Quote# 141402

John Guandolo, the disgraced former FBI agent and right-wing conspiracy theorist who now trains law enforcement agencies around the country to identify seemingly anyone with dark skin and a beard as an Islamic terrorist, appeared on “The Glazov Gang” program last week, where he declared that two Muslim women who were elected to Congress should be banned from serving because, he absurdly claimed, only Christians can serve in Congress.

In the recent midterm elections, Democrats Rashida Tlaib of Michigan and Ilhan Omar of Minnesota became the first Muslim women elected to Congress, but Guandolo is declaring that as “sharia-adherent women,” they are unable to uphold the U.S. Constitution and therefore must not be allowed to take office.

“These are people who are now, I would argue, legally they cannot serve in these positions,” Guandolo said. “You cannot have somebody who is adherent to sharia serving in public office. The founders, by the way, were very clear that only Christians should hold public office, so let’s just put that out there.”

John Guandolo, Right Wing Watch 16 Comments [12/1/2018 3:50:50 PM]
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Submitted By: kuyohashi

Quote# 141432

(=Disclaimer: Yes. Martin Yirrell and Martin from Premier are the same person=)

Martin Yirrell: Homosexuality goes against God's decree that sex is restricted to a married man and woman, incest doesn't.

Alexander V Carsonjr: Martin, I doubt Gods exists that little rule was likely made by sick men whose God reflects them.

Martin Yirrell: On what basis is incest harmful, apart from the dangers of genetic load ?

Alexander V Carsonjr: you mean besides the fact it's fucking sick ? Also you proved my point that 2 people can't populate the earth.


Martin Yirrell: You know God exists you just pretend you don't.

Alexander V Carsonjr: Why do you assume that ? Is it that foreign to you that there are those who just don't share your beliefs ?

Martin Yirrell: No assumptions, just plain unadorned facts.

Martin Yirrell, Youtube 10 Comments [12/2/2018 9:36:35 AM]
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Quote# 90615

Feeling ill. And angry. People are celebrating and they don't know what they're in for. Already, stock prices in other markets around the world are going down. Small businesses that have been barely hanging on are going to go out of business. Energy costs will skyrocket as O enacts more of his anti-coal agenda. Israel is in greater danger. And on and on.

I wish that only the people who voted for this arrogant, American-hating man would suffer, but unfortunately we will all suffer (except for the solar energy execs who get money from the govt, etc.).

Most angry at the lying media.

People keep saying "God is in control" as if that makes everything okay. God was in control when Israel went into Babylonian captivity. God was in control when Stalin killed upwards of 60 million people.

Reason&Hope, Rapture Ready 35 Comments [11/11/2012 2:29:53 PM]
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Quote# 141400

Today's Laugh 11-21-18

Reporter: Mr. President! Explain Ivanka's email scandal!
Trump: Simple inexperience - unlike Hillary, who deleted 33,000 subpoenaed emails and put classified data on an unsecure server.
(member of the press shown falling asleep)
Reporter: Cut, cut!
Reporter: Mr. President! Why are families being cruelly torn apart in Tijuana?

Mick Williams:
Episode: Minions of the MSM (Militant Satanic Media).

Mick Williams, Disqus - Faith & Religion 11 Comments [12/1/2018 3:49:28 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 15399

Can somebody please explain why ANYBODY not associated with al-Qaeda would have issues with the "wire-tapping" telephone surveilance by the Dept. of Homeland Security? Unless you're building a bomb, planning to bring down an airplane, or reporting back to Osama, WHAT THE FUCK are you worried about???????

Telephone surveilance is one of the best defense weapons we have in the war against terror. Somehow I suspect if anybody OTHER than George W. Bush was in the White House, this wouldn't even be an issue. If you're not in cahoots with al-Qaeda, or trying to smuggle illegal aliens or drugs into this nation, then you have NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT. Ordinary law-abiding citizens needn't be concerned about telephone taps, only the CRIMINALS and TERRORISTS should be sweating on this one.

mmmmjournal, Livejournal 68 Comments [9/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 141403

End Times broadcaster Rick Wiles is convinced that the earth is about to experience a new ice age that will last for hundreds of years and wipe out a large percentage of humanity … but, on the upside, it will also destroy Planned Parenthood.

“You can laugh, mock, ridicule all you want, but you’re going to end up freezing to death,” Wiles said on his “TruNews” program last night. “This thing is here, it’s arriving and it’s arriving quickly and it’s arriving this year. We’re going to see the onset of this ice age in the winter of 2018.”

After co-host Doc Burkhart explained that this coming ice age is “the result of man’s sin,” Wiles took solace in the idea that it will at least also “freeze out a lot of sin.”

“It will freeze out Planned Parenthood,” he said. “There won’t be very many abortions in America 15 or 20 years from now. There is not going to be a lot of pornography consumption. There is not going to be a lot of drug use. It’s going to freeze out a lot of sin, that’s for sure because a lot of people are going to be dead. That is just a fact. An ice age wipes out a substantial portion of the population.”

Rick Wiles, Right Wing Watch 12 Comments [12/1/2018 3:51:51 PM]
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Submitted By: kuyohashi

Quote# 141410

My "childish misunderstanding"? Uh, Mr. Nelson, I think I understand very well that frogs produce frogs and cows produce cows, and there are no exceptions. And I understand and make real clear to people, no fossil counts. No fossil counts for anything in a court of law, in an honest court of law. When you find a fossil in the ground, all you can prove is it died. None of the fossils I have seen (and we've got a huge collection of them here), none of them have a date stamped on them, none of them talk. You put interpretation on them, but your interpretation is not part of the fact. The fact is, this comes from a critter that died. That's the fact. Now if you want to add more to that, you're welcome to of course, but that's no longer science. So there are no fossils that would count in an honest court of law; every fossil would be thrown out. You can't say, "this is intermediate between these two"; you don't know that! You don't know if that fossil had any children at all. How could you possibly prove that? This is where you guys run off on imagination like Spongebob.

Kent Hovind, Youtube 10 Comments [12/1/2018 3:59:40 PM]
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Quote# 57255

(In response to "Evolution is a fact. Natural selection and random mutation are theories to explain the fact of evolution.")

Wrong. Natural selection and mutations are the observable facts. Evolution is as far as we know science fiction.

cptdon, Fark 52 Comments [1/27/2009 5:48:47 PM]
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Submitted By: LordJiro

Quote# 54151

[in response to the question "why do atheists always have to follow the rules?"]

We (christians) never claim "persecution" name one time in history that we have.
we put laws in place that dictate peoples values?? buddy, idk what lies the public school system, but this nation was meant to be a christian one, if you don't like it LEAVE.
We DO provide evidence for our claims, AND say that God did it because, he does do everything.
we say things are evil because we believe it, that doesn't mean you have to.
i refuse to even take the last thing seriously.
when do you get the advantage? you have the advantage, you already stole our country, and destroyed everything this nation once stood for, what else do you want?

metalxcore, yahoo 58 Comments [12/12/2008 3:14:03 PM]
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Submitted By: adam

Quote# 141384

Global Warming is a trillion dollar lie. Climate Change however is natural and completely different. Don’t fall for the Elite’s lies!! Challenge them!!

Jamie Gorman, Youtube 7 Comments [11/30/2018 12:09:22 PM]
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Submitted By: FSM

Quote# 56966

how can you people have read the information provided on the answers in genesis website and still proceed in complete darkness? and you dont even know it. i'm shocked that you can continue on in such biased opinion. not only am i upset about this...but at your disrespect tword creationists. its hard for Christians to reach and have influence on anyone in the scientific community because of such biased opinions many others, and you all posses. I'm disgusted with all evolutionist, because they refuse to see the truth, or even look into with an open eye (though i'm sure everyone of you will claim you have) but if you did, you would see the truth. but honest people are slowly departing from the old and limited theory of evolution ( by the way...where are all these links between species? its almost funny at your lack of evidence!) People ARE realizing the truth! i'm 15. but trust me, when i'm older you'll hear of me againfor your sake i hope you convert, because all you "scientists" will be left behind to the revolutionary truth of creationism

Heather, No Answers in Genesis 49 Comments [1/26/2009 7:34:12 PM]
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Submitted By: Orlor

Quote# 56188

A couple of years ago, after I had been following the controversy for several years, I found myself listening to a long lecture by a Darwinist, replete with bafflegab and pretty lame examples. Finally, sensing (correctly) that I was unconvinced, he proclaimed to me, "You just don't understand how natural selection works, do you?"

And suddenly, the penny dropped. What he meant was that I just don't believe in magic. I can't make myself believe in magic; I haven't been able to since I was a child. And I was no longer going to give the matter any attention. What I really wanted to know then and now is - how magic became so important a principle in science? And I think I know of at least one reason.

Denyse O'Leary, Post-Darwinist 68 Comments [1/11/2009 12:31:32 PM]
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Submitted By: TheOutsider

Quote# 141389

We have become so apostate and hardened nowadays that we refer to good things as being "wicked." For example: Here's a Google search for the phrase, "wicked dude!" Satan is effectively confusing young people today by redefining Biblical terms; thus removing the only words in society that demonize sin.

I recently went through a MacDonald's drive-thru and was offended by their advertisement for "wicked" Happy Meal toys. It is a sin to misuse Biblical words. People often call their food "sinfully delicious," but this is wrong. Sin is a serious matter with God, and we shouldn't make light of it. TV's late night shows continually sport and joke about homosexuality, adultery, and every sexual sin imaginable; but God says... fools make a mock at sin (Proverb 14:9). We are living in a nation of fools. Sin sends people to Hell and is a serious matter.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 14 Comments [11/30/2018 12:15:05 PM]
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Quote# 141390

[Sorry for a WTF source, but the only non-wingnut sites covering this were Liveleak and Portland PD homesite itself.]

On Saturday, a 19-year-old so-called "anti-fascist" protester was arrested after she punched and spat on demonstrators at a #HimToo rally in Portland.

The #HimToo rally was organized by conservative activist Haley Adams to draw awareness to the sexual victimization of men and the falsely accused. Left-wing counter-protesters showed up to disrupt the event. Demonstrators and at least one reporter on site were harassed and assaulted by the agitators. The rally ended with a total of six arrests.

In footage captured by independent journalist and Quillette Magazine editor Andy C. Ngo, a young Antifa counter-protester later identified as Hannah R. McClintock by the Portland Police Bureau confronts male demonstrators at the rally. Backed by a chant of "We believe survivors" by her fellow Antifa activists, McClintock gets herself into a fighting stance and waves on the demonstrators to apparently engage in a physical altercation with her. She also spits on them as she repeatedly yells the word "b****."

Later in the video, McClintock physically assaults the male demonstrators.

Two #HimToo activists are heard in the video directing their fellow protesters not to fight back against the female and to "calm down."

"Let it happen, let it happen," says one of the protesters. "Don't touch her. Let her attack us, let her attack us."

Apparently failing to elicit the reaction she wants, the aggressive Antifa female continues with her antics. McClintock repeatedly gets in the men's faces and spits on them yet again.

"It's all good, it's all good," a #HimToo protester says calmly in response. "Let her spit. It's all good."

McClintock assaults a #HimToo protester once again before a swarm of Portland officers take her away.

"McClintock was arrested near Southwest 3rd Avenue and Southwest Taylor Street. McClintock was lodged at the Multnomah County Jail on a charge of Harassment," says a press release from the Portland Police Bureau.

Hannah R. McClintock, Daily Wire 9 Comments [11/30/2018 12:16:43 PM]
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Quote# 141365

I have endured the Devil afflicting me ever since my ministry began to grow in 2004. I started the work in 2002. Only the Lord knows the depth of suffering that I've endured. Job didn't have it so bad. The book of Job reads like a biography of my life.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 26 Comments [11/27/2018 11:54:58 AM]
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Quote# 141322

If going to church is a mere religious activity, where people can sing, fellowship and feel good about themselves, then you are much better off just staying home!!!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 12 Comments [11/24/2018 1:45:44 PM]
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Quote# 141321

Hillary I'd classify as a Leninist. Technically speaking, there really is even a subdivision between Leninist and Marxist-Leninist. Hillary appears to have studied closely Lenin's, Leftwing Communism: An Infantile Disease.

Counterpunch magazine documented how Hillary built a vanguard party of a chosen few which is 100% Leninism. Marx made no such reference to vanguardism or the idea of a "permanent revolution."

I wonder where Trump falls in this scheme. What sort of commie is an isolationist-militarist-federalist with ambitions of outerspace-expansionism who ostensibly supports the previously discarded proletariat?

Good question. I had to point out today to the anti-neocon anti-globalists that Trump's Iranian policy is the same as the neocons. But it's how you phrase it. Instead of saying Trump's bowed to the neocons, you have to say the entire neocon movement suddenly woke up and saw the wisdom of Donald Trump.

[Note: Rob Smith is also a Conservapedia editor.]

Rob Smith, RationalWiki 10 Comments [11/24/2018 1:45:26 PM]
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Quote# 57070

Why do evolutionists trust their own minds?

When creationists point out the glory of God's design haven't you heard them pick and choose examples of what they consider "bad design". But as they believe no God and believe in evolution this would show that evolution produces bad design. That could include their own brain which could be very flawed and require mutations to improve until it is adequate to comment on how it got there.

So, I don't see how evolutionists can trust their own minds or seriously convince anybody else that anyone else can trust their own minds or indeed if they themselves have adequate minds to make such a decision.

Scarlets79, CARM 45 Comments [1/26/2009 6:00:48 AM]
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Quote# 57058

God mathematically proven! A recorded vision delivers the scientific proof for the existence of God

According to a Greek magazine ( Mystery - Nr.39/2008), a Greek painter had in the spring of 2001 in Athens a vision and recorded it. The vision contained 132 capital letters of the Greek alphabet that created a quandrangular shape 11 to 12. A study revealed that the text is readable in 115 different ways in the ancient Greek language and parallel it encloses depictions and symbols. Besides, it can be simoultaneously deciphered mathematically with main keystone of the deciphering the number 666, which is known from the New Testament as the number mentioned in the end of the thirteenth chapter of the Revelation of St.John. The whole process of the deciphering shows off an unbreakable mathematical, geometrical and theological coherence which in the end presents 10 big revealing texts.

A famous (BBC,REUTERS,Guardian etc.) Greek artist ( the person who saw the vision ?) named Athanasio Celia, wrote a book which deciphered the text of the vision and announced that the vision, which has as its principal symbol the crucifix of Jesus Christ, is the Contemporary Revelation. The Greek book is listed by the biggest bookseller in Athens next to the books of Einstein and Hawking ( for free audio-visual evidence go to www.666DNA.com ).

Finally, one of the most prominent German publishing companies ( C.H.Beck Verlag, since 1763 ) examined the book and through its lectorate decided that '' the deciphering of the vision with the 132 Greek letters and from this following scientific proof for the existence of God is for sure a great event''.

kyriaki, ireport 33 Comments [1/26/2009 5:50:45 AM]
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Quote# 141395

shalini: its the same principle raptor.
The trouble with yyour fully qualified creation scientists is that most scientists and scientific institutions wont touch them with a barge pole because they are lousy scientists.
If what they said was true some of it would be supported by science. Plus many of them are supported by very dubious american right wing organisations.

Raptor: So what else is "like evolution"? Why would an all-powerful God need anything like evolution? He has told us very clearly but you don't believe Him and would obviously prefer almost any other speculative explanation except the biblical one.

shalini: Why would an all powerful God need to create us at all? Mystery, mystery.
You seem to want to box God in. Label him. Do not touch.

Chellebaby: You actually just asked why would an all powerful God need to create us all?! Have you ever read your Bible? Why would God leave things to chance? I do believe the Bible the Bible says we are all fearfully wonderfully made.

shalini: Don't worry your head about it.

Chellebaby: I don't as I know the truth and know I have a place in Heaven. I do however fear for you and where you will end up. Have you shown enough love lately to earn your place?!
Can I ask is there a measuring stick so you can see if you have shown enough love to get into Heaven? What happens when you show hate ? Do you have to reset your counter?
Romans 3:23
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Romans 3:10
As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Titus 3:4-6 King James Version (KJV)
4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,
5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
Ephesians 2:8-10 King James Version (KJV)
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Chellebaby & Raptor, Premier 4 Comments [11/30/2018 12:22:43 PM]
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Quote# 141385

If there were no concept of God, would evolution would be so "obvious"?
Or is evolution more a push against the concept of God than actual science??

[Submitter's note: this comment received 66 thumbs up]

AffordBindEquipment, YouTube 9 Comments [11/30/2018 12:10:42 PM]
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Quote# 141377

funny that there are always some nutters that think that one must have a phobia or hate homosexuals. Sure all judges are suffering from crimephobia and hate the delinquents they judge as well. But then they must also believe that atheists suffer from religiophobia and hate the religious.

That is not to say that there are not pathological cases who do amongst those who are "brights", e.g. suffering from excess self-perceived intelligence.

https://www.virtueonline.or... gives a compilation of failed tactics to justify homosexuality in case you haven't got enough. Peace be upon those who deny their free will in order to attempt to blame God for their unwillingness to control their sinful desires like perfect love below. Surely she fully agrees with Adam to blame God for giving him Eve, still clueless about the teachings of Genesis and the concept of sin, but then logical thinking is a scarce commodity. :-)

Gerhard, Premier 12 Comments [11/28/2018 11:35:03 PM]
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Submitted By: CC

Quote# 141378


Dr Lisa Nolland spells out why the idea is wrong and must now be consigned to the cemetery of thought

Both the church and society have long struggled with the issue of homosexuality.

Is it a crime? Is it an illness? Is it a sin? Is it simply a normal variant of human sexuality? And what difference do the answers to these questions make in the 'real world'?

A brief recent history

In the 1960s, American singer Anita Bryant campaigned against homosexuality, saying that gay people are made, not born, and that they had to recruit youngsters in order to maintain their numbers. This frightened the heterosexual community, and gay people in turn felt under threat.

Then, in 1973, the American Psychiatric Association was pressurised by gay activists into pronouncing that homosexuality was not an illness, but a normal variant of sexuality. This decision is widely recognised as having been political rather than scientific, but it laid the foundation for the decisive game-changer that was to come.

A game-changer

In 1989 two brilliant Harvard graduates, Kirk and Madsen, wrote the seminal After the Ball, which argued that 'for all practical purposes, gays should be considered to have been "born gay"-- even though sexual orientation, for most humans, seems to be the product of a complex interaction between innate predispositions and environmental factors during childhood...'

The brilliance of this strategy was twofold: by arguing for 'born gay', gays were able to qualify for special treatment as a vulnerable 'minority group'. Also this strategy elicited much more sympathy for them in the public domain because 'it's not their fault'. That public sympathy remains to this day, and 'orientation' is considered to be immutable.

Ignoring inconvenient truth

In 2007, Professor Michael King made a submission to the Church of England on behalf of the Royal College of Psychiatrists. Embarrassingly for the College, the document was criticised by CORE Issues Trust as having made no reference to twin studies, which had been central to the scientific discussion for several years.

These studies showed that if one identical twin grew up to be gay, the other usually did not. The inescapable conclusion was that, since both had the same genes and hormonal experiences in the womb, the difference in sexuality must be accounted for mainly by their different experiences and perceptions during early childhood. Gay people were not born that way.

All of this was absent from the College's submission. Missing too was any reference to a major Danish study, published just the previous year, which found 'evidence that childhood family experiences are important determinants of heterosexual and homosexual marriage decisions in adulthood.'

The Royal College's submission claimed that:
• Causation was 'biological', so a person is born gay
• One's sexual orientation is 'fundamental' and thus immutable
• If one tries to change one's sexuality (by therapy) one is liable to be harmed and cited several scientific studies to support these claims.

Importance of postnatal

Unfortunately, the studies didn't support their arguments and, when challenged, the College quietly issued a new position statement in 2014 which says: 'Sexual orientation is determined by a combination of biological and postnatal environmental factors' -- exactly what Kirk and Madsen had recognised but concealed 25 years previously. The College also now acknowledged that 'it is not the case that sexual orientation is immutable or might not vary to some extent during a person's life'.

The word 'postnatal' in the above affirmation is very important because it refers to events that happen after birth -- so the person was not born that way. Yet Professor King continues in denial: 'It is deeply misleading to state that people are not "born gay" and that their sexual desires can change.' He cites inter alia the work of the respected lesbian scholar Lisa Diamond.

Out of the bag

Unfortunately for Professor King, Lisa Diamond's research cannot be enlisted to support his claims. In July 2015, the New Scientist published her remarkable article, 'Sexuality is fluid -- it's time to get past "born this way".' She states: '... whenever someone comes up with a tag line like 'we're born that way', they ultimately do everyone involved a disservice. It is time to just take the whole idea of sexuality as immutable, the born this way notion, and just come to a consensus as scientists and as legal scholars that we need to put it to rest. It's unscientific ... it's totally irrelevant and just politics.'

This amounts to a complete unravelling of the strategy of Kirk and Madsen. But 'born gay' has done its work: the general public has been duped. Now they need to hear: 'You were misled. "Born gay" is dead and was never true!'

This does not of itself mean that therapy can help every individual to change their sexual 'orientation'. It does, however, open up that possibility, which gay activists have long sought to close down.

In California, now, the most draconian legislation to date is being promoted; will the church even realize what is happening and respond?

However, brave clients who have benefited from therapy are beginning to make their voices heard. CORE Issues Trust's excellent (but banned!) DVD, Voices of the Silenced, is being well received. One can purchase it here: https://www.core-issues.org/vos-dvd

May I suggest ordering a copy and seeing for yourself? If you think it beneficial, do pass it on to your church team.

Truncated responses

Some other groups are unwilling to explore the possibilities of change for those who have unwanted Same Sex Attraction (SSA). In my opinion, they are unable to offer a full analysis of what is going on, or engage with how best to respond.

Though individuals are undoubtedly helped through these ministries -- and God bless all the good they do -- the real threat is a pernicious ideology: Cultural Marxism, with its determination to stamp out 'bourgeois' values, and its totalitarian instincts. LGBT issues are but one aspect of what is far more encompassing, and which is rapidly enveloping the West, even the church.

Indeed, there appears to be little awareness that basic freedom is being destroyed, professionals forced to spout the 'Party Line', and millions of children force-fed a diet of LGBT rights. And on and on...

Getting on the front foot

Apart from exposing 'born gay' fraud and promoting the value of ministries like CORE, I would like to leave my readers with three comments.

First: Christians must fully re-engage with both Genesis and Jesus across issues of human sexuality. Who is immune from the damage of sexual brokenness? But here, to note, homosexuality is not an equivalent to heterosexuality: The former is post-Fall while heterosexuality is God-made and God-given. Our very bodies (with a tiny exception for intersex) are heterosexually designed. There is no such thing as a gay body!

Secondly, why has one narrative of SSA been privileged above others and allowed to dominate and silence them? How is that fair? Sadly, those with different stories are ignored and tacitly marginalised. A few years ago, an ex-gay friend preached at an evangelical church; afterwards he was told by half a dozen or so individuals (separately) that they too had the T-shirt but few knew. It was too risky to 'come out' in that way. Voices of the Silenced allows those who have been helped by therapy to speak. Please listen to them: I think they count too.

Thirdly, a dear friend has long struggled with unwanted SSA. He could locate no apparent reason why he had been cursed with it. Recently, though, there has been progress. Now with his third therapist, lights are coming on. But this would not have happened had he accepted he was 'born gay' or must be gay but celibate. In fact, his SSA is but the symptom of profound trauma, which God is beginning to heal.

So 'born gay'-- and all that is claimed along with it -- must go!

Dr Lisa Nolland, Virtue Online 20 Comments [11/28/2018 11:35:27 PM]
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Quote# 141360

Democrat Eric Swalwell: If Gun Owners Defy ‘Assault Weapons’ Ban, ‘The Government Has Nukes’

Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA) defended a potential "assault weapons" buyback Friday afternoon, saying that if gun owners defy a legislative ban, "the government has nukes."

The exchange began with conservative Twitter commentator Joe Biggs responding to a story on Swalwell's Thursday op-ed in USA Today, titled "Ban assault weapons, buy them back, go after resisters." "@RepSwalwell wants a war," Biggs wrote. "Because that's what you would get."

@Rambobiggs: So basically @RepSwalwell wants a war. Because that’s what you would get. You’re outta your fucking mind if you think I’ll give up my rights and give the gov all the power.

Swalwell responded by noting the government’s nuclear arsenal, writing: "And it would be a short war my friend. The government has nukes. Too many of them. But they’re legit. I'm sure if we talked we could find common ground to protect our families and communities."

@RepSwalwell: And it would be a short war my friend. The government has nukes. Too many of them. But they’re legit. I’m sure if we talked we could find common ground to protect our families and communities.

Biggs responded by asking, "So our government would nuke its own country in order to take guns? Wow."

Swalwell countered by asking Biggs to quit being "dramatic" about the casual reference to weapons of mass destruction:

@RepSwalwell: Don’t be so dramatic. You claiming you need a gun to protect yourself against the government is ludicrous. But you seem like a reasonable person. If an assault weapons ban happens, I’m sure you’ll follow law.

@RepSwalwell: Don’t be so dramatic. No one is nuking anyone or threatening that. I’m telling you this is not the 18th Century. The argument that you would go to war with your government if an assault weapons ban was in place is ludicrous and inflames the gun debate. Which is what you want.

On May 21, 2018, Breitbart News reported that Swalwell pushed an "assault weapons" ban that would be based on buybacks with criminal charges for those who did not comply. A similar buyback was used by the Australia government.

Eric Swalwell, Breitbart 11 Comments [11/27/2018 11:50:13 AM]
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Submitted By: Kadorhal

Quote# 141314

Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith (R-Miss.) appeared to endorse voter suppression during a campaign stop this month, saying efforts to undermine voting among liberals at certain colleges would be a “great idea.”

“And then they remind me that there’s a lot of liberal folks in those other schools who maybe we don’t want to vote,” Hyde-Smith can be heard telling a small crowd of young people outside her campaign bus in a video taken Nov. 3 and posted on online Thursday. “Maybe we want to make it just a little more difficult. And I think that’s a great idea.”

Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith, Yahoo 9 Comments [11/24/2018 1:36:26 PM]
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Submitted By: Doubting Thomas