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Quote# 45735

Today, in the car, after picking up my 16 year old son from school, he told me that he will not be attending church this Sunday. Shocked and confused, I asked him why he would say such a horrible thing, and he said it's because he doesn't believe in God anymore. Apparently a child at his school has been going around telling the other children that God is not real, apparently the child is an “atheist”. I asked my son why he would believe such a horrible thing and he said “because there’s no proof that God exists.” I told him that the proof is everywhere, I told him that the proof is in the bible, yet he still believes the horrible lie that child has been spreading around. I spoke to my husband about this and we’re not sure what we’re going to do, but we’ve called the school and the school district and filed a complaint about the lies that child is spreading. It clearly has something to do with the parents of that child, so I’ve encouraged the principal to contact CPS to look into the situation. As for our son, we’re not sure what we should do. It’s horrible to think that our own son is committing a horrible sin by denying the existence of the lord.

Please help, what do we do?

~ Maria ~, Yahoo Answers 65 Comments [8/24/2008 6:06:34 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 138915

CABLE GUY: Cable guy here, with the first 4 letters of the alphabet:

Strzok's plan worked right brilliant, but those 'smelly Walmart' people didn't like his commie candidate, and elected them a REAL president!

On to Plan B: IMPEACH!
If I was that Putin feller, I'd heap rather have Hillary in there as president. Just another checker player like Obama, and Putin sure mopped up the floor with that guy! Impeach is dead, and the dems keep whippin' that poor ol' horse, but he's down for the count!

Plan C: Obstruct, and take back congress
The dems are holdin' up over a thousand folks that need to get appointed, but Trump's gettin' 'er done anyway! What's this for givin' Strzok a purple heart? What a slap in the face to military folks he looks down his nose at! But those crazy dems just keep on shootin' themselves in the foot.

Plan D: Violence and anarchy
If you can't get control of the house, then burn it down. That's the globalist plan anyhow--turn America into Europe. Those wide-open borders are a great way to commit suicide!

And there it is like a dead fish on the pier at high noon. Phew!

Mick Williams, Disqus - Faith & Religion 7 Comments [7/16/2018 12:49:29 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 45700

" It's not just sex, and it does mean something. It means that the people exercising homosexual activities are;

1. In violation of the Christian God's rules, rules that if consistently ignored can cause the loss of everlasting life.

2. A crime against nature

Isn't it interesting how every homosexual, bisexual, lesbian, I've ever encountered, is unstable, wierd, junkie,unhappy,broke, and normally not a nice person. "

uh uh, Coeur d'Alene Press 53 Comments [8/24/2008 8:20:08 AM]
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Submitted By: sooze

Quote# 45769

When a cultist approaches me and begins prostelytizing I do not allow them to waste their time or mine by debating.

Instead I politely present the Gospel in the simplest terms possible. I always emphasize how deeply Jesus loves them by sacrificing His life for them. This is usually when the "deer in the headlights" look appears but it's OK -- at least they heard what they needed to hear.

One thing I learned years ago is to NEVER allow cult members, New Age believers, or whatever to go on lecturing at length. We have the AUTHORITY in Christ to lovingly yet boldly cover over their blasphemies with His truth! (nodding smilie)

BarbT, RaptureReady 33 Comments [8/24/2008 1:10:05 PM]
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Quote# 45710

Even the most brilliant atheist minds can not understand the simple concept God used in Noah and his family. God could have destroyed every animal on earth and started over again without two of every kind but God used Noah for many years as he was building the ark to warn sinful man of the impending FLOOD. NOBODY listened and in fact I'm sure they joked and laughed. Man is NO DIFFERENT today than they were 4000 years ago. God can easily repopulate the earths animals as He sees fit.

bornagain001, YouTube 32 Comments [8/24/2008 1:13:57 PM]
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Submitted By: randomcollision

Quote# 45720

The people of Noah's day had never even seen rain, so the idea of a flood was completely foreign to them.

[See also posts further down in the same thread, agreeing with the idea that the Flood was the first time it ever rained.]

ZeldaCA, RaptureReady 30 Comments [8/24/2008 1:16:20 PM]
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Submitted By: Patrick

Quote# 138952

You’re drawn to the Church because your conscience is seared from your sin and there’s a force compelling you towards repentance. And if you have even a single sin to repent for then you need Jesus. (And we all do)

You’re drawn to the Church because God created everything in the universe and despite your attempts to force yourself to believe in some form of atheism or agnosticism and Darwinism you feel compelled to think that there is a Creator and a higher purpose. (And there is)

You’re drawn to the Church because God created you with a God-sized hole in your heart that only He can fill. And you’ve tried filling it with everything else and nothing seems to satisfy the longing for “more”—even though you can’t yet describe that longing and aren’t ready yet to admit that it’s for God. (And it is)

You’re on your way friend. Humble yourself. Seek God in prayer with ALL your heart, soul, mind, and strength. God is already pursuing you, that is why you feel compelled. You’re the prodigal son. God is waiting for you to come home. Go to Him, He will run out to meet you!

God bless.

Brian S. Holmes , Quora 5 Comments [7/17/2018 12:47:16 PM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 138953

Christ IS NOT MY LORD. Why do I feel I belong?

You sound pretty angry at the thought of having Jesus as your Lord. Much more angry than someone who has no use for God would have and display. Usually they just go on in silence and not try to convince anyone of Him not being their Lord. Who are you trying to convince? Us? Or, maybe yourself…

You sound like it is a real struggle for you as you know He should be your Lord, but you still defy His words and rebell against Him.

That's a that's a pretty common place to be my friend; but you need to make a decision. Are you going to make a decision for Christ or decision against Him? Jesus doesn't want people who are half and half on the fence. He says in Revelation 3:16 that He would rather people be either on fire for Him or ice cold…not lukewarm.

I understand your struggle and your resistance, but be honest- what is holding you back? What reason do you have to not want to accept Christ?

As I tell everyone - salvation is free. As in, no cost to you. God gives it out to all who ask for it and accept it by faith in Christ. The alternative is you paying for your sins yourself. And that is going to require you being out of God's presence (hell) for all eternity because you can't possibly work hard enough or do enough to pay for your sin debt.

But Jesus can pay for it and He has. And He wants to apply it to your account. All you have to do is ask for it and take it.

So again I ask - what's holding you back from that? Are you happy living on the fence? Your heart is telling you it's the right thing to do, but your sinful side is telling you don't do it.

Surely you must have some reasons for not wanting to accept Christ . Is it lack of evidence that keeps you back or do you not like the thought of giving your life over to God and doing what He says and being obedient to Him ? Is there something perhaps in your lifestyle that you don't want to give up?

You don't have to answer those questions obviously as they are rhetorical. But just think about why you're rejecting Christ and what your reasons are…and ask yourself - are those good reasons? Are they good enough to put my eternity at stake?

I'll leave those words with you for you to struggle with and talk to God about. But if you ask me, you are making a foolish mistake if you choose not to accept Christ. There are infinite pluses and no negatives to it.

You're not going to find a better deal anywhere else. God offers you eternal life for free, but keep in mind that the deal ends when your life ends - that's when they both expire.

Bob Triez, Quora 1 Comments [7/17/2018 12:47:43 PM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 138933


Christians who believe in Jesus Christ and adhere to the teachings of the Bible have great cause of concern should the claims of universal reconciliation (UR) succeed. Here are 10 of the leading teachings of UR followed immediately by the serious and surprising implications.

Teaching #1: Love is the supreme attribute of God. His other attributes (holiness, justice, righteousness) are limited by his love. “God cannot act apart from love” (The Shack, 102). “Mercy triumphs over judgement because of love” (TS, 164).

Implications: (1) Out of logical necessity, God ceases to be God. For God to be God means that he is perfect in all his attributes. No one attribute is greater than another. If this is not the case, then some attributes would be imperfect, incomplete, and some standard outside of God would be the measure of God—and this is impossible. Thus by affirming that love is the supreme attribute of God UR has created a defective deity. God ceases to be God. (2) Humans have no standard by which to set the appropriate judgment and punishment for crimes. (3) Ultimately Jesus’ death on the cross is unnecessary. Jesus did not need to die for sins because God would have loved people enough to take them to heaven and his justice did not need to be fully satisfied. (4) Ultimately the incarnation of Jesus was unnecessary, because love as the supreme attribute would have brought all to God apart from the justice demanded by an eternal death for sin. (5) Sin is not so bad after all. (6) The Bible is untrustworthy, for it never limits any of God's attributes or exalts one over another.
Note: This is probably the most central and far-reaching claim of UR; and it is the most heretical. (2) Many of these implications apply to other teachings below.

Teaching #2: God has already reconciled all people to himself by Jesus’ death on the cross. He has already removed the hostility between himself and people (TS, 192, 222).
Implication: (1) If reconciliation is already true for all, then there is no need to preach the gospel about Jesus Christ. (2) There is no need for people to believe in order to appropriate reconciliation. They already possess it.

Teaching #3: People either repent and believe the gospel before they die, or those who go to hell after dying will repent and believe the gospel, and then go to heaven. All go to heaven. Those people in hell change their destiny.

Implications: (1) There is no need to preach the gospel; no need to be engaged in missions or outreach. (2) The Bible is incomplete and untrustworthy here for it nowhere states that anyone can change his destiny after dying. (3) The entire record of church history is filled with the misplaced emphasis on trying to reach the world with the good news. (4) Jesus is untrustworthy for he commanded his people to go to the whole world and preach the gospel (Matt 28:19-20). He taught that there are two destinies, one leading to life, the other leading to destruction (Matt 7:13-14).

Teaching #4: God does not punish sin. He seeks to cure it. Sin is its own punishment (TS, 120).

Implication: (1) There is no future judgment after death when all stand before God as Judge to receive punishment for their sins (2 Cor 10. (2) The Biblical account of judgments on individuals and nations (Adam and Eve, Cain, the generation of the Flood, the Tower of Babel, the people of Canaan, Israel and Judah because of idolatry, on Jesus at the cross) are not trustworthy.

Teaching #5: At the finality of all things the fallen angels and the Devil himself will all repent and go to heaven—and hell is no more.

Implications: (1) The sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross was/is unnecessary. There is another way to get to heaven, since the death of Jesus on the cross did not concern the sin of angels. (2) Heaven is unsafe because Satan could rebel against God in the distant future. With his past experience he could believe that his future rebellion would be more successful. (3) A future rebellion of Satan could be repeated ad infinitum, but this is impossible. (4) Jesus work on the cross to provide forgiveness for all people was not final. (5) If there is no hell there is no heaven; there is no need for heaven.

Teaching #6: Since Jesus between his death and resurrection went to hell to proclaim salvation to those there, then he could go a thousand times more to deliver others who have gone there since.

Implications: (1) It is not a convincing interpretation of certain texts that Jesus ever did this (see Eph. 4:8-10; 1 Pet. 3:18-20; 4:6). (2) Even if this happened then, there are no words from Jesus or from the Apostles that say that he will do this again.

Teaching #7: Hell is not as we have believed it. Hell is not a place of God’s everlasting punishment but of purging, correcting, reproving people so that given enough time all depart Hell (TS, 162-164).

Implications: (1) If there is no hell there is no heaven, for in the end heaven and hell are indistinguishable. (2) Jesus is untrustworthy because he warned of “everlasting torment” (Matt 25:41). (3) Then we humans have no standard by which to exert penalties and punishment for crimes done on earth.

Teaching #8: There is no place left in the universe where God’s love has not conquered all. He is totally victorious. None are left in rebellion against God. All are brought into submission by love.

Implications: (1) Then the will of some to refuse to believe the gospel is voided. (2) Then God did not will to create humanity with a will to be able to choose not to believe.

Teaching #9: The institutions of marriage, the church, and the government are the “man-created, trinity of terrors that ravages the earth and deceives those I care about. . . . It’s all false” and part of “a diabolical scheme” (TS, 122-124; 179).

Implications: (1) Then the devil is in control. (2) Jesus is untrustworthy, since he said that he would build his church (Matt 16). The Bible says that Jesus is head of the church (Eph 2:19-22; 3:6-11; 4:14-16; 5:23), that he loves the church and died for it (Eph 5:25). (3) The Bible is untrustworthy since it describes God as forming marriage (Gen 2; Eph 5:25-33) and instituting government (Rom 13:1-6). (4) Then there are no duly constituted authorities delegated by God. (5) Thus all acts of anarchy and terrorism are justified. (6) All forms of marriage and non-marriage are equally legitimate; no form is better than any other (including LGBTQ forms). (7) Divorce for any reason is legitimate. (8) Adultery and prostitution are as legitimate as marriage. (9) The family structure has no value. (10) Church structures with elders, deacons, bishops, a constitution or faith statement are all Satanic and wrong. (11) Christian gatherings are demonic.

Teaching #10: People are in a “circle of relationship” with God that is pure, having no authority and no subordination to God (TS, 122-124).

Implications: (1) Then Jesus’ commandments to obey him and to love others (as in John 14 16) are to be disobeyed; and P Young is to be obeyed. (2) The church should not submit to Jesus (contra Eph 5:24). (3) Jesus’ claim to have “all authority in heaven and earth” is false (Matt 28:19). (4) Jesus is not to be acknowledged as Lord, King, Head of the church, Prince of peace, the Mighty God, the everlasting Father, Savior, Master, etc. (4) Then believers should not “submit to one another out of reverence for Christ” (contra Eph 5:21). (5) All relationships will fail, since it is impossible to sustain “pure relationships” without structure and in a manner that benefits everyone.

In light of the preceding it is clear that UR can never succeed. It corresponds to no reality. It represents a man-centered theology. It has been tried many times before (the Garden of Eden for one place) and has always failed. But there is the constant need for vigilance to refute it, as Paul and the other Apostles instruct us (Eph. 2:1-2; 6:10-18), to be aware of false prophets and teachers as both Jesus (Matt. 7:13) and the Apostles warn (2 Cor. 11).

James De Young, Eric Barger Ministries 8 Comments [7/17/2018 6:30:14 AM]
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Submitted By: CC

Quote# 45987

there are many many reasons why atheists are bad parents and un-fit to raise kids but the only one that LAWS should be used to stop them is a law that says only god fearing bible reading parents can have kids. if the bible is gods word(manual for living) and a person does not read it than how can they know how to raise kids? answer me that? how can they teach them what is right and what is wrong? how can they pray vfor god to watch over them and halp when things get bad. athiests are sooooo stupid and incompentant. how/why can they be trusted with kids?

Tim Cosgrove, Stupid Athiests 55 Comments [8/27/2008 3:25:48 AM]
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Submitted By: rfmwinnie

Quote# 138911

Gaymaxx theory

Gay people have the most sex.
If average male has 2-3 sex partners
The gay counterpart has about 70
Just go on March naked and fondle some cute guys balls.
Insant lay, also you will get some nice attention

Ubercel, incels.me 14 Comments [7/16/2018 7:38:37 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 138907

But since, as the Bible says, a homosexual who becomes a Christian ceases to be a Christian, it is likelihood is that it would be considered 'conversion therapy'.

Martin, Premier 8 Comments [7/16/2018 7:38:15 AM]
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Submitted By: CC

Quote# 138908

Peter LaBarbera Is Upset ‘Love, Simon’ Did Not Mention The ‘Judgment Of God’ On Gay People

Anti-LGBTQ activist Peter LaBarbera was, unsurprisingly, not a fan of the new gay teenage romance film “Love, Simon,” complaining to Religious Right radio host Janet Mefferd on Tuesday that the film fails to promote a “religious message” and does not warn audiences that gay people face a life of physical and mental illness “and of course the judgment of God.”

LaBarbera joined Mefferd on Tuesday to weigh in on the release of “Love, Simon,” which is a romantic comedy film that features a 17-year-old boy who reveals his sexual orientation to his friends and family and falls in love with a classmate. LaBarbera, who has long been livid about the entertainment industry advancing LGBTQ causes, shared with Mefferd what he saw to be “three myths” promoted in the film.

“Number one is that being homosexual—quote-unquote ‘gay’—is basically who you are, intrinsically who you are. You know, if that line just happens to be gay. That’s number one. Number two, that there’s a total mutual equivalence between homosexual romances and the gay lifestyle and normal, heterosexual living, so it’s presented as totally equal. Number three, that parental love, the way they love their son after he comes out and declares his homosexuality or they find out, the parents, is they just basically express regret they didn’t know earlier,” he said. “There’s no sorrow. There’s no religious message at all in the movie, Janet, and there’s nothing that says any disapproval.”

LaBarbera said he believed the movie was “like a Disney gay movie” that was made for teenagers before complaining that “there’s no aftermath after this boy finds his quote-unquote ‘gay’ romance.”

“We’re never going to hear later about the diseases associated with homosexuality that he likely would get, mental illness, and of course the judgment of God,” LaBarbera said.

Mefferd asked LaBarbera to expand on what he meant when he referred to mental illness, to which LaBarbera responded by promoting the book “The Health Hazards of Homosexuality,” published by the anti-gay group MassResistence. He claimed that conditions like HIV are now “gay male diseases,” claiming that this is the case “because homosexual behavior is a perversion like God says it is, it is deviant, it is not normal.”

LaBarbera also said he was upset that “Love, Simon” posed the question of why heterosexual people don’t have to come out as “straight” to their friends and family. He answered the question by saying it was “because that’s the way God designed it.”

“It’s so basic and yet Hollywood is doing everything it can now. We’re going to see more and more movies like this. And Janet, this is the first major teen homosexual romance film to be a big box-office hit. And so this is, again, Hollywood is trying to mainstream sexual sin,” LaBarbera said.

Peter LaBarbera, Right Wing Watch 11 Comments [7/16/2018 7:38:20 AM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 138832

Something very significant that happened just now.

Very recently I was in my room and all of a sudden the door opened by itself. Out of the door emerged someone who looked exactly like me, holding a crucifix. He performed a Holy spell causing my soul to escape my body and enter his causing our consciousnesses to merge into one and have memories of both selves. It turns out that he is me from a parralel universe where Charles John Montague Manners became King of England, France, and as a result of him defeating the EU during the warfare, he also became Holy Roman Emperor.

I took my former body through the portal, entering a castle. There were guards who said that they will take care of the body and took the body away. The guard also told me to go back to this universe..

I came back to this universe and the portal closed.

In the parralel universe, Charles Manners was successful until his friend was seduced into having romantic extramarital sex which caused events which led to the Sword of Excalibur to be destroyed which caused England to be supernaturally cursed with a plague that wiped out England’s entire population.

I will be making animated YouTube videos documenting events in the parralel universe to promote the legitimacy cause for this universe since it failed in the other. The moral of the story is that you should not have extra marital sex.

Jacob Harrison, FSTDT Forums 63 Comments [7/13/2018 5:26:01 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 45818

first thing this morning (not awake) i read, "Obama names Biden as running mate".........and Osama Bin Laden comes immediately to mind..

MovinOnUp, RaptureReady 37 Comments [8/24/2008 10:10:20 PM]
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Quote# 1461

Besides no one really takes Darwin’s ideas seriously any longer – except those who still depend on those school science text books which haven’t been up dated in soooo long, Darwin might have been on some of their advisory boards.

romah, Christian Website Talk! 13 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 45749

[After another member claims to be a Christian teen]

What kind of "Christian" answers can a "teen" possibly answer? And what kind of language is "pissed off" for a Christian? You are in way over your head on this site dear mis-guided young one.


55-year-old REAL Christian, as opposed to one in self-proclaimed "name" only.

Now come back with a Biblical answer so I can blow you out of the water and reveal you for the fraud you really are.

Beroiaios, Yahoo! Answers 38 Comments [8/24/2008 1:19:08 PM]
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Submitted By: doomie 22

Quote# 45752

(Obama said China's infrastructure is better than ours. Which of course translated means "OBAMA LOVES COMMUNISM")

Hussein just loves bashing America. And he has the gall to praise China, who is the biggest human rights violator on the planet?

Perhaps he would like the U.S. to raise to the standards of a communist country?

We don't need this anti-American as our president.

We would never be able to recuperate.

mercyandgrace, RaptureReady 39 Comments [8/24/2008 1:20:01 PM]
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Submitted By: Smith

Quote# 45728

Am I wrong? Some Christians say so?
I am sure you all know of the plane that crashed in Spain earlier this week. But while many of you may be upset, I am not. Spain began allowing homosexual marriage in July of 2005. They spit in the face of God. And now God has finally enacted retribution on them. If you are a true Christian will be rejoicing in God's righteous judgments.
The Bible says:

"I will praise thee with uprightness of heart, when I shall have learned thy righteous judgments" (Psalm 119:7)

"At midnight I will rise to give thanks unto thee because of thy righteous judgments" (Psalm 119:62)

The moment I heard of this I bowed my head, got on one knee and prayed with thanks. I thanked God for his righteous judgments upon the earth.

If you are a real Christian you know that these words are true and that we are in the end of days.

Are you a real Christian? I know I am.

AEA, Yahoo Answers 47 Comments [8/24/2008 7:55:47 PM]
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Submitted By: Lola Flores

Quote# 45745

Question [which was stolen from Epicurus]:

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able, and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God.

[The fundy answer]

No, he allows evil and he is capable to do anything. Judgement day will come.

strats!!, Yahoo!Answers 35 Comments [8/24/2008 8:06:38 PM]
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Submitted By: Malkavian Jeff

Quote# 45732

Are Atheists guilty of intellectual obscurantism and obfuscation?

Any idiot can say they don't believe in God, or in anything for that matter.

Any idiot can retort "where's the evidence, I haven't see it" ,rather than look for it.

Yet, this is the very attitude that the Atheists have. They simply wallow in the filth of their own ignorance and disdain.

Isn't it time we declared them to be GUILTY of crimes against the intellect and passed sentence on them?

And who better to be God's executioner and rod than myself, Pastor Winthrop?

Pastor Winthrop III, Yahoo Answers 54 Comments [8/24/2008 8:11:54 PM]
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Submitted By: Lola Flores

Quote# 45787

Darwinism was disproved long ago. It should not be taught in the educational curriculum what so ever. I personally am going to enroll my daughter in Christian school as soon as possible, because I do not want her to be exposed to secular world philosophies.

jaslynne, Myspace 32 Comments [8/24/2008 9:22:28 PM]
Fundie Index: 7
Submitted By: Thejebusfire

Quote# 45721

To all who do not believe in Jesus, why do you want to go to hell?

Jesus freak, Yahoo Answers 55 Comments [8/24/2008 9:29:40 PM]
Fundie Index: 5
Submitted By: J Arcenas

Quote# 45734

athiests are sooooo stupid and incompentant. how/why can they be trusted with kids? my papa hated god. he was an asshole and left my mama when she was sick. she died and he never came back for us. i lived with some relatives i didnt know. how fucked up is gthat? if he read the BIBLE and got to know god he wouldnt have fucked up so bad. see? that is proof! the BIBLE will never fail you.

Tim Cosgrove, Stupid Athiests Blog 57 Comments [8/24/2008 9:29:41 PM]
Fundie Index: 12
Submitted By: Mrs.Beez

Quote# 45774

[There's making stuff up and then there's making stupid stuff up. The entire thread is disturbing....they really believe there was no rain before The Great Flood.]

The people of Noah's day had never even seen rain, so the idea of a flood was completely foreign to them. But Noah was known as a good man, and what's sad is that no one listened to him, though he was known for his goodness and wisdom.

He really did try to warn them, too, but for them to acknowledge he might be right, they would have had to make a change in their lifestyle of working for immediate and pleasureable rewards, such as money and material goods and possibly even pick up a hammer and work hard on something where the end benefit was not immediately apparant. In the end they just continued doing what they were comfortable with.

I believe in the story of the ark as 100 percent true, yet is also a startling parable for today's times.

ZeldaCA, Rapture Ready 15 Comments [8/24/2008 9:30:50 PM]
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Submitted By: Democritus
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