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Quote# 106866

Commenter Axum/Mixed race had once asked me about my views on mixed raced people. This post will respond to that question and also address the broader issue of immigration for the sake of perspective. Let me begin by saying that I am not opposed to interracial relationships as several of my cousins (who live in the west) are either engaged to, or are married to white spouses. All of them seem quite content and some of them have kids that look very white. Having said that, I still think that interracial relationships should not be encouraged. While banning the practice outright would infringe on people’s personal freedoms, I doubt that encouraging the practice is prudent either. In Canada, interracial couples form about 4% of the total national population of couples. These figures are double in the liberal cities of Toronto and Vancouver and this isn’t entirely surprising given the high concentration of visible minorities present there.

The Multi-Cult celebrates these relationships as trendy and hip where photographs of smiling interracial couples are plastered over dismal statistics of above average divorce rates for this demographic group. I haven’t been able to find statistics for Canada, but in the US it appears that interracial relationships involving non white men married to white women are far more likely to fail by the 10th year of marriage whereas relationships involving white men married to Asian women are the least vulnerable. This isn’t unexpected given how dysfunctional white women are due to 6 decades of feminist programming.

During one of our phone conversations Bay Area Guy mentioned that certain whites weren’t concerned with the browning of America and the rationale behind this view is that so long as non whites absorb western culture they will be able to sustain it. I disagree with this argument because survival has intrinsic value and whites shouldn’t have to justify the preservation of their race. In most cases, national identity is based on racial identity and North America’s racial character is white.

North America’s racial character needs to be preserved. Non white immigrants cannot fully relate to the histories and heritage of North American culture. This will not change even if these non whites marry into white families. I’ve noticed very few South Asians don the familiar red poppy on remembrance day (including myself I confess) and I can’t blame them as that wasn’t their war. A former (South Asian) commenter on Robert Lindsay’s blog (now banned) insisted that one of the greatest things about Western culture was feminism! There is no way she could relate to America’s struggle for independence from the British, or America’s disdain for big government rooted in Jefferson’s interpretation of Locke. Small government translates into individual freedom, which is a far cry from the bloated nanny state that feminists masturbate over. How can these non white immigrants relate to the achievements of the US and Canada when their ancestors contributed nothing to them? No matter how Westernized they may appear to be, these immigrants and their children cannot relate to the philosophical, historical, and religious currents (from Thales to Kant and beyond) that have shaped the modern Western individual.

Individual autonomy is a key western value and hence practices such as interracial marriage shouldn’t be banned but shouldn’t be encouraged either. As long as the individuals who marry outside their ethnic groups remain a minority, there should be no problem. The same goes for Whites converting to Islam and Hinduism. Interracial couples shouldn’t be vilified but their actions should never be accepted as mainstream. In a traditional healthy society people naturally gravitate towards heterosexual endogamy, but sadly, liberal programs and policies have deleterious effects on society’s health. This is why it is imperative that people boycott the mass media to insulate themselves from harmful signals and programming.

Pat Buchanan once said that his grandparents wouldn’t recognize the America he currently lives in. There’s something profound about that statement that can be summarized in one word: Continuity. America and Canada can only be saved by those whose collective memories are rooted in North American history. The immigrant experience can be summed up in another word: displacement. We can’t expect immigrants to make any meaningful cultural contribution or help reverse the prevailing cultural decay; and thus the imperative to preserve white identity and interests takes on a vital urgency. That being said I must point out that I find the term “white identity” to be somewhat problematic as it includes Eastern and Mediterranean Europeans whereas the term traditionally denoted Saxons and Germans (The real architects of Canadian and American heritages). As a Paleoconservative I believe in preserving the Anglo-Saxon character of Canada and America but that is a topic for a future post.

I sincerely hope that sanity prevails and that Canada and the US rethink their suicidal immigration policies. God bless Canada and America.

Dota, Occident Invicta 14 Comments [3/6/2015 4:20:24 AM]
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Quote# 106862

It wasn’t until my siblings and I were fully grown that I realized the necessity of investing in your sons. I come from a family of three children, with me being that last in line with two older sisters. Growing up, I’d like to think that we were all raised rather fairly, without too much favoritism towards any one of us in particular.

But like most families, much of the preparation for raising children to become adults starts with the oldest child, and then down to the others. By the time both of my sisters had started college and had strained my parents financially, it was my turn to go to school and there wasn’t much help my parents could offer anymore; I had to work and pay for myself.

Now, I don’t want this to come off as a sob story; “Oh, poor me who had to pay for my own education!” But the results of the money my parents invested in my sisters first compared to their outcomes in life really struck me as to why it is important to invest in your son’s endeavors.

A Case Study

My oldest sister, the star child of the group with straight As throughout school, ultimately ended up getting a degree in journalism (no surprise in today’s climate) and has spent the last decade bouncing between odd jobs. By the saving grace of her recent fiancée (an engineer), she now lives comfortably doing whatever she pleases as he works as the breadwinner.

The thousands of dollars that went to her education have ultimately become a waste, and she seems to not have a care in the world about it. She recently lamented that she was “bored with life;” Oh, how hard it must be to have a man taking care of all of your bills while you sit around the house and aren’t out on the streets.

My next sister was the wild child. We were all surprised when she chose to go to college, but in the typical female-child mentality, she decided to get a degree in fashion design. Somewhere down the line, she became a repulsive hairy-armpit overweight vegan, and I shit you not, she now works as a vet tech taking care of cats. Obviously she had no backup plan when her dreams of being a fashionista were doomed to fail.


I guess the point is, it doesn’t matter what your daughters are going to do. The wild child is ultimately going to end up making poor choices and failing you as a parent, and even your little princess with the most promise will ultimately end up marrying a man who will turn her into a housewife anyway.

So this is why you should invest in your sons. I worked to save money, I learned two different languages, I paid for my own college education (international business), and I’ve spent the last five years living in both Tokyo, Japan and Seoul, South Korea while visiting another dozen countries to boot.

I can only wonder how much easier this process of getting to where I want in life would have been if only my parents had the foresight to understand how their daughters would turn out. Invest in your sons. They’ll get educations, they’ll open businesses, they’ll create wealth for themselves and travel and live the life of men with the world in the palm of their hands. Your daughters will become housewives at best, cat ladies at worst.

Dylan Frost, Return of Kings 24 Comments [3/6/2015 4:09:24 AM]
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Quote# 106860

Sen. Steve Vick, R-Dalton Gardens, says he'll walk out if a Hindu prayer opens the Idaho Senate on Tuesday morning.

"They have a caste system," Vick said. "They worship cows."

He acknowledged that the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution allows any kind of prayer, but said he thinks the Hindu one shouldn't be allowed to open the Senate, as the United States was "built on the Judeo-Christian not only religion but work ethic, and I don't want to see that undermined."

"I'm very supportive of the way this country was built, and I don't want us to move away from it," Vick said.


Vick took to social media over the weekend to vent his displeasure about the plan for a Hindu prayer in the Senate, telling his Facebook followers, "I am working to get it stopped."

He told The Spokesman-Review on Monday he's had strong support from his North Idaho constituents for his stand.

"They've all been supportive of the effort to not allow the Hindu prayer in the Senate chambers," he said.

"It goes back to my concern about the way this country was built, if you compare it to a country that was built on the Hindu faith," Vick said.

He said allowing the prayer could "send a message we're not happy with the way America is."

Idaho State Senator Steve Vick, The Idaho Statesman 27 Comments [3/6/2015 4:08:32 AM]
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Quote# 106857

One of the biggest unrecognized and subtle sources of PORNOGRAPHY in America are it's catalogs that display women in their underwear, negligees, etc. It is sinful for any woman to take off her clothes, and allow people to take pictures of her in her underwear, to showcase in magazines. Could you imagine a company that advertises women's underwear by sending a woman into your personal home? She strips down to her underwear, and then posses in front of your husband, trying to sell you some clothes. Think of the adulterous thoughts, the lasciviousness, and the damage being done to your marriage and home. No wonder the divorce rate is over 50%. No wonder sexual sins are running rampant. No wonder child-pornography is a $20,000,000,000 a year industry. Some of today's clothing catalogs even present young girls in provocative attire, with imprudent looks, and luring photography.

There is not a husband in America who is not spiritually attacked by such lewd and inappropriate type catalogs left laying around the home. The wise and godly wife will rid her home of such demonic catalogs to help her husband spiritually. It's difficult enough for a man to maintain a clean mind nowadays, why would you want to make it even harder for your husband by leaving such filth lying around? Truly, the love of money is the root of all evil (1st Timothy 6:10). Companies are so greedy to make money, that they have absolutely no reservations about promoting their pornography. Some people might term it "soft" pornography; BUT, pornography is pornography!!! There's no such thing as a "white lie," all lying is horribly sinful. There's no such thing as "white witchcraft" (Wicca), all witchcraft is an abomination to God. And there's no such thing as "soft porn," all pornography is demonic, because it stirs unholy desires. Marriage is the only acceptable outlet for one's sexual desires (Hebrews 13:4).

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 25 Comments [3/6/2015 4:06:04 AM]
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Quote# 106856

Ben Carson, a retired neurosurgeon and possible 2016 Republican presidential candidate, says he believes homosexuality is a choice. His proof? Prison.

"A lot of people who go into prison go into prison straight," Carson said in an interview with CNN Wednesday. "And when they come out, they're gay. So, did something happen while they were in there? Ask yourself that question."

Ben Carson, Yahoo News 19 Comments [3/6/2015 4:05:51 AM]
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Quote# 106854

Televangelist Pat Robertson said on Monday that people who smoked marijuana, used cocaine or consumed alcohol had been enslaved by vegetables.

“God gave you and me as human beings authority, he gave us dominion over everything on this Earth,” the TV preacher explained on Monday’s 700 Club. “Over all the animals, all the snakes, all the birds, all the plants, all the vegetables.”

“Cocaine is the product of a vegetable, alcohol is the product of a vegetable, marijuana is a vegetable,” he continued. “And yet, people are enslaved to vegetables. And you were made in the image of God. God made you in his image to reign and rule with him. He gave you incredible authority.”

“Why would you become a slave to a vegetable? Why? Why would you do it.?

Robertson said that he had “seen a lot of stuff” in his lifetime so he understood that people had a lot of problems, “but God Almighty can deliver you from the bondage of your addiction.”

“Your slavery to vegetables, he can set you free,” he insisted.

Pat Robertson, Raw Story 30 Comments [3/6/2015 4:03:46 AM]
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Quote# 106853

Sources/Citations Where Homosexuals Admit Their Child Molestation Epidemic

Filthy homosexual militants used to be quite in your face about their admitted child molestation epidemic till Madsen Avenue marketers and homos Marshal Kirk and Hunter Madsen came along and authored the Homosexual Agenda marketing and propaganda manifestos "Overhauling Straight America" and "After the Ball...", the first available online and the second from Amazon books.

Kirk and Madsen instructed the homosexual extremist movement to repackage their filth and sanitize their image. They bragged; "First let the camel get his nose inside the tent--only later his unsightly derriere!".

Kirk and Madsen are the guys who came up with the Born Gay hoax, which they admit is a hoax, but they instructed the homo movement that; “To suggest in public that homosexuality might be chosen is to open the can of worms labeled ‘moral choices and sin’ and give the religious intransigents a stick to beat us with. "

You can read the entire genesis of the homosexual militants "Born Gay" hoax here

Kirk and Madsen successfully convinced the homosexualist movement to cast themselves as victims in need of sympathy instead of the aggressors attackers they are.

As part of that, Kirk and Madsen successfully instructed the homosexualist movement to downplay and outright deny their child molestation epidemic, but only at first, till the homosexualist movement succeeds in eliminating all age of consent laws and mainstreaming child molestation as they are feverishly working to do.

Kirk and Madsen put this disgusting admission into their Homosexual Agenda manifesto: "It almost goes without saying that groups on the farthest margin of acceptability such as NAMBLA, must play no part at all in such a campaign: suspected child-molesters will never look like victims."

"Acceptability"?! Really?!!!!

Now you know why the homosexualist movement now downplays and denies their child molestation epidemic.

And if someone exposes the link? Using scripted "jamming" tactics from the Homosexual Agenda like "You must be closeted", they are bashed, attacked, bullied, harassed, terrorized, threatened with job loss, and threatened with death.

Before Kirk and Madsen schemed up their Homosexual Agenda psy-ops manifesto, there were a bewildering array of public admissions in homosexual publications of the inextricable link between homosexuality and child molestation. These filthy deviant sex pervert monsters even go so far as to publicly call child molesters their "prophets".

VoiceofSanity, LiveLeak 12 Comments [3/6/2015 4:03:31 AM]
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Quote# 106849

Now, not only does God’s Word explain the world as it is today, but observational science confirms it. Also, the Bible makes it clear that if we search after truth and really want to know God, He will reveal himself to us. And He will make clear the free gift of salvation that He offers to us.

"My son, if you receive my words, And treasure my commands within you, So that you incline your ear to wisdom, And apply your heart to understanding; Yes, if you cry out for discernment, And> lift up your voice for understanding, If you seek her as silver, And search for her as for hidden treasures; Then you will understand the fear of the LORD, And find the knowledge of God. For the LORD gives wisdom; From His mouth come knowledge and understanding" (Proverbs 2:1–6)

"But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him." (Hebrews 11:6)

Dawkins Is Against Indoctrination . . . Really?

Recently atheist Richard Dawkins stated, “There is a balancing act and you have to balance the rights of parents and the rights of children and I think the balance has swung too far towards parents.” Of course, what Dawkins means by this is that parents have been given too much of a right to teach their children their own religion. He goes on to say, “Children do need to be protected so that they can have a proper education and not be indoctrinated in whatever religion their parents happen to have been brought up in.” So children need to be “protected” from religion by having a “proper education” so they won’t be “indoctrinated.” But Dawkins believes that children should be taught evolutionary naturalism as fact. He wants his religion of naturalism imposed on them. So children shouldn’t be taught religion by their parents—they should be taught the religion of atheism by their teachers! All Dawkins is advocating is replacing one religion with another religion. You can’t raise or educate children “neutrally.” There is no neutrality! When you take away supposed “religion” (which usually means Christianity when Dawkins uses that word), then all you have done is replaced it with another religion—the religion secular humanism.

In an article for Time magazine, Dawkins writes, “Religious labels [on children] . . . at very least . . . negates the ideal, held dear by all decent educationists, that children should be taught to think for themselves.” So Dawkins thinks that children should be taught to think for themselves? Should children be allowed to think for themselves when crossing a road, or when jumping into a swimming pool, or when putting their hand on a hot plate on the stove? Should children be potty trained or just allowed to think for themselves?

Does Dawkins mean that children should be taught the major problems with evolution? Does this mean that children should be shown the evidence that supports the Bible’s history? Does this mean that children should learn the difference between historical and observational science? Dawkins definitely wouldn’t think so! By writing that “children should be taught to think for themselves,” what he really means is that children should be exclusively taught a religion of atheistic, evolutionary naturalism—and no other options. This is not education or teaching kids to think through issues for themselves—it’s indoctrination, but indoctrination in a false religion! So Dawkins wants to do the very thing that he says parents shouldn’t do!

Dawkins also writes, “Indoctrinating your opinions into the vulnerable minds of your children is bad enough.” So Dawkins thinks that indoctrinating children is wrong. Yet he wants to do that very thing! He just wants to make sure that children are only taught his religion! Dawkins is being utterly inconsistent.

Ken Ham, Around The World with Ken Ham 24 Comments [3/6/2015 4:00:26 AM]
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Quote# 106848

Not at all, but you miss the point. Something exists as soon as it can be conceived. If something does not exist, we would be unable to describe it. Therefore, atheist on this forum have asserted that God exists as an idea, but he has nothing to do with the universe, it's creations which includes man. That we are manifest from evolution. Is that right? Or do you want to add to this?

Tim S, Amazon Atheist Forum 22 Comments [3/6/2015 4:00:14 AM]
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Quote# 106847

Beg to disagree. If Barry isn’t the Manchurian candidate, what would one look like? He’s just not actually owned and operated by any particular foreign power, but a conglomeration of philosophies that are inimical to the US. Most of what he does makes sense if you assume he hates the following.

1. He’s Muslim. He was raised Muslim, after all. He may not be devout, but he’s still obviously pro-Muslim. It’s in his autobiography, after all. This comes out mostly as a hatred of Israel. He was all for a Muslim Brotherhood dominated Egypt, but is quite cool on the more secular regime that threw them out. The Muslim Brotherhood ran on a major platform item of “Death to Israel.” And a nuclear Iran is primarily a threat to Israel. Secondarily a threat to the entire rest of the world, but Barry doesn’t look that far forward. Why don’t any of the Mullahs seem to be upset about him “converting” and betraying the One True Faith ™?

2. He’s Socialist. As were all of his friends and relatives growing up. I read Atlas Shrugged for the first time during his first year as President, and kept telling my wife “I just saw this in the news!” Remember the Mao ornaments on the White House Christmas tree the first year in office?

3. He’s Black. He hates whites. He’s not even subtle about it. “The cops acted stupidly.” “If I had a son.” Etc, ad nauseum, et Eric Holder’s (anti-)Justice Department. Talk to some of the people in the Civil Rights division, if you want to hear some of the stories. Part of this is simply racism, part of it is hatred of western culture, and America in particular. See also: Rev. Wright.

He’s been refreshingly honest, in his unguarded moments. His goal is “the fundamental transformation of America,” and he’s achieved more toward his goals than any other president in generations.

McChuck, According To Hoyt 11 Comments [3/6/2015 3:58:11 AM]
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Quote# 106846

A rough translation of the quiz, kindly sent in by the person who also showed [Shmarya Rosenberg] the image of the quiz. ([Shmarya Rosenberg] edited the translation slightly to make the grammar consistent):

1. Why does a Heavenly voice announce that this girl will belong to that man?

Correct answer: Because God decides who is the correct person for each person to marry.

2. Then why don't we know who our right marriage partner is? [I.e., why don’t we hear that Heavenly voice ourselves or have some other way to know for sure who are correct God-chosen spouse is?]

Correct answer: Because God does great miracles that we don't know the details of.

3. Why was each person created in this world?

Correct answer: To recite blessings, to pray to God, to study Torah, and to serve.

4. Explain what the [proper] role of a woman in this world is based on the verse "it is not good for man to be alone, I [God] will create him a helpmate.”

Correct answer: To ensure that her husband doesn't lack anything.

5. Why does man need a “helpmate”?

Correct answer: Because his job is to study Torah and therefore he can't [spend time] doing women’s work.

Give examples of how a woman encourages her husband and makes him happy:

1. She smiles at him
2. She is nice to him
3. She takes care of all his needs

6. Is a man who lives without a wife a complete human being? What is lacking in him? Quote what we cited above.

Correct answer: [The student did not answer this question.]

7. Explain why a woman who prepares food and clothing for her husband is “giving light to his eyes" and "puts him back on his feet.”

Correct answer: Because this is her job.

8. Explain the words of Rabbanit Kanievsky [who said], "with her husband, [a woman should speak and interact] only with sweetness.”

Correct answer: [The student did not answer this question.]

9. What is the example of a bad woman the Babylonian Talmud gives?

Correct answer: A woman who sets the table and decorates it, who prepares food, and then her husband enters the room, and she closes the door. [I’m not familiar with this reference or have forgotten it, but it appears to refer to a woman encouraging or asking for sex. – [Shmarya Rosenberg]]

[The image of the test is available in the link to the source of the quote - First-person pronouns have been replaced by the blogmaster's name]

Unnamed Israeli Haredi girls' school, Failed Messiah 13 Comments [3/6/2015 3:58:05 AM]
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Quote# 106845


Penal Code section 39

a) The abominable crime against nature known as buggery, called also sodomy, is a monstrous evil that Almighty God, giver of freedom and liberty, commands us to suppress on pain of our utter destruction even as he overthrew Sodom and Gomorrha.

b) Seeing that it is better that offenders should die rather than that all of us should be killed by God's just wrath against us for the folly of tolerating-wickedness in our midst, the People of California wisely command, in the fear of God, that any person who willingly touches another person of the same gender for purposes of sexual gratification be put to death by bullets to the head or by any other convenient method.

c) No person shall distribute, perform, or transmit sodomistic propaganda directly or indirectly by any means to any person under the age of majority. Sodomistic propaganda is defined as anything aimed at creating an interest in or an acceptance of human sexual relations other than between a man and a woman. Every offender shall be fined $1 million per occurrence, and/or imprisoned up to 10 years, and/or expelled from the boundaries of the state of California for up to life.

d) No person shall serve in any public office, nor serve in public employment, nor enjoy any public benefit, who is a sodomite or who espouses sodomistic propaganda or who belongs to any group that does.

e) This law is effective immediately and shall not be rendered ineffective nor invalidated by any court, state or federal, until heard by a quorum of the Supreme Court of California consisting only of judges who are neither sodomites nor subject to disqualification hereunder.

f) The state has an affirmative duty to defend and enforce this law as written, and every member of the public has standing to seek its enforcement and obtain reimbursement for all costs and attorney's fees in so doing, and further, should the state persist in inaction over 1 year after due notice, the general public is empowered and deputized to execute all the provisions hereunder extra-judicially, immune from any charge and indemnified by the state against any and all liability.

g) This law shall be known as "The Sodomite Suppression Act" and be numbered as section 39 in Title 3 of the Penal Code, pertaining to offences against the sovereignty of the state. The text shall be prominently posted in every public school classroom. All laws in conflict with this law are to that extent invalid.

Matt McLaughlin, California Ballot Initiative Proposal 23 Comments [3/6/2015 3:57:26 AM]
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Quote# 106836

One of the men convicted for raping and killing a woman in a shocking and brutal 2012 gang attack on a New Delhi bus said in a TV documentary that if their victim had not fought back she would not have been killed.

Instead, the 23-year-old woman should have remained silent, said Mukesh Singh, who was driving the bus when the woman was attacked.

“Then they would have dropped her off after ‘doing her,’” he said in a documentary being released next week. The filmmakers released transcripts of the interview, which was recorded in 2013, today.

Singh and three other attackers were convicted in a fast-track court in 2013. The appeals against their death sentences are pending in the Supreme Court.

“A girl is far more responsible for rape than a boy,” he said, according to the transcripts. “A decent girl won’t roam around at 9 o’clock at night .... Housework and housekeeping is for girls, not roaming in discos and bars at night doing wrong things, wearing wrong clothes.”


In the interview, Singh suggested that the attack was to teach the woman and her male friend a lesson that they should not have been out late at night.

He also reiterated that rape victims should not fight back: “She should just be silent and allow the rape.”

He also said that the death penalty would make things even more dangerous for women: “Now when they rape, they won’t leave the girl like we did. They will kill her.”

Mukesh Singh, New Straits Times 47 Comments [3/5/2015 6:24:20 PM]
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Quote# 106835

Could God have prevented the Holocaust? Yes, He could have. He could also have prevented Stalin’s massacres in the U.S.S.R., the Spanish Inquisition’s torture of dissidents, and Nero’s reign of terror. In each case, God allowed evil men to exercise a certain amount of power for a short period of time.

Ultimately, we do not know the reasons for what God allows. His ways and thoughts are infinitely higher than ours (Isaiah 55:8-9). His sovereign plan takes in the whole scope of history, past, present, and future, encompassing every possible course of action, every cause and effect, every potentiality, and every contingency. There is no way we could possibly fathom the intricacies of His design. By faith, we trust that His plan is the best plan possible for restoring fallen humanity and a cursed world to righteousness and blessing.

But we can understand this: God’s permission is not the same as His approval. God permitted Adam to eat of the forbidden tree, but He did not approve of the action. In the same way, God’s allowing the Holocaust in no way suggests His approval of it. God is grieved by the sinfulness of man and the hardness of his heart (Genesis 6:6; Mark 3:5).

We also know that God has done everything possible to redeem us from the sin which would destroy us. He gave His only Son, who sacrificed His life for our sin and took our penalty. All who turn to Jesus Christ in faith are saved. The sin in this world, and horrors such as the Holocaust, are a direct result of mankind’s continued rebellion against God.

Got Questions Ministries, GotQuestions.org 45 Comments [3/5/2015 4:24:48 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris
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Quote# 106831

Aleksander Dugin, Russia’s most influential political philosopher, explains why Russia should take Pussy Riot’s provocation seriously, calling it part of an information war and an effort to subjugate Russia to external forces.

Dugin argues that the act was calculated to strike at the heart of both the secular and spiritual base of Russian society. As for Pussy Riot themselves, he calls them:

" …porno-hooligans, blasphemers, and simply obscene, immoral and worthless individuals"

His arguments are esoteric, and not entirely applicable to the West, but he gives us a pretty clear indication that Russia, and probably the rest of the world, is beginning to catch on to the threat posed by radical assaults on tradition hidden in the guise of gender liberation, or whatever Pussy Riot is claiming it stands for.

Interestingly, Dugin also claims that:

" …the West has destroyed its own tradition, its own empires, and its own religion, and is now dealing with the rest of the world."


Food for thought.

W. F. Price, The Spearhead 21 Comments [3/5/2015 4:22:20 AM]
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Quote# 106828

a partial list of characteristics shared by hobbits and trans men

- small

- whiny

- boring

- silly names

- insular

- weak

- cowardly

- lots of boring movies made about them

lzbn, One of the Bad Ones 29 Comments [3/5/2015 4:19:55 AM]
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Quote# 106827

Implying trans men face any sort of trans based oppression, or are marginalized in anyway for being a trans man (not counting class, race, able bodied etc) is done directly at the expense of trans womyn

manicdepressivebaeddel, New Face of Fear 23 Comments [3/5/2015 4:19:45 AM]
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Quote# 106826

["CAFAB" refers to people who were assigned female at birth (i.e., trans men) and "CAMAB" refers to people who were assigned male at birth (i.e., trans women).]

When people talk about sexuality and gender being fluid, I tend to cringe a little.
Like, gender being fluid is a privilege only CAFAB people have. They tend to view gender as a glittery playground when they can pick different gender flowers at their own whim.
While CAMAB trans people view gender more like a field covered in thumbtacks, each step they take is prickly and painful and the more they walk through it the more they are likely to bleed out.

And with sexuality like, I think it completely ignores the role that compulsory heterosexuality has on womyn, and how discovering themselves and working though patriarchal standards has more to do with it than any sort of fluidity.

Anyway basically i’m saying that gender and sexuality aren’t really fluid and saying so is privileged and done at the expense of trans womyn and lesbians

manicdepressivebaeddel, New Face of Fear 25 Comments [3/5/2015 4:19:29 AM]
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Quote# 106825

It's all part of a big plan by the elites, they broke up our homes and ruined our women with feminism, they got our kids in the gov't schools and daycare when we prostituted our wives out to go work for another man, now we have "gay marriage" [sic], and we have incessant attacks on whiteness, Christianity, and anything good, true and beautiful.

The first step is realizing the play being run, I'm not trying to wax Alex Jonesish here but there is a play being run against us. When people hear the elites talk about a "New World Order" we think that just has to do with world gov't, it's bigger than that. They are reshaping culture to no longer have any identity, so that we are just pliable mush who watch "Dancing With the Stars" and "Ellen".

That's why the borders won't be closed, that's why BET exists, that's why the universities are just liberal mind laundries, that's why there are homos all over the tv now, that's why diversity is constantly pushed.

Douglas Quaid, American Renaissance 33 Comments [3/5/2015 4:18:27 AM]
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Submitted By: HEIL SATAN
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Quote# 106816

God says he wants young women to get married to a man, bear children, guide the house and then keep the dirty-laundry in the family. God specifically commands wives to avoid doing anything that will give people reason to judge and criticize. So many young wives go running to the neighbor's house when there's a marital argument, then the neighbor's take sides, call the police and you've got a 3-ring circus going. Ladies, you need to learn to take a walk when you're angry, and don't going crying on someone's shoulder, because they will ruin your marriage if you let them. People are destructive. It's not their marriage, so they've got nothing to lose. I'm so sick and tired of busy-bodies minding other people's business. If you want people to help ruin your marriage, there are millions of them standing in line waiting to do so. All they're waiting for is a foolish wife with a bitter heart whose sinful enough to abandon her marriage vows and quit. We are living in a world of fools. Don't throw your marriage away.

Watch Your Mouth Ladies

And another thing ladies, watch your mouth. More husbands snap because of a wife's big mouth than anything else. I remember a story in the news many years ago when I lived in Chicago. The incident happened in one of the suburbs. An elderly couple were sitting in their old car and the man's wife made some comment about their neighbor's brand new car. The man snapped, pressed the gas pedal and drove their car into the neighbor's swimming pool. When the police and fire department came, they found the couple alive sitting at the bottom of the pool underwater. A woman's mouth can really make a man upset.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 43 Comments [3/5/2015 4:11:27 AM]
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Quote# 106813

The battle against gay marriage will ultimately be lost (like the battle against abortion) unless the church and the culture return to the absolute authority beginning in Genesis. Then and only then will there be a true foundation for the correct doctrine of marriage—one man for one woman for life.

Ken Ham, Facebook 33 Comments [3/5/2015 4:09:24 AM]
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Submitted By: Nemo
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Quote# 106812

We make no apologies that we start from the position that the Bible is the history book of the universe. Yes, we have assumptions and presuppositions, such as the Bible is God’s Word and, because it was written by a perfect God, it is perfectly true and reliable. But secularists also have assumptions and presuppositions! They assume that life arose naturalistically, that supernatural explanations are not possible, that the universe is billions of years old, and that God does not exist. This is a religion! A religion of purposeless, meaningless, naturalistic atheism.

Ken Ham, Facebook 32 Comments [3/5/2015 4:07:45 AM]
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Submitted By: Nemo
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Quote# 106811

“Are you talking of the Christian God? The one that is meant to be 'all loving'?” Seth Istoga

It is common among unscrupulous debaters to create a “straw-man,” easily rip it apart, and run off declaring yourself the winner.

However, this isn’t about winning or losing a debate. It’s about where someone will spend eternity, so these issues should be addressed.

As Christians, we often have to put up with our beliefs being misrepresented through straw-man arguments, and this gentlemen has a misrepresentation in each sentence.

We are not talking about “the Christian God.” We are talking about the one and only Creator. There is only one God, and the First of the Ten Commandments begins with “You shall have no other gods before me.” Since then, man has made up millions of other gods (Hinduism has 450,000,000).

The second straw-man is to say that God is “all loving.” Nowhere in the Bible does it say such a thing. God is love and mercy, but He’s also justice and truth. To say that He is all loving is to create another god. It’s like a vicious murderer believing that the judge before whom he stands condemned, will let him go because he is “all loving.” Such a thought is ridiculous.

If a judge is a good judge, he will see to it that a murderer gets exactly what he deserves. The best of us deserve Hell in the eyes of our holy Creator, but the Scriptures tell us that God is rich in mercy and offers us Heaven.

Ray Comfort, Facebook 42 Comments [3/5/2015 4:07:41 AM]
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Submitted By: Nemo
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Quote# 106807

“Pastor, we are here to request that you marry us in your church. When can we schedule the ceremony?”

“But, first gentlemen (or, alternatively, ladies), I must say that I don’t think we have ever met and I don’t recall seeing you at our Sunday services.”

“No, we don’t belong to your church, but we are demanding that you perform our marriage, just as you do for straight couples. Do you have a problem with that?”

“Well, yes, in fact I do have a problem with marrying you, with all due respect. Our church is based upon and ruled by The Bible. God created marriage between a man and a woman. He decided the issue of marriage 6,000 years ago. We’ll not be contradicting what God has said. We….”

“Stop right there, Pastor. In case you haven’t noticed, the supreme law of the land now is that the states must issue marriage permits to same sex partners. So, therefore….”

“Let me stop you, sirs. We are not the state. We are a private church whose head is Jesus Christ. We will not bow to any order that we violate God’s word in how we operate our church.”

“Are you living in the dark ages, Pastor? Didn’t you follow the test cases over the last two years where florists and caterers who refused to do business with same sex couples were fined and even had their property seized? You didn’t speak up and organize then, did you? Your church uses the public streets and utilities. Your church gets special tax treatment by the state. Your….”

“Taxes? What do taxes have to do with….”

“You don’t pay property taxes. Your congregation gets to deduct their contributions to you. You have become creatures of the state. You can’t discriminate against us any more than you can discriminate against people based on their race.”

“But, uh, we just won’t do it. We won’t marry you in this church. That’s it. Flat. End of discussion. This meeting is over. I’ll show you the door.”

“Fine, sir, fine. We’ll leave, but you will soon learn how this country has changed. The next people who will contact you will be agents of the Department of Justice. Churches which refuse to comply with the law will soon find that either the church will obey the law or the pastor will be jailed, and probably the board of elders. If you still refuse to obey the law, the church will be closed by court order. We can’t allow homophobia to exist in this community. You’ll hear from the federal government, soon. Very soon.”

Steve Quayle, SteveQuayle.com 28 Comments [3/5/2015 4:06:41 AM]
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Submitted By: AJ Williams
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Quote# 106805

[From an article titled "I Was There When the World Went Mad"]

I heard it with my own ears. If I believe I'm a woman, even though I'm a male in every other way, then I'm a woman and can use the women's restroom. And if I believe I'm a horse, I can use the stable. After all I'm not hurting anyone.

I heard it with my own ears.

The LGBT protesters in Charlotte, North Carolina, were chanting, "Hey, hey, ho, ho, transphobia's got to go."

They were seeking to disrupt our Christian rally where we called on the City Council to vote "no" to the so-called nondiscrimination bill, one which would actually discriminate against Christians and other people of conservative moral values and one which would make all public bathrooms and locker rooms gender neutral.

I had just finished speaking and tried to engage some of the protesters, asking them what "transphobia" was.

When I didn't fit their definition of having an irrational fear of individuals who identify as transgender, I was told that my failure to embrace their identity made me transphobic.

I asked one young man, an African-American, if he would consider me black if I really believed I was black.

He explained that skin color was outwardly determined but that it was "primitive" to claim that gender was determined by one's biological and chromosomal sex. Primitive!

No, gender was determined entirely by how you felt in your own mind, regardless of biology and anatomy.

When I pressed him on the matter of racial identity, he conceded my point. If I genuinely believed I was black, then I was black.

That prompted me to ask the City Council members when I had my turn to speak later that night (I was one of more than 115 people who signed up to address the issue) if I should be entitled to minority housing benefits if I was convinced I was really black.

This was not meant to mock but to underscore the absurdity of dismissing all external tests and claiming that reality is determined by whatever I believe it to be. How can human society even exist with such social madness?

Most frightening of all was the passion with which these protesters presented their views. To call them intensely close-minded and dogmatic would be a severe understatement.

When I asked a young lady if I could use a stable if I believed I was a horse, she said "yes" without slightest hesitation. And while she didn't have children of her own (she said she's unable to) she wanted me to know that she teaches 90 young children and would be perfectly at home with them sharing a bathroom with, say, a biological male who believed he was female.

For me even to question her was absurd in her eyes, and yet this young woman is influencing our little ones.

Micheal Brown, Charisma News 25 Comments [3/5/2015 4:06:10 AM]
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Submitted By: AJ Williams
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