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Quote# 140429


We're not talking about wishing something was legal in a vast generic sense, we're talking about someone who is responsible for the care of small children telling you he would like to rape them. You're saying this is a job he should be permitted to keep?

Having no reason to believe that he would act on his desires or otherwise commit a crime, yes.

atomicbadgerrace, The Straight Dope 5 Comments [9/13/2018 2:30:41 PM]
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Quote# 140428


What if I said nothing and he ended up screwing the neighbour's three-year old, in spite of his protestations that he would do no such thing? I'd rather have his ostracisation on my conscience than that.


I'd rather respect his right to privacy than play "what if?" games. Ruining someone's reputation/socially ostracizing them/putting myself in the line of fire for potential slander or harassment lawsuits isn't something I want on my conscience.

I encourage you to consider the question posed by others in this thread: where do you draw the line with hypotheticals?

he has told you that he would like to fuck children. That isn't speculation. You're saying that if you worked at a job in which you were responsible for working with young children, and a coworker told you he wished he could have sx with them, you wopuld not think that was any cause for alarm or anything worth reporting to your employer? Becaus if that's the acse, then you should be fired too.

Maybe, but I'm not employed by the Mind Police, and I won't risk ruining someone's reputation, or inciting potential harassment or finger-pointing, over what they wish was legal without the intent to commit a crime.

atomicbadgerrace, The Straight Dope 2 Comments [9/13/2018 2:30:26 PM]
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Quote# 140402

Today, The Film industry of India (2nd largest in World) celebrated this move as a Festival. And now more and more LGBT movies will come up. LGBT will be as normal as hetro sexuality.

In India nobody gives a damn on public display of "LOVE". So now we'll be witnessing homosexual display too. Fitnah of Dajjal is spreading fast.

Dajjal - THE GLOBAL ARROGANCE SYSTEM. India is following the footsteps of America (the Great Satan).

Waseem162, ShiaChat 12 Comments [9/12/2018 1:44:16 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 140413

Peter: Given many of the same people that refuse to serve us cakes have voted in a serial adulterer as president we aren't treated equally.
But both those activities go against Jesus principles for all morality and the comparison with the second one is beyond contempt.

Martin: You can hardly complain about adultery when you promote sexual immorality. And the alternative they had was a woman who not only connived at her husband's serial adultery and also undermined those young women he took advantage of. Not only that but she also campaigns to kill babies. Trump certainly appears the more moral of the two.

Peter: What part of Jesus teaching that all morality is based on love God and agape love of neighbour are you finding so difficult to grasp? To say trump evidences this and merits support on that basis - ongoing support from white conservative evangelicals - is risible.

Martin: Trump certainly provides evidence that he cares for the poor in the USA, whose jobs are being taken by illegal immigrants, and helpless infants aborted for no other reason than the convenience of the 'mothers'.
And what does Clinton do to show her love for God and her neighbour?

Peter: You do realise the election is over? The support for trump from white evangelical religious conservatives is ongoing and nothing to do with clinton.
When you disgracefully try to scapegoat "illegal immigrants" for economic problems you are closer to home. So much for giving two hoots what the bible, staunch defender of immigrants, has to say.

Martin: And the whining from the left is never ceasing. That people reject your politics is because it doesn't work and it isn't compatible with Christianity. Why shouldn't Christians seek to influence the president?
It's a fact that illegal immigrants do take work away from the poorer strata of society. Curiously the left seem to have given up on the working man these days.

Martin, Premier 18 Comments [9/12/2018 1:45:41 AM]
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Submitted By: CC

Quote# 140376

"The Failed Legacy Speaks"




Transcript:
Barack Obama (presumably)
All this talk about the economy. Let's not forget...uhh...when this recovery began - back in...uhh...2015! We didn't have all this strife and division. This persecution of FBI and DOJ...the racism.

Cable Guy:
Cable Guy here. Gotta admire your style, Barack! All those pauses to admire your profound pontificatin'...the way you look down your nose at the useful idiots...classic! None of 'em wanna hear how you were too much of a boob to destroy American in eight whole years. Then along comes this Trump feller getting it turned around in one year--in spite of looney tune dimocrats and their pet media!

But ain't that the point of Marxism? All nations must be the same, which means the West has to take a dive. You tried to do that with your job-killin' regs; your race baitin'; crooked FBI, DOJ, IRS, EPA and all that alphabet soup! Your hold-over stooges are still throwin' wrenches in the works, and we gotta admire that kinda loyalty!

But you're takin' too much credit, Mr. O. Could it be you're a useful idiot yourself? It ain't just Trump that has an IQ way higher than yours--there's also that infernal dude that pulls a lot of puppet strings, a dude you don't even believe in!

Hold still while I find me a fly swat--there's somethin' on your shoulder. And keep showin' the voters who and what dimocrats really are!



Mick Williams, Disqus - Faith & Religion 20 Comments [9/12/2018 1:43:07 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 140389

I tell you—the Bob Jones crowd are deceived, lackadaisical concerning the verbal inspiration of God's Word, promoting the Devil's corruptible seed in the modern Alexandrian Bible perversions, indifferent toward false prophets like John MacArthur (a BJU alumni), and lax toward women's modesty. It is frustrating as a man to see female staff members of Harvest Baptist Church on Guam walking around in public wearing sexy tight spandex pants. They are whores and couldn't care less about the war men are going through. 1st Peter 2:11, “Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul.” The Bob Jones crowd DON'T CARE!!! God cares how you dress ladies. God cares which Bible we use. God cares how we present the Gospel. Harvest Baptist Church promotes the false gospel of Dr. John MacArthur!!! They must be exposed!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 20 Comments [9/11/2018 11:41:26 AM]
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Quote# 92576



The Unity, the Creator of the Universes, Earth and all in between, God of Abraham, David, Solomon, Moses, Jesus and Mohammad, the God the Father, Adonai, Jehovah, Allah, Ahura Mazda, Dao, Narayan, Bhagavan, Vishnu, the Existence as a whole, the Unified string filed of consciousness that rules the 11 dimensions of the known space-time in this Universe and limitless unknown material and non-material other Universes, (All are ONE). It decided. It is written. It is done.

Justice will be enforced on the Earth as follows. Two miracles and one global execution.

1- 19 June 2018 all butchers all over the world, 12 noon (Greenwich) will die painless quick.

2- 57 days after that, all hunters who have not been Vegan for the past 42 days, will die as above.

3- 114 days after that, all humans who have not been Vegan for the past 42 days will die, as above.

Present estimation 5 billion.

4- Surviving Vegans will have some tough time dealing with emotional traumas, the dead, economical, production, workforce and chaos. Free large scale global expert psychological counseling will be provided. They will survive, pro-create and fill the earth again.

A VEGAN EARTH. kindness is the rule

An Earth with one law above all other laws, enforced in all governments that Vegans will establish themselves.

Global Equal Legal Rights for all human and non-human animals.
Court, Evidence, death penalty. We ensure its enforcement for one human generation
then we will leave the Earth.

Behold the miracles. Learn. Become Vegan. Become kind. Survive.

Else, you will be dead in those dates and as a gift of the God will get the chance to be reborn again and again. . . in a Vegan kind world.

It is decided. It is done.

Wish you happiness
the Moses

the Moses, God Justice Vegan Earth 2019 95 Comments [2/10/2013 5:25:09 AM]
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Submitted By: Count Zapolai

Quote# 123562

The definition of a child is precisely who has not reached puberty. Who has not developed the secondary (adult) characters of sexuality. In general, girls enter puberty around the age of 9, with the breastspring, becoming a puberty, and leave puberty around age 13, becoming post-pubescent. Menarche occurs on average at 12 years. The first menstruation is a late phenomenon within the pubertal process.

Miguel, fococristao.wordpress.com 25 Comments [1/11/2017 7:07:23 AM]
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Submitted By: PETF

Quote# 137732

(=Trimmed for Relevant qoutes and verses=)

So How Did David Really “Love” Jonathan?

Is it possible David and Jonathan could express love toward each other, even swear an oath and enter into a covenant, without being homosexuals? Well, let’s begin by looking at the issue of the love they felt for each other. The David’s love for Jonathan is displayed in the Biblical text the very first time that Jonathan meets David (immediately following David’s defeat of Goliath and as he is presented to King Saul)

1 Samuel 18:1-3
Now it came about when he had finished speaking to Saul, that the soul of Jonathan was knit to the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as himself. And Saul took him that day and did not let him return to his father’s house. Then Jonathan made a covenant with David because he loved him as himself.

Jonathan also makes a covenant with David:

1 Samuel 20:16-17
So Jonathan made a covenant with the house of David, saying, “May the LORD require it at the hands of David’s enemies.” And Jonathan made David vow again because of his love for him, because he loved him as he loved his own life.

And later, when Jonathan is killed, David laments his loss with these words:

2 Samuel 1:25-26
“How have the mighty fallen in the midst of the battle! Jonathan is slain on your high places. I am distressed for you, my brother Jonathan; You have been very pleasant to me. Your love to me was more wonderful than the love of women.”

Two Hebrew words are used here to describe the emotion of love in these passages. The first is ‘ahab (aw-hab’) or ‘aheb (aw-habe’), and it can definitely be used to describe a sexual relationship between a man and a wife. The second word is ‘ahabah (a-hab-aw), and this two can be used to describe a similar marital love. But in the 247 times these words are used to describe love in the Old Testament, far less than 20% of the time are they actually used to describe the love between two sexual partners. Far more often, (over 4 to 1) the words are used to describe the love between friends or between God and his creation. Here are just a few examples:

*Series of Verses*

In these passages, it is obvious that the word used for love is not meant to connote a sexual relationship. Now it is clear with David and Jonathan there is no Biblical account of a sexual relationship. That is interesting in itself. If they were homosexual lovers, why is there no open description of this fact? Some (as we’ve seen above) would argue the social pressures forced the writer to hide the truth. But there are open discussions of homosexual activity in other places in the Bible, why not here? Part of the problem is in those other areas of the Bible where homosexual behavior is openly discusses, it is always in a negative sense (as something we shouldn’t do). If Samuel is cleverly hiding the homosexual behavior between David and Jonathan here, he is doing so as a prophet of God, knowing full well such behavior is offensive to God! Does that seems consistent with the canon of Old Testament scripture?

So how is it then, that David and Jonathan’s love was deeper than that of a man and woman? Well, these two men were certainly connected as brothers. In fact, they were brothers-in-arms during war. If any of you ever had the chance to talk to two friends who fought side by side in World War 2 (just watch “Band of Brothers”) you know the love between men in a situation like that is deeper in some ways than the love between a man and a woman. Is this not also a possible reading of the text here? And is this reading not more compatible with the other clear teaching of the Bible and the historic accepted traditional understanding to the relationship between David and Jonathan?"

So Why Did They Kiss?

"In this passage, Jonathan is sending David away because he knows his father (King Saul) is trying to kill David. Jonathan knows he may never see his dear friend again. So he kisses David. The Hebrew word used for this kiss is nashaq (naw-shak’) and it is used 35 times in the Old Testament. I in only 4 of these uses is the word used to describe a sexual or romantic kiss. Over and over again, the word is used to describe the cultural greeting of the time:

*Number of verses*

The kiss between David and Jonathan, when seen accurately in the majority context and used of the Hebrew word, does nothing to advance the notion they were homosexuals. Even today, we see men in the middles east continue to greet and interact with each other, utilizing a kiss to express their friendship or commitment to one another without a homosexual relationship."

So Why Did He Take His Clothes Off?

Another claim on the part of revisionists is Jonathan disrobed in front of David in some sort of sexual way or as some sort of sexual display or commitment:

*Series of quotes*

Reading from the context of the culture, 1 Samuel 18:3-5 actually describes a covenant of brotherhood between Jonathan and David, as Jonathan pays high tribute to the man who just killed Goliath and had earned the right to wear the armor. This hardly proves the two men were homosexual lovers.

But Does It Look Like a Marriage?

Those who interpret David and Jonathan’s relationship in a homoerotic sense also point to scripture to make the case Jonathan and David considered themselves to be married in some way. Look at this passage describing Saul’s reaction when he discovered that Jonathan was ultimately siding with David

1 Samuel 20:30-31
Then Saul’s anger burned against Jonathan and he said to him, “You son of a perverse, rebellious woman! Do I not know that you are choosing the son of Jesse to your own shame and to the shame of your mother’s nakedness? “For as long as the son of Jesse lives on the earth, neither you nor your kingdom will be established. Therefore now, send and bring him to me, for he must surely die.”

Advocates of a homosexual reading of this passage will sometimes point to the description of “nakedness” in this verse and claim it is referring to a sexual relationship. The inference here is that the context implies that Jonathan somehow chose David sexually (as a homosexual partner). This interpretation then goes on to claim Saul is upset because Jonathan could not be established as king unless and until he had a female partner with which to bear children who could become heirs to the throne.

But who is described as naked? It’s Jonathan’s mother! There is nothing in the passage describing a sexual relationship between the two men. In fact, this passage says nothing about any type of marriage. Saul is upset about one thing: Jonathan took David’s side against Saul. Jonathan and David were sworn to each other as brothers, and Saul was simply mad Jonathan would treat David more like family than his own father."

So Why Does He Say David Is A Son-In-Law Twice?

But there is another passage of Scripture sometimes used to make the case for a homosexual union between Jonathan and David. It is a curious passage seeming to indicate David had two opportunities to become Saul’s son-in-law. Let’s begin with a peak at the passage in question, presented in a partial way, as it is often presented by homosexual advocates:

1 Samuel 18:17,21
Then Saul said to David, “Here is my older daughter Merab; I will give her to you as a wife, only be a valiant man for me and fight the Lord’s battles.”… And Saul thought, “I will give her to him that she may become a snare to him, and that the hand of the Philistines may be against him.” Therefore Saul said to David, “For a second time you may be my son-in-law today.”

Those who hope to interpret a homosexual relationship here maintain Saul has offered David a second opportunity to be his son-in-law because the first opportunity for David was realized through Jonathan! They argue David’s union with Jonathan makes him Saul’s son-in-law, even before David’s marriage to Merab, Saul’s daughter. But before we can truly assess what would make David Saul’s son-in-law in the first place, we had better look at the issue of ‘betrothal’ in the ancient world. In Biblical times, the moment a woman was ‘betrothed’ to a man (pledged or promised to be married to him), she was considered married to him, even though she was not yet formally united to the man in a ceremony. For this reason, a woman who was betrothed to someone and slept with another man was considered to be an adulteress. That’s right, you could commit adultery even before you were officially married. If a woman wanted to break a betrothal, something similar to a divorce would have to occur.

Once we understand this historic truth, many other passages of scripture start to make sense. Take a look at this passage from Deuteronomy:

Deuteronomy 22:23-24
If there is a girl who is a virgin engaged to a man, and another man finds her in the city and lies with her, then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city and you shall stone them to death; the girl, because she did not cry out in the city, and the man, because he has violated his neighbor’s wife. Thus you shall purge the evil from among you.

Clearly in this law written for Israel, an engaged girl is described as a wife, even before she is officially married. In addition to this, we are all familiar with this part of the nativity story:

Matthew 1:19-20
Because Joseph her husband was a righteous man and did not want to expose her to public disgrace, he had in mind to divorce her quietly. But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, “Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit.”

Joseph thinks about divorcing Mary for what he thinks she has done. How can he do this when they aren’t even married yet? Because, (once again) this engaged woman was considered married to her betrothed, even before the official ceremony. OK, now let’s take a look at the situation with David and Merab one more time. As it turns out, David had already been betrothed to Merab; this occurred the moment he defeated Goliath:

1 Samuel 18:17-21
Then Saul said to David, “Here is my older daughter Merab; I will give her to you as a wife, only be a valiant man for me and fight the Lord’s battles.” For Saul thought, “My hand shall not be against him, but let the hand of the Philistines be against him.” But David said to Saul, “Who am I, and what is my life or my father’s family in Israel, that I should be the king’s son-in-law?” So it came about at the time when Merab, Saul’s daughter, should have been given to David, that she was given to Adriel the Meholathite for a wife. Now Michal, Saul’s daughter, loved David. When they told Saul, the thing was agreeable to him. And Saul thought, “I will give her to him that she may become a snare to him, and that the hand of the Philistines may be against him.” Therefore Saul said to David, “For a second time you may be my son-in-law today.”

This is the key to the comment that Saul makes in verse 21. Although Saul had already betrothed his daughter to David as a result of his killing of Goliath, Saul conveniently ignored this betrothal when he instead promised Merab to Adriel the Meholathite. Look at what traditional commentaries have to say about this:

*Quote here*

Now Saul’s comment in verse 21 makes sense. Saul had betrothed Merab to David twice. Once when he defeated Goliath and once here in the passages that precede verse 21.

So Were They Homosexuals?
In order to believe David and Jonathan were homosexual lovers, you are going to have to ignore the plain reading of the scripture and the historic and traditional understanding of the text. In addition, you are going to have to believe Samuel, one of God’s prophets in the tradition of the Mosiac cultural law that condemns homosexuality in Leviticus, would then approve of this homosexual relationship enough to carefully cloak it in the text. Would not this prophet of God, in the strong tradition of Judaism and the law of Moses have an opinion on this?

Hopefully this very brief review of the texts under consideration will help you to understand the orthodox Christian perspective of David and Jonathan’s relationship. David and Jonathan were the deepest of friends. True brothers in both Cause and Faith. But they were nothing more.



J. Warner Wallace, Cold Case Christianity 8 Comments [4/14/2018 9:34:14 AM]
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Quote# 140359

The best thing that could happen is for mR Obama to lash out and talk wild, as that will solify and ralley the reublicans to make sure crazy dems kept out of office!

Yeshua1, Baptistboard 11 Comments [9/12/2018 1:42:59 AM]
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Submitted By: Hilda

Quote# 140385

To contemplate the idea that there is no God would be equivalent to me contemplating my own non existence. The fact that I exist, and am aware of my existence is entirely sufficient for me to realise that this awareness of existence comes from God - not from an aimless, purposeless materialistic process.

Alan Burns, Religion and Ethics 12 Comments [9/12/2018 1:43:22 AM]
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Submitted By: NearlySane

Quote# 140396

[On the term "right-wing SJW"]

It's intrinsically nonsensical, and let me explain for those of you who have not read SJWS ALWAYS LIE, which is, as even people who don't like me very much will tell you, the go-to book on the subject. Social justice is about the convergence of all individuals and institutions towards what they consider to be the maximum possible justice for everyone, and so "social justice warrior" does not refer to tactics, it does not refer to techniques, it refers to objectives. And the objectives of the SJW are absolutely antithetical to the right wing in general, and to right-wing extremists in particular

Alot of people don't realize that the concept of social justice goes back to the 1800s. That's right. A commenter said social justice is socialist justice. Many figures on the right have condemned it, probably the best example being Friedrich von Hayek. He wrote a really good essay on the subject back in 1971, so this is all going back much further than most people realize, and what we're seeing in the SJWs today is really just the ultimate realization of what John Stuart Mill was advocating back in, whatever it was, 1851. So if you look at what social justice stands for, it stands for the very things that we're now seeing from the tech companies, it stands for all of the corporations, all of the organizations, all of the Boy Scouts, all the churches, everything, being used to enforce the principles of social justice. Now, of course, what social justice specifically stands for has a tendency to mutate at any given moment. They used to be concerned about gay marriage, before that they were concerned about women in the workplace. They were concerned about black quarterbacks, now they're concerned about black coaches. The specific target frequently evolves, but the general objective of forcing everybody's opinion, and everybody's thinking, and everybody's actions to conform to the narrative, that is the primary objective.

Obviously that is not what we on the right wing support or stand for. We don't accept any of it. Social justice, and especially the convergence that it entails, is diametrically opposed to all of us who value Aristotelian logic, value Christianity and Christian morality, and so it is absolutely insane, it's nonsensical, to confuse the two or to conflate the two. Now, you can say quite reasonably that we don't want politics in our comics. I don't think that is very plausible for comics that are going to have any relevance to current events or to the interesting philosophical and ideological questions of the day, but that's not a nonsensical statement, it's just a self-limiting statement.

Vox Day, Vox Popoli 16 Comments [9/10/2018 3:56:27 PM]
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Quote# 140393

Aside from the fact that man/woman as "Islamic experts" get blisfully and hotly filled with tax money to make the I-affair look harmless and beautiful. And the only solution, namely to ban Islam in this country, for that the limp Germans are like the rest of civilization, well, too limp.

Abgesehen davon, daß man/frau inzwischen als “Islam-Experte” mit der Verharmlosung und des Schönredens der I-Sache wohlig warm mit leckeren Steuergeld zugeschissen wird. Und die einzige Lösung, nämlich den Islam hierzulande zu verbieten, dafür sind die schlappen Deutschen so wie der Rest der Zivilisierten, naja, zu schlapp.


Akif Pirinçci, Der Kleine Akif 5 Comments [9/11/2018 11:44:20 AM]
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Submitted By: hydrolythe

Quote# 140161

Abraham, Jacob, David, and Solomon practiced polygamy because that was part of the ancient, near-east culture they came out of. God chose a people, with their in-grained culture -- warts and all -- but that doesn't mean God actually endorsed it. In fact, every place this polygamy occurs, there are always consequential problems with it.

Dan Carollo, Patheos 7 Comments [9/12/2018 1:41:46 AM]
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Submitted By: I

Quote# 44340

Theocracy

Rule by God himself, or through his chosen representatives. This is THE perfect governent type, perfect justice and equity flourish.

[...]

With Theocracy, or Christianity in general, it is the exact opposite of communism in every single way possible. Where the Individual matters just as much as the group.

A Theocracy promotes goodness and righteousness, and free-thinking as well. A communistic government allows no free thinking, it is ruthless and cruel with its people. It is truly an evil type of government that looks to destroy Christianity, or other types of beliefs.

[...]

For a look into a glimpse of what would happen if communism would be allowed to happen in America, check out the book 1984.

There has only been one true theocracy in world history, that of ancient Israel. Where God mediated his law through Moses and the priesthood. All national decisions were in the hand of God.

Not Zane, Urban Dictionary 54 Comments [8/6/2008 1:18:01 PM]
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Submitted By: Doctor Fishcake

Quote# 140378

A fourty-something sleeping with a young girl around 14 is not ANY different from a fifty-something sleeping with a young girl around 24 if the maturity levels of both girls are similar. Yet, one of the two is accepted in our society (albeit with a few jokes and dirty looks) while the other is ILLEGAL. Do you see the great chasm of illogicality? One that would swallow all the mountains in the world as though it was a singe drop of sand in the Sahara?

Again, there can be equally forceful, abusive and damaging same-age partners for every way older one. In fact, the older person being also with more life experience, may, you know, not be a total degenerate sick bastard and actually want to honestly and sincerely love that person and be nice and kind. Like, you know, how adults who are in relationships are generally perceived to feel towards one-another and why weddings and engagements get all those "awwws" and whatnot. It's the same exact situation that through the prism of our society gets turned into a sick situation when in fact it could equally as much be a beautiful one. Making up for all the sick situations among same-age partners that the "common eye" sees as nice and loving, as if there has to be a balance stricken. Well, I say it's time to start being more outraged with all the sick abusive bastards who're into making the life of adult women miserable and let the little girls that happen to be happy stay happy.

Dreiko, The Escapist 14 Comments [9/11/2018 8:46:39 AM]
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Quote# 58185

That's not exactly how Noah's Ark happened. It happened like this: The entire world was disobeying God, they were having homosexual relationships, %@*#s, pre-marital sex, all that jazz. Oh, and since when does Religion =/= Logic exactly?

Christianity is actually a very logical religion. Stop looking at it half empty.

Fruscainte, worldofwarcraft 42 Comments [2/12/2009 4:17:36 AM]
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Quote# 74894

(Board member forwards a message from his daughter about her mission trip to Japan)

“It's 9:17 pm Wednesday here in Tokyo. That would be about 7:17 am where you are. Today, we went prayer walking at Asakusa Temple, and it was devastating. As you enter through the large gates, you see two huge statues of "protectors" (translation: demons). Beyond that is a market place and then another gate with yet more demon representations. As you enter the second gate, you can see people bowing to the false gods before they enter. Then, you're greeted by the smell of incense as you watch people stand around an altar, bathing themselves in the smoke in order to purify themselves. After that, they go to the right where a large water fountain/basin is located so that they can rinse their hands and mouths to purify those. To the left is an atrocity. They have a bronze Buddha called a "healing Buddha." People rub the place on the idol that needs healing and then rub themselves in the same stop. It's terrible. Inside the temple was bad, too. People were throwing money into this large...thing...and clapping their hands before saying a prayer. Yes, they have to pay the gods to listen to their prayers and clap to wake them up. It's the worst. There are two large lantern-like things to either side in which people place small white birthday candles to pray for aborted babies (this is normally done by a family who suffered this tragedy). Beyond this is an area where only members of the temple can enter in which they pray to false gods. Beyond that is something similar to the Holy of Holies in the Jewish temple. Only the monks could enter. I saw someone open the door, and the monks were simply lounging about."... "Outside to the right of the temple was a Shinto shrine. There, someone had brought their new car to get blessed, and we watched as a shrine priest performed a very long ceremony over it. These people are lost. They are so spiritually blind. I've never seen idol worship to this extent before, and it's a sad thing.

Also, yesterday, we did 5 minute English lessons. I felt I was largely unsuccessful. It took a long time for people to come to me, and when they did, they were all men. The problem with that is that I, as a woman, can't ask a man for any sort of friendship without it meaning something...more. And none of them were actually interested in what I had to say. Although, many lost interest when they found out I was with a Christian organization.”

elac (and daughter), RaptureReady 150 Comments [8/3/2010 6:19:19 PM]
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Quote# 79137

I do not believe in the existence of atheists. No, this is not a play on words or a trick statement. Atheists don’t exist. By “atheist” I am referring to the ideal person who does not believe in the existence of God, not the person who labels themselves as an atheist. Clear as mud? All people who label themselves as “atheist” are not, by definition, atheists, because they all believe in the existence of God.

Dante Tremaine, Christian Theology 117 Comments [1/31/2011 4:49:31 AM]
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Submitted By: Quartz

The World Should Change Because I Say It Should

If anyone wants to argue if this guy was not an eco-fundie, email Bite.Me@fstdt.net and your complaints will be addressed appropriately.

Quote# 75903

The Discovery Channel MUST broadcast to the world their commitment to save the planet and to do the following IMMEDIATELY:
1. The Discovery Channel and it's affiliate channels MUST have daily television programs at prime time slots based on Daniel Quinn's "My Ishmael" pages 207-212 where solutions to save the planet would be done in the same way as the Industrial Revolution was done, by people building on each other's inventive ideas. Focus must be given on how people can live WITHOUT giving birth to more filthy human children since those new additions continue pollution and are pollution. A game show format contest would be in order. Perhaps also forums of leading scientists who understand and agree with the Malthus-Darwin science and the problem of human overpopulation. Do both. Do all until something WORKS and the natural world starts improving and human civilization building STOPS and is reversed! MAKE IT INTERESTING SO PEOPLE WATCH AND APPLY SOLUTIONS!!!!

2. All programs on Discovery Health-TLC must stop encouraging the birth of any more parasitic human infants and the false heroics behind those actions. In those programs' places, programs encouraging human sterilization and infertility must be pushed. All former pro-birth programs must now push in the direction of stopping human birth, not encouraging it.

3. All programs promoting War and the technology behind those must cease. There is no sense in advertising weapons of mass-destruction anymore. Instead, talk about ways to disassemble civilization and concentrate the message in finding SOLUTIONS to solving global military mechanized conflict. Again, solutions solutions instead of just repeating the same old wars with newer weapons. Also, keep out the fraudulent peace movements. They are liars and fakes and had no real intention of ending the wars. ALL OF THEM ARE FAKE! On one hand, they claim they want the wars to end, on the other, they are demanding the human population increase. World War II had 2 Billion humans and after that war, the people decided that tripling the population would assure peace. WTF??? STUPIDITY! MORE HUMANS EQUALS MORE WAR!

4. Civilization must be exposed for the filth it is. That, and all its disgusting religious-cultural roots and greed. Broadcast this message until the pollution in the planet is reversed and the human population goes down! This is your obligation. If you think it isn't, then get hell off the planet! Breathe Oil! It is the moral obligation of everyone living otherwise what good are they??

5. Immigration: Programs must be developed to find solutions to stopping ALL immigration pollution and the anchor baby filth that follows that. Find solutions to stopping it. Call for people in the world to develop solutions to stop it completely and permanently. Find solutions FOR these countries so they stop sending their breeding populations to the US and the world to seek jobs and therefore breed more unwanted pollution babies. FIND SOLUTIONS FOR THEM TO STOP THEIR HUMAN GROWTH AND THE EXPORTATION OF THAT DISGUSTING FILTH! (The first world is feeding the population growth of the Third World and those human families are going to where the food is! They must stop procreating new humans looking for nonexistant jobs!)

6. Find solutions for Global Warming, Automotive pollution, International Trade, factory pollution, and the whole blasted human economy. Find ways so that people don't build more housing pollution which destroys the environment to make way for more human filth! Find solutions so that people stop breeding as well as stopping using Oil in order to REVERSE Global warming and the destruction of the planet!

7. Develop shows that mention the Malthusian sciences about how food production leads to the overpopulation of the Human race. Talk about Evolution. Talk about Malthus and Darwin until it sinks into the stupid people's brains until they get it!!

8. Saving the Planet means saving what's left of the non-human Wildlife by decreasing the Human population. That means stopping the human race from breeding any more disgusting human babies! You're the media, you can reach enough people. It's your resposibility because you reach so many minds!!!

9. Develop shows that will correct and dismantle the dangerous US world economy. Find solutions for their disasterous Ponzi-Casino economy before they take the world to another nuclear war.

10. Stop all shows glorifying human birthing on all your channels and on TLC. Stop Future Weapons shows or replace the dialogue condemning the people behind these developments so that the shows become exposes rather than advertisements of Arms sales and development!

11. You're also going to find solutions for unemployment and housing. All these unemployed people makes me think the US is headed toward more war.

Humans are the most destructive, filthy, pollutive creatures around and are wrecking what's left of the planet with their false morals and breeding culture.

For every human born, ACRES of wildlife forests must be turned into farmland in order to feed that new addition over the course of 60 to 100 YEARS of that new human's lifespan! THIS IS AT THE EXPENSE OF THE FOREST CREATURES!!!! All human procreation and farming must cease!

It is the responsiblity of everyone to preserve the planet they live on by not breeding any more children who will continue their filthy practices. Children represent FUTURE catastrophic pollution whereas their parents are current pollution. NO MORE BABIES! Population growth is a real crisis. Even one child born in the US will use 30 to a thousand times more resources than a Third World child. It's like a couple are having 30 babies even though it's just one! If the US goes in this direction maybe other countries will too!

Also, war must be halted. Not because it's morally wrong, but because of the catastrophic environmental damage modern weapons cause to other creatures. FIND SOLUTIONS JUST LIKE THE BOOK SAYS! Humans are supposed to be inventive. INVENT, DAMN YOU!!

The world needs TV shows that DEVELOP solutions to the problems that humans are causing, not stupify the people into destroying the world. Not encouraging them to breed more environmentally harmful humans.

Saving the environment and the remaning species diversity of the planet is now your mindset. Nothing is more important than saving them. The Lions, Tigers, Giraffes, Elephants, Froggies, Turtles, Apes, Raccoons, Beetles, Ants, Sharks, Bears, and, of course, the Squirrels.

The humans? The planet does not need humans.

You MUST KNOW the human population is behind all the pollution and problems in the world, and YET you encourage the exact opposite instead of discouraging human growth and procreation. Surely you MUST ALREADY KNOW this!

I want Discovery Communications to broadcast on their channels to the world their new program lineup and I want proof they are doing so. I want the new shows started by asking the public for inventive solution ideas to save the planet and the remaining wildlife on it.

These are the demands and sayings of Lee.

James J. Lee, http://savetheplanetprotest.com/ 114 Comments [9/2/2010 9:19:11 AM]
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Submitted By: Locke

Quote# 83648

Now, many (especially the atheists), may ask "Why do this, what's the purpose?" Duhhh, Mr. Atheist for the same purpose many States put the names and photos of convicted sex offenders and other ex-felons on the I-Net - to INFORM the public! I mean, in the City of Miramar, Florida, where I live, the population is approx. 109,000. My family and I would sure like to know how many of those 109,000 are ADMITTED atheists! Perhaps we may actually know some. In which case we could begin to witness to them and warn them of the dangers of atheism. Or perhaps they are radical atheists, whose hearts are as hard as Pharaoh's, in that case, if they are business owners, we would encourage all our Christian friends, as well as the various churches and their congregations NOT to patronize them as we would only be "feeding" Satan.

Frankly, I don't see why anyone would oppose this idea - including the atheists themselves (unless of course, they're actually ashamed of their atheist religion, and would prefer to stay in the 'closet.').

"Pastor Mike", Blogger 102 Comments [9/7/2011 3:23:33 AM]
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Submitted By: Jud

Quote# 64964

Topic: Atheists should be stripped off parental rights

Before I speak, let us ask God to give us the wisdom to come to a rational decision. In the name of the Father, his only Son Jesus Christ and Holy Ghost, Amen!

I had an interesting talk with my pastor the other day. I showed him the posts of one "atheist female" from these boards and he was horrified to see that she is a mother. Hundreds of Christian women are unable to have children because Satan gives children to atheistic females. It's a also fact that atheistic females have a sexual contact with males outside the holy wedlock, for they are sinful and full of lust. They don't have right to carry children in their wombs. It is illegal and against the word of God. I don't want my child who is 9 years old to go to the same school with the child whose godfather is Satan. No, no! I shall not tolerate this any longer! You atheists walk the earth only to blaspheme His Holy Name and His only Son Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost! How dare you? Live your pathetic lives and only when you surrender your life to the Christ shall you proliferate by the blessing of the Church.

God bless you all to find the way out of Satan and if not may he smite you if his vengeance for your filthy and life full of debauchery.

Anna Palatini, Facebook Atheist discussion board 114 Comments [8/20/2009 8:52:29 PM]
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Quote# 74989

Fundamentalist Christians are hijacking Religious Instruction (RI) classes in Queensland despite education experts saying Creationism and attempts to convert children to Christianity have no place in state schools.

Students have been told Noah collected dinosaur eggs to bring on the Ark, and Adam and Eve were not eaten by dinosaurs because they were under a protective spell.

Critics are calling for the RI program to be scrapped after claims emerged Christian lay people are feeding children misinformation.

About 80 per cent of children at state primary schools attend one half-hour instruction a week, open to any interested lay person to conduct.

...A parent of a Year 5 student on the Sunshine Coast said his daughter was ostracised to the library after arguing with her scripture teacher about DNA.

"The scripture teacher told the class that all people were descended from Adam and Eve," he said.

"My daughter rightly pointed out, as I had been teaching her about DNA and science, that 'wouldn't they all be inbred'?

"But the teacher replied that DNA wasn't invented then."



Queensland Religous Instructors, news.com.au 88 Comments [8/8/2010 3:32:46 AM]
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Submitted By: Damned at Random

Quote# 83119

How can you say "The Bible writers were wrong" but "the scientific writers are right?"

Were both not written by humans?

If science is just a conspiracy by the Illuminati, then science can not be relied upon.

If I told an atheist, "prove to me the sun is 93 million miles away from the Earth without consulting a scientific textbook" you wouldn't be able to do it.

I find it very unfair that atheists can cite scientific books as evidence but I can't cite the Bible as evidence.

Self-Mutation, Freethought & Rationalism Discussion Board 88 Comments [8/10/2011 10:12:47 AM]
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Submitted By: Tom S. Fox

Quote# 84388

So the people who brought slavery to an end, the Tea Partiers, evangelicals; they are the ones; that's the type of American that brought slavery to an end. Why? Because we rejected Sharia law and its legitimization of slavery and we said, "look. uh, slavery, the slave trade is wrong. It is pernicious. It's wicked. It's evil for people to be bought and sold like that; like chattel. It's a horrible offense against God and against His law." It was evangelical Christians that led the drive to abolish slavery. Don't ever forget that. That's a moment for which we, the evangelicals of the church of Jesus Christ can be justly and rightly proud. Don't let anybody take you away from that. The credit for the abolition of slavery goes to evangelical Christians.

Bryan Fischer, American Family Association 103 Comments [10/20/2011 3:20:40 AM]
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Submitted By: Wehpudicabok
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