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Quote# 127420

I fully support eugenics.

Ugly people shouldn't be allowed to breed. Kill all inferior ugly male species. Only Chads should be allowed to thrive. All other people are suffering anyways. Also, biology also supports the view. So I fully support eugenics and the process of extermination of inferior humans. It's just the next step in human evolution.

gufestus1, /r/incels 5 Comments [5/23/2017 5:59:04 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 127416

[From "Against fascist despotic rule"]

It has been thirty-seven years since the Gwangju Popular Uprising took place.

The Gwangju Popular Uprising was the eruption of the pent-up grudge and wrath of the south Korean people against the US and its stooges.

On May 17, 1980, the Chun Doo-hwan military junta declared "martial law-10" to ban all assemblies and political activities, shut down all universities and apply a strict pre-censorship system on the media. And it arrested lots of youth and students and democratic personages of various circles at night of May 17 and at dawn of the next day. The May 17 fascist rampage was a great fascist rowdyism heralding the start of new dictatorship in south Korea and another plot to seize "power".

[...]

Nearly 40 years have passed since the uprising, but the wishes of the south Korean people to live in an independent and democratic society and a reunified country have not yet come true.

It is entirely due to the US which has dominated south Korea as its colony and the puppet group of traitors who has thoroughly trampled down the desire and aspiration of the people, pursuant to the US policy.

After coming to power, traitor Park Geun-hye had brought the south Korean people to bottomless abyss of misfortune and sufferings and turned south Korea into a graveyard of democracy and a human slaughterhouse by reviving her father's "yusin" dictatorial system and enforcing the fascist rule surpassing the predecessors.

Park and her stooges are a group of fascist gangsters and a horde of hideous man-killers surpassing the "yusin" dictator, who seized power through May 16 military coup, and the military gangsters who mercilessly suppressed the Gwangju Popular Uprising with tanks and armored cars.

History never pardons the traitors who ran amuck for the fascist dictatorial rule in collusion with foreign forces.

Anti-Imperialist National Democratic Front, Anti-Imperialist National Democratic Front 8 Comments [5/23/2017 3:33:42 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 127414

(Commenting on a meme she posted which reads: "God Loves Homosexuals - He also loves rapists, murderers, child molesters, atheists, liars, thieves, pedophiles, zoophiles and the incestuous...WHAT'S YOUR POINT?"

Timely word when the world insists on lying and labeling sex love.
Using that logic, one could assume that sex workers are in love with every person they sleep with. Nonsense.
Man has obviously corrupted God's creation and perverted an act that was created to be shared between a husband and wife as an expression of their love for one another in a God-ordained covenant.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - Faith & Religion 14 Comments [5/22/2017 11:34:13 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 127413

New brain research reveals your habits are passed onto your children and grandchildren.

Have you ever wondered why some patterns in your family history seem to be recurring in your own life? Strongholds such as anxiety, poverty, illnesses and addictions to name a few. The Bible refers to these as generational curses, which the church has long believed was purely spiritual. But according to new brain research, this biblical principle is far more scientific than we realize.

The concept of generational curses is presented in Exodus 20:5. In the King James Version it says that God will ‘visit’ the sins of the fathers down to the third and fourth generation. The term ‘visit’ makes more sense in light of this new study which shows that generational curses can, indeed, be scientifically traced back from one generation to another.

Pioneering studies in epigenetics reveals that our life experiences and choices do change us, including our brains, down to the DNA level. And these changes can be passed onto our children and further down the hereditary line. Epigenetics gives insight to how our diets, work environment – even one-off traumatic events – can change the genetic legacy we pass onto our children and grandchildren.

WHAT IS EPIGENETICS?

Epigenetics is information that sits above the genome, which controls the programming of DNA, instructing different cells how to express themselves. In an interview from the Conquer Series, a new men’s DVD-based teaching series, neuropsychologist, Dr. Jes Montgomery explains, “Sensations we put into the brain will use the DNA to change how the cell responds. And those genes are turned ‘off’ or ‘on’ based on what that response is. While the DNA doesn’t change, the expression does.” What’s fascinating about this new study is that it reveals that our DNA is not immutable, which was the former notion, but that environment markedly affects our gene expressions and the ways we function and behave.

A BLOW TO EVOLUTION

This quiet scientific revolution could be a paradigm shift for evolutionary biology, as it pretty much refutes Darwin’s central premise. Neuropsychologist, Dr. Tim Jennings said, “Which is more scientifically accurate – the Bible or Charles Darwin? Well guess what? It’s the Bible. Darwin hypothesized that it was mutation over millions of years that caused finches to have different beaks. Science has actually now proved, it’s epigenetic modification. This is big, because science is now confirming Scripture.”

INHERITED INFORMATION

Epigenetics reveals that not only do we pass along the DNA sequence to our children, but we also pass along the epigenetic instructions to them. In other words, information can be inherited and transmitted through generations. In an experiment on ‘transgenerational epigenetic inheritance’, researchers at Emory University, trained mice to fear a fruity odor by pairing it with a mild electric shock to the foot. Ten days later, the mice were allowed to mate. Incredibly, their pups feared the odor even without having encountered the smell before. But even more fascinating is that the offspring of those pups – the grandchildren – were born with the same specific memory. We see the mice study apply to humans. One example were the attacks of 9/11. Among the thousands of people directly exposed to the attack were 1,700 pregnant women. Some of these women developed symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). Their children reacted with high levels of fear and stress around loud noises, unfamiliar people, or new foods. It seems the infants inherited the nightmare that their mothers experienced on that day.

SINS OF THE FATHER

It’s cathartic when you can literally put the concept of generational curses under the microscope. Suddenly your habits and experiences have far greater social implications, because you no longer live life just for yourself but for your descendants too. As Jennings points out, “The choices we make – the foods that we eat, the things that we watch – can affect how the DNA is expressed. When we have kids, we pass on the sequence to them. So if we become addicted to stuff, we can pass along to our children gene instructions that make them more vulnerable to addictions.” So take pornography addiction, for instance, since it’s the fastest growing epidemic in today’s church. According to a recent study, 68 percent of Christian men are addicted to porn. Most likely, they are unaware of the hereditary ramifications of viewing porn. “It doesn’t happen generally with one exposure to pornography. It’s the repetitive volitional exposure to pornography that will cause this type of gene expression change to happen”, explains Jennings.

These staggering statistics make you wonder what implications porn addiction will have on the church’s future. Pastor James Reeves of City On A Hill DFW, who has successfully tackled porn addiction in his church, warns, “We are raising a generation of sex addicts in the church. Young Christian men who are so exposed to pornography. What’s going to happen is as this generation gets married and has children, the spiral of their addiction will get tighter and tighter. It’s going to really sweep through the church like a tsunami wave of destruction of the family. And the church is absolutely not prepared for it.”

Dr. Ted Roberts, a sex addiction therapist and the host of the Conquer Series, said, “Probably the most devastating consequence is that God guarantees you – His Word is very clear: the curse will be visited to the third and fourth generation. If you are in sexual bondage or you are struggling with that and don’t get an effective dealing with it, it will be passed on to your kids.”

BREAKING THE CURSE

The good news is that even if epigenetic modifications are passed onto your offspring, they are reversible. In other words, it is possible to break the curse. “You can go either way. we can pass along both positive things in our life and or negative, depending on the choices we make in life”, said Jennings.

In another experiment with mice, the notion of breaking generational curses is clearly demonstrated. Scientists bred mice to have a memory impairment. In short, they were bred to be stupid. Then they took the mice and for two weeks, during their adolescence, the mice were placed in an enriched environment with lots of toys. Not surprisingly, the mice developed better memory despite their bad genes. The enriched environment caused an epigenetic modification, switching off the bad gene. But here’s where it gets interesting: the pups of the mice from the enriched environment were also born with the gene defect, but had the epigenetic modification such that the bad gene was shut off. Instead, they were born with good memory despite their bad genes.

But here’s the million Dollar question: If a Christian is set free from his past after being born-again, why are there so many believers who still see the effects of generational curses in their lives? Could it be because so many of us still live under the law? The law tells us that God’s blessings are conditional, depending on how good we are, which is based on our works, whereas grace tells us that Christ took the curse upon himself on the Cross: Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us, (for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree”, Galatians 3:13). The law condemns us, but grace gives us the gift of non-condemnation. Once we are gripped by grace, we can truly have the mind of Christ which transforms our behavior and that infuses all our relationships. Suddenly, we are empowered to break the curses, knowing that the blood of Christ covers us. This transformation is physically revealed in the genetic changes in our bodies, but also on the legacy we will be leaving behind.

Having an understanding of epigenetics, we no longer have to be victims of predetermined genetic codes. Spiritually speaking – we don’t have to live under the curse and subject our children to it. Because of the Cross, the generational curses in our family can be broken. Science is merely discovering these powerful biblical truths. Being under grace, we can choose to turn the tide of generational curses to blessings. As Dr. Doug Weiss, a marriage counselor, said, “Don’t think of it as a battle you’re just fighting for yourself. You’re fighting for the very lineage that God gave you. And if you will break this curse, then your sons and your daughters have a better shot and your grandchildren have a better shot. My son’s name is Jubilee, because his dad took the courage to break the curses off of him. I want to invite you to do the very same thing for those you love.”

Jeremy, Conquer Series 13 Comments [5/22/2017 11:33:45 PM]
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Quote# 127380

The Sufficiency of Scripture for Helping People in Need

Author Steve Ham explores the consistency between the positions of biblical creation and biblical counseling concerning the authority of God’s Word and its sufficiency in the lives of all believers.

Recently I had the opportunity to read and review the book Counseling the Hard Cases.1 This book places the biblical counseling movement on display as it reports the process and outcomes of real-life counseling cases. As a biblical creationist, I was continually encouraged to find the counselors’ dedication to the sufficiency of Scripture for helping real people with real problems. While preparing a review of this book as a graduate student at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky, I became even more aware of the consistency between the positions of biblical creation and biblical counseling concerning the authority of God’s Word and its sufficiency in the lives of all believers.

Biblical Authority and Medical Science

I noticed the strong correlations between biblical creationists and biblical counselors in the first chapter of Counseling the Hard Cases. Both positions face accusations revolving around the nature of authority and science. For example, many “Christian counselors” are convinced that the use of such treatments as hypnosis or psychotropic drugs are based on strong scientific research and analysis.2 Persuaded that this research comes from an authoritative source, they then integrate it into their counseling methodology.

Like most “Christian counselors,” trained biblical counselors typically take great care to refer counselees to doctors for necessary medical diagnosis and treatment of their physical ailments. However, for spiritual issues the biblical counselor seeks to ensure that Scripture is seen as the supreme authority and sufficient to help all believers deal with trials (suffering) or sin in their lives. Biblical counselors also should acquaint themselves with the research related to such things as medication, noting which recommendations are based upon repeatable, testable observations and which are based on assumptions influenced by a secular worldview. This is also why biblical counselors prefer to work in partnership with physicians who are Bible-believing Christians. In recognition of secular worldview influences in the medical community, many biblical counselors have armed counselees with questions to ask their practitioners who prescribe medications such as anti-depressants. Especially if a diagnosis is as broad as the term “chemical imbalance,” biblical counselors will encourage questions such as the following:

• What tests were performed to prove that the problem exists?
• What proof do you have that the problem you discovered is not merely a symptom of a deeper problem?
• What proof do you have that the medication you are prescribing truly corrects the problem?

Properly Diagnosing the Problem and Its Remedy

In today’s world it seems nearly every social or relational problem known to man is categorized by a descriptively named disorder and often treated by some psychotropic drug. In many cases, counselors and others re-label sinful responses to situations in a way that removes personal responsibility. For example, lashing out at your children in anger is now known as Intermittent Explosive Disorder, and “it’s not your fault” that you act the way you do. If your son consistently disobeys your authority as his parent, he will likely be diagnosed with Oppositional Defiant Disorder. These disorders are often depicted as villains maliciously attacking their victims as if they were a force unto themselves. When seen in this light, these problems become the cause of debilitation for many people who find themselves lost in a hopeless dependence on secular psychological techniques and prescription medication.

This wrong perception of relational problems that are ultimately rooted in sinful thoughts and behaviors has sadly become commonplace even in the church. Many counseling practitioners have attempted to make a compatible partnership between Christian doctrine and worldly philosophies in the diagnosis and treatment of the human soul.[

Scripture Is Sufficient to Help with the Problems of Life

To address this issue, Counseling the Hard Cases reports on real-life case studies from eleven experienced biblical counselors. Compiled by editors Stuart Scott and Heath Lambert, the introduction clearly sets forth the theme for this collection of biblical counseling case studies.4 In the development of the modern biblical counseling movement over the last fifty years, persuasive evidence shows that “Scripture is comprehensively sufficient to do ministry with people experiencing profound difficulties in their lives” (p. 23).

While the sufficiency of Scripture in counseling is the basic thesis of the book, in each of the hard cases the editors have been careful to display this concept practically in the lives of real people. Even for those who are not skeptical about biblical counseling, the results of these hard cases were amazing and gave great cause for rejoicing in the redeeming grace found in the Cross of Christ.

The biblical counseling movement has been criticized by those who are skeptical of the sufficiency of Scripture for counseling. Secular psychology understandably views the Bible as irrelevant, but many “Christian counselors” acknowledge the Bible’s relevance yet deny its sufficiency in the way that they practically advise their counselees. We expect people with a purely naturalistic view of the human condition to dismiss biblical wisdom in counseling, and therefore this book primarily answers the criticisms of “Christian counseling.”

One of the primary criticisms of biblical counselors is that they use the Bible to somehow replace science and therefore ignore the consensus of secular research for dealing with psychological problems. But the proof of scriptural sufficiency for biblical counseling is convincingly “in the pudding.”5 This book helps put to rest the misconception that biblical counselors ignore science as the reader observes them partnering with trained physicians to treat real and identifiable physical problems. It is in the power of the Holy Spirit and the gospel of Christ, through the voice of the counselor, that the application of biblical truth guides a responsive counselee to healing and sanctification.

When discussing counseling methods, a key question to ask is this: does the authority to diagnose the many human dysfunctional behaviors come from man’s word or God’s Word? Heath Lambert is quick to point out that the counseling debate is profoundly centered in presuppositions. He refers to Jay Adams, who stated that his presupposition in counseling methodology is “the inerrant Bible as the standard of all faith and practice” (p. 8). It is clear that each of the contributing authors commences his or her counseling approach with the same presupposition as Adams. To some, this presupposition may seem like an intellectual debate about methodologies. But the ten extraordinary cases presented in the book consistently confirm the truth of this idea in real-life situations as the hope of Christ transforms lives and frees people from bondage to sinful thoughts and behaviors. So, a presuppositional approach to Scripture is not simply a debate about truth; it is also entirely practical.

Can the Bible Help with the Hard Cases?

Like biblical creationists, biblical counselors have never claimed that the Bible is a science textbook.

Other accusations against the biblical counseling movement have come from a misinterpretation of the doctrine of the sufficiency of Scripture. Critics claim that the Bible is not a science textbook, and therefore it is ill-equipped to help with so-called psychological disorders. The answers to such claims are well stated in this book.

First, secular psychology fails to prove that many of the human problems “classified as mental illnesses” are related to any real “disease or illness at all” (p. 8). This ultimately means that the “science” of secular psychology has its own problems with regard to the definition of observational (i.e., testable, repeatable) science, by which a hypothesis is repeatedly tested and either proven or denied. As a prime example, no one really knows how certain neurotransmitters relate to conditions like depression and anxiety. Yet various medications are prescribed to correct imbalances that have not been accurately defined.

Second, critics from the Christian counseling movement suggest that biblical counselors are using the Bible in place of “science” or as a “science” textbook. But, like biblical creationists, biblical counselors have never claimed that the Bible is a science textbook. Within all the different genres that Scripture takes, the biblical counselor starts with a commitment to the authority of God’s Word. So, instead of viewing human problems in the light of a secular label such as a phobia or disorder, biblical counselors present human problems as Scripture does—in terms of the problem of human sin and suffering and the answer in the gospel.

Real Help and Change in Transformed Living

Reading through each of the hard cases, one soon comes to the realization that these scriptural truths are not just words on a page. Instead, the case studies show there truly is transformational power in the living Word of God (Hebrews 4:12). The same God who saves us from everlasting destruction also brings us into a life that exemplifies His grace. Even more enlightening is the fact that many of the people whose stories are told in this book found genuine healing after having first been disillusioned by the debilitating effects of anti-depressives, hypnosis, attempts to relive a better childhood, and various other secular treatments.

The list of documented cases contains “disorders” that many pastors have dispatched in the “too-hard” basket. They include an extreme example of sexual abuse, obsessive-compulsive disorder, bipolar disorder, and more. A purely theoretical book cannot touch the impact of this book in retelling what these real-life experiences reveal about the sufficiency of Scripture in the counseling process.

One final thing that should be mentioned in respect to these cases is the book’s consistent theme highlighting the believer’s satisfaction in Christ, confidence in the gospel, the power of the Holy Spirit, a commitment for prayerful reading and application of Scripture, and the supportive care of the local church community. The counseling process is shown to engage not only one counselor but God working through His Word and the community of believers in the heart and mind of the counselee.

The Powerful Word of God

I heartily recommend this book to pastors and any believer needing to witness the powerful nature of the Word of God to gain confidence and steadfastness in the faith—and anyone with a desire to help others:

I myself am satisfied about you my brothers that you yourselves are full of goodness, filled with all knowledge and able to instruct one another. (Romans 15:14, ESV)


Footnotes

1. Stuart W. Scott and Heath Lambert, eds. Counseling the Hard Cases. Nashville, TN: B&H Publishing Group, 2012.
2. “Christian counseling” is a term most often associated with counselors who are prepared to integrate secular psychology’s methodologies and treatments into their counseling.
3. Answers in Genesis has produced an excellent video on this very topic called Counterfeit Counseling by Pastor Brad Bigney.
4. Dr. Stuart Scott, one of the editors of Counseling the Hard Cases, spoke at the Answers for Pastors conference in October 2013 on the sufficiency of Scripture in biblical counseling.
5. This is not to say that every biblical counseling case ends successfully. God’s Word—our fully reliable and sufficient source of truth—requires the believer to submit and obey in humility, but sadly, some people do not submit to the authority of Scripture.

Steve Ham, Answers In Genesis 12 Comments [5/22/2017 11:33:31 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 127412

There will be no *impeachment* of DJT, God has already written the script.

If you don't see manifest destiny playing out before your eyes, dare I call it a modern miracle, you are blind. If you don't hear a calling from a higher place, you are deaf.

A man who wasn't supposed to beat a single person in the primary but beat 17, a man who wasn't supposed to beat a honed and polished career politician, but did.

He now sits as leader of the free world, and you think some worthless little liberal pukes, not that different than the dog shit that gets stuck to bottom of your shoe, is going to stop him? Really?

Never bet against Donald J Trump, never. You're betting against God's preordained plan.

So it be written, so it be done.

[...]

Donald J. Trump was the 'Chosen One', albeit somewhat unwilling like Noah, but chosen nonetheless.

Anonymous Coward, Godlike Productions 25 Comments [5/22/2017 1:54:45 PM]
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Quote# 127408

Devon and Cornwall Police have said a leaflet posted through doors in North Devon isn't a crime – despite it advising gay people to "control their urges".

The leaflet, entitled "How to Harness Your Habits", was distributed in North Devon by Jehovah's Witnesses and contains an article asking "What does the Bible say about homosexuality?"

In it, the religious group states that "rejecting homosexuality" is completely different to "rejecting people of a different skin colour" and says their views are the same as people who "view smoking as harmful and even repugnant".

The Journal was contacted by a reader, who wishes to remain anonymous, who felt "belittled" by the leaflet.

[...]

Using passages from the Bible as, the text also says: "A person who has homosexual leanings can control what he allows his mind to dwell on, just as he would control any other wrong desire, including leanings towards anger, adultery or greed."

However, it also says "the Bible does not encourage prejudice, hate crimes or any other kind of mistreatment of homosexuals".

Devon and Cornwall Police looked at the leaflet and stated: "We have been made aware of some religious materials which have been distributed in North Devon.

"Whilst it doesn't appear to meet the threshold to be considered a crime, these have been passed on to our Diverse Communities Team to look into."

[The original article can be bound in "What Does the Bible Say About Homosexuality?", Awake!, No. 4 2016]

Jehovah’s Witnesses' "Awake!" magazine, Cult Education Institute 10 Comments [5/22/2017 1:13:27 PM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 127400

“The destruction of these monuments, erected in the loving memory of our family and fellow Southern Americans, is both heinous and horrific,” Oliver wrote. “If the, and I use this term extremely loosely, ‘leadership’ of Louisiana wishes to, in a Nazi-ish fashion, burn books or destroy historical monuments of OUR HISTORY, they should be LYNCHED! Let it be known, I will do all in my power to prevent this from happening in our State.”

Karl Oliver, Raw Story 45 Comments [5/22/2017 9:48:34 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 127388

National Socialism was great for most white Germans. They had plenty of freedom, in some ways more than we have now. Ironically, the propaganda surrounding what actually happened in National Socialist Germany far out-weighs the propaganda of the actual National Socialists (not that propaganda is necessarily a bad thing). Anyone who went against national interests was violently oppressed, of course (as they should have been). Beyond that, you could live your life with a great deal of freedom.

[[The Nonaggression Principle is the bread and butter of any libertarian, and the Nazis routinely trampled all over it.]]

Fuck the NAP. Individualism is for faggots. I'd be perfectly happy in National Socialist Germany.

666-1488, Deviantart forums 24 Comments [5/22/2017 3:05:14 AM]
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Quote# 127385

There are 1.5 billion Muslims to 300 million Americans, half of which is, oh yeah, only 5 Americans for every Muslim, 10 liberals to every Muslim, and 20 Democrat feminists for every Muslim. I see your point. Do you see mine? If you do not see my point, it is clear you are the type to search to get the grain of dirt out of your peas, while you are willing to eat a pound of cockroaches. Lord Jesus talks about that kind of people. So, there are about 20 feminist liberals for every Muslim, yet, the feminists murdered 50% more than Al Qaeda in 911.

Of course I believe it is good when Muslims rape and kill liberal women and men.

They reap what they sow.

Aa Ee, InfoWars (link will take you to Disqus) 17 Comments [5/22/2017 3:04:44 AM]
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Submitted By: Citizen Justin

Quote# 127383

[In response to this article]

Sigh... I used to believe that the slippery slope argument was a fallacy. Turns out I was wrong. Let the fags marry and this shit actually IS next.

I've been wrong many times before, and I accept it gracefully, but this one hurts.

Fambida, Voat 10 Comments [5/22/2017 3:04:36 AM]
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Submitted By: Daspletosaurus

Quote# 127382

[OP of "Kill all atheists"]

Here's a common argument atheists make if we call for their expulsion if not outright elimination of atheists in society:

"If this is what your God wants, then He must be a psychopath"

To which we answer:

If there's no God, then all things are determined by the laws of science, which is what governs the laws of nature. If the way nature behaves and human history are reliable, murdering people for no reason is a perfectly legitimate course of action against those who are considered threats. So in a Godless universe, why is psychopathy bad, if it is a naturally occurring behavior in animals? Animals commit genocide. Animals commit rapes and murders, but if human beings are just another animal, where do you base your objective value judgment on God's or anyone's psychopathy, if values and even the notion of psychopathy are social constructs that are the byproduct of the human brain's evolution?

On the Christian, God-fearing side, St. Thomas Aquinas justifies the removal of atheists, heretics, and sodomites because not only do they threaten the material well-being of society, for example, by accumulating wealth that doesn't circulate outside their sodomy trains, but also the spiritual health of the people.

UnworthySinner, Reddit - r/commonfilth 23 Comments [5/22/2017 3:04:26 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 127379

All of your arguments against Hovind are saying that he is comparing living things to a highway and house and that is stupid. He is using the highway and house metaphore to highlight the way inanimate objects behave. Which according to the Evolutionist religion (its not actually science) the earth was non biological from 4.5GA (proto earth) to 3.8GA first sign of life. Meaning an inanimite earth turned biological on its own.... BAM! OK so the sun adding energy overcomes the 2 law of thermodynamics? What if I told you adding energy is destructive without a complex mechanism to harness the energy. which came from where? Stop trying to justify your disgusting ways of living, pick up a bible and start learning the truth for your own sake, please.

Josh Earl, FSTDT comments 17 Comments [5/21/2017 2:19:02 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 127377

Pride. Arrogance. Rebellion. Selfishness. Conceitedness. I know this because I found these roots in my heart in regards to femininity and masculinity. Women (more specifically wives) are called to be/do the following: Helper: Gen 2:18, Care Taker: Titus 2:3-5, Ultimate image of beauty: Song of Solomon, and Submissive to husbands: 1 Tim. 2: 12.
In the second week, I talked about the seeds that were sown early in my life and the product I reaped was masculinity. I can’t say it enough that this was not done intentionally by my parents. None of this was done with the attitude of: “Oh, I want her to be masculine so I will not say anything and lead her down a masculine path.” Who I was came from a sinful and deceptive heart. It was because of Christ and His sacrifice that I could be redeemed: not just spiritually, but with every aspect of my life. We as Christians are not just called to become saved and live our merry lives with no changing. We are called to sanctification. To fix what is broken.
We as Christians should be redeeming everything we come into contact. Our families, church, schools, friends, extended families, neighbors, everyone we come into contact with. Redeeming…to recover sinful distortions into what they were intended to be. God made Adam and Eve perfect. He created their relationship with Himself and with each other perfect. When sin entered into the world, everything-to include creation-was tainted by sin and became distorted. Our relationships became distorted. Our deepest most intimate connections became distorted. Femininity became distorted. Masculinity became distorted. When I was born, I inherited distortion. After I realized (through God’s magnificent grace alone) that my life was horribly masculine and I was living a distorted life, I began the process of becoming who God made me to be: a true woman. My dress, my speech, my walk, my attitude, and soul was becoming more feminine. I didn’t know how bad everything was until I tried to fix it. Imagine a 25 year old trying to walk with her hips and a sway instead of with her shoulders and like a horse rider that just got off a horse after 4 hours of riding… it wasn’t pretty. If anything it was like the one funny part out of a bad comedy.
My hope and prayer is to encourage women to stand down. To get out of man’s arena (where he ultimately flourishes in) and to get into women’s arena (where she will flourish in). When women go into man’s realm, we are taking their masculinity away. They are not true men when we as women are not true women. When women become the primary protectors and the children run to the women for protection (police officer: mom-librarian: dad). When women become the primary means of providing (CEO: mom-stay at home: dad). When women are the primary spiritual leaders of a Christian home (who is teaching the children to follow the Lord…mom or dad? Who is seen as the spiritual leader? Mom or Dad? Kids aren’t stupid….they know.) The Lord will hold the heads of the households primarily responsible for what goes on. “The man said, “The woman whom you gave to be with me, she gave me fruit of the tree, and I ate.” Genesis 3:12. God calls Adam to give the account and the distortion began: He blamed God and Eve for what happened.
Kids are sponges. They will soak every distortion up. Praise the Lord for His grace in our children’s life. If it wasn’t for His mercy, “The Lord of the Flies” would be our reality. Although the Lord is sovereign and has 100% control over everything, this does not mean that we step back and not teach our children. We need to teach and train them in the way of the Lord. We need to teach and train the boys to be men and girls to be women. It will be much more difficult (and hypocritical at times) if we don’t act or even know what true manhood and womanhood look like. I implore you to dig deeper, examine your heart, and become the man or woman God intended you to be…. its liberating. Your children and your children’s children will thank you.
“Shall a faultfinder contend with the Almighty? He who argues with God, let him answer it.” Job 40:2.

Nicole Leaman, Disciple Perspective 13 Comments [5/21/2017 2:10:28 PM]
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Submitted By: P.E.T.F

Quote# 127359

[Post named "Happy General Wolfe Appreciation Day 2014"]

As always on this, the laughably silly Queerbec holiday for St Jean the Baptist Third Edge of the Sword celebrates General Wolfe Appreciation Day. All hail the Conqueror who led the British to their well deserved victory!

Bonus Fete National content: Don't blame me, even the frogs are not celebrating St Jean Baptistê properly.

[NB: General James Wolfe crushed the French troops during the battle of the Plains of Abraham on 1759 and commited numerous war crimes against the civilian population]

Feynman and Coulter's Love Child, The Third Edge of the Sword 4 Comments [5/21/2017 2:09:32 PM]
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Shakespeare and abortion

William Shakespeare's masterpiece play Hamlet contains implied references to an attempted abortion by taking abortifacients and the subsequently tragic fate of both the mother (Ophelia) and father (Hamlet). Multiple lines in the play are unmistakable in suggesting this,[1] yet liberals never mention this while teaching about Hamlet in public school.

Shakespeare's portrayal of the wealthy, privileged Ophelia and Hamlet as borderline crazy and suicidal may reflect his disapproval of abortion, and his belief that fate is not kind to those who embrace unapologetically that path and outlook. Shakespeare himself was a devout Christian.

Feminists generally identify with Ophelia as being a victim of men, and if she attempted an abortion then that would be lockstep with feminist ideology. But the unnecessarily tragic outcome awaiting Ophelia after making her immoral choices is something feminists tend to be in denial about.

Andy Schlafly, Conservapedia 21 Comments [5/21/2017 2:07:51 PM]
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When President Trump claims there is a WITCH hunt out to get him - that can be taken literally.

Have Christians forgotten that witches have been trying to get him removed from office since he won the presidency? http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/lana-del-rey-joins-effort-to-defeat-trump-with-witchcraft-w468892

I'm curious how many Christians are praying for him to be successful - like we are commanded to do in 1 Timothy 2:1-3 - compared to how many have been nonchalantly hoping he'll fail, just like the witches are doing by consulting evil spirits against the man?

Funny how witches care more about politics than Christians do. What do witches know about the power of politics that Christians will regret NOT knowing in the near future? You cannot be a non-participant pacifist in the midst of a spiritual war!

Both Christians and witches claim to have supernatural power: theirs comes from evil spirits and ours comes from the Holy Spirit. Yet they seem far more dedicated to 'winning' through their demon power than Christians do with our Holy Ghost power! Jesus told His disciples:

"John said to Jesus, "Master, we saw someone using your name to cast out demons, but we told him to stop because he isn't in our group." But Jesus said, "Don't stop him! Anyone who is not against you is for you." John 9:49-50 NLT

Duh! I wish more believers understood this about Donald Trump. He's been very pro-Christian since he took the office. Instead it looks like the witches have cast an effective spell that even blinds the minds of many Christians.

This is why we must not be compromised in any way by sin or laziness. Sin allows an inroad for the enemy to bring confusion and harm against us. We don't all have to vote the same, but we should be clear-minded enough to see when God is moving through someone - whether we agree with them 100% or not.

It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out: if the demon-filled witches are against him, perhaps the Spirit-filled believer should be praying for him. That's just simple spiritual commonsense.

Pray for your President to win - not for his downfall. You never know: your destiny as a believer in this country may be directly tied to his success (or failure) as a President.

Mack Major, Facebook 20 Comments [5/21/2017 6:18:52 AM]
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If you are a kissless virgin, you will never experience 90% of human emotion.

The people who have kissed girls live in an entire different universe than us. Their lives are colorful and they wake up each day with a big smile on their face knowing they have the possibility to make their brain scatter with emotions.

You can't even begin to comprehend how they feel. You're locked in the tutorial mode of life forever.

Zen_Overlord, /r/incels 26 Comments [5/20/2017 11:46:37 PM]
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Secularism doesn't work. You call your site "Voice of Reason" but in fact most people don't have the intelligence to reason, so they shouldn't even try. Instead, they should respect tradition and religion. If they do try to reason, the result will be nothing more than rationalization of their instincts, because this is all that they are intellectually capable of doing. So then the question becomes how to make such people respect religion over their own dysfunctional minds. The first answer is to have a powerful alpha-male god since humans (and most primates) are wired to respect an alpha-male leader. I would say that the god of Islam is the most alpha of all gods. And the second answer is to provide religious exercises for people to remember their religion. The Old Testament provides the sabbath which is useful for intelligent people who can use this time to think, but is less useful for those of low intelligence. Again, Islam is optimal here with its 5 daily prayers which consist of repeatedly bowing before God, the act of bowing being the primary expression of submission for humans (and most primates). So I would say that Islam today isn't far from ideal, it just needs a few tweaks to make it less fatalistic.

fschmidt, Mikraite 12 Comments [5/20/2017 11:46:26 PM]
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Grace Kim Kwon:
Today's USA, the nation itself, is a violation against US Constitution by opposing the Christianity. Man is worthless when he attacks his own good conscience.

TheKingOfRhye:
Please cite exactly where it says in the US Constitution to not "oppose the Christianity."

Grace Kim Kwon:
Religious freedom means exclusively the maximum exercise of Christian religion. Americans knew no other religion.

Grace Kim Kwon, Christian News Network 31 Comments [5/20/2017 9:21:01 PM]
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The birth control hormones are getting in the waters and feminazis are raising boys on Ritalin so they become effeminate beta male cucks subservient to the feminazi agenda of eradicating God's natural hierarchy where WOMEN CANNOT TEACH MEN ANYTHING AND MUST STAY IN THE HOME! It is obvious that Swift is all about female empowerment and it's appalling because Jesus Christ isn't that long hair hippie guy depicted by the papists! Jesus Christ is almighty and righteous and our men need to be MANLY IN CHRIST and stop trying to act all effeminate and subservient like these hipster autistic nerds with their ponies and hentai and beards and man buns and rompers and fake affinity for science! "Men" are even wearing eyeliner and women's perfume nowadays while dykes and other feminazis are trampling all over them in defiance of God's natural law!

James Wilson, FSTDT 30 Comments [5/20/2017 9:20:51 PM]
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HOW TO IMPOSE A ONE-PARTY THEOCRACY IN BRITAIN

HOW TO ESTABLISH A BRITISH CALIPHATE IN ONE EASY STEP, WITHOUT CONVERTING A SINGLE SOUL

HOW TO DESTROY FEMINISM

HOW TO RETURN THE GOVERNMENT TO SANITY AND MORALITY

What is this first step?

The Koran is generally acknowledged to be a great work of literature, even by non-Muslims.

It is also said to be the directly revealed Word of God.

If that is so, it should be regarded as a contract between God and Man.

It promises to be a warning and a guide for mankind and warrants that its guidance will keep man peaceful and at peace with himself, but only if its directions are followed.

While it is said to be a religion of peace, it is also a religion of war – a war against evil and oppression, idolatry and irrationality, intoxication, usury, gambing and sexual licence.

This being so, it would benefit law students to study such a divine contract, whether or not they are Muslim as it would usefully add to their legal knowledge and drafting skills.

Even if Koranic knowledge were acquired reluctantly, just for the utilitarian purpose of passing a law exam and getting a law degree, it is very likely that the law student who goes on to becomes a legal practitioner will apply Koranic principles either consciously or unconsciously when interpreting and applying the law.

An example of this is seen in the case of Donoghue v Stevenson which promoted the Christian principle of love thy neighbour also found in The Old Testament in Leviticus. The Koran has a similar principle too.

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YUSUFALI: Serve Allah, and join not any partners with Him; and do good- to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, those in need, neighbours who are near, neighbours who are strangers, the companion by your side, the wayfarer (ye meet), and what your right hands possess: For Allah loveth not the arrogant, the vainglorious;-


PICKTHAL: And serve Allah. Ascribe no thing as partner unto Him. (Show) kindness unto parents, and unto near kindred, and orphans, and the needy, and unto the neighbour who is of kin (unto you) and the neighbour who is not of kin, and the fellow-traveller and the wayfarer and (the slaves) whom your right hands possess. Lo! Allah loveth not such as are proud and boastful,


SHAKIR: And serve Allah and do not associate any thing with Him and be good to the parents and to the near of kin and the orphans and the needy and the neighbor of (your) kin and the alien neighbor, and the companion in a journey and the wayfarer and those whom your right hands possess; surely Allah does not love him who is proud, boastful;



There will doubtless be skeptics and Islamophobes who will have to be persuaded of the wisdom of adopting such a course, which they will find objectionable and frightening.

To counter them, simply form a Koran Book Club and offer generous prizes to non-Muslims only for essays that confirm what has been said above.

The Caliphate should be fully mature in about two decades, I predict.

http://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.co.uk/search?q=Secular+Koranism


1. If Islam is Judaism Lite, Secular Koranism is Islam Lite.
2. Secular Koranism is the vaccination for Radical Islam. Think of Edward Jenner and his immunisation programme. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Jenner Secular Koranism is cow pox and Radical Islam is small pox.
3. The problem with Muslims is that they prefer the Hadith to the Koran, even as they acknowledge the Koran to be the revealed Word of God, while the Hadith was compiled by fallible humans.
4. Muslims cannot bring themselves to reject the Hadith where it is contradicted by the Koran for to do so would be considered heresy by most of their fellow Muslims.
5. What Islamophobes hate about Islam comes from the Hadith.
6. If the Koran says "all animals are equal" the Hadith says "but some animals are more equal than others".
7. The Koran is well-drafted enough to withstand a literal interpretation.
8. Thesis = Old Testament; Antithesis = New Testament; Synthesis = Koran.
9. The Koran has less harsh punishments than the Old Testament.
10. The hatred the West have for Islam is based mainly on cultural chauvinism and the belief that brown and backward people whom they have conquered cannot possibly have a better religion than Christianity.
11. Napoleon Hill, who wrote THINK AND GROW RICH, promoted Islam. http://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.co.uk/2009/03/think-and-grow-rich-author-napoleon.html
12. Man created God to protect him from the slut.
13. All the Abrahamic faiths promote the same moral precepts. The moral precepts promoted by the Abrahamic faiths bring about social cohesion, which protects your society from internal and external enemies.
14. Who are the internal enemies of a society? Sluts and socialists.
15. The patriarchy is maintained by the precepts of the Abrahamic faiths.
16. The matriarchy reasserts itself when the precepts of the Abrahamic faiths are abandoned.
17. All advanced societies are patriarchal, and all declining and primitive societies are matriarchal.
18. A patriarchy is a society that condones male promiscuity while a matriarchy is a society that condones female promiscuity.
19. Female promiscuity facilitates male promiscuity.
20. Male promiscuity is more easily checked by women being told not to be sluts.
21. A slut is a woman who has extramarital sex.
22. The evil the prohibition against extramarital sex was intended to prevent is widespread bastardy.
23. Widespread bastardy leads to widespread degeneracy and racial and national decline, leading eventually to civilisational extinction.
24. Only the Koran will save the West from feminism and allow it to go back to basics now.
25. To tolerate sluts means to tolerate bastards, to tolerate both means to tolerate a cancer growing within your society whose numbers grow exponentially. To say it is OK for women to be sluts means you are saying it is OK for your race and nation to breed an inferior, criminal, unproductive, degenerate and parasitical race within your race at the expense of the productive.
26. The defect of Christianity is that it requires a corrupt and corruptible priesthood who will interpret scripture to suit the political orthodoxy of the time, eg gay marriage.
27. The advantage of Islam is the Koran whose clearly-drafted precepts are easily translatable into legal principles.
28. The law restrains the extent of our immorality. "The people are the grass, the law the wind. When the wind blows, the grass will bend."
29. A legal system infused with Koranic principles can dispense with the need of for a corrupt and corruptible priesthood to maintain and promote morality.
30. Secular Koranism - a legal system and not a belief system - can be interpreted and applied by a non-Muslim judiciary.

Claire Khaw, The Voice of Reason 26 Comments [5/20/2017 3:36:30 AM]
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Franklin's Nightmare Award

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

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put mods that are actually red pilled on the JQ, or at least support a temporary fascist state to restore the republic. The US is supposed to be a secular, constitutional republic built on traditional justice, natural rights, and natural law. Those that believe in "social justice" and argue solely using bulverism, reject the social compact created by the white European men that wrote our constitution. Any belief or ideology that works to undermine this social compact is evil no matter how well-intentioned. without legal recourse or traditional justice, how do we combat the evil that has subverted our nation?

AfroCen, Reddit - r/OperationPol 12 Comments [5/20/2017 3:36:15 AM]
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Modern culture is evil. If you don't agree with this, let me save you some time and suggest that you stop reading here. This post discusses alternatives to modern culture on the assumption that you reject modern culture because it is evil. What are the alternatives to modern culture? Before discussing alternatives that I think can work, I will discuss alternatives that don't work.

Politics doesn't work. Moral people are an insignificant minority in all nations today. And never in history has a nation been made moral through politics. Politics is useful in a society formed by moral people. In such a society, politics can help implement the will of these moral people. This is how America worked before it became evil. But in an evil society, politics is just a contest for power, nothing more.

Modern Christianity doesn't work. Modern Christianity is all faith and no works, which means no morality. The main practical difference between a modern Christian and an atheist is that the modern Christian violates the third commandment while the atheist doesn't, making the atheist slightly less sinful than the modern Christian. I discussed in detail what went wrong with modern Christianity in The Rise and Fall of Christian Culture.

Modern Catholicism doesn't work. To a large degree, what went wrong with Protestantism has infected Catholicism. The current Pope is a total disaster. But Catholicism was essentially doomed by the Second Vatican Council which fully gave in to modern culture.

White nationalism doesn't work. No racial movement in history has succeeded without religious backing. White nationalists who want success should copy the most successful racial movement, namely Judaism. This means that white nationalists need to pick a religion for their movement. Until they do so, they are a hopeless bunch.

That completes the important options that don't work. Now let's consider options that work. History shows that all good cultures are supported by a good religion. How can one judge if a religion is good and strong enough to resist modern culture? One superficial way to judge that I have found to be very effective is just to ask whether men and women sit separately during religious service. Religions that have maintained this separation have shown that they are strong enough to resist modern culture

Orthodox Judaism works well if you are a racist jew. I am jewish but not racist, so Judaism doesn't work for me. For non-jewish racists, Orthodox Judaism is a model well worth copying.

Orthodox Christianity may work in some conditions. Mainstream Orthodox Christianity does not work in the West because it is too weak of a religion to withstand modern culture. This can be seen by the fact that the sexes are mixed in service. Historically, Orthodox Christianity has always partnered with a government that supports it, so this seems to be the condition in which it works. Currently, the obvious candidate is Orthodox Christianity in Russia where it has government backing. I haven't been to Russia, so I can't say for sure how well this works, but I think this is an option well worth investigating for Christians.

True Orthodox Christianity is a variant of Orthodox Christianity that looks interesting and may actually work in the West. But it is small and its future is uncertain. Here is a very good set of videos explaining the idea.

Conservative Mennonism is an excellent alternative for Christians. All of traditional Anabaptism is sound, but the conservative Mennonites seem to have found the optimal balance. They don't reject all modern technology as Old Order Anabaptists do (like the Amish), but they still do a good job keeping modern culture out. They are serious Christians, serious about following Jesus's teachings. The book Brethren Thinking written by an unconventional Old Order Anabaptist provides a highly intelligent introduction to Anabaptist thinking. The book An Introduction to Old Order and Conservative Mennonite Groups provides a good overview of the Mennonite variants. I specifically recommend the Mennonite groups classified as "Ultra-Conservatives" on page 162 of this book. You can find a Mennonite church near you using this map. If you have any more questions about Mennonites, you can ask on this Mennonite forum.

Islam is an alternative worth investigating. While Islam has issues today, it has worked well in the past. And it still at least upholds basic moral traditions. I believe that Islam is the religion that is most likely to have a reformation and become the next successful culture. But to judge Islam for yourself, you should visit your local mosque and read the Quran.

Mikraite is the alternative that I have chosen. None of the above options work for me because I am not a jewish racist and not Christian. So I worked with some like-minded people to form a moral religion based on the Old Testament. You can read more in What is a Mikraite?.

fschmidt, Mikraite 22 Comments [5/20/2017 1:47:50 AM]
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Quote# 127326

Incels of modern culture deserve no sympathy

Modern culture is the cause of incel. So if you remain in modern culture, then you deserve no sympathy. Whine all you want, then suffer and die. I don't care. But if you are a non-moron, then reject modern culture and solve incel by looking abroad.

fschmidt, /r/incels 15 Comments [5/20/2017 1:47:48 AM]
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