Quote# 125412

An estimated 95 percent of Faith Driven Consumers will not buy tickets for Disney's "Beauty and the Beast" this weekend because of the "exclusive gay moment" in the film.

That figure is the result of a survey of 6,700 people, completed by the Faith Driven Consumer organization. And many of those surveyed are also less likely to spend money with Disney as a whole.

The FDC's numbers suggest personal faith matters to 41 million Americans who spend $2 trillion annually.

Chris Stone is founder of Faith Driven Consumer.

In his release of the group's findings, Stone said, "Disney's decision to celebrate LGBT individuals with an 'exclusively gay moment' in Beauty and the Beast is a testament to the LGBT community's success in advocating for and achieving high-profile recognition of their worldview."

"Faith Driven Consumers understand the LGBT community's goal for inclusion by Hollywood and Corporate America," Stone continued. "For FDCs this is not homophobia or bigotry. There are many complex realities in the world that Faith Driven Consumers simply do not wish to have addressed with their children via entertainment, especially in a family movie."

"Entertainment broadly has become highly politicized and sexualized, meant to inculturate audiences," he said. "This excludes Faith Driven Consumers who are left with an increasingly limited number of acceptable entertainment options for their families. They want entertainment to remain just that—entertainment."

That same survey revealed 58 percent of Faith Driven Consumers think the motivation behind Disney's decision to include an "exclusively gay moment" in "Beauty and the Beast" was "to normalize homosexuality."

A little more than 50 percent of Faith Driven Consumers say Disney does not meet their entertainment needs well.

Faith Driven Consumers, CBN News 14 Comments [3/15/2017 7:29:02 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 125408

I know I'm seriously getting sick of [Trump] and Sessions letting these traitors and criminals [David Cay Johnston and Rachel Maddow] run amok. It's time to lay down the hammer and return some law and order to the country. Start arresting the seditious actors now. Where the fuck is Jeff Sessions. I've literally seen Bigfoot more often in the past month than I have Jeff Sessions.

j0nx, Zero Hedge 27 Comments [3/15/2017 7:28:18 PM]
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Quote# 125423

(Into the Unknown, a muslim, mocks NeoMatrix's claim that all Muslims are cannibalistic rapists)

@Into the Unknown
That's not funny. Millions are suffering and dying because of your kind. And if you had power, you'd declare atheism illegal like in Saudi Arabia and slaughter us.

NeoMatrix, FSTDT comments 11 Comments [3/15/2017 3:37:01 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 125414

[On satirical media depictions of him and Trump]

I don’t sit there and say stuff about you that isn’t true. I don’t say Alec Baldwin’s a child molester. I don’t say Jake Weber’s a child molester. I don’t say you’re working with Muslim terrorists. It’s not funny! But I know it’s how much you hate the American people, that’s who you really hate. You hate the liberty movement and you hate that we’re kicking your ass politically. And just like we’re kicking your ass politically, we’re just going sit back and let you try to start your race war, we’re just going to take it. And I am going to put my energy and all of my aggressive warlike energy into politically annihilating you.

I pray to God, on the altar of Jesus Christ, and the Father and the Holy Spirit to give me the strength and just to continue to have the hedge of protection of Providence. I know I don’t deserve this Providence but God knows I mean what I’m doing, so God, please, please, please, please open everybody’s eyes and raise up other leaders to defeat these people. I just want to see this scum defeated. They hate us so much. They are sickening filth. God they are the most dishonorable monsters the world has ever seen.

Alex Jones, Right Wing Watch 19 Comments [3/15/2017 10:06:38 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 125407

[Commenting under " Developing world leaders pay respects to Castro, their champion during cold war"]

Couldn't care less. We are up against fascism and need all the allies we can get. Castro was more then welcome in the good cause. Smashing fascists like Trump and May and Farage and Le Pen is what the future is about. No prisoners taken.

The US national character was mercilessly and finally exposed for all the world to see in the recent election. Not even a dog will now pay them the tribute of one red cent. Bogey has had his day. As Graham Greene so accurately realised long ago, the American claim to stand for freedom is utterly bogus. No sale.

lasmontanas, Guardian 23 Comments [3/15/2017 4:51:54 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 125405

Our fiends at American Family Association (AFA) are sponsoring a petition drive to submit to Disney regarding their push of the LGBT agenda on our families and children, namely their first “gay moment” in the new Beauty and the Beast film. Please prayerfully consider signing the petition, so your voice is heard.

On the petition page, you will also see the good news that AFA has signed on to co-produce the upcoming animated film “Pilgrim Progress.” Check out the promo and the opportunity to support this quality family film outreach venture.

Say NO to Disney, say YES to Pilgrim's Progress!
Disney's new Beauty and the Beast movie features 'exclusively gay moment'.
AFA.NET


Ray Comfort, Ray Comfort's Facebook page 26 Comments [3/15/2017 12:42:50 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 125403

They're weak, pathetic, low T, skinny or fat, whiney, decadent, nihilistic, hedonist faggots who have no sense of duty or responsibility to their people- which is what separates boys from men. They have no self-awareness, constantly complaining about how awful women are these days while never realizing how awful men are these days. Most of them have no masculine skills, are afraid of guns and wouldn't be able to protect a woman and their children if they needed to. I could probably go on but that's what immediately comes to mind. This entire generation is garbage- but the reddit faggots only ever talk about how horrible the women are while believing they deserve better. The men are just as bad. Men aren't men and women are women. They've become mutually unattractive to each other.

However, I don't think it's this generation's fault for being so garbage. They were born into a civilization in the stages of decline and have been indoctrinated for their entire lives that this insane decadence is normal. It's completely understandable that a generation of people growing up in this cultural wasteland turned out the way they did, and I don't entirely blame them. It's just sad.

Meldidnothingwrong, Reddit 21 Comments [3/14/2017 10:31:34 PM]
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Quote# 125401

I seem to be the only one here who has actually read Kevin MacDonald's thoughts on the matter (surprise, a Jew did more research than WNs), so let me answer:
The Jewish situation (from 135-1948AD) should show you what happens when an ethnic group loses its own country. White people are deeply hated around the world (some for good reasons like apartheid, other for bad reasons like jealousy), and will increasingly be under siege as their numbers decrease in a "post-racist" world (ironic, I know). In a world where anti-White racism isn't considered racism, you can expect a barrage of discrimination covered up as "tolerance" in the next generation. I can GUARANTEE this will accelerate the more Whites are dispossessed until Whites are the new Jews, blamed for everything even when they do nothing. Which is one reason I fight hard for White nationalism for Whites even though some WNs hate me (as a Jew, taught to fight for the most oppressed, and I'm honoring the people who let my family into America).

Rameses2, Reddit 7 Comments [3/14/2017 10:27:25 PM]
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Quote# 125400

The Fallen Angels Taught Abortion

Yeshua tells us that the last days would be like the days of Noach (Matt. 24:37-38). In these days before the flood the Torah tells us:

1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of Elohim saw the daughters of men, that they were fair. And they took them wives, whomsoever they chose.
3 And YHWH said: My Spirit shall not abide in man forever. For that he also is flesh; therefore shall his days be a hundred and twenty years.
4 The N’filim were on the earth in those days and also after that, when the sons of Elohim came in unto the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. The same were the mighty men that were of old--the men of renown.
5 And YHWH saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil; continually.
(Gen. 6:1-5 HRV)

The Book of Enoch tells us that these fallen angels taught men many things, and says that they "...showed the children of men … the smitings of the embryo in the womb, that it may pass away,..." (1Enoch 69:12)


Abortion is Murder

Abortion is murder. Murder is simply the taking of an innocent human life. This is to be differentiated from "killing" when there is a righteous purpose for it. For example, the Bible sets up special cities to which a person may flee who has killed a person "by accident." The person may stay and be protected in one of these special cities until the family of the deceased has stopped looking for the person for the purpose of revenge.

Also, YHWH Himself commands capital punishment, the death penalty, for the breaking of certain commands.”. Self defense is clearly a valid reason for "killing" since the life being terminated is not innocent life. However, the taking of innocent life is considered a "sin" and "wickedness."

In the Torah we are commanded “You shall not kill”. The literal Hebrew of Ex. 20:13 means, as we read in the HRV “Do not murder”.

Moreover we read in Deut. 23:7

“Keep you far from a false matter,
and the innocent and righteous slay you not:
for I will not justify the wicked.”


Life Begins at Conception

A human being’s person hood begins not at the time that he or she has completed development in the womb and is transferred out of the mother into the world. It is clear from Scripture that there is a seamless continuity in the life of a person from the moment of conception.

YHWH knows each person from the beginning. As we read in Jeremiah:

4 And the word of YHWH came unto me, saying:
5 Before I formed you in the belly, I knew you, and before you came forth out of the
womb I sanctified you. I have appointed you a prophet unto the nations.
(Jer. 1:4-5 HRV)

Each person has a YHWH-given purpose from conception, as the Psalmist writes:

13 For You have made my reins; You have knit me together in my mother's womb.
14 I will give thanks unto You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: wonderful are
Your works, and that, my soul knows right well.
15 My frame was not hidden from You when I was made in secret, and curiously
wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.
16 Your eyes did see my unformed substance, and in Your book they were all written;
even the days that were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.
(Ps. 139:13-16 HRV)

The Spirit of Elohim is with a person in his/her mother’s womb. As we read in Luke:

11 And an angel of YHWH, who stood at the right side of the altar of incense, appeared
to Z’kharyah.
12 And he was agitated: and trembled when he saw the angel, and fear fell upon him.
13 And the angel said to him, Do not fear, Z’kharyah, because Eloah has heard the sound
of your prayer. And your wife, Elisheva, will bear to you a son, and you will call his
name Yochanan,
14 And you will have joy and gladness, and many will rejoice in his birth.
15 For he will be great before YHWH, and will not drink wine or strong drink. And he
will be filled with the Ruach HaKodesh, while he is in the womb of his mother.
16 And he will turn many of the sons of Yisrael, to YHWH their Eloah.
17 And he will go before Him, in the spirit, and in the might of Eliyahu, the prophet: that
he might turn the heart of the fathers unto the children, (Mal. 3:23-24 (4:5-6)) and those who are disobedient, to the knowledge of the just. And he will prepare for YHWH a
wholehearted people.
(Luke 1:11-17 HRV)

Any action or lack of action which intentionally causes the death of an unborn child, from the moment of conception is an act of murder.

James Trimm, Nazarene Space 13 Comments [3/14/2017 10:27:12 PM]
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Quote# 125399

Posted by mikerica (Member # 1499) on May 19, 2003 08:38 PM : I want to see this movie but I'm worried that some might say that this is blasphemy. I can remember when I was a child, I used to wish that I had God's power. Who hasn't wished that? But because the movie has Jim Carey doing stupid things that obviously God wouldn't do, I'm worried that people might say that I'm committing blasphemy by watching this film. [Eek!] My husband has told me that God knows what is in your heart and that's the most important. But I don't want to be like some who praise and worship behind close doors then goes out and sins against God. [Eek!] I'm so paranoid that God will become angry at me because of something I consider funny. [1zhelp] What's your opinion? [youpi]

Posted by Cameron (Member # 1090) on May 19, 2003 09:59 PM : I don't think that God is going to get angry at you for being amused at something. Take the movie as it is intended...as entertainment.

Posted by becauseHElives (Member # 87) on May 19, 2003 10:56 PM :
God (YEHWEH) is not amused at the entertainment of today, Mocking HIM, just the title is enough for anyone with a reverent fear of the LORD to know they should stay away.

Just a little poison every day is all it takes to kill someone

becauseHElives , Christian Message Boards and Forums 8 Comments [3/14/2017 10:19:48 PM]
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Quote# 125398

I feel raping a rapist is completely justified. If they didn't want to be raped they should not have done it. They don't deserve to be tortured less than their victims

Selena Burke, Facebook 17 Comments [3/14/2017 10:19:39 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 125395

[Taylor] Swift obviously dresses in this fashion to sell heathen self-love and to ruin God's plan for the world, because her kind are all for secular humanism. The Word is God's revelation to humanity, and as such is not worldly like the attire that Swift is ruining America's moral foundation with. There is a glorious time in America's history where such attire would have been against the law, but it is not. Alas, this great corruption is akin to the corruption that Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed over. I weep for America's future, and I will not tolerate being libeled as a fan for the seductress who wants to see the demise of America. --Elvis is King (talk) 16:38, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
Again with these blasphemous assertions? You may insist on denying the sins you commit, but God sees through your lies. Repent and perhaps the Lord Almighty will show you mercy. 141.134.75.236 (talk) 01:22, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
I do not commit sins. I am right with God, and I spend considrable time studying His Word, and excising liberal vulgar heathen abominations. --Elvis is King (talk) 02:30, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
Such arrogance. Have you forgotten that pride is sin and humility is virtue? You lie, you blaspheme and you commit the sin of hubris, and then you lie once more to deny all your sins! Such shamelessness! By God, sinner, repent! Do you truly wish to invoke the Lord Almighty's wrath upon your person? 141.134.75.236 (talk) 02:54, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
You do not realize that I am more principled and conservative than you could ever hope to be, and I revere and am right with the Lord. I do not engage in liberal sins like all of these atheist nerds who don't care about anything. --Elvis is King (talk) 03:09, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
So you persist in your denial and your arrogance? Truly, is there any way to make you see the error in your ways? May the Lord guide you back to the flock, for verily, you are a lost lamb that has wandered greatly from the sacred path. 141.134.75.236 (talk) 03:17, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Elvis is King , RationalWiki 16 Comments [3/14/2017 10:18:53 PM]
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Quote# 125394



A.F. Branco, Patriot Update 15 Comments [3/14/2017 10:16:33 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 125384

[One of Catholic Nationalist's former profile image, featuring a srbosjek, a knife used by the Croatian Ustase to massacre concentration camp inmates during WWII.



Catholic Nationalist, Facebook 10 Comments [3/14/2017 10:12:37 PM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 125383

On a recent episode of his “Pray In Jesus Name” program, Religious Right activist and former GOP state Rep. Gordon Klingenschmitt called on Christians to boycott the upcoming “Beauty and the Beast” movie so as to prevent demonic spirits from using it to “recruit children into sin.”

Reacting to reports that there is a “gay moment” in the film, Klingenschmitt said he “[doesn’t] want to know about it” and recommended that Christian parents boycott this “homosexual children’s movie” in order to “avoid having their children recruited into the homosexual agenda.”

Disney and those involved in the production of this movie are being driven by demonic spirits to “intentionally [promote] sin to children,” he warned.

“There is destruction in the future of these people who cooperate with that evil,” Klingenschmitt said, as he prayed that God will “stop the recruiting of our children into the sinful lifestyle of homosexuality” and that Americans will finally “wake up and boycott the Disney corporation,” which he claimed has been “using money to fund the gay agenda for decades.”

Gordon Klingenschmitt, Right Wing Watch 12 Comments [3/14/2017 10:12:22 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 125381

I'm glad I'm a kuffar, because at least I'm not a child-diddling cannibalistic rapist like you Muslims.

NeoMatrix, FSTDT 17 Comments [3/14/2017 10:12:13 PM]
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Submitted By: Hu's On First

Quote# 125377

Trump grabs 'em by the Twitter as he says he has 'tremendous respect for women' on International Women's Day

Donald Trump boasted on Wednesday that he has 'tremendous respect' for women.

The president sent two tweets in honor of International Women's Day – drawing a sharp contrast from his long-ago comments about women that drew outrage during the 2016 campaign.

'I have tremendous respect for women and the many roles they serve that are vital to the fabric of our society and our economy,' Trump wrote in one tweet.

'On International Women's Day, join me in honoring the critical role of women here in America & around the world,' a second message read. The two tweets were sent from both Trump's official '@POTUS' account and his personal account.




Ivanka Trump echoed her father's sentiments, tweeting: 'Today, we celebrate women and are reminded of our collective voice and the powerful impact we have on our societies and economies.'

Trump was regularly pilloried during the presidential campaign in a seemingly endless series of stories about his past comments about women, despite declaring more than 50 times over the course of the White House race that he 'cherished' women.

The most infamous example to the contrary was an audio recording in which he is heard explaining that famous men can get away with sexually abusing women.

'When you're a star, they let you do it,' the president was heard in ten-year-old audio, captured before a broadcast of 'Access Hollywood.'

'Grab them by the p***y,' Trump said in the recording. 'You can do anything.'

Then-candidate Trump issued a pointed mea culpa, the first such plaintive apology of his political career.

'I said it, I was wrong, and I apologize,' he said in a video message.

'I've never said I'm a perfect person, nor pretended to be someone that I'm not. I've said and done things I regret, and the words released today on this more than a decade-old video are one of them. Anyone who knows me knows these words don't reflect who I am.'

Donald Trump, Daily Mail 14 Comments [3/14/2017 10:08:09 PM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 125376

Libertarians need the alt-right because the demographic changes cause by mass immigration will assure that you will permanently lose on most of your major issues. Whatever pet theory you have to why this is the case is really irrelevant...increasing 3rd world immigration will bring increasing 3rd world dysfunction into 1st world countries. Identity politics will become the only politics because the different demographic groups have no common identity or history. Like in many diverse societies, politics will become an ethnic spoils system where differing groups demand more free shit and special privileges from the government while crushing the middle and upper classes with punishing taxation until the whole system collapses. Competing groups who view each other as hostile aliens will fight for state power in zero-sum fashion while promising ever more freebies to their tribe with no regard for long-term consequences. All this will do is work to increase centralized state power exponentially and further bloat the bureaucracy, as it becomes more craven and corrupt.
Listen, the world is full of people that don't give a flying fuck about liberty as you might understand it. They just want material comfort. Many more enlightened lower class people realize that if you don't like whatever law, you just break it, it's that simple, so who gives a shit about runaway regulation? This small government, limited regulation autismo is largely a white phenomenon, that is an inherited legacy of traditional American mythology surrounding the 1776 revolution and Enlightenment thought in general, that many non-whites, immigrants especially, don't identify with and don't give one flying red fuck about. Take a look around at any Libertarian gathering and report back to me the racial makeup of the attendees. And yes, there's always exceptions, I'm talking about general trends. Problem is, democracy is winner takes all and general trends determine the outcome of your politics which determines the outcome of your society.
The drug war, however, is an exception to this. The demographically induced leftward shift (and yes, the kvetching of the libertarians) may end the drug war as we know it in a decade or two. I'm no fan of the drug war, vice is it's own punishment, but drugs are given WAY too much importance in the grand scheme of things by libertarians. They focus on the drug issue because it's easy...it's a naked example of the government persecuting peaceful people for consensual crimes. I'm on board that this is an obvious hypocritical evil, and a massive waste of resources. Still, this being your only hill to die on is ridiculous...is illegal drug use so important to the health and happiness of the average person that it warrants this much attention? Let me ask you this...if you achieved your Libertopia of all drugs totally legal, how would the life of the average illegal drug abuser (already a small subset of the population) realistically change? Yes I could by crack rocks at CVS instead of the corner hustler, woopedy fuckin doo. If you're so inclined and have a modicum of discretion, drugs are very easy to buy and use without police harassment. Well what if you're a drug dealer? Could get a hefty prison sentence. Well, drug dealers should be thanking their lucky stars for drug prohibition, because if there was no risk of incarceration, they would never be able to compete against GloboCorp Dope Distributors. Now you've just removed thousands of independent sole proprietors practicing agorism in favor of corporate oligarchy where liquor store clerks making minimum wage hawk heavily taxed tweaker fuel.
I also think that blaming inner-city dysfunction on the drug war is laughably naive. You really think that Detroit would just become a modern marvel of prosperity if it's denizens could buy black tar at Costco? Give me a fuckin break. If anything, removing one of the last viable side-hustles from a poverty stricken and embittered populace would probably have them grasp at even more anti-social methods of illicit income than drug dealing, even though battles over territory are a real problem.

This also begs the question, why are universally applicable drug laws only hurting black communities to the point that this totally defines their socio-economic plight? Do minorities just LOVE drugs that much? You're not realizing the extent to which disparities in what we might define as social pathologies follow African majority societies EVERYWHERE they exist around the globe. The richest black neighborhood in the U.S. has more violent crime than the poorest white neighborhood. There are globally evident IQ disparities amongst different races independent of income levels or socioeconomic status. Lower IQ's do highly correlate with all manner of adverse life outcomes, including the odds that you will do time in prison. To what extent this is a cultural artifact or is genetically determined is not really relevant to the outcome, but it does no one any favors to avoid the overwhelming evidence of cognitive/behavioral racial differences in favor of glib explanations for disparities that invite even sillier faux solutions. It makes you rely on vast international conspiracy theorizing and ad-hoc rationalizations as an explanatory basis for your religious-like faith that all human groups are the same in ability, potential, etc. This is an extraordinarily shaky foundation that will continue to be eviscerated by the alt-right.

Cretus clawfinger , Reddit 2 Comments [3/14/2017 10:07:43 PM]
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Quote# 125373


As for Jewish influence, who denies Jewish overrepresentation in power circles? Jews dont. It's like denying Black overrepresentation in the NBA. You guys get mad about Jews power in the media too, but don't even see the evolution of it play out in real time...Jews are just better equipped for entrepreneurship in media due to a) our higher verbal IQ and b) our culture that prioritizes hard-work. For every Lauren Southern trailblazing, there's a Cernovich, Rebel Media, or Milo creating new platforms.

But as Theodore Herzl said, Zionism is necessary because Europeans will always get jealous of Jews inevitable domination of industries.

Rameses2, Reddit 0 Comments [3/14/2017 10:07:24 PM]
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Quote# 125370

I am personally inclined to accept the transwoman over the homosexual, or more accurately, I am more inclined to accept the autogynephile over the homosexual. I think there is a reason the homosexual was integrated into imperialism first, and there seems to be a struggle in the ranks of the bourgeoisie over the integration of autogynephiles.

Even though I am inclined to accept autogynephiles over the homosexuals, I freely admit I think the radical feminists have pegged them pretty accurately. The autogynephile does have the mind of the rapist, or rather, the sexual fantasies of the autogynephile tend toward extreme submission of the female. There is an article where a feminist recounts her experience as a phone sex operator talking to men who we would know recognize as having autogynephilia, and she points out none of these men ever fantasized about becoming a woman and dominating other men with their new vaginas. Their sexual fantasies are always playing the submissive, and clearly “Stefonknee” is no different.

I would say the integration of the autogynephile is basically a confirmation of the rape-culture thesis. Basically the Oppressor Man and his Oppressor Woman force the Homo-Fascist (the white gay male in charge of the LGBTQ alphabet-soup in the West) to integrate the autogynephile because they get-off on autogynephilic sexual fantasies. Not all women, but a lot of them do have rape fantasies. The rape fantasies of women aren’t exactly like the sexual thoughts of the autogynephile. The rape fantasies of some straight women are usually more narcissistic; the man is raping me because he is overcome with lust for me and must possess me now. This fantasy is still focused on the hyper-exaggerated erotic mental state of the male rapist. The submission fantasies of the autogynephile are being in the act of submission itself, having really nothing to do with imagining the erotic mental states of their would-be sexual partners.

In that sense, the sexual thoughts of the autogynephile are closer to straight men than any woman. It is probably easiest for the straight man to sympathize with the autogynephile, especially any straight man who has every constructed an elaborately detailed feminine fantasy object for masturbation purposes. The difference seems to be one of identification with the feminine fantasy object, or in the case of the autogynephile, perhaps even a lack of imagination on the erotic mental states of actual women.

In any case, from my previous experience working with LGBTQ people in student activism, I am inclined to believe anti-transwoman sentiment is because the homosexual male doesn’t want to really integrate this identity into the LGBTQ alpha-bet soup they control. The male homosexual sees the autogynephile as a homosexual with a mental disorder. If this is true, I suspect the real difference between the male homosexual and the autogynephile relates to the onset of the sexual imagery. The homosexual male begins identifying with the feminine fantasy object earlier on, even before the onset of puberty, while the autogynephile is a post-puberty version of the same sort of internal fantasies. The continuity here is best evidenced by the androphilic transwoman, who in another context would develop into a ‘normal’ male homosexual. The male homoseuxal sees this an understands what he could have been forced to become, given another cultural context, and fears the integration of the transwomen because it could lead to the extinction of his identity, given a profound shift in political/cultural values.

Lastly, the androphilic transwomen actually desires straight men, seeing ‘normal’ homosexuals as too effeminate to desire sexual encounters with. While they are really homosexuals, they don’t actually desire other homosexuals. In some way, this leads to a divergence of how the two types of homosexual construct their sexuality. The androphillic (homosexual) transwomen desires straight men, while the homosexual can either desire masculine men or they can fetishize other homosexuals (this seems to be the most common). The most extreme form of the fetishizing other homosexuals can be seen in the bug-chasing fantasy. The homosexual with the bug-chasing fantasy fetishes the male homosexual with aids as the ultimate male-slut, and begins to resemble the straight male slut/virgin binary that is more commonly known about.

Myself, I believe Marxist-Leninists must return to an anti-homosexual view, a view that has been held by Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Hoxha, etc. If this means an alliance with the transwoman, autogynephile and/or androphilic, so be it. However, we should not be under any illusions about the nature of their identities. Ideally, in the imperialist oppressor nations, after a revolution, the LGTBQ pyramid will be restructed, with the male homosexuals at the very bottom. The queer-theorist autogynephiles will be near the top of the hierarchy, followed by the female bisexual, then the male bisexual. Some politically acceptable form of lesbianism will police it, but will be directly answerable to the party.

Free Criticism, Maoist Rebel News 9 Comments [3/14/2017 10:07:15 PM]
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Submitted By: Hu's On First

Quote# 125369

And, feminism, why should there be anything more said about this ever? Well, because other people are saying stuff, and so the conversation never seems to move on to anything else.

The question that’s been percolating in my own mind, that I suppose I should genuinely try to answer, is, What business do I have, rejecting the meme of Feminism, when I have surely benefited to the nth degree by its cultural priorities over the last century? Shouldn’t my gratitude extend to a more nuanced articulation of what it is and it’s importance for everyone, rather than a flippant, “I’m not a feminist” as I have fallen into the way of saying.

Because surely I have benefited. I have various higher levels of education. I’m not strapped to my kitchen (well, that’s not true, I am, but so is my husband). I am allowed to fling an impossible number of words around in this forum. I have the freedom to go around town driving a car and wearing whatever I want. I am allowed to vote and run for public office, and even, should I so desire, work outside the home. I am not belittled and maligned in anyway because of my gender.

Certainly, I would be willing to gather up a tepid offering of praise to the vagaries of the age, and a most sincere thanks to the women who worked so devotedly on behalf of women they would never meet, whose lives they wanted to impact. When I told my children, a couple of weeks ago, that 100 years ago women in this country couldn’t vote, they were rightly shocked, and it was nice to give honor where honor was due, to women who stuck their necks out and fought for something worthy.

But, like any good human endeavor and striving, feminism didn’t stay there, did it. Feminism isn’t any more about the freedom of women to comfortably inhabit the wide open space of cultural engagement, to get an education and strive after productivity and the betterment of humanity. If that was what feminism is, then we would all be fussing a lot lot more about women in other contexts who don’t enjoy our freedom, and in general be caring about the humanity of all people everywhere.

And that isn’t on the menu of modern feminism. Show me where I’m wrong. But my experience of the feminist agenda is that 1. It is stridently political and contrary to the Christian gospel 2. It includes the dehumanization of men and infants 3. It has fallen into the pit of embracing and promoting the victim status culture so much the rage these days.

Christian women, who take the bible seriously and don’t read it with their fingers crossed and Bart Ehrman in their pocket, have to acknowledge that the humanity of the individual is a gift from God, and that every single individual’s humanity matters. That’s the baseline. So there can’t be the de-gendering of men because of all the icky testosterone. But neither can there be the chattel-izing of children, neither killing them nor reducing them to virtue signaling. When we were The Other, the war was perhaps worth fighting. But we are no longer The Other. All the stubborn blindness to our humanity has been transferred to other groups.

More also, because the humanity of others is only one side of the coin, the divinity of God has been chucked by the wayside. God is God. But modern feminism doesn’t acknowledge that remarkable fact. And God being God, he is allowed to order humanity as he wills. When you make being a woman the main thing, and jettison the habitation of scripturally defined gendered roles, you are setting yourself above God himself, and making it impossible to see the central tenant of Christianity–the incarnation of God into the world, the cross, and the saving of the world. What everybody likes to call Egalitarianism subverts the images that God himself paints into humanity to reflect his own glory.

Now, we could disagree vigorously about what Biblically Inhabited Gender Roles look like. I’m only on chapter three of my Epic of Biblical Womanhood and am struggling mightily not to let the book fall from my nerveless fingers and give up. Ms. Evans giant straw biblical woman needs to be huffed and puffed and blown right over. And maybe I’ll get to it sometime. But it would sure help the conversation if we could agree, at least, that God is the Head, and we are all subordinate to him.

To say it in the plainest way possible. Modern feminist categories have fallen into the way of idolatry, the way all human categories eventually do. An idolatry that dehumanizes the other and breaks people and systems apart rather than putting them back together. And it’s gotten to be so bad that I, as a Christian, am unwilling to brand myself with that label. Feminism, at its core, is inconsistent with my Christianity. So while I’m grateful for the sacrifice of the women of yesteryear, I’m not willing to compromise with a rigid political agenda that doesn’t build up the humanity of massive portions of the human family.

The modern iteration of feminism has squandered its own heritage. It is in the pigsty of cultural rot. I prefer the clean, cool, rich comfort of the Father’s house, even though He identifies himself with male gendered pronouns. Better one day in those courts than a thousand spent elsewhere.

Anne Kennedy, Patheos 4 Comments [3/14/2017 10:07:06 PM]
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As I’ve been slapping paint around and filling my lungs with dust and anxiety (school room almost done), besides listening to the very funny Bertie’s Guide to Life and Mothers, I’ve been musing on the ridiculousness of Lena Dunham, and of modern feminism in general. I finally got to see her petulant tuxedo selfie, for the Met Gala, which garment I guess she hoped would allure and seduce, and simultaneously shock and dismay.

What, I asked myself, are the reasons a woman might wear a traditional man’s outfit to a fancy occasion? There might be all kinds. I tried to wrap my mind around some of them. Comfort? Being so settled in oneself that, preferring black shiny trousers and a tie you just went with it? Confusion? You were standing in front of your closet and accidentally took your husband or one night stand’s fancy dress pants and shoved them on and miraculously they fit? Only later you realized, Oh No, I’m out in public and I’m not wearing a dress! Or, more likely, you want everyone at the party to Notice You. And so you do what you think will be shocking.
Except, in the year 2016, a woman wearing trousers isn’t shocking. And for real, there are some sort of very beautiful neck tie, scarf like things that I’ve seen some women wear that have made me commit the sin of envy. But Ms. Dunham wasn’t trying, apparently, to be pretty, except that she was, because when she wasn’t noticed she took grave offense.

Maybe none of this matters, but I’ve been thinking about it because I think Christians tend to be just as confused about these sorts of things as little Miss Lena (as she is always acting like a child, it’s so hard to call her Ms. Dunham). Well, maybe not Just as confused, but close.

I mean, there’s that whole chapter in Ms. Held Evan’s Year of Biblical Womanhood (which I seem to have lost in the move, felicitously) where she bashes her way around the bible, sees the injunction for women to cover their heads, decides not to work her way out of her exegetical paper bag, puts on the scarf and then angrily goes and sits on her roof, all to show that the bible is so stooopid. The whole contrived scenario smacks of Lena’s petulant, childish refusal to deal with reality as it stands.

Men and women are different. And women, for the most part, are physically more delicate. And, would you believe it, many men like to look at women and find women to be physically appealing, not when they wear tuxedos nor also when they put on spandex, but when they look sort of ordinary and maybe even a little bit put together.

Like maybe some man’s wife shaped her eyebrows, and went the middle way between comfort and grace on the shoe, and applied a little product in the hair to make it look less frizzy. She put on something sort of pretty, but not skin tight, but not the ugliest most ‘modest’ thing she could find either. When she sat in her pew, struggling with her toddler, some of the men could see her collar bones. (Actually, you, when you saw her, weren’t thinking about what she was wearing because You, at least, were thinking about Jesus.

This, of course, is very evil. All men should only be attracted to pure womanhood divorced from any material form. Whether in a long denim skirt or a tuxedo, men must take what they can get. Oh wait, that’s too aggressive. They must just be silent and if a woman decides she wants attention, he might give it ever so meekly.

Christian purity culture, which, I confess, I don’t really understand, seems like it falls into the same sort of gnostic confusion. Don’t be bound by the body. So that means, unaccountably, covering it completely up. Because holiness. How is this very different from Lena Dunham expecting a hunky man to like her in the clothes of a man? The body is complicated and appealing. Shouldn’t you think about it, pray about it, try to work with it as it is? Frail, but sometimes glorious?

This is only half a thought. I have some things to say about femininity and self loathing. But I have to go on a horrid walk, because health, Not Vanity. Just kidding, it’s only vanity.

Anne Kennedy, Patheos 4 Comments [3/14/2017 10:06:08 PM]
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WHY DO PEOPLE HATE FICTIONKIN?

Many people say these fictionkin are crazy, and they make people's creativity worthless. However, there is historical fiction, and they happen to be very creative. Maybe people object to fictionkin since they love atheism.

Fictionkin means the supernatural exists, and there is more to this horrible death-filled world. If there are fictionkin, there will be like celebrities with superpowers. Fans will love the stories even more, since they now can meet their favorite characters! However, the evil characters should not exist. Hopefully if there is a god, then God will make people's favorite characters real.


Anonymous, Yahoo Answers 7 Comments [3/14/2017 10:05:37 PM]
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There are not enough baby elephant videos in the world to soothe and distract me from all of the pain and suffering I see daily in the news. At the moment, I am obsessed with the Zika virus, which has just been declared a global emergency by the World Health Organization. As more and more babies are born with microcephaly, male politicians in Latin American countries are requesting that women not get pregnant for the next two years, while simultaneously denying them access to contraception and abortion.

I’m sure that men will wait patiently until 2018 to have sex with their wives and girlfriends, and I’m equally certain the extraordinary number of rapists in those regions will stop raping women during the same time period. But in case the menfolk don’t cooperate, there are always coat hangers, and women’s lives will be at risk along with the risks that the virus poses to their children. Men, however, don’t seem to have much skin in the game (even though they are refereeing it along with the mosquitos.)

And I notice this is a recurring theme. Too many men coasting ahead of their own wake.

Often men do suffer along with women, though. For example, men breathe the same poisoned air and drink the same polluted water women do. They die in wars alongside raped and murdered female civilians. They are among the poor and the homeless. American men perpetrate — but are also killed by — gun violence. When the human race begins to go extinct due to climate change, men will not yet have left the planet… I think. But here’s the thing: Men are experiencing karma. Women, on the other hand, are experiencing toxic masculinity — something that has been actively destroying the world since our first human ancestors, standing upon two legs, started walking around Africa three million years ago. If only “Lucy” were available for comment. I think of her as Patient Zero.

Here’s a list of various domestic and international male-made problems, in no particular order:

Climate change

Domestic violence

War

Rape

Sex trafficking

Wealth gap

Pay gap

Air and water pollution

Gun violence

Under-education of girls

Degrading porn

Religious oppression of women

Overpopulation

Deforestation

Poaching

Slavery

Gender discrimination

Poverty

Hunger

Extinction of species

Terrorism

Torture

Sexual harassment

FGM

Political corruption

Homelessness

Restricted reproductive rights

Exploitation of fossil fuels

Strip mining

Clubbing of baby seals

I’m sorry I didn’t have time to add many things to the list. Feel free to add more in the comments.

What can be done? Well, I’ve decided the Earth needs a Mandemic. The human herd must be culled, and it’s time for buck season.

I know what you’re thinking… Cool! How could this work?

I happened to be watching an episode of Star Trek: Voyager last night when the idea came to me. There could be a virus that causes gene mutations in men that rewrites their DNA. Then, when men have sex with women, they are drained of their DNA, “where it is then implanted into females, causing the death of the males. As a result, new males are constantly created and harvested” by women, as suits their needs. You should have seen the desiccated corpses on the Taresian planet!

But perhaps this is too harsh implausible. It is science fiction, after all.

Look, I’m not an infectious disease specialist. I’m not exactly sure how this could work. I just know that there are 200 million missing females in the world because of patriarchy, so Mother Nature needs to put her finger on the scales, and if She would kindly oblige, just push down a little extra hard.

“But I love men.”

Ok. You probably do love men. Most women have some men in their lives that they dearly love. There are tons of wonderful men! So sure, it will be sad and tragic when the Mandemic rages with the fire of a thousand suns and randomly selects enough male victims to disrupt the current power structure around the world. This will be necessary to create an opening for women to become equal — maybe even dominant.

But isn’t our only hope the removal of excessive male humans from the continents? If women don’t take the reins of this doomed planet and get cracking on resolving those few items listed above, we don’t stand a chance.


Lori Day, Feminist Current 3 Comments [3/14/2017 10:05:10 PM]
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Right-wing attorney Larry Klayman of Freedom Watch posted a video over the weekend praising Attorney General Jeff Sessions for saying that he is open to naming a special counsel to investigate the actions of the Justice Department under President Obama.

Klayman vowed “to be in effect, a type of Hamburger Helper” for the Justice Department in this effort, working alongside Sessions to ensure that the “evil forces of the left” working in opposition to President Trump are destroyed and put in prison.

“I commend Attorney General Jeff Sessions,” Klayman said, “and I hope to work with him in this noble goal. This is just round one. It’s time that the evil forces of the left be legally destroyed. In this world that we live in today, it’s either them or us; the two of us cannot live side-by-side. One is going to have to go, legally, peacefully. But these people who are trying to destabilize the Trump presidency and not have this country be made great again, frankly, they need to be thrown in prison.”

Larry Klayman, Right Wing Watch 8 Comments [3/14/2017 4:39:25 PM]
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