Quote# 137482

I am proud to be a true bigot for the cause of Christ. (in the true sense of the word or Word)

disqus_Equ8Ljg8OS , Politico 12 Comments [3/25/2018 1:31:42 PM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 137452

(full exchange posted here quoted is the other poster)

Marriage makes someone your family. All the griping about how gays need marriage without even knowing what is, smdh

wut?


I mean your spouse is close family, even closer than your parents. That's what marriage means, that's the whole basis of the "hospital visits" people said were so important


Yeah I got that
The bringing in the gays part


I mean liberals who demanded so loudly for gay marriage, often don't even know what marriage is. Marriage is a lifelong commitment, a serious responsibility. Divorce is a perversion, a wrong, an evil. Making perversion the norm and responsibility the exception, as the OP advocates, stems from a complete absence of distinction

The Parkus Empire, nationstates 19 Comments [3/24/2018 3:25:21 AM]
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Submitted By: zyr

Quote# 137465

Could Have.
It sure is dark.
I sit groggily upright, supporting my upper body with one outstretched arm, the palm of my hand pressed against what feels like smooth, cold concrete. My other hand
rubs an eye as I squint to adjust my sight. My efforts, however, are in vain: this darkness is eerily impenetrable. There mustn't be a single light source here......which does
nothing to help explain just where the hell I am.
"Hello? I call into the ebony void.
I listen to the acoustics of my voice. It sounds contained, as if I'm in a room, and at the same time......it seems to go on forever, like I'm in a canyon. Bizarre.
Another sound catches my attention. A familiar, electronic hum from behind me. I turn, startled, and face an ominously glowing monitor, its light illuminating little more than the desk it rests upon. I fumble blindly for the chair latent before it, and seat myself, squinting as I began to discern what was onscreen.
Well, I'll be damned! It's that old fiction website I used to visit as an adolescent! I take a hold of the mouse and muse fondly over my own writings for a short period of
time. Now that's what I call a witty repartee! I feel profoundly nostalgic reading this.....it's comforting to know that my hard-lined stance against Christianity is just as
prominent today as it was when I was a teenager, campaigning against whatever ridiculous notion they were trying to prove on this website.
And yet, I can't shake this weird sense of unease as I read. Thoughts begin to pass through my head. Thoughts along the lines of why the hell are pages exclusively surrounding what I wrote some twenty odd years ago being displayed to me on a remote computer terminal in a pitch black room? Is this some sort of government experiment?
I sit back after reading a flame I had once written and am startled to realise that I'm perspiring - though the room is a moderate, comfortable temperature. I twiddle my fingers against my thighs absent-mindedly, incapable of shaking this rising feeling of unexplained dread. What is going on here?!
More importantly, where did this open Bible come from? I cast a dubious glance at the pages, frowning to note they're empty bar two verses.
......for the wages of sin is death......
and
......nobody comes to the Father, except through me......
Huh. Profoundly pointless. That's Christianity in a nutshell. I close the book and fold my arms across my chest, leaning back in the chair and narrowing my eyes at the monitor pensively. All of a sudden, I'm scared witless to note that the screen's glow illuminates the face of a man standing behind it.
"Who are you?" I cry, staggering backwards, not pretending to mask my fear with a facade of contempt anymore.
The man stands there in contemplative silence. Though the blue light of the screen casts unsettling shadows across his face, I can still see the look of inquisitiveness in his deep, dark eyes. Not breaking the gaze, he slowly circles the desk, and rests against it.
"You know who I am," he says simply, his rich voice attempting to be monotone and unfeeling, but unable to hide his unhappiness.
Chillingly, this man is correct. I know exactly who he is. And from that, I can deduce where I am......
Oh no. Oh God, no.
The man nods, turning his eyes away and staring off into the void, sadly.
I try to say something as my frantic eyes dart between the Bible, the man and the screen. My mouth opens and closes several times in succession, before he meets my gaze again, and I am overwhelmed by a bitter, bitter hybrid of guilt and terror. I double over and vomit pungent bile onto the cold concrete, then fall to my knees and gasp for air as the thick, acrid juice dangles from my trembling lip.
But there's no time for this. Now that I'm aware of what's happened, I stumble to my feet and wipe my mouth, looking to the man pleadingly, accusingly.
"This is not fair!" I scream, not bothering to break the situation down piece-by-piece. "Not fair! Why wasn't I given forewarning? Why didn't you show yourself?'
The man doesn't even blink. He just looks at me with weary eyes, as if he'd heard that one on countless occasions. He gestures for me to look at the monitor once more, and I frenetically oblige, squinting through my tears to see what was there.
My legs buckled involuntarily as I scrolled down.
Dozens, maybe hundreds of posts by Christians, followers of this man beside me, demonstrating his love for me in plain freaking English! Demonstrating this simple dynamic that only now am I willing to accept!
A heaving sob wracks my chest. There is only one thing for me to do.
"Lord, I'm sorry!" I wail, falling at his feet and grasping his robes, "You are the Christ, and I'm sorry! I'm s-so sorry......"
I whimper and shriek like a child at his feet. Never before have I felt so afraid.
I feel beads of moisture fall through my hair. His tears are also flowing, however much restraint he is trying to exercise. But the truth of the matter remains. My fate is sealed. Sealed here in the darkness. I turn my tear streaked face towards him once more as his perfect face gazes down at me resignedly.
"I never knew you," he says simply.
Those words capitalize a thousand explanations in my reeling mind. He had, in effect, said, You rejected me, though I offered you life every day. A lifetime of supposed intellectual integrity means nothing compared to an alternative you once dismissed and held in unbelieving contempt.
I knew I had no-one to blame but myself. And I weep. Not choked sobs, but long, howling wails of despair as I felt his robes slip from between my fingers. I suspend my twisted face above the pool of sick and yell into it, distraught and destroyed.
"What kind of God would allow this to happen to His own creation?"! bellow as he grows further and further away, the salty tears flowing into my mouth. "The kind that gives His creation the freedom of choice they both deserve and desire," he says distantly as he walks away.
I stand upright and go to follow him, but am powerless to do so. My eyes wander miserably to the Bible, opened again and exhibiting verses I'd read before, but literally chose not to understand. Verses explaining just how fair and reasonable the premise of following Christ is. I gasp in horror as I watch the monitor begin to dim.
"No!" I cry, hitting it. "No, don't die! No, please?'
Again, my efforts are in vain. The last thing I ever see is the written expression of my denial of everything that man stands for. I feel it disintegrate in my hands, and am left with nothing. Just the darkness.
I wander for a while, finally coming to wall composed of the same cold concrete the floor is made up of. I sit against it with my knees hugged to my chest, recounting the happy moments of my life, the moments of joy, of love. As if these delusions will tide me over until......until what? Until nothing! This is it. No end. Eternity. Forever.
I perk my ears and strain to hear through the darkness. It sounds like more weeping. Yes, I can the cries of others! The sounds escalate dramatically, and I hold my ears to drown it out, the resounding roar of hundreds of millions of damned souls, each of them writhing in their own everlasting regret, stuck with a worldly frame of mind in this accursed place. They all sound so close, and yet never have I felt so alone.
I rock back and forth, crying into my forearm despondently.
"I didn't ask for this......" I whisper.
No, a sinister voice tells me, You demanded it.
Guess what, peeps? I'm getting out of FF.Net. It angries up the blood, y'see, and presents a danger to what I believe by forcing me to retaliate out of fury instead of actual spiritual conviction. And that's just not on!
"So what are you trying to prove with this?" you may or may not ask. Well, a lot of people have been scoffing at the idea of 'coming to Christ out of fear of death/ as if the notion could possibly substitute for an actual relationship with the Lord.
Well, let me tell you this. Receiving Christ from a fear of hell is a heck of a lot better than not receiving him at all! At least, through that fear, you're accepting the truth of the matter, and from that acceptance, you're at every liberty to develop your relationship with Him, so that the fear is forgotten entirely, replaced by unprecedented appreciation for His sacrifice, and the awe-inspiringly simple, logical choice He's offered us. That's how it worked for me!
So repent! Discover for yourself what true freedom feels like, and don't disassociate yourself from the concept of hell just by saying it doesn't exist. Invite Christ into your heart and overcome even the possibility of a devastating afterlife in His name. Thank you for your time.
~WASABI~
PS: Also, could people stop exercising the term 'fuckwit'so liberally, please? It's the very embodiment of Neanderthal argumentative intelligence summarised in one unnecessary expletive, and contrived by the resident troll. Thanks again, and God bless!

Wasabi, Fanfiction.net 16 Comments [3/24/2018 11:41:36 PM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 137466

Peter Singer is a monster in human form. No society can be called healthy or sane which hasn’t strung the motherfucker up to a lamppost. His only real virtue is that he’s the perfect illustration of intellectualism as a mental deficiency disease rather than superior intelligence.

Is Peter Singer self aware while he sleeps? If not, what’s his moral objection to shooting him while he snoozes?

On the other hand, while I never liked either prospect, if I were willing to see half the world incinerated in nuclear fire rather than see my country fall to the reds, and I was, what’s my principled objection to aborting fifty million mostly future democratic, which is to say red, voters?

Tom Kratman, Declination 15 Comments [3/24/2018 11:42:10 PM]
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Submitted By: Citizen Justin

Quote# 137470

"...with deviants successfully lobbying many governments to normalize and promote their mental diseases and impose social acceptance of them on their citizens, anyone thus cured [of being gay] faces brutal persecution from the homofascist bigots who support these intolerant and oppressive perverts and the punitive psychiatry of their totalitarian regimes..."

brianmacker, TVTropes 15 Comments [3/24/2018 11:42:26 PM]
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Quote# 137386

The important distinction is that Seattle and Portland are obnoxiously PC because they don’t have many NAMs (or haven’t traditionally, though NAMs are migrating to the cities South of Seattle). There is an inverse correlation in obnoxiousness to one’s distance from a problem. Southerners are least obnoxiously PC because daily observable reality makes PC peter pan-ism too great an exercise in cognitive dissonance. In Seattle, with a black population of just over 7% and an Hispanic population just over 6%, your average Seattle SWPL need have no real contact with undesirable blacks and thus has fewer daily experiences that would disabuse them of their peter pan beliefs. Southerners, by comparison, have no real way to avoid coming into contact with undesirable blacks. It is also worth noting that northern blacks are, on average, more intelligent than southern blacks. Likely because the smarter of the group figured out how to leave Dixie back in the day.

Curie, Lion of the Blogosphere 9 Comments [3/24/2018 3:13:36 AM]
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Quote# 38248

Your an idiot... spelled IDIOT!!!

When i was in school the jews BlTCHED about saying the pledge of allegiance to our country flag...

As for you and your darwinian stupidity...

Your a true moron... if you believe if darwins saga... then you bleieve in slavery... because your ancestors are in cages at the zoo...

So pick one idiot... slavery or god...

Wow_here we go again, Topix 56 Comments [4/27/2008 3:50:07 AM]
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Submitted By: Fek'lhr

Quote# 38214

Christian men have always valued their women and treated them with great respect (and if they don’t then they aren’t Christians following Christian principles), but the media agenda has worked hard to hide this and to brainwash everyone into thinking they are a joke, with its focus on the occasional hipocrite such as a church leader who turns out to be gay.

whisper, Stuff white people like 25 Comments [4/27/2008 3:46:43 AM]
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Submitted By: xplicit_UK

Quote# 38295

We were at my daughter's school concert and all the kids were up front singing, and my 3 year old pointed to a spot (up front) and said, "There is Jesus." My husband and I just looked at eachother. We asked a few times and he kept pointing to the same spot and said the same thing. It was like he was kind of annoyed that we couldn't see what he was seeing. Then my son looked up to the ceiling and tracked something across the whole thing. I asked where Jesus was and he said ,"He went Bubbye."

He also told us that Jesus gave him a hug and kiss the night before when he was in bed. What do you think??!!

Miriam33, RaptureReady 82 Comments [4/27/2008 3:53:20 AM]
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Quote# 38246

No one has ever observed evolution. A bird that changes its beak size according to what region it is in is still called a bird. There is no proof of it in the fossil record. Just because you see a dinosaur in a fossil it doesn't mean it turned into an elephant or hippo. Where is the record of all the changes that supposedly occurred. THere is none. IF there were they would be in a museum somewhere.

mickey, Topix 47 Comments [4/27/2008 4:00:26 AM]
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Submitted By: Fek'lhr

Quote# 137448

(about Stephen Hawking)

I won't be a regular contributor to the board anymore, but wanted to see what was going on after I learned of the spinach man's sad passing. I'm sorry to hear he expired, Moose, and I sincerely hope the little munchkin repented and got to know his awesome God before he crossed over into the afterlife. If not, well... you know. Boiled spinach, right?

His4Life, FSTDT comments 17 Comments [3/24/2018 3:22:23 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 137394

in august they're having a meeting to amend the constitution to take white farmland by force. the way liberals for years have said would never happen. now liberals seem to think this is going to nit destroy the economy and lead to famine and mass violence because reasons. because some black guy in SA wrote an article about how taking the land by force from the productive white minority will be a good thing.

south africa disproves every
notion of blacks being able to maintain a modern industrial society handed to them. let alone build one.

and they're already attacking whites. now they will be able to do it in uniform with official documentation. then, when the nation collapses entirely and my family and friends are all brutally murdered by black mobs, i'll get to read about how it isn't about race and what a great guy mandela was and how this is just as bad as apartheid (my people ever wanting to be kept separate from the black communist hordes that have ruined my country entirely and still want more)

Not_shadowbanned_yet, Reddit 11 Comments [3/21/2018 11:41:57 AM]
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Quote# 137384

NYC is a zoo and it is, given the fact that there is a large NAM population mixed in with a White demographic.

All of us normal New Yorkers will come to grips that our city under the Giuliani and Bloomberg eras was only a status climbing phase, not that of a status de facto one.

A guy whom I encountered recently, who was from San Diego visiting the Big Apple for a month, told me that NYC is an overpriced dump, with large pockets of mediocrity at best, and larger pockets of dysfunctionality, as he was referring to Manhattan and the NAM areas surrounding it.

The only 2 SWPL friendly cities, free from liberal perversion are San Diego and Minneapolis.

TUJ (The Undiscovered Jew) will probably change his tune about our town, when more NAM problems begin to surface, making NYC a less desirable place to live, all thanks to Bill de Blasio.

How about SWPLs settling in neighboring Indianapolis, which is a basically the prole version of the Twin Cities?

There aren’t many desirable areas left in America; you have to put up with bad weather, proles or NAMs, and in the big liberal cities, a dose of everything that makes your day.

JS, Lion of the Blogosphere 7 Comments [3/24/2018 3:10:14 AM]
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Quote# 42582

The construction of any biblical model of recolonization must include these principles. The model suggested on the following pages is constructed in good faith, to explain the observed facts through the “eyeglasses” of the Bible. The Bible is inspired, but our scientific models are not. If we subsequently find the model to be untenable, this would not shake our commitment to the absolute authority of Scripture.

The model uses the multiplication of dogs as an example of how animals could have quickly repopulated the earth. Two dogs came off Noah’s Ark and began breeding more dogs. Within a relatively short time period, there would be an incredible number of dogs of all sorts of different shapes and sizes.

These dogs then began to spread out from the Ararat region to all parts of the globe.
As these dogs spread around the world, variations within the dog kind led to many of the varieties we find today. But it is important to note that they are still dogs. This multiplication of variations within a kind is the same with the many other kinds of animals.

Paul F. Taylor, Answers in Genesis 42 Comments [7/10/2008 7:22:40 AM]
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Submitted By: Moondog

Quote# 136329

The judge’s theatricals were supported by a weeping, ululating Greek Chorus of women that Nassar had molested. They’d spent four days sobbing their way through victim impact statements in the courtroom.

Once again for emphasis: Larry Nassar is a disgusting pervert, if we’re still allowed to say “pervert,” and I’d have sent him down for five to ten with a clear conscience. I just don’t agree that what he did was as sensationally horrible as the court, and my New York Post, were making it out to be.

I know I’m a geezer and out of touch, but in my generation, unless you were spectacularly ugly, you didn’t make it through childhood and adolescence without an occasional pervert coming on at you. It’s not an uncommon thing in the world, and I’m dubious about the claims of permanent mental distress.

That Greek chorus in the courtroom keening about their victimhood looked pretty healthy, when they removed their hankies from their eyes long enough for you to get a look at them.

But of course we are in a feminist moment, and keening about victimhood is what every red-blooded American girl is encouraged to do nowadays. I note that not only the judge but also the prosecuting attorneys were females; so was the judge in last month’s federal case.

Judge Aquilina of course did not bar males from the courtroom entirely, but you got the impression that she would have done so if she thought she could get away with it.

The judgette wrapped up her gloat-a-thon by jeering at Larry Nassar that, quote, “I’ve just signed your death warrant.” By that point I was mentally composing a petition to repeal the Nineteenth Amendment.

John Derbyshire, VDARE 17 Comments [1/29/2018 2:10:39 AM]
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Quote# 137381

[From "The Deuce and a Half is now our official “Truck of Peace”"]

We have people EVERYWHERE. Take note.

A sergeant in the Tennessee State Guard has been reprimanded after engaging in a conversation on social media alluding to running over anti-fascist activists with a military cargo truck.


YES! YES! YES!

The Tennessee Department of Military confirmed that Casey Gillespie, who apparently took part in the public discussion with another man on Gillespie’s personal Facebook page, remains a sergeant in the volunteer arm of the department.


As he should be. Sgt. Gillespie was obviously just referring to Tennessee’s proposed legislation SB0944:

Tort Liability and Reform – As introduced, provides civil immunity for the driver of an automobile who injures a protester who is blocking traffic in a public right-of-way if the driver was exercising due care. – Amends TCA Title 19; Title 20; Title 29, Chapter 34; Title 54 and Title 55.


Currently, SB 944 is awaiting the approval of the Senate Judiciary Committee. It is the urgent wish of this author that the State Bill pass immediately before the next antifa rally.

[...]

It is the sincere wish of this author that all Tennessee State Guardsmen travel in Deuce and a Half Trucks at all times. You never know when antifa might try to, “block traffic in a public right-of-way.”

Antifa trans-ponies better stick to the sidewalks lol,

JC Hinson

JC Hinson, Occidental Dissent 5 Comments [3/24/2018 2:48:18 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 137420

If you do not believe men are drawn to look at seductive and alluring women, start watching their eyes in the presence of such women. A question that begs to be asked is, “Why would any woman who professes to know Christ as her Saviour dress in such a way as to be seductive and alluring? She may protest her clothing covers her body and the hem is below her knee; but does it highlight or accentuate parts of her body that only ought to be seen by her husband? Slit skirts are specifically designed to tease a man’s eyes and appeal to his lower nature; tight, form-fitting designs shamelessly publicize body parts and contours that ought to be private; clinging or translucent materials also are specifically designed to be provocative and revealing. If a sister is honestly unaware of how her dress is defrauding every man who views her, she ought to listen to a godly, older woman (Titus 2:3) in the flock, or the Pastor’s wife concerning her dress. But from what most women tell me, this type of seductive fashion is usually not accidental or ignorant. How tragic! Many, like Tamar, set out to deliberately catch the carnal eyes of men and tempt them to wrong desires even though they could technically say their bodies are “covered.”

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 28 Comments [3/22/2018 1:47:40 PM]
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Quote# 137201

WELCOME TO WAKANDA: The Mass Initiation Of Black Folk Into Witchcraft

"As it is written: "God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that could not see and ears that could not hear, to this very day." [Romans 8:11]

" For the LORD hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered." [Isaiah 29:10]

So how many of you ran out to get initiated into witchcraft through The Black Panther movie? You do know that was what this was about, right?

It was a mass initiation ceremony to take black Americans in particular away from your own biblical heroes and faith in Jesus Christ, and usher you into the myth-making world of fake-believe and occultism.

I wonder how many demons got accepted into people’s hearts that day?

Never seen anything like it! Black folks playing dress up, buying costumes, spending $20 a ticket (can't afford to donate or buy my ebooks though), and running around talking about Wakanda—some fake country made up out of thin air.

Side note: How you gon' know more about the made-up nation of Wakanda, yet know nothing about the real nations of Africa, like Rwanda??? You know all about Wakanda, yet nothing about Botswana, Burkin Faso, Chad, or Tanzania. If travel agencies start selling vacation packages to Wakanda right now, there'd be so many black folks lining up to go it would be embarrassing. But ask them when's the last time they booked a vacay to somewhere other than South Africa: and you'll hear nothing but crickets.

Black folks are in movie theaters holding invocation ceremonies and prayer circles while watching this mess, literally going all out to indulge in this feel-good fantasy created by the same white folks in Hollywood who've always painted you with the broad brush of racism and inferiority.

And weren't black people just protesting Hollywood a few years ago? Now they're suddenly your friends again because they gave you a fictional hero movie? Black folks sure are easy! I just hope this many black people practice their newfound fondness for supporting movies with majority black casts by supporting the next Spike Lee or Tyler Perry movie when they come out.

To date, Black Panther has made over $500,000,000 at the box office. That's half a BILLION DOLLARS! $200M of that was on opening weekend alone. To my knowledge neither Tyler, Spike nor any other black movie maker has ever gotten a $200 Million opening weekend movie release by black movie goers. As in never. But Marvel comics sure did. And last I checked, none of their board of directors represented the race of the people who just made them a whole lot richer.

Remember that the next time you hear black folks crying about how we need to support black businesses. Imagine what half a BILLION dollars could've done to turn around some of these jacked up under-performing black schools in urban areas.

Imagine how many urban communities could've been revamped and revitalized with that sort of investment! Shoot: we could've paid off all the debts of Morris Brown college and opened up two more HBCU's with that sort of money!

Instead, it went to a Hollywood movie owned by majority white investors. Really let that sink in.

And black folks have been some of the loudest critics of black churches not pouring enough money back into black communities. How is this blatant display of waste over a movie any different?

The problem with us is that we like to be where the crowd of other black people are going. If it's popular we want in. But that's just the problem: a lot of black folks are also going to Hell! And according to scripture it’s a very popular place to be. Will you follow the crowd of black folks there too?

My dear black people—especially my black Christians: your great enemy isn't the white man. It's not some 'ism' or ideology that exists in this world. Your greatest enemy is THE DEVIL—particularly the one you've allowed to exist in your own head. You need to exorcise the devil of ignorance and blind racial identity out of your mind, before it destroys you.

One last thing. Take a look at this thing in the image to this article. The cat-man costume. Looks a lot like a demon, does it not? Yea, I thought so too. Black cats have always been used by witches in conjunction with black magic to cast spells and bring harm onto the unsuspecting.

That alone should give you pause to think why this movie was pushed so hard on the black community by occult Hollywood. You've been placed under a direct spell and don't even know it!

Quit falling for the hype. Repent, and ask Christ to forgive you for being so silly and eager to be led astray that you willingly walked right into a witchcraft induction ceremony and got completely caught up in the moment. Ask the Lord to purge you and to give you more wisdom to see what the enemy is really up to. That way you won't be led away from Christ and so easily led into witchcraft and eternal damnation.

** We are entering a time of mass deception on a level not seen before. Many Christians will be led astray in this hour into eternal damnation and be lost due to identifying more with their flesh and the world than with the nature of Jesus Christ. Don't get caught up in the hype of pop culture. Satan is on a seek and destroy mission: and YOU are in his cross-hairs!

Download a copy of my ebook DEFEATING BLACK ANTICHRIST: Demolishing the Myth That Christianity is the Oppressor's Religion. This ebook will strengthen your faith in Jesus Christ and help you avoid the lies and deceptions that are rampant in the world today. And no, it's not on a discount or on any sale. Just like you purchased those tickets to go see the Black Panther movie at full price, you'll have to pay full price to undo the spell that mess more than likely placed on your mind.

Satan wants to separate you from your faith and confidence in Jesus Christ. DON'T LET HIM WIN. Defeat him in his plans by downloading and reading the ebook NOW. Click the button below.

Mack Major, Mack Major Books 9 Comments [3/19/2018 5:15:15 PM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 137304



Cardi B Wells, Twitter 23 Comments [3/16/2018 3:24:37 PM]
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Quote# 137319

Welcome to Powder Mountain – a utopian club for the millennial elite

When these young entrepreneurs bought a remote ski resort in Utah, they dreamed of an exclusive, socially conscious community. Is this the future, or Mt Olympus for Generation Me?

by Paul Lewis

Jeff Rosenthal is standing near the top of his snow-covered mountain wearing a fluffy jacket, fingerless gloves and ripped jeans. “It’s surreal, man!” he says, shivering as he surveys the landscape of newly laid roads and half-built homes. “That’s Ken Howery’s house, the co-founder of PayPal. Awesome house!”

He lists the other investors who are turning this remote Utah community into a crucible of “generational ideology, innovation and entrepreneurship”. Richard Branson will have a house here, and so will the world’s most powerful marketing executive, Martin Sorrell. The Hollywood producer Stacey Sher and the actor Sophia Bush will be their neighbours, as will Miguel McKelvey, a co-founder of WeWork, and the renowned technology investor and author of The 4-Hour Work Week, Tim Ferriss.

The audacious real estate project – branded Powder Mountain – is becoming a mecca for altruistically minded members of the global elite. “The goal will always remain the same,” says Elliott Bisnow, Rosenthal’s business partner: “To be a beacon of inspiration and a light in the world.”

Bisnow, Rosenthal and three friends, all entrepreneurs in their 30s, dreamed up the scheme after spending years running Summit, an exclusive gathering described by insiders as a “Davos for millennials”.

Applicants to Summit are screened and interviewed to ensure they display the correct “psychographic” (or mindset) for the events. It is pitched as an entertaining ideas festival, comparable to TED and Burning Man, featuring speakers such as Quentin Tarantino, Jane Fonda, Peter Thiel and Jeff Bezos. Guests pay $3,000-$8,000 (£2,200-£5,800) for access to three-day flagship events, hosted everywhere from beaches in Tulum, Mexico, to cruise ships in the Caribbean.

Having finessed the art of persuading rich people to pay to join these getaways, the founders convinced their friends to help them buy an entire mountain in Utah, complete with 10,000 acres of some of the best ski terrain in the US.

They bristle at the idea that they’re trying to build a high-altitude utopia for plutocrats, but then casually refer to a segment of their clientele as “the billionaire set” – and don’t hesitate to mention that their mountain happens to be located between towns named Eden and Paradise.

The beautiful surroundings and unique blend of people, Rosenthal believes, will create the “exponential opportunities of the future”. “I have this whole rap with Gertrude Stein, Katharine Graham, De’ Medici, Bauhaus. There’s this rich history of groups coming together, where the whole is more than the sum of the parts, right?” he says. “I think that’s what’s happening here.”

Such hype might seem detached from reality, but it is much in vogue among the technology sector’s new generation of millionaires and billionaires, who seem keen to distance themselves from the selfish excess of their predecessors from 1980s Wall Street. They show less interest in super-yachts or sports cars; instead they speak about spiritual enrichment, connections to nature and purpose. It is against this backdrop that countless Summit-like festivals, retreats and communities have emerged in and around California, promising to help wealthy clients find a better version of themselves.

Further Future, a gathering in the Nevada desert attended by the ex-Google CEO Eric Schmidt, which has been described as “Burning Man for the 1%”, promises a culture of “mindful optimism, wonder and exploration”. Scott Kriens, the chairman of the technology multinational Juniper Networks, recently opened a retreat for self-improvement and introspection in a redwood forest near Santa Cruz, California, recognising that, despite its great advances, the internet “did not help people connect to themselves”. And Esalen, an institute perched on a cliff in Big Sur that has been a magnet for a bohemian set searching for spiritual enlightenment for half a century, is now directly courting guilt-laden tech executives. “The CEOs, inside they’re hurting,” the director, Ben Tauber (a former Google product manager), recently said of his clients. “They wonder if they’re doing the right thing for humanity. These are questions we can only answer behind closed doors.”

Summit prides itself on its progressive “content”, with talks about global warming, inequality, racial divisions and the war in Syria, but there is a celebrity draw, with talks such as “Jessica Alba on defying expectations” and “Andre Agassi on scaling change”.

During the February weekend I attend (a smaller retreat on the mountain, which costs around $2,000), there are only three talks, each lasting an hour; the remaining three days are spent skiing, snowshoeing, eating and drinking, relaxing in yoga or spa sessions, or partying in crowded hot tubs.

For all its intellectual bravado, a big appeal of Summit has always been recreational. Food is provided by Michelin-starred chefs, and top musicians are flown in for dance parties; the Summit crowd contains a dedicated contingent of Burning Man aficionados, known as “Burners”, who are adept at adding fuel to the festivities. (Rick Glassman, a comedian flown from LA for a 10-minute set, prompts howls of laughter when he says Summit had taught him that “everyone does mushrooms”.)

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The story of how Bisnow and his friends – Rosenthal, Ryan Begelman, Jeremy Schwartz and Brett Leve – came to occupy their bubble on a mountaintop in Utah has become something of a legend. It began in 2008, when Bisnow, with the boundless confidence of a 23-year-old businessman, cold-called entrepreneurs he admired and invited them on an all-expenses-paid trip to Utah. Bisnow shouldered the cost of the 19-strong gathering on his credit card, then repeated the trick with another get-together in Mexico, racking up $75,000 in debt. Bisnow and the others quickly coalesced a sort of “mutual aid society” for young, well-connected businessmen, which in the early days included the co-founders of Twitter and Facebook and the real-estate heiress Ivanka Trump.

Soon, Bisnow and his friends were running dozens of closed-door events dedicated to creating “positive impact” – and hosting their flagship conferences on cruise voyages that sailed from Miami to the Bahamas. Those events acquired a reputation as booze cruises for white, male tech bros, so a few years ago Summit decided it was time for a rebrand. They introduced cheaper tickets for women to improve the gender ratio, and abandoned the Caribbean for a more down-to-earth location: Los Angeles. “Not Santa Barbara. Not Beverly Hills,” Rosenthal says. “But downtown LA – where you’re literally in the throes of gentrification and homelessness.”

For years the team worked remotely in Amsterdam, Tel Aviv, New York, Miami and Barcelona. They would combine work with snowboarding in Montana and surfing in Nicaragua. But by late 2011, the friends were approaching 30 and starting to travel less. They were living and working out of a mansion in Malibu and, Rosenthal recalls, hosting “amazing dinners that became pretty culturally significant in LA at that time”.

t was around this time they heard from a Utah-based venture capitalist that Powder Mountain was for sale and hatched a plan to transform their considerable social capital into real estate.

The plan was enacted months later, after a gathering they hosted in Lake Tahoe. They chartered a Boeing 737 and flew about 75 of their wealthier patrons from northern California to a tiny airport in Utah’s Ogden Valley. From there, it was just a short drive to the top of Powder Mountain. They arrived in time for sunset, lit a bonfire in the snow and laid out their vision.

Each investor who helped them buy the mountain would receive a plot of land – and, assuming the plan worked, their money back at a future date. They bought the mountain for $40m in 2013, but it is only in recent months that the wooden shells of the first 26 properties have mushroomed out of the mountainside, along with roads, bridges and ski lifts.

Much to the frustration of some locals, machines have been drilling wells deep into the mountain in search of water. One day there will be 500 homes on the mountain, and a village with coffee shops, juice bars, restaurants, a sound studio and a five-star hotel.

Rosenthal takes me on a driving tour of the mountain, to explain how they plan to create a community that is different from exclusive resorts such as Aspen, Colorado. Restrictions prevent anyone from building a home larger than 4,500 sq ft, and residents must use vetted architects to ensure that their home is “subservient to the land” and in a style that has been called “heritage modernism”.

“None of the architecture should express taste or wealth,” Rosenthal says, nodding to the spot that will become a central promenade. “That is a very walkable main street – we will have soft Italian kerbs.”

I steer the conversation to the subject of how utterly detached from the real world elites seem to have become. “Elitism, the way I would define it, is obtainable,” he replies. “All that stands between you and being elite is your own investment in yourself.”

I tell Rosenthal that I’ve met many people in America who work as hard as him and his friends – harder, in fact – but struggle to make ends meet. He acknowledges that he’s benefited from considerable advantage, but insists we now live in an era in which “the internet is the great equaliser”.

“What are you doing to create the utility for yourself? Are you introducing people so they can collaborate?” he says. Struggling Americans, he adds, might want to “host a dinner. Invite 10 strangers. See what happens.”



Jeff Rosenthal , The Guardian 9 Comments [3/20/2018 9:15:16 AM]
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Quote# 137382

The “Read this” school of revolutionary thought

Is so far removed from what we actually need today that I sometimes wish rightists had been successful in suppressing all previous Leftist thought.

We should really burn every Leftist book, erase the pdfs, and purge the quotes. Every single idea we have taken from the past is an impediment to creating a better future.

If you want a revolution, speak to people in terms of their lives and conditions today and their plans for tomorrow.

All publications are banned until further notice.

terminalpolitics, Tumblr 10 Comments [3/24/2018 3:09:00 AM]
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Submitted By: The Reptilian Jew

Quote# 137437

i’m a Youth Worker, I’m a Paedophile
The idea of a paedophile working with children is, perhaps understandably, pretty controversial. This is the story of how I realised my attraction, learnt to live with it and why I’m going to keep working with kids.
I grew up in a coastal town in the UK with two very loving parents and my two younger siblings. I never had many friends and I was bullied a lot, but every week I went to a youth group. I always felt welcomed there. It gave me a safe environment in which to learn, grow and develop as a person, especially in my self confidence. My time there influenced me as a person more than anything else.

I’d already decided by age 10 that I wanted to give back and volunteer there as an adult. I took up a volunteer role when I turned 14 and it’s the best decision I ever made. Sure it’s a lot of work, sometimes it’s like a full time job and it’s only voluntary, but now I get to help children to grow and develop. I couldn’t ask for more than that.

Shortly after starting in my volunteer position I realised I was a paedophile.

Realisation
My sexuality developed pretty normally at first. I started to notice other boys my age when I was 8. Around 11 years old I figured I was gay. Fortunately at the time public attitudes toward homosexuality were changing pretty quickly and my close family was pretty openly accepting of gay people, so I was able to accept myself relatively easily.

But a year later I started to notice something was up. I was still attracted to boys six?—?or sometimes more?—?years younger than me. Why? It didn’t make any sense to me. Fortunately I was still attracted to enough of my peers that I could ignore it. So that’s what I did for two more years.

It wasn’t until I was 14 that I really started to realise the nature of my sexuality. I’d been getting older, but the boys I was attracted to hadn’t got older with me. In fact by this point all the boys I was attracted to were younger than me. I couldn’t ignore it anymore, I had to start accepting that this was the way I am.

To this day my attractions haven’t changed, I’m still attracted to boys from 4–13. I had no choice in the matter, I was born this way, but I did choose never to act on it and never to harm a child.

Acceptance
I was always a pretty scientifically minded kid. When I realised I was gay I asked myself why I was that way, what it was that made me different. Asking those questions it was pretty obvious to me that my sexuality was an unchosen and unchangeable part of myself. If it can’t be changed and it isn’t hurting anyone then I should just accept it and make the best of my situation.

I went through a very similar thought process when I realised I was a paedophile, so accepting it was pretty easy for me once I stopped trying to deny it. As long as I never hurt anyone what was the problem?

But there was a problem. My only knowledge of paedophilia was based on what society had always told me. Society was constantly telling me that I was doomed to be a monster. I knew I wasn’t a monster; I didn’t want to hurt a child and I knew I never would.

I went online to see if I could talk to others like me. Unfortunately the only other paedophiles I could find were pro-contacts, people that believe children can consent. I knew they were wrong, I’d heard about the damage CSA caused, I didn’t want to be like them and I didn’t want to associate with them, but I was bullied, depressed, suicidal, had no friends and desperately wanted someone to talk to about my attraction. So I talked to them. For many years they tried to push their beliefs onto me, but fortunately I never believed it.

I’d be lying if I said I was never tempted by them though. The idea that it’s okay to act on your attractions and that it’s society that causes the harm can be quite appealing. Especially to a young, depressed, suicidal teenager. Fortunately I always knew that what they were saying was wrong; I couldn’t ignore what I knew to be true: CSA causes devastating lifelong harm.

There was always the fear that someone would find out. What if someone did? I’d be hated by everyone, not even my family would accept me. I’d seen plenty of news stories about what people do to paedophiles. Harass them, beat them, even burn them alive just on suspicion of being a paedophile. If someone found out my life could be in danger. I had to keep this hidden from everyone in my real life. I couldn’t risk losing everything if someone found out. Even now, no one in my real life knows.

One day, early this year, I came across an article about people who called themselves “virtuous paedophiles”. This was a group of people like me that were paedophiles but were against all sexual contact with children. I started doing some reading and after a couple of weeks decided to join VirPed. I’d finally found a community that understood my attractions and shared my views. It was quite a relief; if only I had found them when I was 14.

Turning this into something positive
I’ve accepted my attractions and I know I will never harm a child, but now I’m in a position to help others. I’ve now joined a number of online communities for non-offending and anti-contact Minor Attracted People (MAPs), to help people trying to come to terms with their attractions, to show them that they aren’t monsters.

The hate, death threats and suicide bait non-offending MAPs see every day is staggering and sickening. Young teenagers are seeing those messages, internalising the belief that they are monsters; sometimes the hate pushes them over the edge. They often either kill themselves or get indoctrinated by pro-contacts which can lead to them being abused themselves, abusing kids or viewing child pornography. I want to show them that there is another way, before they get indoctrinated by pro-contacts, or give in to the hate.

Hopefully I can educate a few people along the way too and help to reduce the stigma surrounding paedophilia. When you are constantly told that you are destined to hurt a child it can become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Contrary to popular belief, helping paedophiles accept themselves is helping keep children safe from abuse. The current stigma just forces paedophiles to hide and prevents them from seeking help if they need it, just increasing the risk they might offend. Demonizing paedophiles might make you feel good, but it’s not helping anyone.

Should I still work with kids?
Most people would say that a paedophile should never be around kids because we are just looking for opportunities to abuse them. That’s completely false. I’ve been working with kids since before I even realised I was a paedophile. I do it because I enjoy it.
I have no ulterior motives. I know that my main job is to protect the children in my care and keep them safe; that is what I do. The absolute last thing I want is for a child to be harmed.

Being a paedophile doesn’t mean I lack the normal, protective instincts people have towards children. This is a very common misconception, but if anything, my protective instincts towards children are stronger than most people’s. I find I care more about them and I’m more interested in their well-being.

I love kids, I love working with kids, I’m very good at what I do, I do it because I want what is best for them and I want them to become the best people they can be.

Dean, Medium 14 Comments [3/23/2018 8:02:25 AM]
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Quote# 137424

The left is a cult that can only survive by cutting off information.

I was reading an askreddit thread about people who have left a cult "What was your oh**** moment?" If you go read that thread over there you will see one thing in common in all the cults. You are not allowed to think differently and to stop you from thinking differently they shut off all information from the outside. The left does exactly this. They are trying to silence conservatives to keep information away from their followers in the cult. If you think any unapproved thoughts you will be shunned from the group.

The left is a cult.

Edit: I went to sleep and came back. This post blew up. I am glad people see what the left really is. Also I saw a comment about how it is ironic to post this in a sub that censors leftists. What a ridiculous contradiction. We are on a completely leftist platform that censors right leaning subs, has special rules for our sub only, and removes gun subreddits. We are literally in the belly of the beast and you cult members want to come in to every single thread and try to brainwash us with your cult crap. Sorry but we are turning away the door knockers. We are here to try and save the people you are brainwashing. We are trying to pull people out of your cult. No we don't need to hear your 5000th anti-Trump post for the day here. You have a thousands subs to discuss that on. We have one. You have even taken over conservative subs in the past. If you want to argue your point of view go to askthe_donald. We have a dedicated sub for discussion.

Fun fact: Democrats also are far more likely to have mental health issues.

Fun fact: People in cults also are far more likely to have mental health issues.

http://archive.is/8SYYC

Thus, cults can be seen as an organized group or a solitary person whose purpose is to dominate cult members by using psychological manipulation and pressure strategies.


CuckedByTRUMP, r/The_Donald 22 Comments [3/22/2018 1:48:24 PM]
Fundie Index: 5
Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 137433

[Note: This is from May 2017]

The chief rabbi of Israel on Saturday night appeared to suggest during his weekly sermon that secular woman behave like animals due to their immodest dress.

Sephardi Chief Rabbi of Israel Itzhak Yosef also lamented that the non-religious community is unaware of how much respect religious Jews supposedly have for women.

In other comments, he advised religious IDF soldiers who find themselves at army events where women are singing to remove their eyeglasses and conspicuously read from a book to demonstrate that they are not participating.

“If the secular knew how much we respect the woman; everything we do is for a woman’s dignity,” Yosef said according to a Sunday report by the Hebrew-language Kikar Hashabat website that serves the religious community. “A woman is not an animal, she has to keep her dignity. To be modest [in her dress] is her dignity.”

Religious demands for modest dress and behavior by women is a cause of friction in the religious-secular divide in Israel with the latter seeing such requirements as sexual discrimination.

In advice to soldiers, Yosef noted that due to his position he is sometimes required to attended official ceremonies that include singing performances by women. Recalling an event he was at that was also attended by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and President Reuven Rivlin, Yosef said that when the women started singing he made an obvious display reading from a book that he held up in front of his face to show that he wasn’t listening.

“That way they could all see that I am not listening, my head is in the book, close to what matters,” he explained and instructed religious soldiers to do the same under similar circumstances.

According to religious tradition, if is forbidden for men to hear a woman sing solo, or at all if it is outside of a religious service.

The exclusion of women from musical performances to satisfy religious sensibilities is a controversial subject in Israel, with religious groups often pushing to have women barred from performing in public.

Yosef’s father, Ovadia Yosef, also a chief rabbi, was also known for making controversial statements at his Saturday night sermons, including derogatory comments about Arabs, Muslims and Holocaust victims.

Rabbi Yitzhak Yosef , The Times of Israel 11 Comments [3/23/2018 8:01:43 AM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 137423

Tim Matter:
You don't deserve more rights than everybody else. Either keep your evangelists out of school, or allow everybody elses in too.

Guest Verified:
Who is talking about more rights? You are. You want all rights taken away from Christians and all rights given to haters and persecutors. You want it wiped out. Christians can't bake cakes, can't work as florists, can't serve in government, can't live their faith in the work place or classroom. That's persecution. Why don't you ask Muslims to take off their burkas or hijabs, or to stop praying three times a day?

Guest Verified, Christian News Network 15 Comments [3/22/2018 1:48:17 PM]
Fundie Index: 5
Submitted By: Jocasta