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Quote# 134667

In Germany the Greens (loudly) and the SPD (somewhat more silently) reject the further commitment to glyphosate. They can do that without worries because the decision in Brussels would also have been against the German voice for the lengthening. But this common political hypocrisy set aside: The Greens and the SPD are exactly the political parties that are in favor of further immigration, family-yield and unchanged asylum law. Were they in any believable way against the commitment of glyphosate, than they don't only have to fight against the continuous increase of the population number in Germany, but be happy about every reduction of this number.

Because it's easy: The less people consume food, the less the agriculture has to be intensified with chemicals and the less has to be exported, which also represents a big and increasing dependency. Because by both the Greens as well as the SPD ideology ranks below logic. That's why it's in the current political scandal about a power game with shrill green accompanying music, of which however every tone is false. Who rejects glyphosate on good grounds, can't be seriously in favor of open borders and mass immigration. This is not a question of worldview, but of logic.

Original German:
In Deutschland lehnen die Grünen (lautstark) und die SPD (etwas leiser) den weiteren Einsatz von Glyphosat ab. Das können sie auch unbesorgt tun, denn die Entscheidung in Brüssel wäre auch gegen die deutsche Stimme für die Verlängerung ausgefallen. Doch diese übliche politische Heuchelei mal beiseitegelassen: Gerade Grüne und SPD sind doch die Parteien, die für weitere Einwanderung, Familiennachzug und unverändertes Asylrecht eintreten. Wären sie wirklich glaubwürdig gegen den Einsatz von Glyphosat, dann müssten sie nicht nur entschieden gegen die immer weitere Vermehrung der Bevölkerungszahl in Deutschland sein, sondern sich sogar über jede Verminderung dieser Zahl freuen.

Denn es ist ja ganz einfach: Je weniger Menschen Nahrungsmittel verbrauchen, umso weniger muss die Landwirtschaft mit Chemie intensiviert werden und umso weniger muss exportiert werden, was auch eine große und zunehmende Abhängigkeit darstellt. Doch sowohl bei Grünen als auch bei der SPD rangiert Ideologie noch allemal vor Logik. Deshalb geht es in dem aktuellen Politskandal lediglich um ein Machtspielchen mit schriller grüner Begleitmusik, in der aber auch jeder Ton falsch ist. Wer mit guten Gründen Glyphosat ablehnt, der kann nicht ernsthaft für offene Grenzen und Masseneinwanderung sein. Das ist keine Frage der Weltanschauung, sondern der Logik.


Wolfgang Hübner, PI News 9 Comments [11/29/2017 1:56:03 PM]
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Submitted By: hydrolythe

Quote# 134665

The problem with the fall is that folks stopped being holy beings (granted a derivative holiness, but who would claim otherwise?) and became merely moral. The body of death isn’t this Eeeeeevil thing ... it can be a moral thing. Usually is. Indeed, the flesh aping the fruits of the spirit is one of the problems even true Christians (blood bought saints) can have when they try to do “good” in their own strength rather than out of obedience to the Spirit.

Or, as one old salt was to have once asked a young just out of school preacher: “Were you sent or did you just went?” The problem with the body of death is it wants us to obey it, and not the Holy Spirit. And it’ll be a good, religious little body of death if that’s what it takes. Telling the difference between obeying and “look at me” need not be hard ... but remember when Paul wrote that his concern was that the Gospel was proclaimed and not that he always got worked up about who was proclaiming it?

The odd thing to me is that you have reached the point of thinking me ludicrous NOT because I’ve been writing gustily about difficult matters, where there is reasons one might actually have differences and discourse thereafter arise (with no guarantee of any settlement, mind you) but because I have posted about what should be considered low hanging fruit, things beyond contention.

Like the need for homosexuals to repent, that they CAN repent (or else Paul was inaccurate to say and such were some of you), and in fact that they should be told to repent even if it means they fell put upon. To say those things isn’t to ignore sexual immorality in general, but to address a very specific form of sexual immorality that is doubling down on unholy. Nuance is all fine and good. But if, as you say, they’ve heard it all before then it doesn’t hurt them to hear it again. It’s on their heads if they refuse Christ. No one will be thrown into the lake of fire because of what is written in the books but because their name is not found written in the Lamb’s Book of Life. That includes homosexuals who didn’t repent.

What am I to do? Shut up and wave as they merrily pass by? My words ARE weak and useless! I don’t pretend that they are powerful and persuasive! But if I’ve got this talent in my hand I’ve got a choice: either TRY to do business with it (even if that’s just depositing it for the interest gained) where I have a forum or bury it in a handkerchief for later. That’s MY choice and I’m responsible for obeying.

God can make even weak and useless things to bring forth fruit. Good thing too because weak and useless describes His people pretty well. And me very, very well!

So, yep, I’m ludicrous. Actually, I’ve a silly streak that’s a mile wide and not a bit shallow, when it comes to it. What’s your excuse?

Rurudyne, Free Republic 3 Comments [11/29/2017 1:55:06 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134664

I don't know how to send this message to the administrator or whoever's in charge of this page. So I thought I'd post it here. This page is open to all members of the public, isn't that right? Including conservatives who voted for our current President, like myself. I'm really bothered when I come to certain pages and they bash our President like the Billy West Page who used to have the words 'Much Loathed Presidential Candidate Donald Trump'. First of all, he is NOT much loathed because he won by a landslide! (yes, he won by a landslide, no Russians were involved, he is popular in the Midwestern states and a LOT of people in my own town voted for him!) Plus he is not President -elect anymore, he is the President! The fact that I can't go into the Saturday Night Live page either because I get offended by what they say is bad too. Not to mention Alec Baldwin did NOT deserve that Emmy.

Please tell the people editing these pages to watch what they say and type. Some people here LIKE our President and DID vote for him and they have a right to be here and not get insulted or offended!

SamuraiGal, TV Tropes 23 Comments [11/29/2017 1:54:57 PM]
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Submitted By: Daspletosaurus

Quote# 134663

I have edited Wikipedia for a while, and I know for a fact that there are a lot of inaccuracies and problems on it, whether it is vandalism, inaccurate material, POV bias, or out-of-date material. I and many other editors have tried our best to eliminate all of these, but I know that no matter what we do, these problems will remain. I also know that Wikipedia, ultimately, is temporary. Sometime — I don't know when, and don't ask me any details because I cannot know them — Wikipedia will cease to exist. So, all our editing will come to naught, at least it seems.

But I also know that God's Word, the Bible, is the opposite of Wikipedia, at least in this respect. As unpopular it is to believe this in our present culture, I know that the Bible contains absolutely no errors or mistakes — regardless of what topic or genre it has to do with. I also know that God and His Word will remain forever, as the verse here clearly states.

We humans always try to achieve greatness and glory, and I can see that throughout history. There is the Tower of Babel, the Neo-Assyrian Empire, the Neo-Babylonian Empire, Alexander the Great's empire, the Roman Empire, the British Empire, Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, and I can name countless others. There have been many leaders who have tried to achieve greatness — Alexander the Great, Napoleon, Hitler, Stalin, Gaddafi, and many, many more — and ultimately failed.

My point in all this is that all of these were temporary and didn't last, but God, who created all things and controls all history, will remain forever. Whose side will you be on?

1990'sguy, Wikipedia 12 Comments [11/29/2017 1:54:42 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134662

Hmmmmm. The government’s “Just Laws” are forcing evil, irrational behaviors on their culture so they can destroy the minds of little children and hyper-sexualize them so when they read Shakespeare and Milton when the word “marriage” is stated or spouse, or ..... the child will have to “think’ —oh, is he going to marry a man or woman.

This is a destruction of the word “marriage” and a forcing of irrationality and satanism (yes—a religion) on little children so they are as irrational and evil as the Ancient pagan slave cultures where Evil was Good and pederasty was normal. But even the pederasts never legalized “marrying” the little boys because they KNEW that sodomy had NOTHING to do with the term “Marriage”.

Savagesusie, Free Republic 7 Comments [11/29/2017 1:54:15 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134661

Among those who are “justified by faith apart from works” (Romans 3:28) and find themselves in heaven, there will still be judgment. We all won’t be treated the same, for apart from salvation itself, there will be a judgment of what we actually did while we were saved. Some will find themselves in heaven by the grace of God, but the things they did while here on earth will be deemed worthless.

Those who are freely given the foundation of Christ then build upon it, and in that Day of Judgment “each man’s work will become evident…If any man’s work which he has built upon it remains, he shall receive a reward. If any man’s work is burned up, he shall suffer loss, but he himself shall be saved, yet so as through fire” (I Corinthians 3:11-15).

This whole concept of heavenly rewards remains somewhat mysterious even when we consider everything between the covers of our Bibles because much of the language used is probably symbolic. At least I hope so, because I’ve never really wanted a crown, golden or otherwise.

Purged of our jealousy, envy, and every other sin, we will simply be glad for those who receive more of what we will be given, whatever that may be. Made perfect in Christ, we will be absolutely content in our situations, though they may well be very different from one another.

The Biblical images of heaven center on God Himself. At least part of our time will be devoted to simply worshipping, and we will enjoy sweet communion with Him. In Revelation 7:9-10, a multitude of the redeemed offer praise, so we will not be alone with God, and I’m pretty sure that we will we also have fine fellowship with one another.

I keep coming back to an incident when I was a kid that seems to be a preview of judgment for those of us who love Christ, and while it might break down in a few places, I still think it gives a little insight into this life and our rewards in the hereafter.

My father loved baseball, and I tried my best to love it, too, but I never really cared for the game at all. My sport was basketball, which he never played, and, therefore, at least in my own mind, I assumed he didn’t value it nearly as much.

For two seasons, I played baseball, but never was any good. During one game my father attended, I wanted to make him proud, but my abject lack of talent got the best of me. Even though I spent a lot of the game on the bench, I still managed to strike out twice and bungled the few plays I tried to make in right field.

After the game, my father never derided me, but I noticed other kids with their dads, laughing and sharing in their triumphs. Over the events of the game, those fathers and sons had some common ground, a joy they shared when the sons played well.

My dad and I couldn’t enjoy that experience, and I think some of our rewards in heaven will be a depth of fellowship with our Heavenly Father that those who never did much for God simply can’t know.

I am cheered, though, that our Heavenly Father imparts callings and desires for His interests, which are vast. Everyone isn’t supposed to play the same game, so to speak, but each of us has been called to unique arenas of service. Too many of us, though, sit on the bench, which may even be a church pew, and never do much of anything that will delight our Father’s heart.

Instead, let us go play the game of life in the way the Spirit leads us, and let us play it well. It will only be a preview of better blessings to come.

Ray Sikes, Ray Sikes 2 Comments [11/29/2017 1:54:07 PM]
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Quote# 134657

(This isn't a Poe, sadly!)

The Information Presented in the Ascension Glossary reflects the Guardian Perspective of the Ascension Timeline (2012 Timelines and Beyond) intended as support, both energetically and educationally, for the Galactic Families of Humanity. This Spiritual Family has accepted the Guardianship role to support the foundation of Cosmic Citizenship through Unity consciousness as an evolutionary model for this planet and humanity, and this is Earth based advocacy designed for this specific group. There is absolutely no value difference given on the role each being has chosen for its expression.

The Guardian Groups mission directive is rehabilitation of the hologram, repairing its energetic architecture (DNA), embodying the Ascended Human Protoform, supplying informational context on Ascension dynamics and Exopolitic E.T. Agendas and reeducating both human and non-human's to be congruently aligned to the Universal Law of One. Freedom, Fraternity, and the Sovereign Right of All Beings to be a Knower of God Source is protected by the Collective Unity Vow shared among our Universal Guardian Groups.

The Law of One comprises the necessary principles of behavior, practices and belief systems that humanity is required to learn in order to achieve spiritual freedom and sovereignty, by committing to re-educate themselves to expand consciousness into higher frequency realities that allow them to progress into the future GSF Timelines, during the Ascension Cycle.

Lisa Renee, AscensionGlossary 6 Comments [11/29/2017 1:52:41 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134655

The “little people” are lacking in regular church attendance.

They have accepted gay “marriage” and the lifestyle.

They have embraced pot legalization.

(We don’t need one more poison.)

G Larry, Free Republic 13 Comments [11/29/2017 1:52:10 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134654

If you show no results then you try harder until you do get results. Nobody grows a six packs in a day you know and the same training discipline applies here. The truth is you won't be able to understand the energy dynamics in a video unless you have experimented with the spiritual energy yourself, so the legit videos become indistinguishable from the fakes. Science in it's current state runs through capitalist institutions which is unscientific by itself. Funding for research only goes to the studies that garners the most profit or has the highest chance of repeatability so uncertain topics like this are given no priority what so ever. This means many truths are simply ignored because they can be hard to understand or control and only easy to reach studies are done.

There is a very hit or miss mechanic with telekinesis and things won't always go the way you want, but those hits are remarkable none the less. Magic is just yet to be understood science and society always has a habit of being biased towards new technology calling it impossible magic every step of the way. With telekinesis you need to develop a deep spiritual connection with the higher forces but science doesn't care unless you can put it in a bottle which you can then give to soldiers so the cause is lost from the very beginning.

There are so many factors that are needed to be understood when trying to introduce this to other people and the practitioners have to figure all of it out on their own without any scientific funding from any direction. So it remains a secret occult practice because in a lot of cases you can end up damaging yourself if you are not careful with this energy.

utsavman, r/telekinesis  10 Comments [11/29/2017 1:51:38 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134653

Marriage Survey 39% - NO....61% - Yes

We all knew from the outset that the media were going to support minority rights and the LBGTI political agenda.

We watched as Qantas, Councils, Paypal and GetUp poured incredible resources into YES campaign. Everyone with a mobile were contacted, illegally.

We were dismayed when Turnbull introduced protective legislation for YES campaigners only and then witnessed countless innocent Australians being vilified, punched and their property destroyed by the protected YES, for taking their stand with existing legislation.

We were shocked when the Australian Electoral Commission had Facebook close down our page the weekend of the marches. This is after the many news posts that Facebook refused to allow out, because they showed the YES campaign in a bad light.

Our leader, a YES supporter Malcolm Turnbull is crooning that this was a fair campaign and a massive win. Our only consolation is that more people support the NO vote than support his current leadership.

Despite all of this heaviness we feel—a massive thank you to all the page supporters, sponsors and helpers—we all did an awesome job against this backdrop to get the information out.

We also know that YES vote is going to have far reaching consequences because we informed ourselves and wanted to protect our children and the family.

Many voted YES before they understood the ramifications and saw the behaviour of the Left— and regretted it later.

This is a non-binding survey. The issue is not over. While Turnbull wants to initiate legislation as fast a possible, we must continue our fight to protect our children, our rights, and our religious freedoms. We have just suffered a set back. The issue is not yet over.

Lewis Freeman-Harrison
Campaign Manager
Vote No Australia

Lewis Freeman-Harrison, Vote NO Australia - Marriage Plebiscite 11 Comments [11/29/2017 9:44:43 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 134650

The argument: your stupid is a bit boring, not very convincing, yet it seems thats all ballers got.

ExJW FlatEarther, YouTube 17 Comments [11/29/2017 7:27:33 AM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 134649

sugarndgahwa:
ex Muslim cults should stop victimizing themselves


el7alromancy:
Muslims: *killing harassing abusing shunning ex muslims*
Muslims: *practicing a misogynistic homophobic pedophilia apologist islam*
Muslims: *enforce islamic law on everyone when they’re the majority and cry about religion freedom when they’re the minority*
Ex muslims: this is not right :/
Muslims: ISLAMOPHOBIC RACIST BIGOT!!!!! STOP PLAYING THE VICTIM!!! IM THE REAL VICTIM OF YOUR VIOLENT ISLAMOPHOBIA!!!!!


sugarndgahwa:
lol again with victimizing yourself, you shit on people’s religion but you expect people to respect your beliefs lol.


el7alromancy:
I don’t want your respect dipshit I just don’t wanna be abused for leaving islam and I don’t want your filthy religion shoved down my throat but that’s too much to ask, isn’t it?

If you want people to respect your beliefs then have beliefs that are worthy of respect. Maybe start with condemning pedophilia? Just the bare minimum of common decency would be great.



sugarndgahwa:
Lmao if you left the religion and don’t wanna be abused for it, why come back and talk shit about it?



el7alromancy:
I want you all to know that muslims aren’t oblivious to apostasy laws. The overwhelming majority supports these laws. This asshole right here knows that renouncing islam is a crime in most muslim countries. She knows that according to islamic law I should be executed. She knows that if I remove my hijab I would be shunned and abused by my peace loving muslim community. She knows that in a muslim country I have no option but follow the misogynistic marriage, divorce, inheritance, child custody laws. She knows that if I were gay, i would be diowned at best or excuted isis style at worst. She knows all that and she doesn’t care. She’s just mad that ex muslims are speaking the ugly truth. The truth makes her uncomfortable.

She’s demanding our silence so she can go back to pretending we don’t exist.



norcani:
“moderate” muslims are fucking gross, see how she basically said we deserve to be abused


sugarndgahwa, Tumblr 3 Comments [11/29/2017 7:26:45 AM]
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Quote# 134644



comrade-lecter, tumblr 9 Comments [11/29/2017 7:24:32 AM]
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Quote# 134611

Mick congratulates himself at aggravating Lady Checkmate's imaginary 1000-headed troll (presumably many of us):

Lady Checkmate:
Hi Mick! How are you?

Mick Williams:
Keeping busy. I forgot to mention I have a cartoon about a certain person we were having a lot of fun with, which you might be able to use. We'll try it here if you like. Guaranteed to set troll hair on fire.


Lady Checkmate:
LOLOLOL...I LIKE IT! And, it's spot on.
The poor guy is literally in a constant state of "triggered". He doesn't have an off switch. FYI - you perfectly captured one of has psychotic breakdowns.

Mick Williams:
You can copy the image and use it to reply to each puppet you ban. Gotta get my beauty rest now. See you at the next Serling post.

Mick Williams, Disqus - News Network 21 Comments [11/29/2017 7:24:04 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 134646

Hey weev! For now I have two questions.

1. Are there moments where you think that most of the Western hemisphere's ills are a reflection of what the Krauts would call the "Zeitgeist" rather than the result of one single nefarious plot?


No, this has all been inflicted upon us by scheming hooknoses.

...

To put it differently: How likely, without a total disintegration of the current society, do you think things would go back to 'the good old days' on their own if Jews were removed from all influential positions of power? Or are people in current year +2 willing to continue with the current course of society without outside "motivation" since they're too comfortable with or apathetic towards the current state of affairs?


To put this in perspective, Denmark did a bunch of ad campaigns in 2015 encouraging women to have children and it caused a baby boom, and that's a much weightier and more consequential decision than so much of the undesirable behavior that I would like to see ended. Give me control of a nation for a year and you'll have a bunch of healthy families and redeeming social standards at the end of it. Would they do it entirely of their own volition with no guidance? No, there needs to be a proper government to tell them what to do.

[Question on who his favorite Roman emperor, below is a followup]

And what would you do if on the first date the woman answers the question with Constantine the Great?


The answer to this question should be obvious: never will I take the thoughts of any woman into account for any course of action. I suppose it is slightly commendable as far as women go that she knows a little bit about Rome, but this is not really a great answer. Regardless, as a woman, she deserves rape.

weev, Kiwi Farms 12 Comments [11/28/2017 11:24:48 PM]
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Quote# 134643

What have Jews and black people done to you personally?

Other than send him to federal prison on bunk charges?


Other than that, destroy the institution of the family by filling civilization with a wide variety of sexual degeneracy from porn (pornography industry is entirely Jewish and they brag about it) to Tinder (made by two Jews, of course) to tricking kids into getting on HRT (tranny industry is Jewish doctors and Jewish PR firms acting in concert) to feminism (they brag about this too).

Multiracial society and desegregation has lead to lower trust and less cohesive civilizations across the board. It has destroyed the commons completely.

I hated Jews far before they put me in prison on false charges for telling the truth about them. The reality is that destroying the fabric of my civilization and turning it into a clown world full of tranny kids, nigger criminals, stagnating per capita wealth, morally bankrupt whores, and waning essential liberties like freedom of speech and free association are doing something to me personally. They are depriving me of the right to live in the civilization that my forefathers bled and suffered to give me. I'd write a $200k check right now to be able to live in some "backward" civilization that was like the early 19th century or anything that came before it, before the Jews wrecked all the white world by destroying the fabric of it all with feminist ideologies.

I just want to live in a nice, simple, white country where everything is like it was for the vast majority of human civilization. They have stolen that from me, because everywhere there is a television is absolutely ruined and on a spiritual downward path. Thanks, Jews.

weev, Kiwi Farms 21 Comments [11/28/2017 11:22:44 PM]
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Quote# 134642

David: staying away from OT, since we mostly ignore all it says because it was pre-jesus, i stick to NT where it is just there in the pages. I have a third stance: i also think the Word says it,s not ok. i do not have a problem with gays or their community. I believe God loves them and wills for them to go to heaven. I am friendly to gays and their comminity, i believe i am to love others no matter what. I think if someone who considers himself gay wants to follow jesus, they will face these verses and will either choose to ignore them or not, but its all a process. There are verses i am in the process of living, and that doesnt make me un-christian, but im not trying to change their meaning either. Maybe i dont feel like forgiving someone who really did something bad to me, and the word says i must, but i dont do it… Maybe one day, ill grow in my walk with him enough to finally forgive, but i will not change the verse to fit me, i should change to fit it.

Christopher: Except the word has changed over the centuries. Be have been altering and adding, subtracting to the text since the Bible was first formed. Anyone who has actually studied it and its history will know this and that no modern translation of the Bible is perfect nor 100% accurate.

David: I think the text we have today is reliable enough. But for the sake of dialogue, I would offer this thought: So the text we have today, in this matter, is either accurate or not accurate. If it is accurate, the warning is that (as well as many other offenses), homosexuality can derive in eternal death. Anyone who chooses to believe the text is not accurate, as you argue, would then have to be willing to run the risk of not partaking of life eternal. What if that person gets to heaven and in the judgement they find out the text was accurate? So for example, imagine you’re about to get a blood transfusion. The blood may or may not be contaminated with a deadly virus or bacteria. Would you take the risk?
If not, then why take the risk with your eternity?

Christopher: The fact that there are different translations that said different things over the centuries shows that the texts we have today are not accurate. No modern translation is perfect and there whave been things that have been added to the scriptures. One of which is the doctrine of Eternal Hell and condemnations of homosexuality; neither are in the original langauges, in fact gay marriage was in practice in the early church, notably with two martyrs Sergius and Barcchus. I have seen Orthodox Jews and experts on the original Greek and Hebrew that affirm that the modern translations against homosexuality are inaccurate, backed up by Orthodox scholarship (Hope Remains Online is the place to start and is quick to answer further questions on its contact forms). These guys are experts in the languages with decades of study under their belt. Actually studying the history of the Bible you’d see this, it’s not hard to look up nor are the imperfections of every mordern Bible plain to see. The Bible is as in error as eveything on this earth, especially as far as translations go.

David: Sadly, again, there will be another set of “scholars” and “experts” on the matter who would contradict what you just said. It will be up to you and me to choose who to believe, but surely a group is correct and the other one is wrong. I believe the description in Romans 1 is quite clear. You can find a quote online saying on the matter: Most scholars hold that Paul had two passages of the Book of Leviticus, 18:22 and 20:13, in mind when he used the word ??se?????ta?, … with most commentators and translators interpreting it as a reference to male same-sex intercourse. (note “most”) — so again, you can choose to believe either group, yet what is at stake is too important.
I think in this matter, I’d be looking for certainty, since we are talking about a very serious issue – again, the penalty for such actions could be eternal death (note I did not say Hell…). It is ultimately up to you and whoever reads the texts we have today to decide to take the risk to accept or reject the classical interpretation on this matter.
I believe an honest heart, a humble heart can hear from God in the matter beyond what other people say and what scriptures say. So I would just pray for a God confirmation on the matter. That way, the moment I’d face Him I’d know my conscience is clear from any sin on the matter. Jesus said to deny ourselves and follow Him. Every area where the text says we should deny ourselves, we should. Being honest is not always easy, being faithful to your spouse is not always easy, being loving to all is not always easy… and we are all in a process. Eventually sexuality should not keep us away from God. It’s not that important. It eventually fades. People should not exchange an eternity without God for a few years of exercising sexuality. Sex is a temporary thing. And again, I say this of the whole list – fornication, adultery, “immorality” (whatever that one means), and yes, homosexuality.

David, Chris Kratzer 9 Comments [11/28/2017 11:22:22 PM]
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Quote# 134641

President Trump Touts His Accomplishments in Thanksgiving Message

President Trump wished Americans a happy Thanksgiving early Thursday morning on Twitter, but didn’t waste any time before boasting about his track record in the same tweet.

“HAPPY THANKSGIVING, your Country is starting to do really well,” he wrote. “Jobs coming back, highest Stock Market EVER, Military getting really strong, we will build the WALL, V.A. taking care of our Vets, great Supreme Court Justice, RECORD CUT IN REGS, lowest unemployment in 17 years….!”

He followed up with another tweet: “MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”

Four hours later, Trump posted what appeared to be an official White House video to Twitter. In it, he recited the history of the holiday and wished Americans a “blessed and joyful Thanksgiving.”

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/933720598383026176

He also made reference to challenges America has faced in the last year. “We pray for the Americans impacted by the devastating storms and wildfires that struck our nation. We mourn for the victims of the horrible shootings that stole so many innocent lives. And we thank God for the police, firefighters, paramedics and rescue workers who put themselves in harm’s way to save others.”

At the end of the video, he reiterated some of the claims of his earlier tweet. “Our country is doing very well,” he said. “Our stock market has hit a new all-time high, unemployment is at a 17-year low, we’ve created $5.5 trillion worth of values. We are doing something very special. People are feeling it. The enthusiasm in this country has never been higher. We are very very happy on this Thanksgiving day.”

Donald Trump, Time 15 Comments [11/28/2017 11:22:12 PM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 134637

Steven, Your story above reminded me of a similar case that surfaced in a junior school a few hundred yards from me. All the staff at the school have been told that after the holidays a little boy will be returning as a little girl and must be treated as such.

In this country an adult is not seen as such until he/she/it is 16 or 18, that is the age that such a life changing thing should be entertained, if at all ! A child has no right to make such a choice when their world/life overview is not as complete as it would be with more years under the belt/

I can hear the SJWs saying 'but that would be many more years under the belt of misery', but regrets voiced are not unusual in the sex change community. I am reminded of the child antiques dealer that had made his first million by his teens. He was quite a strange person but was held up as a wonder by the media. Later the same lad had resurfaced as a woman, a woman that had had the full works with all the surgery required.

Again the media had a field day holding this pseudo-woman as a credit for gender realisation, the person was then subject to the void of non-stories thereafter. Perusing the TV news some years later I came upon a short news story whereby the news presenter said the child entrepreneur and sex-change role model had committed suicide, I believe that it was briefly mentioned that his/her/its choice of gender change may have had some bearing on his/her/its choice to commit suicide.

I've heard politicos say 1 knife crime murder is 1 to many, is not one sex change that prompts the later choice of suicide one sex change to many and therefore should it not be seen as a potential hazard in its surgical implementation ! To put it in shorter terms, if it's born with an undercarriage then it's an airplane !

Eassex cempa, Anglo-Saxon Foundation  7 Comments [11/28/2017 11:16:43 PM]
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And if we really really really want to get serious about "not exploiting young people" ... let's talk about how SCIENTISTS are poisoning young minds in public schools with "fake science" about how the earth is millions of years old and your uncle is a monkey and we all evolved from pond scum and so on. Oh and how about vaccinations? Shooting up babies with a scary cocktail of god-knows-what and LYING to parents telling them it's good for their kids.

Yeah ... let's talk about exploiting people, shall we?

Dave Hawkins, Talk Rational 8 Comments [11/28/2017 11:15:48 PM]
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First time I've seen this talked about. It hits the right notes. Being incel inherently isn't the only thing that I'm mad about. Its about how people blame us for our problems. A lot of people on this sub are just downright ugly (INB5 platitudes about ugly people also being in happy relationships) and/or have a spectrum of mental disorders. Some are hit really really hard and have both.

Normies don't understand that what incels want is to feel valued on the sexual marketplace. To feel like they are worthy and desirable as sexual creatures. Sex is not the end goal, it is just a symptom of being valuable and desirable as a sexual creature. I haven't escortceled yet, but I might. It might be pleasurable physically for the time being, but it will still be incomplete.

I feel like romantic relationships are the goldilocks zone of relationships. Friendships can give you comfort minus physical touch and intimacy. Escorts can give you intimacy but they won't care for you. An SO will care for you when you need it and help you out and root for you when you need it almost like a friend. Normies don't just get that. They are too egoistic, self-centered to hear other people out who are hurting and realize the reality of things.

truecel23, Incels.me 11 Comments [11/28/2017 2:17:28 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

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Dr. Nixon Downplays the Perverseness of Homosexuality

Again, Dr. Nixon states on page 21:

These are perfectly “normal” people who have been created by God for unique purposes.

SOURCE: Dr. David J. Nixon with R. G. Hamm, “BORN THAT WAY AFTER ALL,” P. 21; ©2016, BORN THAT WAY MINISTRIES, INC.; ISBN: 978-1-942559-05-4.


I've already shared with you details from Dr. Nixon's book about a young man named Sam. When Sam gets to college, he is approached soon thereafter by a homosexual classmate, who says that he and some other sodomite boys think Sam is queer too. The next thing you know, that queer student is literally sodomizing Sam. Listen to what Johnny Nixon writes about this wicked, perverse, vile, young male dog:

It would be easy for us to think that the motives of the young man who approached Sam were in some way sinister. I prefer to think that he was probably another Sam, just a bit further down the road.

SOURCE: Dr. David J. Nixon with R. G. Hamm, “BORN THAT WAY AFTER ALL,” P. 16; ©2016, BORN THAT WAY MINISTRIES, INC.; ISBN: 978-1-942559-05-4.


Folks, the Holy Bible literally calls sodomites “dogs.” Deuteronomy 23:17, “There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel. Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a dog, into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both these are abomination unto the LORD thy God.” A dog will do the most disgusting things to other dogs, and to itself. They are dirty animals. Dogs have no regard for morality, because they are animals. When people live without morals, they are acting just like filthy dogs.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 7 Comments [11/28/2017 2:15:14 PM]
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I believe that every person believes in God. I know I did even when I had convinced myself that I was an atheist. Atheists like to debate because they feel like if they can win a debate, their stance HAS to be true (that there is no God) and in the end, they are just trying to convince themselves of what they, deep down, know is untrue.

Derrick Hood, Facebook 17 Comments [11/28/2017 2:14:05 PM]
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An atheist making typical excuses for the existence of atheist churches. Yes there are atheist churches, even mega churches (1000 plus members). And yes they do act like regular churches. And guess what they preach behind the pulpit? Yes you got it. The tenets of atheism, Science and evolution. Yep that's the gospel they preach. I'll leave examples below this post in the comments area for those who do not believe me.

Evolution is a Lie, Facebook 12 Comments [11/28/2017 2:13:58 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

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When did the name Pocahontas become a racial slur???

Silly Liberals. There is no negative connotation associated with the name.

If she falsely claimed military rank, he might call her Gen Patton. It’s about her fraud - but Dems make everytning about race.

SL +++, Twitter 14 Comments [11/28/2017 2:13:51 PM]
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