I was surprised a couple days later when my friend called to tell me that the child’s growth had completely disappeared. The Lord had healed it in response to a simple “Bless him” prayer.

“Let the little children come to me, and do not forbid them; for of such is the kingdom of God.” Mark 10: 24

Laurel and Billy Long, OUT OF THE BOX  16 Comments [7/18/2017 10:55:26 PM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 129473

My empathy is [only for] people who are consistent with my principles.

NAPnationalist, Deviantart forums 11 Comments [7/18/2017 10:53:31 PM]
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Quote# 129471

[OP of "Why concentration camps work"]

A concentration camp is much like a prison. You take the people that you don't want muckin things up in your society and you put them in this camp surrounded by guards and barbed wire. This is much easier than shooting them outright because you remove them from the eye of the public. The last thing the public knew was that these people were perfectly alive and well and that they can be back at anytime. In practice, however, these camps are like black holes from which people are never seen again.

Inside the camp, you can do pretty much anything you want with your new prisoners. Make them work, experiment on them, have fun with them, or just exterminate them. Having them work can be difficult, but is obviously the most immediately beneficial.

Concentration camps have been used successfully by a multitude of countries such as Russia, Germany, and USA. They were extremely effective in pursuing the end goals of those countries. So effective that moral outrage is the only thing holding back the incentives of their establishment.

CapitalJusticeWarior, Reddit - r/Physical_Removal 20 Comments [7/18/2017 10:51:14 PM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 129470

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Atheism: The fool has said in his heart there is no God"

Why do atheists ONLY have a problem with Christianity?

They hate truth, but accept lies.
There is power in the name of Jesus Christ and that is why they (under the influence of the enemy - who is using and manipulating them) have set themselves in opposition to Christ, because the name of Jesus changes lives and the anointing destroys yokes. The enemy doesn't want the lost to be found and set free from sin and death.

They also hate Christians because we share the gospel of Jesus Christ (as the Holy Bible instructs us to) with boldness and confidence. They do all they can to discredit men and women of God, but God's word stands true FOREVER. Let God be magnified and glorified in ALL that we do. Amen.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - Faith & Religion 24 Comments [7/18/2017 10:50:50 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 129462

Not only the homosexuals will be annihilated [by God], but this utter destruction includes everyone who is a homosexual sympathizer or is indifferent to the sins of our times.

Walid Shoebat, Shoebat.com: Awareness and Action 20 Comments [7/18/2017 10:40:53 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 129461

Right-wing pastor and former GOP political candidate E.W. Jackson dedicated his radio program yesterday to complaining about how much “influence the transgender community has in the media” today. During the broadcast, Jackson said that if he saw a LGBTQ activist handing his child pro-gay literature, he “would really need the grace of God not to jump on that person and try to beat them into the ground.”

Jackson recounted an episode several years ago in which he and fellow anti-LGBTQ activists confronted members of GLAAD who were distributing “pro-homosexual pamphlets” to students outside of a middle school. Jackson said that when his group told the GLAAD activists that they had no right to distribute these pamphlets to children, the situation got rather tense as the GLAAD activists insisted that they were going to continue handing out the information because “parents are not going to tell their children the truth about their sexuality.”

Jackson said that he recalled thinking that “what they are doing is really dangerous because if I, as a parent, went to pick up my child and some gay person were bent over talking to my child, handing my child a piece of literature encouraging my child to be gay and to engage in sexual activity period, regardless; man, I would really need the grace of God not to attack that person.”

“I’m serious,” he continued. “I’m just being truthful. I would really need the grace of God not to jump on that person and try to beat them into the ground. I mean, that’s my baby, that’s my child and you’re going to step between me and my child and tell my child something that I object to and act like you have a right to do it? We would have a problem, a very serious problem.”

“If they continue this,” Jackson warned, “at some point, some parent whose child they are approaching is going to walk up and it’s going to get violent.”

E.W. Jackson, Right Wing Watch 18 Comments [7/18/2017 10:30:34 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 129460

(Commenting on story "Bench that Features God Quote from Pennsylvania's Founder Relocated Following Atheist Complaint"):

There goes those people who claim to simply "not believe" going nuts over it like some kind of religious zealots.

You can't put items that promote religion in public areas. It's just that simple, why can't you understand that? This is going to crop up again and again and again, and you're going to lose every single time.

Says who? And what about "cavemen" in public museums? Lose? When did that happen?

Sorry you are so troubled by facts, but that is what you are up against here. Cavemen belong in museums. And you guys keep losing these battles over and over.

Sorry you are trouble with a total lack of facts.

I'm not. Cavemen are in museums, people trying to plant religious figures on public property keep getting shut down. You guys are moths flying into flame over and over. What lack of facts is plaguing me?

Cavemen ARE mythological religious figures on public property. Are you trying to say your religion is ok to shove on the public?
Lack of ANY proof whatsoever for your religious beliefs, try those facts.

Wow, just wow.
A visit to a museum would be an eye-opener for you. You could also see the mythical dinosaur skeletons while you are there, and then you could go to the concession for a nice soda.

Did I say the dinosaur skeletons are mythological or are you throwing out the desperation strawman? Cavemen ARE mythological religious figures on public property.

Prehistoric men have skeletons too.

Correction, mythological skeletons. Interesting how we have so many full skeletons of dinosaurs, yet nothing but hoaxes and empty claims of "cavemen" bones.

What is a "mythological skeleton"?

mythological: adjective; myth·o·log·i·cal\?mi-th?-'lä-ji-k?l\ - lacking factual basis or historical validity.
skeleton: noun; skel·e·ton /'ske-l?-t?n\ - a usually rigid supportive or protective structure or framework of an organism.

So what, they BUILT fake skeletons of prehistoric men for the world's museums?


Oboehner, Christian News Network 20 Comments [7/18/2017 10:29:22 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 129457

Wouldn’t the destruction of the American government, wouldn’t that be a wonderful thing to see?

Dave Daubenmire, YouTube 19 Comments [7/18/2017 10:25:59 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 129456

Trump has saved entire world from devastations of globalist Paris Climate Agreement.

Steve Jalsevac, Life Site News 22 Comments [7/18/2017 10:18:46 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 129455

[On fighting gay marriage]

I suppose someone will say, ‘You are on the wrong side of history.’ Maybe. Maybe not. But I am on the right side of eternity.

Jim Garlow, Facebook 17 Comments [7/18/2017 10:18:38 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 129454

… those who come against Christianity want to destroy Christianity.

Our Founding Fathers created a Christian nation. We definitely have a Christian background. The Declaration of Independence. We celebrated it just July 4, and two days later, this city council is having an atheist come speak?! Can you imagine the men that sacrificed their families and their fortunes, and they mentioned not just several gods in the Declaration of Independence, but the one true God — four different times.

There’s no mistaking that America was founded on Judeo-Christian principles. And they did it because they knew what made better Christians made better citizens.

Because law only punishes crime but Christianity changes the heart and prevents it. And once you take those principles out, that’s when you start seeing what we’re seeing today, Jeff.

You see the Ferguson. You see the riots. You see the Antifa. You see the Resistance. And when you take away that heart of prevention, then government has to become more authoritarian and coercion…

Tamara Scott, Patheos 18 Comments [7/18/2017 10:18:28 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 129453

When Someone Says This: The Bible advocates slavery, polygamy and genocide!

What They Mean Is; It would take ten minutes of my life to search online and learn from people who actually study the Bible how false this statment is and therefore how intellectually dishonest for me to claim it is true, but so much easier for me to qoute some verses out of the Bible with zero context and then regurgitate from some militant Anti-Christian!...And the Bible commands Christians to kill gay pepole too BTW!

Adam Ford, Adam4rd 18 Comments [7/18/2017 10:18:20 PM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 129449

(Note: Those guys just have no fucking sympathy)

UK: Inquest held for beautiful Polish teen found hanged in school toilets after bullying

Teenager, 16, was found hanged in school toilets after being bullied and called 'stupid Pole' by other pupils but her body wasn’t discovered for over 90 minutes after teacher didn’t spot anything wrong

(concerned englishman)
Dagmara's uncle Tomasz Dobek took her to hospital after she had hurt her hand in the PE lesson the day before she died.

He added: 'We saw two girls on the pavement and Dagmara said 'uncle, can you run them over'.

Sounds like she was a lovely girl with a typically grateful immigrant attitude.

Yeah and those two girls are most likely the ones who bullied her.

Many Polish people wouldn't expect any English to feel bad for what happened to this young lady.

(concerned englishman)
Wouldn't she have been better off at home instead of wanting to run our people over?

(English nobody)
She is blaming English folk for this immigrants death.

Anti-racism story. It's not nice but bullying happens to many kids at some point. No need to top yourself. Unless there were non-Whites involved it will be another ooooh, poor Poles in the UK thread. If she had been bullied for being fat nobody would care. There will be girls in Poland who kill themselves as well, it happens, unless we assume that Poland is so perfect and millions of Poles only leave as they feel wanderlust.

And supermodel, perfect 10, etc? Jeez, get a grip, it's a normal looking 16 y.o.

(This England)
This girl certainly seems to have had a rather fragile personality, one can only wonder what damage was done when her family of European Union economic mercenaries uprooted her from her native Poland at such a young age.

That's right. Easier for them to blame the English yet again though, rather than take any responsibility.

Another tragic case, sadly people from EE, driven to these islands by economics whilst seeking to retain their ethnic and cultural identity, simply do not fit in. We have polish neighbours, a young couple who keep their property well, aren't alcoholics, social scroungers, etc., they have never made any attempt to engage ourselves or any other neighbours in any way, very stand-offish, very arrogant and with an air of superiority ill fitting to a formally homogenous and close community. When children come along they will undoubtably have the same attitude as their parents, school and interaction with children here will be a difficult proposition.

This girl's death another stark reminder that multicultural societies simply do not work, a tragedy, like so many more, wholly avoidable had economically driven parents simply decided to remain in their homeland and raise children in an environment natural to themselves and their offspring.

Life is hard enough, no winners and another innocent and undeserving victim sacrificed on the alter of cosmopolitanism.


(English nobody)
So calling a Polish person a Pole and telling them to move back to Poland is racist and anti-White?.

(Britannic Nationalist)
Non-whites call Europe and the USA oppressive, bigoted and racist etc, yet millions of them want to live here.

Eastern Europeans, particularly Polish, call Britain and Western Europe bigoted, xenophobic and hateful and yet millions of them want to live here.

I'm noticing a pattern.

(concerned englishman)

She would have been better off at home.Then she would still be living.

various british stormfronters, Stormfront.org 6 Comments [7/18/2017 10:14:23 PM]
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Quote# 129448

Saudi Arabia investigates video of woman in miniskirt

17 July 2017

The authorities in Saudi Arabia are investigating a young woman who posted a video of herself wearing a miniskirt and crop-top in public.

The woman, a model called "Khulood", shared the clip of her walking around a historic fort in Ushayqir.

The footage sparked a heated debate on social media, with some calling for her arrest for breaking the conservative Muslim country's strict dress code.

Other Saudis came to the woman's defence, praising her "bravery".

Women in Saudi Arabia must wear loose-fitting, full-length robes known as "abayas" in public, as well as a headscarf if they are Muslim. They are also banned from driving and are separated from unrelated men.

In the video initially shared on Snapchat over the weekend, Khulood is seen walking along an empty street in a fort at Ushayqir Heritage Village, about 155km (96 miles) north of the capital Riyadh, in Najd province.

Najd is one of the most conservative regions in Saudi Arabia. It was where the founder of Wahhabism - the austere form of Sunni Islam that is practised by the Saudi royal family and religious establishment - was born in the late 18th Century.

The video was quickly picked up by Saudis on Twitter, where opinion was divided between those who believe Khulood should be punished and others who insisted she should be allowed to wear what she wanted.

Journalist Khaled Zidan wrote: "The return of the Haia [religious police] here is a must."

Another user argued: "We should respect the laws of the country. In France, the niqab [face-covering veil] is banned and women are fined if they wear it. In Saudi Arabia, wearing abayas and modest clothing is part of the kingdom's laws."

The writer and philosopher, Wael al-Gassim, said he was "shocked to see those angry, scary tweets".

"I thought she had bombed or killed somebody. The story turned out to be about her skirt, which they did not like. I am wondering how Vision 2030 can succeed if she is arrested," he added, referring to the reform programme unveiled last year by Saudi Arabia's newly-appointed 31-year-old Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.

Media captionIn April, Saudi women's rights campaigners filmed themselves walking silently in protest against driving restrictions

Some defended Khulood by noting that US President Donald Trump's wife, Melania, and daughter, Ivanka, had chosen not to wear abayas or headscarves during a visit to Saudi Arabia in May.

Fatima al-Issa wrote: "If she was a foreigner, they would sing about the beauty of her waist and the enchantment of her eyes... But because she is Saudi they are calling for her arrest."

On Monday, the Okaz newspaper reported that officials in Ushayqir had called on the provincial governor and police to take action against the woman.

The religious police, the Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice, meanwhile wrote on Twitter that it had been made aware of the video and was in contact with the relevant authorities.

various saudis, BBC 34 Comments [7/18/2017 9:44:34 AM]
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Submitted By: Mister Spak

Quote# 129447

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Marvel not that the world (still) lies about Jesus Christ and the saints..."

I've been noticing outright lies about Jesus Christ and Christians being spoken proudly by unbelievers. They lie and state that He support sin and abominations. That is NOT true. And when corrected with gospel truth, many double down and restate their lies, often times louder as if repeating the same lie in some way makes that lie true. It doesn't. A lie is a lie no matter how often one repeats the lie. Jesus Christ IS the way, the truth and the life. All power is given to Him in heaven and in earth. Amen.
There is nothing new under the sun. Even when Jesus Christ walked the earth, the hypocrites and evil men lied on Him (and His followers) and paid others to lie about what happened with Him and the saints that followed Him. Note:

Matthew 28 (KJV)
11 Now when they were going, behold, some of the watch came into the city, and shewed unto the chief priests all the things that were done.
12 And when they were assembled with the elders, and had taken counsel, they gave large money unto the soldiers,
13 Saying, Say ye, His disciples came by night, and stole him away while we slept.
14 And if this come to the governor's ears, we will persuade him, and secure you.
15 So they took the money, and did as they were taught: and this saying is commonly reported among the Jews until this day.

Don't forget to RECOMMEND. Lets get the Truth out so that Light may shine bright in this dark place and Jesus Christ may be glorified.Even if the discussion is closed, please still RECOMMEND.
Seek Jesus Christ and find Truth.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - Faith & Religion 13 Comments [7/18/2017 9:44:27 AM]
Fundie Index: 2
Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 129435

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The Majors, Eden Decoded 16 Comments [7/18/2017 9:42:20 AM]
Fundie Index: 5
Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 129433

Those who wait until tomorrow to catch the sale for today typically end up missing out completely! Catch the sale on Jesus Christ today, while He's still available. Tomorrow might be too late!

("Saints don't believe we're better than sinners. We're just smart enough to recognize a good deal on salvation when we see it. ;-)")

Mack Major, Facebook 11 Comments [7/18/2017 9:41:27 AM]
Fundie Index: 6
Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 129415

I was distraught and unable to sleep one night. My husband and son were sleeping soundly. When they did not respond after I called out to them, I poured cold water all over them.

This happened, however, before I learned Falun Gong. I had strong attachments to fame, fortune, and jealousy back then. I had swollen legs and severe back pain and was only able to sleep for about an hour at a time in bed. Then I had to sleep sitting up the rest of the night. Due to insufficient sleep, I was very short tempered, which got worse over time.

At the end of 1996, I “happened” to meet a Falun Gong practitioner who told me about the practice. I went to the practice site the very next day. As I did the exercises, there was a warm feeling on my back, which felt very comfortable. My heart was filled with happiness. When I slightly open my eyes, the sky was almost orange. After we'd finished, my body became relaxed and all my symptoms had been alleviated. It was something I had never experienced before. I immediately bought all the Falun Gong books I could.

Later, my home became a group study site. I studied the Fa teachings and did the exercises every day. I looked to the teachings to guide my life and to become a good person. Instead of being cold and introverted, I became cheerful and outgoing. Moreover, all my illnesses were gone. My family also benefited tremendously from my practice of Falun Gong.

One morning when I woke up in 1998, my left eye itched severely. It was swollen to the size of an egg. My husband persuaded me to go to the hospital. Several experts said that my eye was rotting. They said that I’d come to the hospital too late and that immediate surgery was now required to remove my left eye. The doctor said that, if the surgery was successful, I would only see some light with my right eye, and, if the surgery failed, I would be completely blind.

While my husband was completing the admission procedures, I was overwhelmed with the thought of losing my eyes. But then I realized that I was a Falun Gong practitioner and should remain calm. Suddenly, I felt compelled to leave the hospital right away. I stood up and managed to push through the crowd. I trotted out of the hospital, found a taxi, and left for home.

I was not home for long when my husband returned. He tried to drag me back to the hospital. I desperately clung to the door and told him that I would rather die than return to the hospital. He called our relatives. Over 20 of them came to our home. They were shocked when they saw my eyes and found out about the diagnosis. They cried and encouraged me to go to the hospital for surgery.

I knew well in my heart that the hospital could not cure my eyes—only Falun Gong would be able to help. I had no other options. However, my husband still insisted that I go to the hospital for surgery.

“Falun Gong is purifying my body as I eliminate karma,” I said. “Please give me two days. I will study the Fa and do the exercises at home for two days. Then, if my eyes improve, we will not go to the hospital. If it does not change, I will go to the hospital.”

He agreed, saying, “And if your eyes can be cured by doing the exercises, I will practice Falun Gong, too.”

So I calmed down and read Zhuan Falun in tranquility. I could not open my left eye and could not see well with my right eye. I was in tears. Then I asked my niece to read to me. My niece read in tears. She read and cried, read and cried. I said, “You should not treat me this way, you should have faith that my eyes will recover; if you believe, then miracles will happen. You must support me and believe that this is the real truth of the universe.”

Then we both calmed down. I listened attentively, and suddenly I felt my eyeballs moving. I no longer felt sick. After everything quieted down during the evening, I felt like I had a lot to say to Master Li Hongzhi (the founder of Falun Gong). I put Zhuan Falun on the table and knelt down. “Master, please save me!” I said. “Please give me two eyes. I am only 43 years old. I still have a long way to go.” Then I started to meditate in the full lotus position. When I hurt, I recited to myself, “When it’s difficult to endure, you can endure it. When it’s impossible to do, you can do it.” (Zhuan Falun)

When I woke up the next morning, my mind was crystal clear. I could open my left eye slightly without tearing. I then went to the practice site to do the exercises. I felt as if I levitated up high when I was doing the first exercise. When I opened my eyes, I saw practitioners in neat rows. While I was holding the wheel on both sides of the second exercise, I felt someone holding my arms and correcting me. I thought it must be Master encouraging me.

Two weeks later, my eyes were completely recovered. My family and relatives all witnessed the miracle of Falun Gong. Many of them got Falun Gong books and started to practice.

But three weeks later, my left eye was red and swollen for over a week. It happened several times. My husband still wanted me to go to the hospital. I kept looking inward and found out that I was not considerate of my husband: I was stubborn and attached to myself, often insisting on my own way. Even if I was wrong, I would ask him to be the one to apologize. No loss, no gain! Once I came to understand this principle of the teachings, my husband no longer mentioned going to the hospital, and my eyes did not trouble me again.

On July 20, 1999, the CCP started the brutal persecution of Falun Gong. My husband gave fellow practitioners 20,000 yuan and supported our efforts to go to petition in Beijing. A group Fa-study was held in our house and there were many experience-sharing conferences in our house as well.

My husband stood guard outside whenever there was a conference. When the practitioners who were forced to flee their homes stayed in our house, my husband often treated them warmly without thinking of personal gain and loss.

My husband suffered from lower back pain. When it became severe, he could only stand for a few minutes. In 2010, the doctor recommended he have spinal surgery. Our son sought the experts from Beijing to treat him. My husband asked me to pack up his stuff to prepare for the surgery. I said, “I do not agree with the surgery. Can they guarantee success?”

My husband said nobody could guarantee it. I replied, “Falun Gong can guarantee that. You have witnessed the miracle that happened to me.”

Thinking that I meant that I did not want to take care of him, he rushed out in anger. I immediately sent righteous thoughts asking Master to help my husband. I knew he should not have the operation.

About two hours later, my husband came back with his bag. He said, “Did you send righteous thoughts for me?” He said the doctors had recommended a conservative treatment, which required high technology. If the surgery was unsuccessful, he would be paralyzed for life.

Then my husband started reading Zhuan Falun, one chapter a day. He also watched the Shen Yun Performing Arts DVDs and read other truth clarification materials. Sometimes, he did the exercises. Two weeks later, his lower back pain was cured without any medical treatment. Moreover, all his other illnesses were gone. He is now in perfect health. However, he has not started to seriously practice due to fear of the CCP’s brutal persecution.

Unknown author, Minghui 4 Comments [7/18/2017 9:40:21 AM]
Fundie Index: 7
Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 129400

Fox News's Headline: "Faith or fellatio? British religious school forced to submit to secular indoctrination"

Fox News article by Herb London:

Lady Checkmate:
The sexualization of children and promotion of immorality and perversion is an abomination.

Don't forget to RECOMMEND. Lets get the Truth out so that Light may shine bright in this dark place and Jesus Christ may be glorified.Even if the discussion is closed, please still RECOMMEND.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - Faith & Religion 11 Comments [7/18/2017 9:38:49 AM]
Fundie Index: 5
Submitted By: Jocasta