Quote# 37627

This whole pushing of "alternative" lifestyles has me fed up with the system. Lets look at it for what it really is. If the guy down the street wants to mess around with your child in any sexual manner at all we call him a pedophile. But when the schools want to do the same things we are told that they are "progressive". I'm sorry, but I think the term pedophile fits both to a "T".

yogi3939, Rapture Ready 46 Comments [4/13/2008 5:20:40 PM]
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Quote# 37620

Yet it's a very real presence that can be seen if you don't blind yourself with prejudice.


Let's see you present some evidence for this presence.]

Certainly. First, accept God as your personal lord and saviour. Then, pray and meditate upon God and seek to understand the nature of God. Pray for God's guidance, and then read the bible to see what God has to say to you personally. And then, start observing the world around you, and you will see the evidence of God in other people all around you. Nothing is simpler, and there's no expensive lab costs.

But if you aren't willing to do that, then you are hardly in a position to criticize.

Darkeforce, I Read This 56 Comments [4/13/2008 5:20:03 PM]
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Quote# 37642

We believe the universe and all that is within it was created in 6 literal days because of one thing. JESUS RAISING UP FROM THE DEAD.


Since HE rose up from the dead, then Gen. 1:1 is correct and right. Then HE really did create the entire universe in 6 literal days.

Guess what? HE rose up from the dead! Now you are hosed!


ShieldOFaith, christianforums.com 73 Comments [4/13/2008 6:29:15 PM]
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Submitted By: Tammisto

Quote# 37655

There have been quite a few scientists, while trying intensely to prove the Scriptures wrong, that have found themselves right at Jesus' feet These ones have used Quantum Mathmatics[a Russian professor in the field], physics, biology, archaeology, and other disciplines of science trying to prove God does not exist, and instead have discovered that there is only ONE compilation of books that that they can not disprove And this compilation is known as our Bible, LOL These ones are now Believers working in the scientific fields providing scientific proof to skeptics that are analytical and need some kind of measure[of one form or another] giving them proof of their error.

Dave-BNBIH, RaptureReady 70 Comments [4/13/2008 8:06:57 PM]
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Quote# 119146

"I believe in Christians and I believe that the agenda of the Christian right is to oppose human rights and seek to impose its will on all citizens. It is a science denying cult that denies any facts that don't agree with the bible. Evolution is important, but climate change is critical and Christians lead the way in pretending it doesn't exist. I think your beliefs are a real danger. Granted, arguing with you here is not going to accomplish much, but there are people who are having doubts or who aren't committed who will be swayed by reason. Hanging out at Atheist Central and engaging Christians is a great way to find out what and how Christians think." Milo Krat

Thanks for being here Milo. I believe that your sincere agenda is to change our minds about the weather, and women's and gay rights.
Ours is a sincere agenda to see you saved from death and Hell.
The moment you come to know the Lord (find everlasting life), you too will fight to save the lives of children in the womb, and love gays enough to want to see them saved as you would anyone else.

You will see that Darwinian evolution has no scientific basis, and that climate change isn’t a hill to die on, because you will know Him who controls it.

Ray Comfort, Atheist Central 19 Comments [5/22/2016 4:46:51 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 41882

God made the rules for us – to protect us.
If he never made humans then murder would never be a moral issue. It’s only an issue for us – not God.

God can’t covet – He owns it all.
God can’t steal – again He owns the universe.
God can’t murder – He owns his creatures, He gave them life, He can take it back. (If you don’t like this truth it’s because you know you’re not ready to die; you’re not ready to meet God)
God can’t dishonor his mother and father – He didn’t have any, He’s eternal.

But yet as a man in Jesus Christ – God followed every single commandment. Why don't you look at the life of Christ for a moral judgment of God - then you can apply your "earthly" view of what God did as one of us - and then you'll see that God really is sinless.

[so rules don't apply to god, that's how he's "sinless" eh?]

Keith (ex-atheist), The Soap Box -- Comfort Food -- Ray Comfort's Blog 47 Comments [6/28/2008 4:53:11 PM]
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Submitted By: the_ignored

Quote# 130802

The Right: "I wish the Left would just shut up and go away."

The Left: "I wish the Right would die."

Who are the violent ones again?

Todd Layman, Twitter 18 Comments [8/21/2017 1:31:59 AM]
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Submitted By: Daspletosaurus

Quote# 38848

[on Obama having a Muslim father]

I never said he was a muslim. My argument has been that he has muslim fathers. And that IS the truth. That will set the Arab street on fire, if the US elects this man as president. They only need to hear that the US elected the "son of a muslim". We all know how they act...they don't need the truth to set them off. They construct their own truths. Anyone educated on islam knows that.

THAT does not make us look "crackpottish". Ellison, a muslim MN congressman DID swear in on the Quran. That should have never happened.

HisA;ways, Rapture Ready 38 Comments [5/7/2008 9:47:44 PM]
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Quote# 137690

Aghdam, like me and so many other people, had been targeted by the YouTube cyber-bullies. As an independent media person whose content offended powerful special interests, Aghdam was apparently censored by YouTube, killing traffic to her site and destroying the business she had worked so hard to build.

When a bully targets someone, that person essentially has two choices: fight back or die (spiritually, morally, etc. if not physically). I know Jesus allegedly said to turn the other cheek. But in the real world, that usually doesn’t work with bullies.

The best way to fight back is with heart, mind, and words, maintaining the self-control necessary to wage a strategic war against the bully over the long term. That’s what I’ve been doing (for 15 years now) about the bullies who blew up the three World Trade Center skyscrapers, and the Constitution, on September 11, 2001.

Another way to fight back is to just go off on them—violently, physically. That is what I did to the two guys who bullied me when I was a teenager. In both cases I got sick of putting up with their BS and accepted their challenges to fight. The first one started crying when I landed a hard punch in the vicinity of his ear. The second one quit after suffering a black eye. Thankfully, neither one was permanently injured. (After growing up, I learned there were some very good reasons NEVER to punch people. See OnePunchHomicide.com.)

The possibility that a bullying target might go off on the bully—I mean, REALLY go off—is a deterrent to bullying. I hope the YouTube cyberbullies learn their lesson from the martyrdom of Nasim Aghdam. Youtube MUST return to a fully content-neutral policy: ending its “strikes,” reversing its vicious and unconstitutional attempt to demonetize the alternative media, and only removing material if there is a strong prima facie case that it violates the law.

Kevin Barrett, Veterans Today 7 Comments [4/4/2018 2:13:09 PM]
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Quote# 137672

How can a child consent to sex with an adult?

Children consent to all kinds of things every day. Ask any parent how difficult it can be to get a strong willed child to do anything from homework to kiss that auntie they don't like.

Many children help to look after disabled family members, help to run families, help in so many ways because children are respected and capable members of society. They don't have a vote of course despite often being smarter than many adults and so without any voice in how they are governed they remain the last section of society without a voice or rights.

Now with regards to sex, why is sex so impossible for a child to understand compared to everything else they cope with in normal life? I was a very sexual child, it was one of the few things I knew I enjoyed. There are also books and research that show this is really very common. We as adults just like to present children as asexual beings too sweet to want anything other than play with toys and sing choir songs.

Humanrespect, reddit 10 Comments [4/3/2018 10:03:49 PM]
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Quote# 137641

Sunday Funny: Hillary

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - News Network 22 Comments [4/2/2018 12:00:10 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 97222

Wow, this comment really opened my eyes. I mean, this is mind blowing stuff. You make some powerful points, except ... let’s put the Hitchens-Dawkins Kool-Aid down for a while and look at reality: Kalaam Cosmological Argument, the Argument from Reason, Fine Tuning of Universal Constants, irreducible biological complexity, the argument from morality…. Your entire world view lies shattered at your feet. If you truly honor the gods of reason and critical thinking half as much as you claim, you would plant your face firmly into your hand, step away from the device, find a quiet place, and rethink your life. Indeed, why are you even bothering to comment at all? No atheistic position can be taken seriously until two threshold questions can coherently be answered. 1. Why is the atheist even engaging in the debate. On atheism, there is no objective basis for even ascertaining truth; there is no immaterial aspect to consciousness and all mental states are material. Therefore, everyone who ever lived and ever will live could be wrong about a thing. By what standard would that ever be ascertained on atheism? Also if atheism is true, there is no objective meaning to existence and no objective standard by which the ‘rational’ world view of atheism is more desirable, morally or otherwise, to the ‘irrational’ beliefs of religion. Ridding the world of the scourge of religion, so that humanity can ‘progress’ or outgrow it, is not a legitimate response to this because on atheism, there is no reason to expect humanity to progress or grow. We are a historical accident that should fully expect to be destroyed by the next asteriod, pandemic, or fascist atheist with a nuke. In short, if atheism is correct, there is no benefit, either on an individual or societal level, to knowing this or to spreading such ‘knowledge.’ 2. Related to this, why is the atheist debater even alive to participate. If there is no heaven, no hell, no afterlife at all, only an incredibly window of blind pitiless indifference, then the agony of struggling to exist, seeing loved ones die, and then dying yourself can never be outweighed by any benefit to existing. As rude as it way sound (and I AM NOT advocating suicide) the atheist should have a coherent explanation for why they chose to continue existing. Failure to adequately address these threshold questions should result in summary rejection of the neckbeard’s position.

In the end, we all know you can’t answer these questions because yours is a petty, trivial, localized, earth bound philosophy, unworthy of the universe.

Finally, is there a basement dwelling troll left in the multiverse who doesn’t drag themselves out of the primordial ooze and logged onto this site in order to announce our collective atheism towards Thor, that gardens can be beautiful without fairies (a powerful rebuttal to fairy apologetics, by the way, but it leaves a lot unanswered about the Gardener), and that we cling to Bronze Age skymen due to our fear of the dark? Let me translate that to neckbeard: you are unoriginal, you are wrong, and you are an ass.

Steve Willy, Patheos 48 Comments [10/22/2013 3:34:29 AM]
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Submitted By: Nemo

Quote# 37673

I don't know if the birds or any other creature knows about God per say, but I do know birds instinctively return to build their nests each year in anticipation of the new lives within them. Who is there to say they have no knowledge of their own dependency on their Creator?? My dog has an adoration for us we humans would do well to have for God. Where did he learn this kind of dedication~~maybe he too senses he belongs to the Creator. Animals are always proving how really intelligent they are. Dogs are trained for a whole variety of services and other animals are too. And the lovely music the birds provide certainly may be a tribute to the Creator. Who knows?

run2Jesus, RaptureReady 44 Comments [4/14/2008 11:20:57 PM]
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Quote# 137659

If you want to be Biblical, a believer does in fact have a “license to sin” (only in the sense that the gift of eternal life cannot be forfeited). No sin that a believer commits can ever jeopardize one's Eternal Security. To teach otherwise is to negate the gift of God and teach a false Gospel of self-righteousness. Salvation is the gift of God, based upon Christ's imputed righteousness to our account (and not any good of our own). We are saved by grace through faith (Ephesians 2:8,9). Salvation is receiving, not giving.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 22 Comments [4/3/2018 11:17:02 AM]
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Quote# 137686

As governments, media companies and social media companies become more censorious, pro-free speech terrorism could become a growing phenomenon. You could make the case that Breivik was a pro-free speech terrorist, too, as well as the NSU in Germany.

czakal, Twitter 5 Comments [4/4/2018 2:11:58 PM]
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Submitted By: hydrolythe

Quote# 137684

being vegan is about compassion, people have this idea that if you are a vegan you think you are better than non vegans, this is not true, it just means you have become educated on the subject and made the right choice.

Cat M jein, Youtube 7 Comments [4/4/2018 2:10:56 PM]
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Submitted By: hydrolythe

Quote# 37707

Perhaps God made Uranus that way so we would notice that all the planets aren't spinning the same way, like they should be if they naturally formed.

My explanation is just as valid as the scientist's "guess."

Self-Mutation, IIDB 58 Comments [4/15/2008 3:39:23 AM]
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Quote# 137667

If there were not legal repercussions, do you think that you would be intimate with a young person?

If it were legal AND socially accepted (or at least tolerated) then I might be interested in having a kind of relationship with a young girl. I imagine it would be essentially a close friendship and nothing more unless she were genuinely interested in exploring and learning about her body and sexuality, and that anything with regard to that would be done on her initiative. I would make certain she was completely comfortable and in control and that her feelings were paramount, and that she could ask me to stop at any moment and I wouldn't be disappointed or angry. I'd take any health considerations into account (hygiene, condoms etc) and wouldn't do anything to her that could physically harm her, ie penetrative sex. Ultimately though the most important thing would be the emotional connection and making her happy and feel loved.

However, in reality, the legal repercussions and the social taboo combine to result in an almost uniformly negative result (though there are exceptions) for any child involved in such a relationship, even under the conditions described above. The fact that doing so is illegal means putting the child into a situation where they would need to hide such a relationship and feel ashamed or conflicted over it, or reveal it and have their adult boyfriend/girlfriend go to jail, and be told that they were abused and that the adult didn't love them and only used them for their own desires - this is true in some or possibly most cases, but would also happen in a theoretical "positive" adult-child relationship. Either way, the child ends up hurt and thus it can not be justified to engage in such a relationship.

I don't think a theoretical positive relationship as described would necessarily be abuse, but I do think it would be abuse to subject a child to the repercussions of it.

silentGL, reddit 3 Comments [4/3/2018 10:03:11 PM]
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Quote# 137678

Do you think the "Heaven's Gate" cult had some things correct? instead of an alien spaceship riding on the back of the hale-bop comet coming to bring us to the next evolutionary plane above human, they misunderstood that it is the Merkaba instead bringing us to our higher selves?

yimnerr, Youtube 10 Comments [4/4/2018 2:19:59 AM]
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Submitted By: hydrolythe

Quote# 137676

Giving escorts fake money

Joke thought experiment

I don’t see escorts but I just had this idea to get you incels laid consistently

Go to independent escort for outcall (call her with vpn or fake number)

Bang her

Leave her couple fake $100 bills


What is she gonna do?

You can go on a slaying spree with this method

Chillhop, incels.me 23 Comments [4/3/2018 10:04:09 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 136364

The entire nature of the bullshit white men are taught today makes them inadequate, as it goes against female nature.
Does consent exist in nature?
So who thinks about consent?
Losers think about consent.
Can women be fully lesbian?
No, they can't.
So why do some women turn fully lesbian?
Because they're disgusted by men.
Does contraception exist in nature?
So who uses contraception?
Losers use contraception.
Are dates a good way to get modern Western women?
No, dates are a horrible way to get modern Western women, since these women don't want to be treated civilly or be talked to.
So who goes on dates?
Losers go on dates.
Who washes their ass?
Entitled, boring straight white guys wash their ass.
You never see blacks, Muslims or such groups do any of this. Yet nobody's accusing them of anything.
Men who are not inadequate do what they want with women and colonize them with pregnancies. Yet the society teaches men not to do that.

Inadequacy comes from applying the standards that go against human nature.

Why do so many men have problems with women?

Because women hate men. And for good reason.

Men who aren't to be hated have no notion of nonsense like consent, contraception or female's will.

caamib, FSTDT comments 48 Comments [2/1/2018 1:47:54 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 37736

"Now my daughter wants to spend her life saving the earth or whatever. The schools around here are heavy into going green and ultimate socialism. She has been taught by the school system to go out into the world to give everything she has to them as well as recycling everything to the extreme. When I tried explaining to her how much gas it costs to drive to our nearest recycling center and how much trash we'd have to have piled here waiting to be recycled in order to make the trip worth it, she didn't get what the problem is. The place looks like a trash dump. I'll tell her to throw something away, and she'll hide it somewhere. Whenever I find something that was supposed to go into the garbage that she hoarded away to recycle and throw it away, she pitches a fit like I'm so horrible for throwing something away. After a milk container that wasn't even rinsed out has been stashed somewhere, it gets really smelly...if you know what I mean. I live nearly 40 minutes from a recycling facility. I don't want to collect garbage. I try to tell her that she cannot save the earth anyway, that God is going to destroy this earth and make a new one and she shrugs me off or something, not sure exactly how to describe her reaction. "

Mezuzas, RaptureReady 70 Comments [4/16/2008 12:51:36 AM]
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Quote# 37694

The wife and I homeschool our children with great results. How are they going to enforce this multicultralism bull-plop in our home? I dare them to try.

We have no fears of terrorists taking over the bus our kids could be on, no fears of school shootings, no fears of indoctrination, no fear of our kids parenting the teacher's child - I can on for hours.

Just recently, some District slag tried to give us a hard time claiming that our kids would suffer socialy from homeschooling. After a slight debate (I was civil, she was going off on rants), I finally realized why the public and private school folks constantly bring this up - they don't warn of developmental problems; they threaten it. She threatened us with blackballing.

Our family has consistantly yelled at local government to stop stealing our money to fund their illegal activities like public education and welfare. They just brush us off 'til election season. Then they act like "Huh? We brushed you off?" and then say whatever they think we want to hear to get our vote.

If the Islamofacists think they can enforce their psychobabble in our home where I am Lord-Protector and Heavenly Father fights our battles; then they'd better be ready for a fight!

bhparkman, Debbie Schlussel 65 Comments [4/15/2008 8:55:14 AM]
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Submitted By: ben

Quote# 37712

[On the subject of an elementary school having a 'rainbow day.']

Well, I decided not to let my daughter go to school that day. She understands fully what this day is for. I explained to her that they are doing this day to show support of homosexuality and she immediately said "no, no, no, I will not go to school that day and you can just tell them I'm sick because it makes me sick". Spoken from a 6 yr old!
I am so proud of her and G-d has given her such a deep understanding spiritually that it's amazing.

kelly, Rapture Ready 75 Comments [4/15/2008 6:55:32 PM]
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