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Quote# 64671

On The Nature
There is nothing beautiful about nature; to think that there is anything lovely about it is only delusion. The lilies of the field gorge themselves on the remains of death and decay. All that move on the earth directly or indirectly feast on each other with no pity or concern. Even the rainbow is a constant reminder that God once wiped life from the face of the earth, and He will do it again, and next time, He will leave NOTHING behind but an Earth scorched clean by the fires of his wrath.

Secondly, all undomesticated animals should receive our best efforts to eradicate them. The large predators and herbivores serve us no purpose and are an obstacle at best and a threat at worst. To think of them as attractive or to consider them worthy of any pity or consideration should earn the person the same scorn and derision that those with any sense give PETA and Greenpeace. Also, the extinction of any wild animal should result in celebration; one less species for the Greenies to rally around. Seriously, meat from the domesticated cow or pig serves us as well as meat from a deer.

Von Davidicus, RHJunior Forums 139 Comments [8/10/2009 7:40:50 AM]
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Quote# 13716

CHRISTIANITY IS NOT BUILT UPON LOGIC!

WE COME TO JESUS BY FAITH! THE FAITH

OF A LITTLE CHILD! It is not logical that we can feel the wind blowing and yet we see nothing or that we don't check before we sit on a chair and yet it holds us. You and I have never actually seen the Moon and yet we believe man has walked on it just because scientists show us pictures of it.Is this logical? To believe something you have never really seen yourself but to just take the word of someone you don't even know?WHERE IS THE LOGIC THERE? IT RAINS BUT WHERE IS THE WATER CAN IN THE SKY?
Just because you or anyone else says Jesus wasn't perfect --that does not make it so!!!
In God's Holy Word He says Unless you come to me with the faith of a little child you cannot get into the kingdom of Heaven. I am praying for you!

Susan C, Yahoo Answers - Religion and Spirituality 47 Comments [8/9/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 130732



[Transcription, caps in original]

JUST FOR THE RECORD CONFEDERATE SOLDIERS, SAILORS AND MARINES IN THE CIVIL WAR WERE MADE U.S. VETERANS BY AN ACT OF CONGRESS IN 1957. U.S. PUBLIC LAW 85-425 Sec. 410 APPROVED 23 MAY 1958. THIS MADE ALL CONFEDERATE ARMY, NAVY AND MARINE VETERANS EQUAL TO U.S. VETERANS. ADDITIONALLY, UNDER U.S. PUBLIC LAW 810, APPROVED BY THE 17th. CONGRESS ON 26 FEBRUARY, 1929 THE WAR DEPARTMENT WAS DIRECTED TO ERECT HEADSTONES AND RECOGNIZE CONFEDERATE GRAVESITES AS U.S. GRAVESITES. IN ESSENCE, WHEN YOU REMOVE A CONFEDERATE STATUE, YOU ARE IN FACT REMOVING A STATUE , MONUMENT OR HEADSTONE OF A UNITED STATES VETERAN !!!!

Death, Facebook 12 Comments [8/19/2017 3:47:37 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 62364

In an unrelated note. I always carry a few nuts and bolts at amusement parks. after we get locked in the ride and start to move, I hold up a few of them and say to the person next to me look what just fell out of this thing. It is a great witnessing tool. Everytime I did that the person next to me started praying.

Steve in Austin, Rapture Ready 167 Comments [5/15/2009 5:26:25 PM]
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Submitted By: Tiger

Quote# 130733



Death, Facebook 13 Comments [8/19/2017 3:47:44 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 130700

I think the Vice story was pretty good and accurate.
And yes, I think Judaism is doing its best to provoke another holocaust just as it provoked the last one. My parents were in Hungary when Hitler rose to power and from what they describe, Weimar Germany was much like America today. As in Weimar Germany, Judaism today is aligned with the scum of the earth - liberals and bankers. When the people get fed up with the abuse, they eventually revolt. Unfortunately the fine distinction between jews (an ethnic group) and judaism gets lost in such a revolt. While (Talmudic) Judaism deserves to be wiped off the face of the earth, jews as an ethnic group should not be held responsible for the crimes of Judaism. My ancestors, who were jewish but not involved in judaism, paid the price for this in the last holocaust. Decent jews should make this distinction clear and publicly renounce Judaism. Maybe then another holocaust can be avoided.

fschmidt, /r/Jewish 6 Comments [8/18/2017 8:10:17 AM]
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Quote# 130689

(Remember cantfightnature? This shit is similar.)

The New Asian Sexuality

Preface

Asian males do not own Asian females or their sexuality. This toxic attitude has unfortunately led to the resentment and hatred of Asian women for simply expressing their desires and living their lives. This is about the development of Asian sexuality in the 21st century. By accepting and evolving to this new arrangement, Asian males can live more fulfilling lives in the process.

The New Asian Sexuality

Over the past decades there has been an evolution in Asian sexuality which has been bravely led by Asian women. The old pairing of AMAF has diverged, as many Asian women are now solely having sexual relations with White men. The WMAF pairing has become a sexual revolution for Asian women. More are choosing this as their sole sexual identity, and Asian women are more empowered than ever to express and own their sexuality in the way they prefer.
This development has led to enormous increases in promiscuity and sexual freedom. Many Asian females now have numerous white sexual partners throughout their lives, some having sex with tens or dozens of men. Asian females also feel empowered to regularly share White men with other Asian females. The new Asian sexuality has dramatically increased both the amount of sex and pleasure Asian women have on a regular basis.
This hyper-promiscuity is one of the biggest positive outcomes of the new sexuality. Asian women have been liberated from antiquated feelings of shame due to having large numbers of White sexual partners. They have more fulfilling and active sex lives than ever before. In addition Asian women in the 21st century have also become very confident and powerful in society. Attending top universities, filling many high corporate positions, and becoming wealthy and influential.
However some Asian men are resentful about this new arrangement for reasons that might seem justifiable on the surface, but are actually quite indefensible.

Asian Heterosexualism

Due to the success of Asian women the Asian male must now converge his own sexuality with the new reality. The disunity of preferences is what causes feelings of resentment. It cannot remain the case that only Asian women have a sexual preference for White men. This must become the preference of Asian males as well. Their sexuality must also now be based on the expectation of WMAF sex by default, like their women, and it must be supported and respected with care and understanding.
The new Asian male heterosexuality is still traditional in the sense that they are men attracted to women. This aspect has not changed at all, and requires no perceptible alteration of identity. The difference is the focus: The heterosexual Asian male must consider WMAF sex to be the new default arrangement. The heterosexual Asian male must derive sexual pleasure from Asian women having sex with White men. He must come to terms with the fact that he is the passive portion of this sexual triad, with the White male and Asian female being the active participants.

Sexual Preference Transition

One powerful and easy way for Asian males to defeat their toxic masculinity and develop into a supporting ally of Asian women is through extensive consumption of WMAF pornography.
Asian men already watch WMAF porn of course, but it is not done through the correct lense. Some see it simply as sex and entertainment, and do not consider the political and philosophical implications. They ignore a large part of the meaning of WMAF porn through a lack of comprehension: WMAF pornography is the purest depiction of the new Asian female sexuality.
Asian males must transform their preferences to match the evolution of Asian female sexuality. They must be one in the same or else conflict will arise. The Asian female will have sex with White men, that must be accepted. This act is where pleasure and satisfaction must be derived from. It is not acceptable or reasonable for the Asian male to expect any other arrangement.
When their sexuality is aligned with their women, then the toxic attitudes will cease. If both the Asian male and female can derive pleasure from the same act: WMAF sex, then they will find that it is easier to have harmonious relationships. The men will be accepting of a partner who wishes to maintain her sexual identity, and who will continue to have sex with White men.

asianwhiteworship, Tumblr 4 Comments [8/17/2017 9:44:57 PM]
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Quote# 130629

Conservative author Dinesh D’Souza compared left-wing protestors who destroyed a Confederate statue in North Carolina to the terrorist organization ISIS and violent fascist regimes.

D’Souza appeared on the August 15 episode of Fox News Radio’s “Todd Starnes Show” to continue blaming the left for violent protests in Charlottesville, Virginia, where a white supremacist alt-right demonstrator killed one person and injured more than a dozen others after speeding his vehicle into a group of counter-protestors.

Before ending the interview, Starnes turned the discussion to “anti-fascist” protesters in North Carolina who forcefully toppled a bronze statue that memorialized Confederate soldiers. Starnes asked D’Souza if Americans should “be concerned about this whitewashing of history,” to which D’Souza responded by comparing the protestors to ISIS and other fascist groups.

“Just think about it. When is the last time somebody did this?,” D’Souza said. “The last time somebody did this is when ISIS was sandblasting and blowing up statues.”

D’Souza continued, “This whole idea that you want to erase history that you don’t like—this is a kind of behavior that is characteristic of a despotic mindset. The fascists did the same thing.”

Liberals, D’Souza claimed, are comparable to “black shirts” in Benito Mussolini’s fascist Italian regime and “brown shirts” in Nazi Germany. “The fascist mindset is revealing itself fully on the left,” D’Souza said.

D’Souza’s comparison is yet another installment of the pro-Trump right’s attempts to blame the violence in Charlottesville on the left. The conservative author has also capitalized on the violence in Charlottesville to promote his new book, which promises to expose “the Nazi roots of the American Left.”

Dinesh D'Souza, Right Wing Watch 25 Comments [8/16/2017 2:02:31 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 130739

While descending from two widely separated waves “generations” that moved out of Africa, Whites have succeeded in significant juvenilization. Asians have succeeded in far greater juvenilization. Asian women are the most juvenilized women on earth. To the point at which they have even gained extended lifespans by delaying the depth of and onset of sexual maturity (compare to central asians, arabs, and sub saharan africans that have NOT engaged in juvenilization.) Secondly, for reasons I am not sure I am confident in addressing, Asians distribute their fat more evenly. And thirdly, Asian IQ is slanted to our educated classes (I suspect it is a narrower distribution because of the juvenilization - and the asian predilection for killing off malcontents in large numbers). So between a ‘more immature look’, more petite look, better weight distribution, and higher average intelligence, the pool of asian women is objectively better than the pool of available white women. Conversely asian women pay a price for mongoloid facial features, and in places like eastern europe where women maintain their weight and walk a great deal, and dress well, asian women lose their advantage.

Curt Dolittle, Quora 6 Comments [8/19/2017 3:48:28 AM]
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Quote# 130724

[From "National Review’s Hilarious Take On Charlottesville"]

This article is so wildly cucked it could have been published by the SPLC:

“UVA’s president, Teresa Sullivan, deserves credit for seeing this in advance. In an August 4 letter to our community, she warned that “the organizers of the rally want confrontation; do not gratify their desire.” She quoted an event advocate as hoping to “create a massive polarizing spectacle in order to draw as huge a contrast as possible.” The organizers got what they wished — not just in the deaths of Heather Heyer and state troopers Berke Bates and H. Jay Cullen, but also in the others injured. …”


Where to start?

1.) When I said I wanted to “create a massive polarizing spectacle in order to draw as huge a contrast as possible,” I obviously didn’t have violence in mind. Instead, I assumed the police would do their job and keep both sides separated, we would have our big rally and it would be broadcasted live on social media. It would be highly triggering and would erode politically correct taboos, but it would be a relatively peaceful event like the previous rally held in Pikeville, KY in April.

2.) If I believed that Charlottesville was going to devolve into a violent spectacle, why didn’t any of us come armed? I didn’t have a shield, a helmet, goggles, a gas mask, a gun, a knife, a stick, etc. No, I assumed that the police were going to be well prepared to handle the situation. A few of us carried shields in order to deal with any projectiles which we were told might be hurled into the park.

3.) How on earth did we cause the police helicopter to crash? Did we have a rocket launcher?

4.) The people who were walking around with semi-automatic weapons were neutral Patriot groups. They were peacekeepers who weren’t there to take either side.

5.) We came to protest the removal of the Robert E. Lee monument. We had a constitutional right to assemble in Lee Park. The ACLU and a federal judge agreed with us. “Constitutional Conservatives,” however, sided with the Democrat governor and the Democrat mayor and violent Antifa who bullied the police into standing down and unleashing anarchy in the streets.

It was obvious who failed in Charlottesville – the police failed to keep both sides separated and stood idly by while the violence escalated. This was used as an excuse to declare a “state of emergency” and nullify the federal court order which allowed our free speech rally to take place.

Hunter Wallace, Occidental Dissent 3 Comments [8/19/2017 3:46:36 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 130705

*Tell that to the American hero that dealt with that liberal btch with his car in Charlottesville*

Well I can't argue that he did the universe a favour by reducing the number of Americans by one. Any American death is a good thing.

Matt Westwood, Not Always Right 18 Comments [8/18/2017 8:14:23 AM]
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Quote# 130719

It's Divine Law.

Masturbation is an unchaste behavior. Masturbation is the "gateway sin" to other sexual sins.

If we learn chastity, etc., then boys will not do this. The only reason why boys do it is because they hear others talk about. So they get curious and try.... But like drugs, masturbation is addictive. Also, as boys grow, masturbation leads to an objectification of women. Masturbation also (unlike popular myth) typically does not make a man a better lover, but rather a more selfish lover.

Finally, masturbation separates the love of another person from the congeal act, meaning it makes it more difficult to "make love" when married.

As someone who used to be addicted to this sin (and still sometimes suffers from withdrawal) masturbation is very dangerous as you grow. It also leads to porn addiction, etc. which is usually very bad for a marriage.

My suggestion: whenever you feel the urge to masturbate, start praying multiple "Hail Marys" until the urge goes away.

I pray this helps.

God bless and Happy Easter!

phil19034, Catholic Answers Forum 11 Comments [8/18/2017 8:17:36 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130715

As each day goes by, and I see the hatred and vitriol increase...as well as watching the utter delusions of people........ I realize that society in general, has become pretty much the same as God recognized in the days of Noah, leading up to the destruction of the world by flood. God saw them and all of their evil, and said in His heart that He was sorry He created them. Imagine............

Well. I have a feeling that history has repeated itself, and once again, God is probably very sorry about the way His creation has turned out. The good news is, He will once again step into history, and make all things right again. I feel that it won't be too much longer before that happens, and he sets up His perfect kingdom here. I think satan knows this, too, and is working more than overtime to ensnare as many as possible to drag down to hell with himself.

I feel sorry for Trump. No matter what he says or what he does, they are going to condemn him...........he can't win. I don't understand the man or his twitters, but I pray that God will use him as he used Nebecednezar for His good purposes during these terrible times.

kathymendel, Rapture Ready 12 Comments [8/18/2017 8:16:26 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130697




I kept the molestation I went through a secret from my mom. Like I felt horrible for years until I realized that I was just a really gullible and trusting kid when I was six. I didn’t know the full extent of what happened but I was physically threatened and I knew it was bad. I didn’t tell her until I was sixteen, because I didn’t want to go to therapy because I don’t believe in that nonsense and I didn’t want to be treated differently. I was already being bullied and it would have been one more thing.
But it took everything that I had to tell my mom I had been molested.
Also when I was molested he threatened to bash my head in and he threatened to kill me.
Ice cream is also not the same thing as a violent pedo threatening to bash your head in. Ice cream never made me feel like trash. Ice cream never threatened to kill me with a rock. I have barfed eating ice cream, but I would rather barf from I’ve cream than be threatened by an evil hellthing in a human costume(a pedophile).



Poor girl. I hope this bastard rot in prison. But please, do not compare rape with willing sex. That is why I showing a child willingly want an ice cream, not it pushed in her mouth forcefully.

Myluminaryking, tumblr 13 Comments [8/17/2017 9:45:55 PM]
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Quote# 130541



Ferchrissakes, if he'd given us his word that he was a stamp collector, no one would give a shit. But, "I really want to have sex with children," is not something that rational people will just shine on. And most normal people wouldn't count that as an asset on a baby-sitter's application form either



I didn't say he'd be my first choice of babysitter, but I don't see paedophilia as necessarily an automatic disqualifier anymore than being a bestialist means you can't look after my dog. What I said was if he was a friend of mine (like all my other sitters) and I knew he was an out paedophile, I would still let him look after my kid. Because, call me crazy, but I trust my friends not to hurt my kid (or they wouldn't be my friend), and anyway, I trust people not to act on their every impulse at any opportunity.

Y'all are treating him like he'd be a junkie in a room full of drugs. I'd treat him like a person with a particular attraction in a situation where that's not particularly relevant to the job at hand. IOW, I'd expect a modicum of self control from him, just like I'd trust a gay friend who thought I was hot (of which I have had a couple) not to take advantage of me when I'm drunk, or a straight friend not to try and peek at my wife changing her clothes. You know - civilized behaviour?

MrDibble, The Straight Dope 11 Comments [8/14/2017 12:22:09 PM]
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Quote# 130680

[On a piece of Trivia about Walt Disney having the cigarette doctored out of his hands on every image he was taken of in Disneyland]

Liberals fucking with history Again!!

Talbot Hanley, Google+ 14 Comments [8/17/2017 9:42:59 PM]
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Submitted By: The Reptilian Jew

Quote# 130702

[From "Take Your Place"]

Through the years a war has been waged. Racially and culturally. Whites, a once proud people, have been handed defeat after defeat it seems since the 1960’s. The country our grandparents lived in and enjoyed is vastly different than the one we have today. A person conscious of this, yet not on our side, would ask himself why this is. Why is it that things seem to be getting worse? Also, why is it that such seemingly small numbers of people are the only ones willing to do anything about it?

As history has shown us, Whites have been a people that flourished because of their ambition to pursue the interests of their race. They accomplished great things for the sake of themselves and their people. There was a sense of racial awareness that made this all subconscious to them, but it served them well. The reason for their existence was to improve their lot for the sake of future generations.

The push forward. The more ground they could traverse for their family, the further ahead they could place their race, the better. Well, what happened?

Truth is, there are many things that have happened.

Through integration in the 60’s many Whites have been brought down to the level of Blacks. Many adopt their music as if it is their own. Many dress and carry themselves like their black counterparts.

Through these things come the attitude of the Black. The mentality of the eternal underachiever. The White has learned how to exist without ambition, like his Black lesser than.

Since the late 50’s and early 60’s the momentum has changed hands in this struggle. Where in the past they always were focused on progress, now we as a people are fighting to preserve history as well.

Since we approach this conflict in a defensive manner, forward progress is inhibited by our desire to fight to preserve – instead of attack and take.

[...]

The brown hordes and their communist overlords have us on the defensive. We plan rallies around the idea we are preserving history, instead of planning marches through once white areas that are now inhabited by the brown plague. This is how we show solidarity for our future.

We are the most hated element of society. People flock to strength, not weakness. While we are not a weak people and Charlottesville is going to be wonderful for morale and our cause, it is at its core a defense of our people. We are conquerors. We always have been.

In our position we should agitate to make our position attainable. Go places we aren’t welcome. Large White marches through areas now populated by Muslims, public pro-White demonstrations and a very vocal position on all social matters pertaining to race. This is our fucking country. We have been charged with the task of taking back what is rightfully ours for the sake of our children and future generations.

Defending won’t always be enough. Especially when literally everyone is coming for part of what was created for you.

How do some in these circles say it? Retake Everything.

Larry Ridgeway, Identity Dixie 5 Comments [8/18/2017 8:12:49 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 130698

You are not alone. Our local schools have gone from 10% Asian to 40% Asian in the last 5 years, with almost an even split between Indian and Chinese immigrant kids. The Chinese moms are often regarded as abrasive and rude. They do not seem to care at all about social norms or even basic manners. The attitude rubs off on their children. I even noticed my own children now chewing with their mouth open and talking with their mouth full because that's how all the kids in their school do it. Makes me very upset. These new arrivals have ruined the beautiful, polite Pacific Northwest that I grew up in.

The larger the immigrant group, the longer it takes to assimilate them. In such large numbers and such a sudden increase, they are now assimilating us. Obama is doing his best with the new visa rules to ensure the US turns into a Chinese colony even faster. In one generation they will turn the US into another China, and let's not forget why they left China in the first place, because there were too many Chinese!



Joanne B, Nytimes 8 Comments [8/17/2017 9:46:02 PM]
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Quote# 130710

Throughout American history, since the time of the colonies, there has always been this situation. A Leftist oligarchical team feeds the angry mobs, utlizing the heckler's vote to undermine good and decent people on the Right.

The Right, being the rule-followers that they are, have an inadequate response every time, and they are undermined with "unfair" tactics. The Right is comprised of rule followers and believers of a traditional way of some sort. As such, they have invested their money, time, and families in the status quo, and they have too much to lose to commit to the fight against the Left in a full capacity.

The Left has utlized the anti-Logos spirit against the Right. This is what happened when Whig revolutionaries placed an oligarchy in power with America's First Civil War/The American Revolution. Tory loyalists mostly wanted to keep their heads down, keep to their work, not be bothered with radical movements, and stay out of the line of fire.

This same Leftist war against the Logos also occurred with the War of Northern Aggression/American Civil War. Radical agitators in the North were inciting mobs and violence, holding up abolitionism as its cause/pet project, and with the compliance of the oligarchy in power they were allowed to attack, demean, villainize, and destroy the dignity of Southerners who rightfully thought it their constitutional right to split from the Union of states--which was supposed to be a EU-style conglomeration of different countries. But thanks to Abraham Lincoln, his war morphed the nation into a horrific superstate.

Now, Leftist Zionism is our religion and national policy. If you are an annoying minority who is against this, then you are anathema, and open to attack.

We've reached the next iteration of the Left's perpetual war against the Right. The ever-present and never-ending war against the Logos. Against God. Against sensibility. The Right will lose, just as it lost during the Civil War and the American Revolution. We shall be run over, honestly. Objectively speaking, there's no other way to see it. There's simply not enough people who are inspired enough to step out of the comfort zones they've worked hard to build up and invest in.

LaramieHirsch, Cathinfo 9 Comments [8/18/2017 8:15:43 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130713

I watch anime and it includes: drawings of men, women, and animals. It is filled with music. Women are always drawn with skimpy cloths and anime will always have at least one episode either at a beach or hot spa so they can draw the women in skimpy bating suits. Do this and putting anime characters into sexual situations is actually named and done purposely... see fan service.

Anime is prompting western dress, western schooling, western ideas, western culture. In recent anime they more than likely either adding a homosexual character in it, and/or homosexual jokes or Homosexual fan service.

So can you tell me why anime would not be haraam?

Mich, Ummah 11 Comments [8/18/2017 8:16:19 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130714

I agree, Krauthammer even has succumbed to the brain rot, I was a little goggle-eyed when I saw that headline this morning. He's always been fairly steady and logical in my experience. Said it before, but all this "highly illogical" (insert :spock here) behavior and response just screams spiritual attack to me. Like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour... and he must be reaching for the tums about now...

Maybe The Donald was like a match to a bottle rocket, maybe that's why the Lord let him defeat Hillary. Go on and light this thing off, to expose the darkness in the swamp. They don't like it, so they are pulling down the shades with lies and fake news and pure deception and rebellion, which is as witchcraft. If Hillary had won, it would have been business as usual in the swampy lands. Instead, Trump is shaking everything up, re-mix. Showing who's on what side of the line.

I dunno, random thoughts there, but it is stunning to see happening.

I'm gonna be praying more for this administration.

pixelpusher, Rapture Ready 5 Comments [8/18/2017 8:16:23 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130709

Crime is an unwanted feature in any society, and any system governing a society has policies to minimise crime and secure the rights of its citizens. In the modern world, criminal acts take on many appearances whether they be violence, abuse, fraud, theft and all of the above in a cyber environment.

Also in the modern world, the sense of insecurity felt by many, seems to be increasing as criminal acts come in so many forms as Assistant Commissioner, Martin Hewitt said in 2017, “Along with rises in traditional crimes, we are facing new challenges across London”. As with all proposed governing models, Islam offers a comprehensive solution towards achieving a society with very little crime.

Even criminal acts have a reasoning behind them. For theft, it is the wealth one can gain. For sexual offences, it is the desire that can be satisfied or with assault, it is the dominance one can feel.

Though these desires exist in human beings, not everyone chooses to satisfy them in a criminal way or by inflicting misery on others. There is no doubt that the actions of the criminal are ultimately his or her actions. The sheer volume of crime in Western society also shows that for many, the system simply does not work for them to satisfy their needs in a law abiding way.

Islam has a very world orientated view towards individuals, Muslim and non-Muslim, and their ability to break the commandments of Allah SWT or commit crime even in a society based upon Islamic laws. It does not expect people to behave like angels and recognises human capacity to do both good and bad.

At the same time, an Islamic system takes positive steps to reducing the risk of someone committing a crime.

Crime prevention starts at an aqeeda (creedal) level. Islam teaches life is a test and that good deeds and obedience to Allah’s commands gains Allah’s pleasure whilst sinning and transgressing Allah’s prohibitions earns His wrath resulting in either Jannah or Jahannam in the hereafter.

Hence, accountability is not to a judge, or the police and authorities, but to Allah SWT, the all Knowing, the all Punishing and the Just. If an individual does believe he can break the law and evade justice, it is unlikely for him to believe he will evade the inevitable accountability of Judgement Day. Thus, deterring people from committing unlawful acts, or entering lives of crime.

Making obedience to the rule of law a natural state of affairs is made easier when the state and its organs are at one with the basic philosophy of the Islamic system. There will be no glorification of violence or respect given to criminals or gangs.

Nor will there be a culture glorifying crime through movies and music as these are not the values which underpins an Islamic society. Rather, the Islamic Khilafah system would do the opposite. It would promote and pursue wholesome ideals such as described in the following ahadith,

“None of you truly believes until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself.” [Bukhari and Muslim]

“One who goes to sleep full whilst his neighbour is hungry is not one of us.” [Bayhaqi’s Sunan al-Kubra]

or

“A Muslim is a brother of another Muslim, so he should not oppress him, nor should he hand him over to an oppressor. Whoever fulfilled the needs of his brother, Allah will fulfil his needs; whoever brought his (Muslim) brother out of a discomfort, Allah will bring him out of the discomforts of the Day of Resurrection, and whoever screened a Muslim, Allah will screen him on the Day of Resurrection.” [Bukhari]

Therefore, selfish desires are not stoked, rather they are tamed.

The public opinion regarding criminal acts and the norms of behaviour will be synonymous with the principles of Islam. As the society is Islamic, their value judgments on actions will run parallel to the value judgments Islam provides. Thus, anyone breaking these norms would be shunned in society thereby acting as a powerful deterrent.

A person committing a crime, will therefore, not better his quality or standard of living, but be going against the grain of society, and challenging the status quo. As social beings, humans would rather seek acceptance and interaction with their neighbours, colleagues and families, rather than being excluded from them, again removing the mindset or potential for a person to be tempted to commit criminal acts.

A criminal will pursue a crime, only if he feels he will not have to face the consequences of his actions or the potential gains are greater than the punishment that would be served if he is caught. Only having accountability to fellow humans is flawed, as humans can be deceived and criminals can escape the wrath and the full extent of the law.

For those who do indulge in criminal acts or violate the law of the land, the Islamic punishments are severe. However, the severity of the punishment, is not to satisfy a bloodlust nor for lack of wisdom or desire to seek mercy. Rather, the punishment system is a preventative measure to reduce the temptation to commit crime. Knowing that the consequence of being found guilty of a crime will result in the loss of life or limb is an extremely potent idea which one cannot rid from his mind as the consequence stays with the criminal for life.

Furthermore, punishments take place with public knowledge and in a public setting. This, combined with the public opinion described before, would have a second effect. A person’s life would be ruined if he is found guilty, as not only has he paid for the crime with loss of limb, money or pain, he will also be known to have strayed from socially acceptable actions, resulting in the public having a negative view to him.

Nowadays, criminals who have committed a crime and escaped punishment, or are let off easily are incentivised to repeat offend; the price wasn’t too high to pay, so why not? An example of this is the swimmer convicted of rape in the UK who served a meagre three months for his crime which destroyed a woman’s life. This sentence is in no way fair, and is an example to other sexual offenders that the consequences of their crime is light. The reverse of this is also true.

Criminals who have committed a crime and paid a heavy price for it, would be an example to the people of what happens when the sanctity of the law is broken. A potential thief seeing a man without a hand is a fitting example of being “put off” from committing a crime.

Upholding the law and being seen to uphold the law is a key part of an Islamic judicial system. There is no one in society who is above the law. The law, procedure and punishment are applicable to everyone within the society. This is evident in the hadith,

“By Allah, if Fatima, the daughter of Muhammad stole, I would cut off her hand.” [Bukhari]

The judges are not selected based on their heritage, network or status. Rather they are selected due to their ability, knowledge and piety. Since this will be evident through their conduct, confidence in the system will be strong amongst the law abiding public. This in turn will minimise any rebellious or vigilante mindset, as the due process is fair, works and ensures the protection and safety of the citizens of the state.

It is important to note that the Islamic Justice system is not to be implemented in isolation from the rest of Islam’s governance. For example, if the Islamic economic system is not being implemented, or the rules governing men and women are absent then crimes of varying natures will occur.

The track record of the Khilafah Rashidah and Islamic state is a testimony to Islam’s ability to minimise criminal activity. In fact, throughout the history of the Khilafah lasting 1300 years, there existed seldom instances of theft deemed severe enough to result in a hand being cut. Truly, the only way to satisfy the problems the world faces, is by using the system the Creator of man revealed, and only through the Khilafah system, can justice be served and harmony be established.

Unknown author, Hizb ut-Tahrir 4 Comments [8/18/2017 8:15:39 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130716

When a person says one thing; "there were good, permit carrying, peaceful protesters in the crowd also that were there to protest the statues coming down" and the listener hears something totally different "part of the neo-nazi, white supremacy group was good," which throws everyone into a ditzy, it can only be explained as demonic.

We are living in the days of strong delusion and it's surreal! These people actually believe that Trump was calling part of the white supremacist group "good." He wasn't saying that at all. It's past the point of them just perpetrating lies against him - they actually believe it. Maybe that's what they actually heard?? Demons!!

You always have to leave room for direct intervention from God, which is what Trump may be, but barring that, this country will not be coming back from this divide which has been perpetuated by Satan, Obama, Soros, and their ilk - the Kill, Steal, and destroy crowd. We are living in the days of Noah. I just hope we are raptured before we see that level of violence that fills the whole Earth!

You ever wonder if God led Ken Ham to build the lifesize Ark Encounter at this time to say "hey, here's your mega sign. The days of Noah have arrived!"

mel018, Rapture Ready 11 Comments [8/18/2017 8:16:35 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

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...."You say that as if that is somehow different from what I said. Here is what I said: "For instance, if Entropy of the Universe is always increasing, then how did the Entropy get to be as low as it is today?" It seems you believe that a massive explosion resulted in a highly ordered universe. Of course that's nonsense, since we know that explosions do not create order, but massive disorder. There are lots of measurements that indicate the Big Bang theory is bunk, but of course those are not taught to students in public schools."

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"As discussed, above and below, we know the characteristics of the God who created the Universe. Science has no credible story about the origin of the Universe which is not directly contradicted by measurements. But many cling to belief in the Big Bang in a desperate attempt to not acknowledge the existence of God."

RegGuheert, The Well-Trained Mind 11 Comments [8/18/2017 9:21:10 AM]
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Please Lord we ask for that last soul to come to you. Can't take the heartache watching our evil world crumble destructing ourselves. Maranatha. Come Lord Jesus! And we pray, for yet another tragedy of likely majority unsaved people's deaths, for their loved ones, and that each life lost results in at least one turning to You to be saved. ????

BlessdMomUv5, Rapture Ready 5 Comments [8/18/2017 8:16:54 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie
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