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Quote# 106965

Any female aversion to beards is yet another extension of their enormous hypocrisy concernin cleanliness. The sheer gall of the female that hates beards, hair and foreskins when she herself is a walkin cesspool of inner plumbin that is an "ecosystem", needs regular checkups, regularly gets infected and fumes out fish odors that would make a blue whale blush - well the best defense is a good offence. Men are naturally cleaner and more intelligent than females, and thus the game for them is to convince men into mutilatin their baby boys into circumstumped-unmales and shavin off their God-given implements of higher intelligence on the head - the hair and beard. Only then will the world be safe for female domination.

Uncle Jeebers, Knights of Banjo Hollow 0 Comments [3/27/2015 3:11:39 AM]
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Quote# 106742

The homosexual invasion of the churches is everywhere. Every day that goes by we find another so-called Christian leader or pastor declaring that he is going to embrace the homosexual agenda and jettison the clear teachings of Scripture.

Of course they won't put it in those terms, but that is exactly what they are doing. They are rebelling against God, and effectively spitting in his face as they declare that they know better than God in regards to all things sexual. What God calls an abomination and depravity they call a "gift of God" and something to celebrate and flaunt.

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When you call God a liar on the issue of homosexuality, and claim that you are being more loving, more compassionate, and more fair by embracing the sin of sodomy and sodomite marriage, then you have clearly declared your hand here. You have rebelled against God and the clear teachings of Scripture.

Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch 0 Comments [3/27/2015 3:09:15 AM]
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Quote# 106397

The "Patriarchy" is a God given right. The "Patriarchy" reflects the Trinity: Father, Son, Holy Spirit. All evil/false religions are based on a Matriarchy. Liberalism is Satanism. Satan wants to do everything in reverse that God did. A matriarchy is the opposite of patriarchy. Through Liberalism, there has been a slow progressive push to allow for women to have special rights when it comes to anything in society. If they want to pop out 3 bastard kids and have it paid for by man, then they can do that. If they want to kill an unborn kid, then they can make that call and not the father. If they want to have a career and have a big $100K+ job in the corporate world, then affirmative action will make it so. If they want to have an endless string of boyfriends and endless string of sex partners, social engineering will make it so by "normalizing" such behavior through such nationally broadcasted 'sex in the city' types of mainstream media movies and shows and music. If a woman wants to file for divorce because she wants to go have sex with more men, then 'no fault' divorce makes it as easy as 1-2-3. And again, mainstream media will normalize divorce and even celebrate it to encourage such abominations against God.

The more independent men are, then smaller the government. The more 'independent' women are, the bigger the government. Women have NOT achieved any of this on their own. It took global elites to change and establish laws in society backed by military / police force and a court system to ensure women are given special rights. Women seem to think they did this all on their own and are truly "beating men" in life as if that's how it should have been all along.

In a nutshell, the story of Adam and Even has more truth than most realize. The "Eve's" of today are willingly believing the social engineering lies fed to them through mainstream media, and then taking the apple essentially selling mankind out to the overall end game goal of global enslavement.

Women have not achieved anything. If I were a global elite, I could finance politicians to establish laws that would allow for dogs to have special rights in society beyond man. Could the dogs achieve this on their own? Of course not. To collect welfare and have mankind pay for a single mom's kids is theft no different than stealing a car. When that single mom is standing before God one day at the day of judgement, she'll be told go stand next to the rest of the thieves. She won't understand why until she finally realizes that by accepting welfare money that she has participated in theft and she is no better than any thief that robbed a liquor store.

Ghostrider, Return of Kings 0 Comments [3/27/2015 3:07:08 AM]
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Quote# 106380

Let's assume for a moment that we don't choose what we desire, even in normal situations. I don't recall wanting to like accordian music, for instance, but I am cursed with that socially awkward taste (still, Hendrix sounds good covered by an accordian band, honest). If this is the case, then giving someone an additional desire isn't really about taking away their right to rational self-determination, since this right doesn't include choosing what one wants. Such choices are effectively arbitrary to begin with, so what harm is there in having someone else cause such a desire in you?

So, let us suppose that causing someone to love me is not obviously causing them to have a worse life. If this is the case, what harm has been done in giving her a love potion without her informed consent? I'm especially interested in an answer that is consistent with the instrumental presumption: we do not deliberate over our final ends. Can an instrumentalist nonetheless claim that it is wrong to sneak someone a love potion? On what grounds?

phiwum, International Skeptics 0 Comments [3/27/2015 3:06:45 AM]
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Quote# 106265

(Partial transcript from a conversation between Idaho governor and his staff):

Look, I hear that… David and I debate this… but the big difference between the rich and the poor… it’s genetics. Poor people are genetically inferior, but that’s okay… [unintelligible] Don’t jump my roost about it… I didn’t make up that fact. It’s going to have to be okay, because it’s not like we can kill them [laughter from Otter]. But we need to stop spending… you know, spending so much on the inferior… It’s going to raise taxes, hurt economy, if we don’t. [unintelligible] Poor people deserve to live. I’m not heartless… [unintelligible] strict guidelines. Thank God we have religion… [unintelligible] retail… The lesser obviously can’t take care of themselves without it. I represent the genetically inferior… [laughter from Otter]. I’m bringing them jobs… the call centers… The Kuna meat packing plant… [laughter from Otter]. Inferior need to work harder now and realize that big government isn’t here in Idaho. We have to make cuts and John and Stewy back me on this…[unintelligible] the people won’t be able to compete with the superior, but let’s keep the message that they can and everything will work fine.”

Butch Otter, City World News 0 Comments [3/27/2015 3:06:01 AM]
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Quote# 105598

[This is part of an "open letter to Hemant Mehta," a public high school math teacher has been targeted by Laurie Higgins and the Illinois Family Institute for his statements on his blog.]

I have never in any context suggested that you should be fired or that you should resign [...] [M]y goal is to provide information to District 204 parents - particularly IFI readers - about the nature of the ideas you express and endorse on your public blog so that they can make informed decisions as to whether they want their children to spend a school year under your tutelage.

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You fail to acknowledge a central point that I addressed in my two articles, which is that many teens are unduly influenced by emotion and the cult of personality, and therefore are predisposed to look favorably on the ideas of teachers whom they find cool or charismatic or funny or kind or anti-tradition. Adolescence is also a time of rebellion which is why many teens are attracted to rebellions, anti-establishment people and ideas.

If students search your name and come upon your blog, they will be exposed to your endorsement and promotion of ideas that some parents may find deeply troubling. If students have you as their teacher, like you, and develop a relationship with you - as happens often in high school - they will be more likely to look favorably on and be influenced by your ideas than those students who have little or no personal connection to you. This is the reason that many parents care deeply about role models.

It's the reason there were some recent stories about parents being upset that a high school cheerleading coach posed in her private life for Playboy magazine, and why some parents would not want their children in the class of a teacher who in their free time on a public forum promotes racist views or denies the historicity of the Holocaust.

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If you cannot produce any proof from my writing to support your claim that I am "going after" your job, please retract that statement.

Laurie Higgins, Illinois Family Institute 9 Comments [3/26/2015 2:25:30 PM]
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Quote# 105572

With global and national power elites, the 'changing of guard' occurs like clockwork with each revolution of the planets it seems. Old bureaucrats out and in with a new crop of 'crats'.

It has been at least as long as the turn of the nearest greater star system since the guard changed gender and mankind fell under absolute 'bitch rule'. Many changes in groups of MEN ruling, but not recently have we seen a landslide of women grabbing clubs and wagering for a mad power grab. Of record, acient Egypt was the last to fall under severe bitch rule with the priestess judges. An era of bitch rule in a technological age could last longer than a lifetime before it is exhausted and collapses.

Gender cuts across all lines - racial, religious, political, cultural - it is a vector that divides every other category. Every pie graph with which you can categorize humans into separate groups is skewered through the middle like a shishkabob when you factor in gender.

Under 'bitch rule', women donning the robes of power and seizing the 'guard' is the final stage of arrested development for humanity. I've personally experienced and seen women in action hundreds if not thousands of times. Should they be allowed to rule? I will testify HELL NO.

Picture if you will the laughable Darwinian cartoon depicting the drawings of the chimpanzee gradually becoming upright and finally there stands a European man in a suit with briefcase. (and it is undoubtably a cartoon that must have spawned such theory). Then imagine reversing the diagram. Begin with a picture of a patriarchal family, tribe or klan, and devolve it to its most failed state of dysfunction. The picture of the rock bottom gutter for humanity would be a picture of a large burly muscular female holding a whip over a castrated male.

No system of culture or law can survive and remain consistent with the right brain deciding all matters on a whim and a monthly bout of complete psychosis. Our civilizations would never get off the ground. Rome would have been like an etch a sketch tablet. Its foundations shaken and erased monthly. Rome would have NEVER BEEN in other words. No civilization could ever arise until man dominated woman. No matter how much trading the baton from one monthly bedridden damsel to another fresh femme runner, the overriding downward flush would quickly sweep humans under the rug.

This goes for all races - We must all get back control of our women or else we are all looking at entering a long dark age of animal like baby eating barbarism.

kramw, Return of Kings 15 Comments [3/26/2015 2:25:12 PM]
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Quote# 107384

Question: "Why is the idea of eternal damnation so repulsive to many people?"

Answer: In the shifting winds of modern cultures, the idea of everlasting torment and damnation is difficult for many people to grasp. Why is this? The Bible makes it clear that hell is a literal place. Christ spoke more about hell than He did of heaven. Not only Satan and his minions will be punished there, everyone who rejects Jesus Christ will spend eternity right along with them. A desire to reject or revise the doctrine of hell will not mitigate its flames or make the place go away. Still, the idea of eternal damnation is spurned by many, and here are some reasons for it:

The influence of contemporary thought. In this postmodern era, many go to great lengths to assure no one is offended, and the biblical doctrine of hell is considered offensive. It is too harsh, too old-fashioned, too insensitive. The wisdom of this world is focused on this life, with no thought of the life to come.

Fear. Never-ending, conscious punishment devoid of any hope is indeed a frightening prospect. Many people would rather ignore the source of fear than face it and deal with it biblically. The fact is, hell should be frightening, considering it is the place of judgment originally created for the devil and his angels (Matthew 25:41).

A flawed view of God’s love. Many who reject the idea of eternal damnation do so because they find it difficult to believe that a loving God could banish people to a place as horrific as hell for all eternity. However, God’s love does not negate His justice, His righteousness, or His holiness. Neither does His justice negate His love. In fact, God’s love has provided the way to escape His wrath: the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross (John 3:16-18).

A downplaying of sin. Some find it shockingly unfair that the recompense for a mere lifetime of sinning should be an eternal punishment. Others reject the idea of hell because, in their minds, sin isn’t all that bad. Certainly not bad enough to warrant eternal torture. Of course, it is usually our own sin that we downplay; other people might deserve hell—murderers and the like. This attitude reveals a misunderstanding of the universally heinous nature of sin. The problem is an insistence on our own basic goodness, which precludes thoughts of a fiery judgment and denies the truth of Romans 3:10 (“There is no one righteous, not even one”). The egregiousness of iniquity compelled Christ to the cross. God hated sin to death.

Aberrant theories. Another reason people reject the concept of eternal damnation is that they have been taught alternative theories. One such theory is universalism, which says that everyone will eventually make it to heaven. Another theory is annihilationism, in which the existence of hell is acknowledged, but its eternal nature is denied. Annihilationists believe that those who end up in hell will eventually die and cease to exist (i.e., they will be annihilated). This theory simply makes hell a temporary punishment. Both these theories are presented as viable options to the biblical teaching on hell; however, both make the mistake of placing human opinion over divine revelation.

Incomplete teaching. Many contemporary pastors who do believe in the doctrine of hell consider it simply too delicate a subject to preach on. This further contributes to the modern denial of hell. Congregants in churches where hell is not preached are ignorant of what the Bible says on the subject and are prime candidates for deception on the issue. A pastor’s responsibility is “to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints” (Jude 1:3), not pick and choose what parts of the Bible to leave out.

Satan’s ploys. Satan’s first lie was a denial of judgment. In the Garden of Eden, the serpent told Eve, “You will not surely die” (Genesis 3:4). It is still one of Satan’s main tactics. “The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers” (2 Corinthians 4:4), and the blindness he produces includes a denial of God’s holy decrees. Convince the unsaved that there is no judgment, and they can “eat, drink and be merry” with no care for the future.

If we understand the nature of our Creator, we should have no difficulty understanding the concept of hell. “[God] is the Rock, His works are perfect, and all His ways are just. A faithful God who does no wrong, upright and just is He” (Deuteronomy 32:4, emphasis added). His desire is that no one perish but that all come to repentance (2 Peter 3:9).

To contradict the Bible’s teaching on hell is to say, essentially, “If I were God, I would not make hell like that.” The problem with such a mindset is its inherent pride—it smugly suggests that we can improve on God’s plan. However, we are not wiser than God; we are not more loving or more just. Rejecting or revising the biblical doctrine of hell carries a sad irony, which one writer put this way: “The only result of attempts, however well meaning, to air-condition hell is to assure that more and more people wind up there.”

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/eternal-damnation.html#ixzz3VMhetZD8


Got Questions Ministries, Got Questions 37 Comments [3/26/2015 3:20:11 AM]
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Quote# 107383

No sin is greater than the other.
But to say what is sin is okay.... now what kind of deception is that. There is no national campeign that yells out any other sin but same sex relations.
Do we have a fornication pride week? Parade? Do fornicators encourage teens that its okay to explore heterosexual relations, its moral and nobody should judge you? Nope.

See, we know its wrong, we do wrong anyways, if someone don't like it, oh well. We don't cry out in flamboyant drama for attention parading our confusion through downtown.
Just a thought.

Honestly, most of us don't care if you're gay, we don't care to know either.
Sure, your people are outcasts, me, personally, I'm a three time violent felon. I'm an outcast too, but I don't advertise my prison number. I don't brag about any of my wrong, or plain crazy decisions.
I just be me, and respect life. Free of suckers and their dysfunction.

Ill bet we can find 2,000,000 people who know same sex marriage is immoral, Facebook 33 Comments [3/26/2015 3:19:56 AM]
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Quote# 107378

On Friday, “Trunews” host Rick Wiles aired a speech that Phil Robertson of Duck Dynasty delivered at the Vero Beach Prayer Breakfast earlier that day, in which Robertson offered gruesome details about how an atheist father would react to watching intruders behead his wife and rape and kill his two daughters while they also cut off his penis .... which would supposedly somehow prove a point about following God’s laws.

“I’ll make a bet with you,” Robertson said. “Two guys break into an atheist’s home. He has a little atheist wife and two little atheist daughters. Two guys break into his home and tie him up in a chair and gag him. And then they take his two daughters in front of him and rape both of them and then shoot them and they take his wife and then decapitate her head off in front of him. And then they can look at him and say, ‘Isn’t it great that I don’t have to worry about being judged? Isn’t it great that there’s nothing wrong with this? There’s no right or wrong, now is it dude?’”

Robertson kept going: “Then you take a sharp knife and take his manhood and hold it in front of him and say, ‘Wouldn’t it be something if this [sic] was something wrong with this? But you’re the one who says there is no God, there’s no right, there’s no wrong, so we’re just having fun. We’re sick in the head, have a nice day.’”

“If it happened to them,” Robertson continued, “they probably would say, ‘something about this just ain’t right.”

Phil Robertson, Right Wing Watch 44 Comments [3/26/2015 3:06:56 AM]
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Quote# 107374

the civil rights movement, womens' movement, and the hippies of the late '60s and early '70s were a product of communist subversion. none of them were actually about helping people. they purpose was to weaken the USA. and it worked.

it's not the baby boomers' fault for believing. they sincerely wanted to help people. after realizing that they were the victims of those communist scams, i guess that they just got greedy (1980s - present). they learned political correctness from the communists. so they are greedier than ever. but they put on a show of liberalism.

B.wagner, Phillymag 19 Comments [3/26/2015 3:05:54 AM]
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Quote# 107373

Commenting on an article posted entitled "10-year-old boy claims reincarnation" and replying to another member who posited "I'd there are two possibilities -- either demonic influences or fraud.":

My guess it is demonic influences over the children.

Many children have stated that small children have come to visit them as ghosts.

One little boy said the little girl that he sees has glowing green eyes and has claws that scratch his dad.

The dad was pushed down the stairs too.

That isn't a sweet little lost ghost child....... it is a demon that is presenting itself as a child in order to TAKE OVER or influence the living child.

The bible is clear.....it says that we die ONCE and then we are judged.

Hebrews 9:27 Just as people are destined to die once, and after that to face judgment

Sandy

dlo_3us2001, Realabortiondebate 15 Comments [3/26/2015 3:05:13 AM]
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Quote# 107371

Never forget Nero....he started out sane and did some good things in the beginning...until he got into homosexuality, married his SLAVE BOY, killed is own mother, killed other random people on the streets and then turned depraved in the mind.

Is this the kind of authority and leadership we want for this country? Is this the kind of society we want? Is fallen Rome the kind of country we want our country to turn into when we approve of homosexuality?

Homosexuality is doomed for failure, just like Nero and Rome was when all the men were sleeping with slave boys.

Romans 1:28

Sandy

dlo_3us2001, Realabortiondebate 23 Comments [3/26/2015 3:04:43 AM]
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Quote# 107363

When the subject of Gay Marriage comes up, how are Christians doing at communicating the harm to society with the secular world? Do we have logical reasons to present without being perceived as being "Bible-thumping"?

Here are 20 reasons which may help communicate to our secular friends that Gay Marriage is not only a moral issue for Christians, but a societal ill. All but a few of these reasons are secular rather than religious:

1. The whole fabric of gay rights disappears with this fact: There is no scientific evidence that people are born gay, and much evidence exists that proves the opposite. People leave the homosexual lifestyle and desire all the time. (See http://www.faithfacts.org/christ-and-the-culture/gay-rights#born.)

2. Marriage is the fundamental building block of all human civilization, and has been across cultural and religious lines for 5000+ years. By encouraging the norms of marriage—monogamy, sexual exclusivity, and permanence—the state strengthens civil society. Society as a whole, not merely any given set of spouses, benefits from marriage. This is because traditional marriage helps to channel procreative love into a stable institution that provides for the orderly bearing and rearing of the next generation.

3. Contrary to the liberal and libertarian viewpoint, marriage is not merely an institution for the convenience of adults. It is about the rights of children. Marriage is society’s least restrictive means of ensuring the well-being of children. Every child has the right to a mom and a dad whenever possible. Numerous studies show that children do best with two biological parents. Here is just one study: Two Biological Parents.

4. Marriage benefits everyone because separating the bearing and rearing of children from marriage burdens innocent bystanders: not just children, but the whole community. History shows that no society long survives after a change that hurts the sanctity of marriage between one man and one woman.

5. Law cannot be divorced from reality—from nature. The two sexes are complementary, not undifferentiated. This is a fact of nature, thus given by God. No government has the right to alter what is true by nature. (See America’s Declaration of Independence.)

6. Redefining marriage would diminish the social pressures and incentives for husbands to remain with their wives and BIOLOGICAL children, and for men and women to marry before having children.

7. The results of redefining marriage—parenting by single parents, divorced parents, remarried parents, cohabiting couples, and fragmented families of any kind—are demonstrably worse for children. According to the best available sociological evidence, children fare best on virtually every examined indicator when reared by their wedded biological parents. Studies that control for other factors, including poverty and even genetics, suggest that children reared in intact homes do best on educational achievement, emotional health, familial and sexual development, and delinquency and incarceration. In short, marriage unites a man and a woman holistically—emotionally and bodily, in acts of conjugal love and in the children such love brings forth—for the whole of life.

8. Studies show domestic violence is three times higher among homosexual partnerships, compared to heterosexual marriages. A large portion of murders, assaults, other crimes and various harms to children occur along with, or as a consequence of, domestic violence. Half of pedophilia attacks are homosexual, for example. Normalizing homosexual marriage also encourages non-marital homosexual activity, and thus the social pathologies associated with it.

9. Promiscuity is rampant among homosexuals, including those who are married. Various studies indicate that gays average somewhere between 10 and 110 different sex partners per year. The New York Times, among many other sources, reported the finding that exclusivity was not the norm among gay partners: “With straight people, it’s called affairs or cheating,” said Colleen Hoff, the study’s principal investigator, “but with gay people it does not have such negative connotations. ‘Openness’ and ‘flexibility’ of gay relationships are euphemisms for sexual infidelity.” One study showed that only 4.5% of homosexual males said they were faithful to their current partner, compared to 85% of heterosexual married women and 75.5% of heterosexual married men. Promiscuity is a destabilizing influence on society.

10. The confusion resulting from further delinking childbearing from marriage would force the state to intervene more often in family life and expand welfare programs. If marriage has no form and serves no social purpose, how will society protect the needs of children—the prime victim of our non-marital sexual culture—without government growing more intrusive and more expensive? Without healthy marriages, the community often must step in to provide (more or less directly) for their well-being and upbringing. Thus, by encouraging the norms of marriage—monogamy, sexual exclusivity, and permanence—the state strengthens civil society and reduces its own role. (Libertarians, do you see the importance of this? If you want the state to be less intrusive, get off the gay marriage idea!)

11. Promoting marriage does not ban any type of relationship: Adults are free to make choices about their relationships, and they do not need government sanction or license to do so. People are free to have contracts with each other. All Americans have the freedom to live as they choose, but no one has a right to redefine marriage for everyone else.

12. Law is a teacher. Just as many people, even some Christians, thought that slavery was okay when it was legal, will think that gay marriage is OK when it is legal.

13. Gay marriage is undeniably a step into other deviances. What will result are such things as plural marriages and polygamy. These things could not logically be turned back, and will initiate a further plunge of societal stability.

14. Only a small percentage of gays who are given the right to marry do so anyway (4% by one study). This proves that the gay marriage movement is not about marriage, but about affirmation.

15. Anal intercourse leads to numerous pathologies, obviously because the parts do not fit! Among items in a long list of problems listed by researcher and physician James Holsinger are these: enteric diseases (infections from a variety of viruses and bacteria including a very high incidence of amoebiasis, giardiasis, and hepatitis, etc.), trauma (fecal incontinence, anal fissure, rectosigmoid tears, chemical sinusitis, etc.), sexually transmitted diseases (AIDS, gonorrhea, simplex infections, genital warts, scabies, etc.). Anal cancer is only one of other medical problems higher in gay men that heterosexual men, especially monogamous heterosexual men. Society at large pays for these diseases. (Speaking to “Christian Libertarians,” unlike certain activities that also contribute to national health problems, such as obesity, homosexuality is morally wrong. Poor eating habits are not a moral issue; gluttony is not a sin.)

16. The ravages of the gay lifestyle are severe upon the gay community itself but also for society at large. The best available evidence shows that those practicing homosexual behavior have a 20% to 30% shorter life span. A much higher rate of alcoholism, drug abuse, sexually transmitted disease, domestic violence, child molestation and more occur in homosexual populations. (See http://www.faithfacts.org/christ-and-the-culture/gay-rights#ravages.)

17. It is okay to discriminate. We discriminate all the time in our rules and laws. It is illegal to marry your parent. It is illegal to be a pedophile or a sociopath, no matter how strong the innate tendency might be.

18. Gay marriage and religious freedom are incompatible because it will marginalize those who affirm marriage as the union of a man and a woman. The First Amendment is at stake! This is already evident in Massachusetts and Washington, D.C., among other locations. After Massachusetts redefined marriage to include same-sex relationships, Catholic Charities of Boston was forced to discontinue its adoption services rather than place children with same-sex couples against its principles. Massachusetts public schools began teaching grade-school students about same-sex marriage, defending their decision because they are “committed to teaching about the world they live in, and in Massachusetts same-sex marriage is legal.” A Massachusetts appellate court ruled that parents have no right to exempt their children from these classes. Businesses that refuse to accept gay marriage as a legitimate institution will be penalized. It is a certainty that the church will at some point, be unable to preach the full council of God. It will be considered hate speech to speak of traditional marriage as right. Churches will begin losing their tax exempt status. Individuals who speak out against gay marriage will be penalized. This is only the tip of the iceberg. (Speaking again to "Christian Libertarians” who are OK with gay marriage: Do you see the issue here? This is important! Legalizing gay marriage nationally will lead to an assault on religion.)

19. Homosexual practioners cost more than they contribute via disproportionate diseases and disasters such as HIV, hepatitis, herpes, mental illness, substance abuse, suicide, assault, etc. The Center for Disease Control estimates that each HIV infection ALONE generates $700,000 in direct and indirect costs. (Source: Family Research Report, April 2014)

20. Homosexual activity and marriage robs our future by: having fewer children, poorly socializing the children they raise, commit about half of all child molestations recorded in the news. (Source: Family Research Report, April 2014)

The question is asked, why shouldn't two people who love each other be allowed to get married? ANSWER: Marriage is not about love. In many countries around the world, marriages are arranged. Marriage is about the rights of children and thus is about supporting the next generation. Anything that weakens the institution of marriage is an injustice to children and a travesty to the culture.

Faith Facts, Faith Facts 50 Comments [3/25/2015 3:25:32 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris
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Quote# 107362

"...overwhelming evidence supporting evolution..." *cough, cough, choke* Sure, it must be invisible or top-secret because no one has ever been able to show me any.

Zealots, such as yourself, simply cannot incorporate new data into your belief system unless it conforms to your pre-conceived "theory"; and that is why evolutionism is a religion. When confronted by affirmative evidence that everything in your Darwinian book of fables is verifiably untrue (gill slits), you do not incorporate that information, Instead you lie, twist words and spread misinformation in an effort to hold onto what you WANT to be true, shoving everything whether it fits or not into your little evolutionism box. It's really quite pathetic, from an educational standpoint.
Sorry :-).


Oboehner, Christian News Network 45 Comments [3/25/2015 3:25:23 AM]
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Quote# 107361

After news broke that Florida’s Republican governor Rick Scott’s administration had forbid state employees from using the phrase “climate change” during official business, many conservatives claimed that people were overreacting. After all, they reasoned, Rick Scott wouldn’t seriously punish scientists for talking about climate change.

Oh yes, he would.

According to a press release issued by the Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility, a Land Management Plan Coordinator named Bart Bibler has already been suspended without pay for mentioning in his notes that climate change was discussed at an environmental meeting. His “Official Written Reprimand” cites things like “insubordination” and “conduct unbecoming a public employee.” The reprimand goes on to explain in detail that Bibler was being punished for giving the “appearance” that a meeting had been held to discuss climate change – a no-no in Republican Florida:

“I asked you to provide a summary of the meeting. You first provided a takeaway summary of the meeting, but had provided that summary in a document that used the agenda header from Ann Lazar, the meeting moderator, which gave the appearance that this was Ann’s official meeting agenda that included climate change.“

Later the letter asks Bibler to hereby abstain from inserting “any personal agenda or political advocacy into the work you perform” and to “remain unbiased and impartial, and focused on the issues at hand.”

If the violation is ridiculous, than Bibler’s punishment is doubly so. According to PEER:

As he was given the reprimand on March 9th, Mr. Bibler was told to not return to work for two days which would be charged against his personal leave time. Two days later he received a “Medical Release Form” requiring that his doctor supply the DEP with an evaluation of unspecified “medical condition and behavior” issues before being allowed to return to work.

Only in Rick Scott’s Florida can a man be deemed mentally unfit for agreeing with 97% of the world’s scientists on the state of the Earth’s climate.

State of Florida, addicting info 21 Comments [3/25/2015 3:25:15 AM]
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Quote# 107357

The gay lobby has been increasingly influential over the Mormon Church, such that by 2015 pro-homosexual agenda legislation began to pass easily in Utah.

Andy Schlafly, Conservapedia, Gay Lobby 20 Comments [3/25/2015 3:22:30 AM]
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Quote# 107355

(Denying evolution is a science, calling it a religion instead)

You keep claiming "science" when there is none.
Did they test "billions of years"? No they can't.
Did they test speciation? No, they can't.
Just more flat earth blood-letting which conveniently can't be tested, observed, or duplicated. Guess you just have to take it on faith - religion.

(Note - he says "flat earth blood-letting" to mock things which scientists believed to be true at one time.)

Oboehner, Christian News Network 19 Comments [3/25/2015 3:21:55 AM]
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“I feel that now is the perfect time to speak my mind without fear of retaliation by the president, the attorney general, the federal government etc.,” Zimmerman explained. “Initially I was extremely alleviated. Quickly that turned into realization that the Department of Justice finding that there was no basis to pursue [federal] charges was just the beginning of a journey — my personal journey — to correct the wrongs that the federal government did. To ensure that it never happens to any innocent American ever again.”

The former neighborhood watchman insisted that he had a “clean conscience” after he was found to be not guilty.

“I believe God has his plans, and for me to second-guess them would be hypocritical, almost blasphemous,” he said when asked if he wished the encounter that ended Martin’s life would have turned out differently.

George Zimmerman, Rawstory.com 32 Comments [3/25/2015 3:21:20 AM]
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Quote# 107352

Occam’s Razor leading us to God

Well, I think Occam’s Razor (why we have to use it, I don’t know), itself leads us to existence of God.
The existence of me, myself, a conscious being is a big problem which has to be answered. The only way we can explain is that, there is one being, existed without the existence of anything else. Nobody uses Occam’s Razor this way. I do not know why! The question is always like this: “God exists or we created him.” resulting “we created him.” But this does not answer who created “me”? What is “me”? There is no easy answer to this.
What about “It is, because it is.”? Well, then “God is, because He is!”
“Nothingness results in existence.” Well, then what is a “result”? What is “resulting”? Are you sure you can understand the notion “nothingness”. Do you think anybody can? Nothingness is nothing! There is nothing in nothingness! (Can we even say that?) What a fallacy to think there is (I just said “There is”! Then it is not nothingness!) a resulting force in nothingness. (“In nothingness”, whatever it means!) This makes the nothingness God!
Well, we have to accept that there is an eternal being!
This leads us to that, this being, which can exist only depending his self, has to be perfect, because a perfectness like not having a beginning cannot be compared to anything else in any sense. Being not comparable to anything means being perfect then anything. (How true that is!) The notion ‘part’ is a part of our universe, which also our limits our thinking, and does not apply to the One. So, we come to that He is One, He is not like anything and He is above everything. Why? Whatever exists depends on Him to exist, so they can lose their existence by His will. Having a dependency for its own existence is the biggest weakness! Anything except God is like that.
“If there is God, why I do not see him?”
How can you see him? God is not imaginable and is not imprisoned in time and space? Seeing is a physical event done by eyes, ears, tongue, nose, skin! How can we think that, we can imprison God into such senses? In this sense, also the question “Where is God?” is illogical itself. We cannot even say God is inside the universe or outside. The notion “place” is a creation itself.
Thinking! Thinking is enough proof of God. I can think and nothingness cannot result in a concious thinking being! That is obvious and clear. My consciousness can only be given by One who is conscious.
Let’s come to the poetry of the existence, physics! Who wrote it? Why there is a consistency? Why this consistency never falls apart? What is the secret behind that a proton is connected to an electron, in the same way, with the same equations, everywhere? Or let me ask the question this way, an experiment (science is only experiments!) resulting in the same equations is the guarantee of this equations? Anybody who read some philosophy of science knows that science cannot give us facts, it cannot answer the question “what?” and “why?”, it only ‘tries’ to answer “how?”. It cannot tell you why there is a relation between A and B, tell you how the relation works. Science has no aims of truths or facts, it is not the way. If you ‘believe’ in science, you have a religion of the ’cause and effect’ god. Cause and effect relations are not provable, unless they are absolute, which is only the case when we accept the existense of God and know that He is the only Cause for any single thing. If after A, comes B, it is because every single time God wants so.
That is all clear, believe or not believe.
No power, no force but God. That is the simple, absolute truth.
(I would write more, but I think it is enough for the one understands.)

thinksee, Think and See 28 Comments [3/25/2015 3:20:57 AM]
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Quote# 107350

When a liberal says for 30 years that the world will cool, gets it wrong, then says for 20 years that the world will WARM, gets it wrong, then claims that the climate will "change" [something it's been doing for BILLIONS of years], and that the changes will result in "more violent storms" [wrong] and more "Extreme weather events" [wrong]....and when the DRAMATIC majority of scientific projections markedly overestimate climate shifts - and all in one direction - why are the people who STILL put blind faith into that system that has not produced reliable hypotheses considered the allies of science?

There is *NOTHING* more scientific than being skeptical of someone who can't prove their hypothesis. We've seen over a decade an a half of flat temperatures, more than 10 years without a Cat 3 or higher hurricane making landfall in the US, and pretty much every prediction from melting antarctic to "snowless winters" fall flat. At a certain point, the AGW folks should admit that they don't have models complex enough to deal with climate, have no clue how cloud patterns impact global temperature, and don't fully understand the impact of natural cycles such as El Nino oscillations and solar patterns.

But I wouldn't hold my CO2 - er, breath.

nullroar, Philly.com 19 Comments [3/25/2015 3:20:38 AM]
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Quote# 107349

Now gender distinction for humans is so important that in the very first chapter of the Bible, which is foundational to the whole Bible, God emphasizes this gender distinction:

So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. (Genesis 1:27)

Jesus, the Son of God, our Creator, as the God-man, made this emphatic statement:

But from the beginning of the creation, God “made them male and female. (Mark 10:6)

And again in Matthew 19:4, Jesus, in explaining the meaning of marriage, emphasized the following:

Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female . . . ? (Matthew 19:4)

And I love how He stated, “have you not read…?” I believe we could paraphrase this verse as, “Haven’t you people read the book of Genesis, that when I created humans, that I made them male and female?” (Matthew 19:4)

God has clearly revealed to us in His Word that gender is not something we can choose to discard. When God created mankind, He made them male and female (Genesis 1:27). It’s only concerning our spiritual state in Christ where there is no male or female distinction, as both are equally made in God’s image and equally valuable in His sight (Galatians 3:28).

Ken Ham, Answers in Genesis 26 Comments [3/25/2015 3:18:51 AM]
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Quote# 107348

How to Become an Atheist

If you are thinking of becoming an atheist, beware. The first step is easy, but it’s not so easy to walk the walk. You will have to ignore design when you can see it everywhere: in the universe, the atoms, the birds and the bees, the clouds and trees, the seasons, the human body, fish, flowers, fruits, feet, and even fungus. And of course, there is the amazing-looking human eye.

Everywhere you look and everywhere you can't look with the human eye you will see incredible design.

Now here's the really difficult part. You will need to believe that everything man-made: cars, computers, and candies were made by man, etc., but deny that everything in nature--cattle, camels, and cabbages, etc., were made at all. It came from nothing, with no Maker. Once you have done this, crown yourself as being intelligent.

Then you will need to find other atheists who believe as you do, and they will confirm to you that you are indeed intelligent.

You will also need to believe that evolution is true and that you’re an ape and therefore you are not morally responsible because apes have no moral absolutes.

Never forget to always give God a small "g," and learn believers' phrases such as "Evolution is a proven fact," and “I have no beliefs in any gods.”

Do these things, and you will be able to call yourself a "new" atheist. How cool is that! Well, not really. You can¹t be a true atheist because you need absolute knowledge to say that there is no God. Besides, you intuitively know that He exists.

Still, for sin-loving sinners the benefits of atheism are great in this life. But not the next. So you are really not an atheist, and to keep with your sinful lifestyle I guess you will just have to pretend to be one. Or you could simply check out -- www.EvolutionVsGod.com

Ray Comfort, Ray Comfort's Facebook page 43 Comments [3/25/2015 3:18:34 AM]
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Quote# 107347

Some of it surely stems from the cult of the gentleman, which has done so much to pussify Western men. Some guys just have puffed-up, purified images of themselves.

This to me is much more correct on who should be genuflecting and to whom

The proper place for a woman is on her knees before her lord. i.e., the man.

It's actually quite difficult, outside of sex, to find depictions of woman's proper submission to man.


Laguna Beach Fogey, Alpha Game: In Search of Honor 26 Comments [3/25/2015 3:10:03 AM]
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Quote# 107346

The world today is in the middle of Kali Yuga. This is a cycle of the McUniverse™ in which all is turned upside down and inside out. In other words, the faggits and wimmin are in charge. Menation Cult opposes the irrational and silly and stupid. In other words, Menation Cult advocates the rational male brain and the rational male understanding taking its place as the leader and controller of the McUniverse™.

A journey may begin with a single step, but being a man begins with a single thought. Menation Cult is about masculinity. Which means in practical terms, reason. Wimin and faggits have no practical ability to reason. It is no surprise that The Church of PC promotes the "right" of wimmin and faggits to vote, even hold power. This is clearly against Nature. The Nation of Men Embracing Nature Cult, "Menation", opposes any and all power wielded by wimmin or faggits.

The Church of PC uses terms such as antisemitic, racist, sexist, and anti-gay in lieu of "heresy". This is a religious tradition acquired from its mentor and predecessor, the Church of Rome, which at one time roasted heretics. Today, The Church of PC deals somewhat more humanely with heretics, although the effect is essentially the same. To faggitize and effeminize McSociety (copywrong).

Menation Cult is antisemitic, racist, sexist, and anti-gay. "All of the above". Not because we hate JewFags, non-Europeans, wimmin.are.irritating.bores.com, or McQueers. But we oppose The Church of PC telling us what to think and how to feel. So we are everything The Church of PC doesn't want us to be.

If a Semite - an Arab or person of Jewish descent - wishes to associate with Menation Cult, he is welcome, as long as the said person is not a woman or a faggit. Menation Cult simply hates Judaism, not persons of Jewish or other Semitic descent. No Wimmin or JewFags allowed.

A man is composed of three basic categories, mind™, body©, and McSpirit. These categories are addressed individually.

The mind is a myth. So it is better to define a brain. And its electro-chemical activity. Thought. Which leads to Mentellect. Wimmin and faggits do not think. They merely babble irritating and manipulative nonsense. And waste the time, money, and energy of men. Stop wasting your time, money, and energy on wimmin, men. Stop engaging in sexual activity, because it will waste your mental energy. Stop thinking about wimmin. Stop listening to their boring, trifling, irritating nonsense. Use your brain for productive endeavors.

Your body is your own. You have a clearly defined right to control your body, and you possess it fully, from the day of your conception. Wimmin and faggits are not logical. Men are. Wimmin and faggits advocate circumcision. JewFags are the ultimate Kali Yuga culmination of effeminized faggitization. JewFagIsm holds newborn rape and sexual disfigurement as its holiest commandment. Because JewFags are queer abominations of Nature. Menation Cult, conversely, considers prevention or reversal of circumcision to be its holiest commandment. The JewFag is the incarnation of evil in Menation Cult. Mudslimes who follow IsSlime are also held liable for child molestation and sexual disfigurement. To hell with them.

The Spirit is the highest order of freedom. Men have a soul. Wimmin and faggits are empty machines. Programmable devices. At the service of The Church of PC.

In practical terms, Menation Cult's approach to confronting the forces of Kali Yuga, consists of 3 basic policies of behavior. Total Continence - absolute and total abstinence from any and all sexual activity. Veganism - eliminating corpse and dead flesh consumption, and if possible, eschewing consumption of any and all animal and insect derived foodstuffs. Mentellect - using your ManBrain to solve and overcome problems.

Menation Cult has a major holiday. Boycott-wimmin-and-faggit Week. The date is random. Menation Cult Nonconformists must try to live without any contributions that wimmin and faggits have made scientifically & technologically, artistically, and intellectually.

A few years ago, a book came out by some JewFags, "The Bell Curve". The JewFags wanted to make a few shekels. Since racial equality and harmony weren't really generating any lucre, these JewBoyFaggits decided to write an incendiary book that essentially promulgated niggraz iz dum. While there may indeed be some slight statistical basis for claiming that niggraz iz dum, there are MEN of color who have contributed in all spheres of progress. This is cited as an example to make a point, an analogy; While there may be some slight statistic discrepancy between contributions and achievements in regard to men of color versus low-melanin-pigmented men, wimmin and faggits are a staggering chasm of mediocrity.

During Boycot-wimmin-and-faggits Week, Menation Cult Nonconformists will likely have to do without Lady Gaga and the drawstring trashbag. The key word here is TRY. Try to figure out what, at all, faggits and wimmin have EVER contributed? Good luck, McGents.

- Dr. Rob


*****The KBH*****


Dr. Rob, Knights of Banjo Hollow 28 Comments [3/25/2015 3:09:48 AM]
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