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Quote# 134619

The first doubts were as I described here. I then realized dead things don't come to life by themselves, so life needed a miracle to start. And if there was a miracle there was a Miracle Maker. If the origin of life was by a miracle, then it became possible to consider the origin of species (actually major taxonomic divisions) was a result of a miracle. Michael Denton's book Evolution a Theory in Crisis (it's a pain to read) pretty much destroyed most reason to believe in evolution.

The more I studied biology and science, and the more I studied real scientific disciplines like physics, I realized evolutionary biology is a sham science. Privately, many chemists and physicists (whom I consider real scientists) look at evolutionary biologists with disdain. Evolutionary biologist Jerry Coyne himself admitted: In Science's pecking order, evolutionary biology lurks somewhere near the bottom, far closer to [the pseudo science of] phrenology than to physics.

Then I look at the behavior of defenders of evolution. Many of them hate Christians and act unethically and ruin people's lives like Ota Benga and personal friends like professor of biology Caroline Crocker and persecute Christian students. They tried to deliberately create deformed babies in order to just prove evolution. They tried to get me expelled from graduate school when I was studying physics, merely because I was a Christian creationists. It was none of their business, but they felt they had the right to ruin my life merely because I believed in Jesus as Lord and Creator.

I then realized many evolutionists (not the Christian evolutionists) are Satanically inspired because of their psycho evil hatred. So I realized even more, they are not of God, and therefore not on the side of truth. They promote "The Lie" because the father of Darwinism is the Father of Lies. Darwin himself referred to certain Christian doctrines as "damndable".

stcordova, r/creation 7 Comments [11/28/2017 2:13:28 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134615

Since being queer is a mental construct, there are no rights that accrue to that which is not real.

There can be no penalty for not dealing with that which is not real

Thibodeaux, Free Republic 5 Comments [11/28/2017 2:12:42 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134607

Since slavery is inevitable, we had better choose the right daddy. Since slavery is intentional, we had better rely upon God’s strength to present ourselves to Him. True freedom is slavery to Christ.

Keith Krell, Bible.org 14 Comments [11/28/2017 5:57:49 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 134600

And what happens to the murdered unborn? The Christian Bible says:
"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6
Since they had no chance to accept Jesus, they are being sent straight to Hell. Because the Bible says so--and it says not a thing otherwise.
So what does the Bible say on abortionism?
"But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven." Matt 19:14. Also Luke 18:16 and Mark 10:14. Abortionists are prohibiting children from coming to Jesus.



The Christian is gonna go very easy on you here, ok? Ok! Relative to your anti-Biblical claims that (1) babies are sent to Heaven if they die (without knowing Jesus) and (2) that babies are innocent, have you actually read the Christian Bible in it's full historical-grammatical context? NOT!

In our Bible, Jesus explicitly states that NOONE goes to Heaven without being Saved! There is no other way and no shortcuts, for anyone, including unborn and young children. That's Christian Bible and true Christian faith plain and simple! In your ridiculous scenario where babies are somehow magically exempt from the rules of Salvation because they are "innocent", at what age then are they no longer innocent and require to be Saved? Please do tell and use the Christian Bible in doing so!

What's more, if you're to believe that babies go to Heaven, then you're supporting abortionism. Because we know, including from the Bible, that many, if not most, people will not be Saved, then according to YOUR theology, baby murder would only assure that all 100% will end up in Heaven (by circumventing Salvation, of course). How sickening!

Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D., Christian News Network 13 Comments [11/28/2017 5:57:41 AM]
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Quote# 134583

Hello brothers and sisters in Christ. I know that people are mocking the soon return of Jesus for His church. I know that over many generations people were sure that his return for us was imminent, and yet it didn't happen. There have always been things that "fit" the signs of His return. But, never before, have so many things described in prophesy all come together at one same time. Do you see it?

On top of the natural disasters increasing, and the love of mankind waxing cold, the in- your-face rejection of God's laws for mankind, the uprisings between nations, there are now in the news every day, something new for us to look at. I'm talking about Aritifical Intelligence, cloning, the bit coin,DNA searches, the fact that truth is no longer in the news, that churches have become lukewarm and spouting heresy..........these are all signs of satan setting up the world for the arrival of the antichrist. Some of these things have never been seen before........but, they will affect lives in negative ways in the near future.

The bit coin will give power to the rich to control all the rest of the world's population. DNA information will lead to the culling of people for their race, and for their ethnic cultural backgrounds. AI will lead to all kinds of terrible things. The news will report everything as " it's okay - no problems here. Nothing to see - move on", as they are already doing today, only worse.

The media are keeping the people so focused on the personalities of our politicians and celebrities, that the people are so busy attacking each other, that they don't look beyond all that, and see what is transpiring around the globe that will soon affect each and every one of us. "Thinking themselves wise, they became fools". Just my opinion, but I really feel that our Lord is about to make His encore here, and take us out of this world. I think it will be much sooner than most even imagine. Seven or so years later He will come back and His feet will touch the earth, and, those seven years are going to be the worse years of earth's history. His kingdom will then prevail.

I appeal to you to don't get so focused on our country's problems and the mega storm of hate that surrounds it, that you don't look further into all the events now happening, and being downplayed, that will soon effect the whole world. And, that will affect everyone's eternity. We are, today, being played by satan and his minnions.........big time. But, most people aren't looking to see it. Open your eyes. Be watchmen on the wall........share what you learn with others.

kathymendel, Rapture Ready 7 Comments [11/28/2017 5:57:33 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134582

"Even if the alt-right becomes more popular, it will always have militant opposition willing to fight it at any cost"

According to Reuters at the very least 70 million Americans already agree with our goals. Assuming those are almost exclusively whites that's nearly half of American whites already providing us with implicit support, alt-right or no alt-right. Without a change, and all studies on diversity showing how cancerous it is a civil war is likely regardless of whether or not the alt-right exists.

"and of course a lot of minority people are unlikely to want to "peacefully" get deported."

This is just leftist wishful thinking to act like they have some spooky armed underclass ready to fight. Hispanics are by and large here for money, and money only. Make it less economically viable to be here, and they'll leave. But if forced deportations happen there's no reason to believe it won't just be like Operation Wetback when Hispanic citizens were forcibly deported. You'd be surprised how compliant people are when told what to do by an authority figure. Or did the Germans forced out of Bohemia after WW2 also start a civil war?

Edassasail, Reddit 11 Comments [11/28/2017 5:57:26 AM]
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Quote# 134581

" Tolerant towards other religions " , now that is true Christianity [ not ] .

ppp777, Christian News Network 7 Comments [11/28/2017 5:57:01 AM]
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Quote# 134579

After reading Martin Niemöller’s poem “First They Came For The Socialists…,” Moore decided to write his own version in honor of Davis: “Ladies in gentlemen, we can say the same thing today. They came for the bakers, I didn’t bake cakes. They came for the florists, but I didn’t deal with flowers. They came for the little clerk down in Kentucky by the name of Kim Davis, but I’m not a clerk, I have nothing do with issuing licenses. Then they came for me, and nobody was left.”

“This will touch every person in this room, every child in this room eventually,” he said of Obergefell. “This opinion is not like other opinions that have been issued.”

Roy Moore, Right Wing Watch 18 Comments [11/28/2017 5:55:33 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 134578

(in response to story "Man says he fatally shot son in self-defense"):

Probably an alt-left sjw, protesting his parent's house and rules. Very bizarre, but these days and times...

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - News Network 15 Comments [11/28/2017 5:55:18 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 134608

What a blessed thing was Jesus’ life. He lived a life of 30 + years in total perfection and He never sinned once, He never lied, He never stole, and He never coveted. Jesus was perfect in every way, and that’s why He, as the Sinless One, could satisfy the wrath of God. If Jesus was not sinless and Jesus was not God (which of course, He is), we would still be in our sins, because it takes a perfect sacrifice to be able to forgive the most imperfect of creatures (us!).

Jack Wellman, What Christians Want to Know 16 Comments [11/28/2017 2:32:20 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 134605

I think lots of people are banking on what I call the "Fukuyama thesis" re: China, which I understand to be a general skepticism about China's ability to seriously challenge the US for the following reasons:

1.) Basic cultural (or perhaps innate?) differences which predispose the Chinese towards low risk behaviour and conformity. The basic claim is that catch-up technological progress is different from progress on the bleeding edge and that the Chinese are better at the former than the latter. From what I understand, there may be some truth to this, although it's exaggerated and also complicated by the fact that many of the major breakthroughs in the US are the result of work done by immigrants from China, SK, etc.

2.) A lack of responsive institutions and the absence of checks-and-balances on government exercise of power. Fukuyama and his comrades thinks this cuts both ways I think; when China has good leaders, the upside is amazing because gov't projects are expeditiously completed, but then you also have to deal with the Maos. Someone like Zhang Weiwei would probably counter by noting that China has built informal norms through the Communist Party that emphasize promotion based on merit; I think this is compelling, although I'm still not completely sold.

3.) Long-term demographic problems. Unless I'm mistaken, China has a massive long-term problem with dysgenics. Also, if China's trajectory is anything like SK or Japan, young people are going to have real problems with under-employment, diminished social mobility, etc. The social mobility thing is probably a big thing in China in the long-run; I read some interview by a Sinologist that like => 90%people who have seen the largest gains in China are those whose lineage can be traced back to Qing aristocrats. (This is premised on the assumption that the socially immobile have the social capital and the desire to mobilize though; from what I understand, rural areas tend be the most conservative and exhibit the staunchest support for the party.)

James, Information Processing 0 Comments [11/27/2017 11:37:39 PM]
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Quote# 134604

I think we should pray if we want to pray. And these others need to shut up and turn their heads if they don’t like it. Just like the opinions of does one breastfeed in public or not. We thankfully have a great president now so I’m thinking he wouldn’t go against people praying no matter where plus he just might put Prayer back in schools. Be find with me! Anthesist can stay home and home school instead of the religious staying home. This country needs more Prayer then probably we wouldn’t have so many atheists

Lisa Franey, Christian News Network 12 Comments [11/27/2017 11:37:28 PM]
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Quote# 134603

Netizen James:
"The 'establishment of religion' clause of the First Amendment means at least this: Neither a state nor the Federal Government can set up a church. Neither can pass laws which aid one religion, aid all religions, or prefer one religion over another. Neither can force nor influence a person to go to or to remain away from church against his will or force him to profess a belief or disbelief in any religion. No person can be punished for entertaining or professing religious beliefs or disbeliefs, for church attendance or non-attendance. No tax in any amount, large or small, can be levied to support any religious activities or institutions, whatever they may be called, or whatever from they may adopt to teach or practice religion. " US Supreme Court on the meaning of the Establishment Clause. (330 US 1; "EVERSON v. BOARD OF EDUCATION OF EWING TP")
No, the coach, while acting in his official capacity as a government agent is NOT allowed to act in any manner which could be reasonably interpreted as being intended to promote, encourage, disdain or decry any religious belief. By participating in the student's prayer, the coach was violating the establishment clause. This is well-settled case-law. To fight it would be a stupid waste of taxpayer resources. Use that money to feed the hungry and clothe the naked and support those in prison, not to pay FRFF's lawyers. Everybody wins!

Maxwell Edison:
Flagged for blatant anti-Christian trolling.
I guarantee you if I spoke like this at an atheist website, I'd get banned so fast there'd be a hole in the space/time continuum. As such, this should not be allowed on Christian websites.

Silas Jennings:
Oh please. He didn’t even MENTION Christianity in his post.

Maxwell Edison:
Do you think I care what you think?

Maxwell Edison, Christian News Network 10 Comments [11/27/2017 11:36:48 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 134602

We should have a contest as to which of the Networks, plus CNN and not including Fox, is the most dishonest, corrupt and/or distorted in its political coverage of your favorite President (me). They are all bad. Winner to receive the FAKE NEWS TROPHY!

Donald Trump, Twitter 13 Comments [11/27/2017 11:36:24 PM]
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Submitted By: Daspletosaurus

Quote# 134601

This book is about a lot of things really, but the focus is on how genesis is truth that God did create everything. and how evolution has changed the world view of creation and taking God out of the picture! It is very good at showing that evolution is really a religion and that no matter what the "facts" show they will never believe the truth in Genesis 1-11.

There are many,many stories about him speaking at schools, and university's, even churches Where Kids and adults were shown a whole other side of creation verses evolution. Very Informative! This book is very important with kids being taught evolution in schools, national geographic, and most of T.V. and science in general. The Great Dinosaurs would be another addition to this book, as we have always heard "65,000,000" years ago the Dinosaurs Died off! That is not true at all! Check it out, very good!

David Clark, Amazon Reviews 7 Comments [11/27/2017 11:34:05 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134599

If we came from apes, why are there still apes around? You don't see any short necked giraffes do you??

dwan robinson, Youtube 22 Comments [11/27/2017 3:12:54 PM]
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Submitted By: FSM

Quote# 134594

Dude, residing in the 'most technologically advanced nation on this planet' cant change my opinion about the existence of witchcraft in the world. The truth is that these evil forces are real. Even the Holy Bible, the Divine Word of God makes mention of their existence with proofs . . . the witch of Endor. Another widely quoted verse from the Holy Bible is in Exodus 22:18 which says, "Thou shall not suffer a witch to live."

If God, the creator of the universe directly tells His prophet(s) about the practise of witchcraft, then who can suggest otherwise that "Witchcraft exists ONLY in the minds of those so desperate to "figure it all out" that they will cling frantically to even the most comically preposterous myths and fables, . . . " I wont even be surprised if some of those who deny the existence of witchcraft hide under midnight to patronize the services of a juju man.

Ndipe, Nairaland 11 Comments [11/27/2017 3:04:01 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134593

Falun Dafa has been well known for its extraordinary healing power. In my more than two decades of cultivation, I have witnessed this power over and over again. My mother started practicing Falun Dafa in 1995. She was hit by a car in 2004 when she crossed a street, and was thrown into the air. She landed in front of the wheels. Fortunately, the car stopped just in time.

Master, the founder of Falun Dafa, said:

“All of these kinds of things come to take away one’s life. But one will not be in real danger.” (Zhuan Falun)

My mother had strong righteous thoughts. She got up and said to the driver, “As a Dafa practitioner, I will not cause any problem for you. I know you are in a hurry. You can leave.” However, the driver insisted she have a check up at a hospital. She was told that she had two torn ligaments that needed immediate surgery.

Master said:

“In doing so, we also do not allow it to go astray. If you truly follow the righteous way in cultivation, nobody will dare to do something to you at will. Besides, you have the protection of my fashen, and you will not be in any danger.” (Zhuan Falun)

My mother told the doctor, “I am a practitioner. The wounds will heal once I do the Falun Dafa exercises.” She checked out of the hospital and went home. My mother recovered soon after her return home. Then, she visited the driver to show him that she had recovered. His entire family listened to the facts about Dafa and the persecution. They all quit the Chinese Communist Party (CCP).

I was illegally detained in labor camp in 2003 and my mother left home to avoid further persecution. While we were gone, my father was diagnosed with leukemia. My father, at the age of 58, had chemotherapy and other treatments for two years, but his condition worsened. My mother told him that only Falun Dafa could help him recover. With a ray of hope, he started to practice Falun Dafa.

He tossed out all his medication, and quit smoking and drinking. He studied the Fa and practiced the Dafa exercises. He felt better day by day and returned to good health in less than one month. My uncle, who did not believe in the power of Dafa, witnessed my father's recovery. Now he tells everyone that Falun Dafa is good.

When giving birth by a Cesarean section, I had a life and death experience. The doctors could not stop the bleeding and I needed a blood transfusion. However, the blood was not readily available. Although my family was deeply disturbed, my mother decided that only what Master says counts. They asked Master to stop the bleeding. I silently recited “Falun Dafa is Good; Truthfulness-Compassion-Forbearance is Good.” The bleeding stopped.

Master said:

“When disciples have ample righteous thoughts, Master has the power to turn back the tide.”

(“The Master-Disciple Bond” from Hong Yin, Volume II)

Jinglian, Minghui 3 Comments [11/27/2017 3:03:58 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134592

We not trying to prove anything. already know the truth about vaccines. Will continue to teach the truth to the world until people wake up. Vaccine free living is just one of the many aspects that are part of my spiritual teaching to spiritually regenerate the world that i live by and share with others who are interested. .

From the Oahspe bible - in the words of Jehovih " inoculations and vaccinations are the battle ax of satan. to try to save the flesh from poison by use of poison is the battle ax of satan" If you think 42 years of vaccinating your body has not harmed you you are more of a sheeple than i imagined you t o be.

Peter Mannisi, Facebook 11 Comments [11/27/2017 3:03:56 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134590

The Holistic Health Movement will eventually relegate the Vaccine Industry, and all similar aberrations of nature, to the dust-bin of history. Amen & Godspeed. The holistic health movement is SO way ahead of the curve. We recognize that there is clear distinction between the verifiable science of the body, and the detritus of propaganda supporting vaccine theory.

The Vaccine Industry will ultimately be brought down by science. There is no disputing the science of a newborn baby’s brain & central nervous system, the SCIENCE of the electro-chemical synergistic nature of vaccine-derived neurotoxins (Aluminum & Thimerosal) injected into the bloodstream; that, in point of scientific fact, all heavy metals are magnetically drawn to areas of fatty tissue, primarily the brain & central nervous system…where they systematically erode the primary core circuits necessary in supporting early childhood development.

Unknown author, Vaccine Resistance Movement 12 Comments [11/27/2017 3:01:27 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134584

When I see how many Churches are falling from God's Holy Word, I don't take that lightly. Many mega Churches and small one's alike are falling right into the hands of Satan and twisting God's Word to conform to the culture "the world"and His Word warns us not to do that very thing.

I believe that many true born again Christians are very serious about walking in the truth and that dabbling in any degree of apostasy would be akin to playing Russian roulette with Satan. What I am trying to convey here is that I don't believe we are to hide from the world, but, we are not to be living like the world or be a part of it, we are in it, but as Christians we are to walk in His Word! I have adult children who are caught up in the emergent/new age Church and my heart grieves at how many, too many are falling into the same lies.

We are told not to do anything to make a brother or sister stumble in their walk with the Lord! If I say it is o.k. to listen to worship music from Hillsong or another Church that is teaching false doctrine, then what message am I giving to these brothers and sisters in Christ? And, also, what message am I giving to the world.

And, matter of fact, when I have tried to get my adult children and others in the Church to even listen to any truth about these matters of false teaching from such Churches, I am being divisive. Therefore, I do consider this to be a very serious matter in light of God's Word and the souls of many... including our children and grand children. I believe we should fear The Lord, not man.

Roger, Rapture Ready 8 Comments [11/27/2017 2:59:47 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134576

Eldrida Urika:
"I always find it sad that grown adults can't get long with each other at all even just to work out the compromise .
Adults don't seem to have learned to share these day. They have little tolerance for other views and reject all suggestions of how to get along with small changes on each side."

Truth first:
You are totally correct in this if you apply it to the non-essentials of our lives, Eldrida. If we can find some common cause on topics that do not challenge the essence of the Bible, we must live in harmony with those people around us, and look for compromises if these can improve our relationships with them.
However, homosexuality goes to the core of who we are and how God created us. It is one of the non-negotiables of our faith and doctrine. As Christians we want to obey Jesus Christ who unequivocally rejects gay and lesbian lifestyles. We declare God to be inconsequential or, worse, to be a liar, if we even give the slightest kind of endorsement to homosexual unions. They can not be called marriages, as God made clear what he meant marriage to be. It is only when we redefine LOVE and redefine MARRIAGE in terminology that is unbiblical that we can endorse "same sex marriages". As Christian we HAVE TO warn the world about the sustained sinful state in which gays and lesbians live, and tell them that they forfeit afterlife with God if they sustain these relationships without repentance of it.

We can say all of this in a loving way, but cannot deviate from that message, even if it were to hurt the hearers.

Truth first, Christian News Network 8 Comments [11/27/2017 6:13:01 AM]
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Quote# 134566

[From "The Cost of the Union: Tranny Wins in NOVA"]

The cost of the Union’s continued existence and the subjugation of Dixie was on full display this week as Third World immigrants, Blacks and Northern transplants elected a tranny to state office in northern Virginia. Democrats are euphoric.

The Washington Post reports on the mentally-ill man elected by the coalition of non-Whites and transplants:

Democrat Danica Roem ousted longtime incumbent Del.?Robert G. Marshall (R) Tuesday, becoming the first openly transgender elected official in Virginia — and one of very few in the nation.

The race between Roem, 33, and Marshall, 73, focused on traffic and other local issues in Prince William County but also exposed the nation’s fault lines over gender identity. It pitted a local journalist who began her physical gender transition four years ago against an outspoken social conservative who has referred to himself as Virginia’s“chief homophobe” earlier this year introduced a “bathroom bill” that died in committee.

…Roem outraised Marshall 3-to-1, with nearly $500,000 in donations, much of it coming from LGBT advocates and other supporters across the country. She and her supporters executed an aggressive ground game, knocking on doors more than 75,000 times in a district with 52,471 registered voters, sitting for endless public appearances and interviews, and maintaining a steady social media presence.

How did this disaster happen? Breitbart explains that the demographic replacement of Virginians with Third World immigrants strongly aided the process. Breitbart is calling the Old Dominion the “New California”:

A remarkable transformation is underway in the Commonwealth of Virginia.

The birthplace and final resting place of George Washington, James Madison, Thomas Jefferson—and once one of the most reliably-red of red states—is being rapidly turned into a progressive stronghold.

These changes are not the result of an inside agency, or a natural evolution in political thinking, but rather the result of one of the most impactful yet least-discussed policies of the federal government.

Each year the federal government prints millions of visas and distributes these admission tickets to the poorest and least-developed nations in the world.

A middle-aged person living in parts of Virginia today will have witnessed more demographic change in the span of her life than many societies have experienced in millennia.

A census study entitled “Immigrants in Virginia,” released by University of Virginia (UVA) researchers, documented the phenomenon: “Until 1970, only 1 in 100 Virginians was born outside of the United States; by 2012, 1 in every 9 Virginians is foreign-born.”

The cost of the Union is literally the death of Dixie. Transplants are able to flood areas like northern Virginia, changing the culture and politics of the region. And vast herds of Third World immigrants are brought in, nearly all of them voting for Leftist, anti-White candidates. Southern symbols come down. Leftist policies are adopted. Men in dresses who think they are women are voted into office. Violent foreign gangs run wild on the streets. This is the sad story of how northern Virginia was destroyed. It is because of the Union.

Palmetto Patriot, Occidental Dissent 22 Comments [11/27/2017 6:12:03 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 134551

Are you from the US? If your first response when people ask you about Assad is to condemn him as an evil dictator and go "I support Rojava", then yeah, you're an imperialist my dude. You're providing support for US military actions in Syria against a sovereign government that has explicitly said it neither asked for nor wants US interference there. If you're from the US, your primary objective, as a self-proclaimed leftist, should be opposition to US imperialism in other countries. Full stop.

GoogleMichaelParenti, r/communism 5 Comments [11/27/2017 6:10:35 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134573

Through accidents of history, geography and our evolutionary past, the people of the East are more temperamentally adapted to more authoritarian styles of government. Civil society is not nearly as much of a necessity for your average citizen in China or Japan (let's be real here, the democracy of Japan is not at all like that of the West) or Singapore (again, a country that has tolerated an authoritarian party for over 4 decades, yet still a very prosperous and wealthy nation) in order to live a happy and fulfilled life.

Don't get me wrong though, I'm not at all against Western liberal democratic societies. Present and likely future challenges notwithstanding, it has worked well for the West for more or less two centuries now. And if the citizens of the China eventually decide to travel down that path ourselves, then by all means, I won't be one to stand in the way. What I am adamantly against though, is the intentional undermining and fomentation of political unrest by the West in countries like China, or even North Korea. For China, this isn't as much of a problem now as it used to be say back in 1989 (Tiananmen), but clearly this is still a card the US will never fold (ex. support of Uyghur and Tibetan separatists, advocating for FLG cultists, Voice of America), even though its value becomes increasingly dubious.

China is the oldest continuous civilization in the world today, inhabited by the same people, who honor the same culture and reside in the same land. We don't, never did, and never will need to live by the standards of the West. So in fact, it's tough shit for you. Deal with it.

JCCheapEntertainment, Reddit 3 Comments [11/27/2017 2:38:19 AM]
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