Quote# 140075

[Under thread "Slavery yay or nay?"]

@ImALivingJoke:
@NationalUnity2001:
National Socialism is the belief that every race should have a homeland and that every people should be in their homeland. You can't have an ethno-state if half your country is slaves of another race. National Socialists do not support slavery. No one who wants to be taken seriously does. What an absurd question to ask on a sub for intellectual discussion.
I'm not a National Socialist, by the way.


But the Nazis enslaved countless numbers of people in the course of the war.
How can you say that Nazism opposes slavery when we have evidence they actively enslaved people?

@LivefromPhoenix:
@GreatEmuWarVeteran:
@LivefromPhoenix:
@GreatEmuWarVeteran:
conscription =/= slavery. Plenty of British colonials were conscripted against their will, no one calls that slavery.


Maybe because they were paid and weren't forced to stay in the British military forever?


Huh, the Germans only resorted to using prisoners and conscripts from occupied countries towards the end of the war, they certainly weren't planning on using them forever lol.


The Nazi government mandated massive indefinite compulsory service as early as the late 1930s and began the process of using prisoners of war and civilian "undesirables" from occupied territories in 1942 at the latest (hardly 'towards the end of the war').
they certainly weren't planning on using them forever lol


I guess you're right in a roundabout way, Nazi administrators planned on working their slaves to death.


Posted by AHAPPYMERCHANT:
from occupied territories in 1942 at the latest (hardly 'towards the end of the war').


You're retarded. The war was over by mid to late 1942 and it was only a matter of time. From that point onward, Germany had crippling manpower shortages that necessitated they use slaves in order to keep war production high enough to succeed. They had no choice.

NationalUnity2001, GreatEmuWarVeteran and AHAPPYMERCHANT, Reddit - r/DebateFascism 8 Comments [8/28/2018 12:50:06 PM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 140169

What is radiometric dating? Does it fit with the view of a young earth?
Radiometric dating is the way that scientists determine the age of matter. Radiometric dating techniques are applied to inorganic matter (rocks, for example) while radiocarbon dating is the method used for dating organic matter (plant or animal remains). The idea of a young earth, as presented in the Bible, is not compatible with the findings of radiometric dating.

What does this mean for Christians? Are we forced to accept that the Bible is inaccurate or not literal, based on what radiometric dating has found? It's a good question. First, let's look at what radiometric dating is, and how scientists determine the age of matter.

Radiometric dating is based on the rate of decay of certain isotopes, which is defined as: "each of two or more forms of the same element that contain equal numbers of protons but different numbers of neutrons in their nuclei, and hence differ in relative atomic mass but not in chemical properties; in particular, a radioactive form of an element." The isotope Uranium-238 (U238) is one of these unstable, radioactive isotopes. Over time, U238 decays and goes through many unstable stages, until it finally becomes stable as Lead-206 (Pb206). U238 is the "parent" isotope, and Pb206 is the "daughter" isotope.

Scientists found that by measuring the amounts of both parent and daughter isotopes in matter (seeing how much of the U238 has stabilized into Pb206), they could accurately calculate the age of that matter. For example, it takes 4,460,000,000 years for half a sample of U238 to turn into Pb206. So, if they found a rock that contained an exactly equal amount of these two isotopes, they could date that rock at exactly 4,460,000,000 years old.

There is no question that radiometric dating is accurate—provided that certain assumptions are true. First, we must assume that the rate of decay of U238 into Pb206 has remained constant over time. Second, we have to assume that no other chemical processes have adulterated the rate of decay (no amount of either parent or daughter has been added or taken away from the specimen). Third, we have to assume we know how much of each the parent and the daughter were present at the beginning of the decay process. The rate of isotope decay will always remain the same, but the accuracy of radiometric dating depends on these assumptions being correct for the specimen in question.

Assumptions two and three are not by any means certain, because how can we really know, having not watched the specimen over its entire life, how much of each isotope was present at the beginning, and whether or not anything was added or taken away? We can't know, so scientists are working on reasonable guesswork there. However, the first assumption (that the rate of isotope decay has remained constant over millions of years) has always been pretty much unquestionable—until recently. New research has found evidence to suggest that isotopes decayed at different rates in the unobservable past. This research is based on yet another element, called helium.

Helium is a gas—very light, with very small atoms, and is unreactive. Helium is a byproduct of the decay process of U238 into Pb206. As the uranium isotopes pass through their unstable stages on the way to becoming lead isotopes, they let off helium. Now, scientists found some crystals called zircons within granite specimens, which still contain a good deal of helium. According to radiometric dating, these zircons (and the surrounding granite) should be 1.5 billion years old. But if that were true, the helium, because of its nature, would have escaped from the rock over that much time (its atoms are smaller and lighter than the atoms of the zircons). However, there was still plenty of helium inside the zircons. It should have slowly seeped out, but it didn't. Because of this, scientists can now assume that the zircons, and the surrounding granite (a type of Precambrian granite that is the same across the entire planet) cannot be more than 4,000 to 14,000 years old.

New research has determined that radiometric dating is not an infallible method. This example shows that there is still so much that we do not know. Scientific discovery is important, and should never be discouraged, but when it contradicts the Bible, it is rational for Christians to reserve judgment and wait for further evidence to be revealed.

Resources:

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/aid/v6/n1/accelerated-nuclear-decay

http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/dating.asp

Michael Houdmann, Compelling Truth 7 Comments [8/29/2018 2:01:17 PM]
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Quote# 140139

Harvest Baptist Church is a big religious school with a church on the side. What a sad joke for a ministry!!! That is my humble opinion. They never cared about me, only their little snobby clique of Bob Jones University graduates and rich airplane pilots. I say, to Hell with Harvest Baptist Cult and their satanic counterfeit Alexandrian Bible versions!!! To Hell with Harvest Baptist Cult on Guam and their ungodly support of satanic false prophet, a boastful 5-point Calvinist, Dr. John MacArthur!!! To Hell with their heresy of Lordship Salvation, and for them bidding Godspeed to ecumenical false prophet Ravi Zacharias!!! Churches like Harvest are the reason why so many people will never step foot into a church, because it's all phony and people see right through it! There is no power of the Holy Spirit!!!

I am torn between my love and duty as a believer to stand for THE TRUTH (Ephesians 5:11; 6:12; Titus 1:10-13; Galatians 3:1-3), and my need as a human being for fellowship with a local body of Christian believers in a church. So Harvest has put me into a peculiar situation where I either have to compromise my stand, and go along to get along with their apostasy just to have a church family; or I can stay home an take a stand with no social life, and be lonely and likely never find a wife. I actually chose the former in early 2017, desperate for fellowship in a church. But now they won't even take me back, and so I am forced to do the latter, and I am standing, hence this article (and many more to come, Lord willing). Someone needs to tell THE TRUTH! Someone needs to take a stand for God's Word, to uphold its purity, inspiration and authority. The pastors and staff at Harvest have social lives, wives, friends, so what do they care if I don't, right? They are some of the most selfish, shallow, arrogant and insensitive people I have ever met. They have sold-out to ecumenism, sold-out to promote sinister ministers like Ravi Zacharias and John MacArthur. They have decided to go along with the corrupt religious world, to find their niche and take their slice of the money pie. Bob Jones University is a joke today!

I am not bitter against Harvest, I am disgusted how they have mistreated me as an individual, and continue to do so, because if they'll crap on me (and they have), they'll crap on anybody who is not in their little clique. That is as ungodly as anything in Satan's world of darkness!!! When a so-called “church” sees a man hurting, knowing that he is in bodily and emotional pain (and I have the e-mails to prove they knew, and a prayer list from their church with my name on it from 2014, until they forced me out and gave up on me), and have suffered a divorce (I have it in writing that she refused to reconcile with me), and lost everything in this life, and have done nothing to hurt anyone, they are evildoers!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 19 Comments [8/28/2018 1:35:39 PM]
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Quote# 47095

About me: I was a Yahoo Answers participant before. I was banned because Yahoo apparently wishes to silence the message of God. But I am back. Neither me or God will be silenced.

This shows that Yahoo is against both me and our Lord.

Soldier for Salvation, Yahoo! Answers 47 Comments [9/10/2008 8:25:13 PM]
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Submitted By: M.M.

Quote# 140129

The left has concocted a lucrative category of politically correct victims: "climate refugees." It's the new Green racket.
U.S. taxpayers will now be forking over untold billions to ease the pain allegedly inflicted on "carbon's casualties" by industrial activity. By contrast, those who have suffered as a direct result of government incompetence by federal environmental bureaucrats continue to get the shaft.

Consider the plight of two tribes: the Biloxi-Chitimacha-Choctaw in Louisiana and the Navajo Nation in New Mexico.

LOUISIANA2-superJumbo-v3The New York Times splashed a viral story on its pages this week spotlighting the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development's $48 million grant to Native-Americans who live in the flood-ravaged coastal community of Isle de Jean Charles. About 60 residents, the majority of whom belong to the Biloxi-Chitimacha-Choctaw tribe, will be resettled to drier land.

That's a whopping $800,000 per "climate refugee!"

Never mind that the Times' propagandists themselves admit that erosion on the island began in 1955 as a result of land-use and land-management factors that had nothing to do with climate change.

"Channels cut by loggers and oil companies eroded much of the island," the paper reported, "and decades of flood control efforts have kept once free-flowing rivers from replenishing the wetlands' sediments."

Never mind that there are conflicting scientific analyses on the extent to which man-made greenhouses gases have caused sea levels to rise; whether the rate is accelerating; and how much, if any, reducing carbon emissions would actually mitigate purportedly rising sea levels.

Never mind that enviro-alarmists have conveniently changed their tune from blaming global warming for causing sea level rises to blaming global warming for causing sea level drops.

Oh, and never mind that many of the inhabitants of Isle de Jean Charles—whose forefathers originally moved there to escape forced government relocation under the 1830 Indian Removal Act—don't even want to leave and have fought resettlement efforts for decades.

Obama's social engineers are already plotting how to replicate the climate change relocation program. "We see this as setting a precedent for the rest of the country, the rest of the world," declared HUD official Marion McFadden, who is running the program.

Even worse, the United Nations is looking to preemptively "address extreme weather displacement" by targeting refugees even before any apocalyptic event has caused them to seek refuge.

Can you spell "manufacturing a crisis"?

While these meddling liberals conspire to displace one tribe in the name of saving the planet, another tribe is still begging for help after Obama's destructive EPA poisoned their waters.

It's been almost eight months since an Environmental Protection Agency contractor recklessly knocked a hole at the long-abandoned Gold King Mine in Colorado's San Juan Mountains. You should know that Washington has long schemed to declare it a Superfund site, which would increase its power, budget and access over the region.

A federally sponsored wrecking crew poking around in the mine last August triggered a 3 million-ton flood of bright orange gunk into the Animas River. EPA's blithering idiots delayed notifying local residents for 24 hours and downplayed the toxic spill's effects.

Downstream, the muck seeped into the San Juan River in New Mexico, where the Navajo Nation lives and farms. The impact on drinking water and livelihoods has been catastrophic. But the Obama administration refused the tribe's request for disaster relief from FEMA last fall and yanked emergency water tanks the EPA had supplied for Navajo livestock.

Michelle Malkin, VDARE 10 Comments [8/28/2018 8:28:30 PM]
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Quote# 117795

In recent months, Liberty University has endorsed Trump. That made me lose some respect for Liberty University. They should be able easily to discern that Trump is an liberal/evil man who does not believe in Christian/normal-non-psychopathic person values like preventing the murders of unborn babies.

I am disappointed that LU has made such a grievous moral error.

Navaros , IMDB 9 Comments [3/31/2016 3:22:48 AM]
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Quote# 10466

I am both a homophobe (proud of it) and a person that believes in individual Rights.

Theway2k, Positive Liberty 32 Comments [3/29/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 109866

[About the Edmonton, Ontario gay pride]

I tried to drive though the area this afternoon. absolutely disgusting, they even have sidewalks next to a church painted over with the homo rainbow.
Disturbing to see the typical age demographic and realize what years of this politically correct media movement have done to destroy the youth of this country. Was almost all people (hesitate to call them that) under 40 there for the most part.
If we keep it up at this rate, in another 10 years we will see thousands come out to support bestiality and pedophilia as the next wave of de-evolution.

Props to the author for calling it as they see it.

Wellsaid, The Third Edge of the Sword 17 Comments [6/21/2015 5:57:12 PM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 21984

By darwin's theory, why HAVEN't we evovled laserbeam penises?

Evolving shit out of nowhere seems to be the running theme of darwin's theory.

kidnet, LUElinks 60 Comments [3/12/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 49404

Atheists: If there really is no God, then why does the sun travel across the center of the sky?
The Earth is positioned so that the sun travels across the center of the sky. How can evolution explain this?

Soldier for Salvation, Yahoo Answers 44 Comments [10/9/2008 4:08:10 PM]
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Submitted By: onein6billion

Quote# 1727

Is it me or has anyone else noticed, at least for what I can say of Charmed [a primetime drama about three witches], that there is actually a pull to stay watching that program, I kid you not, I've noticed this several times, while I have caught segments of their shows, I began to sense a real supernatual power that is drawing even me to watch!

I think there really is some hidden demonic power behind the show, that was never intened of its producer and that a force is helping generate deception as in the kids not wanting Christianity, but wanting witchcraft from watchign shows like Charmed, Buffy, Angel.

TonyM, Rapture Ready 20 Comments [7/29/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 129113

Naples should be destroyed by God through Vesuvius. I am recommending him to that next. It's on his to do list

GabrielleLevenkron , Deviantart forums 15 Comments [7/11/2017 2:29:33 PM]
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Quote# 30679

Personally i think that [Criss Angel] has made some type of deal with the devil. Yes i know it sounds crazy, but it has been proven with other rock bands and other celebrities.

I saw him on TV one time walk from building to building 50 feet in the air with no ropes or anything..It looked like he was flying...very creepy.

He cant do any type of magic with the color blue or the number 7...it sure makes you think doesnt it?


Saved405, Rapture Ready 44 Comments [11/1/2007 12:05:30 AM]
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Quote# 140143

Agree with the homosexuality thing. Perverts are placed in all positions and it hinders cultural development. Who wants to be in programs if there is always going to be some creepy molester there? For example, do you want a child to do scouts or the arts or the clergy knowing that there is going to be some potential homosexual pedophile there that the institution is going to cover for? It makes people not want to participate in activities. Think of all the talented people we never got to see because they would not get on the zio casting couch.

Also, I would say it is not healthy when every overpaid sports and entertainment figure hates the country, hates the anthem, hates the flag, is foul-mouthed and vulgar and in a perpetual state of protesting the very country and people that made the location what it is. It's actually a buzzkill. It's become shameful and embarrassing to see most media and entertainment in the country. It is not something anyone can really be proud of. Especially, having to know that so many positions are just given away based on quotas for psyop purposes.

One could say the very same thing for the schools. If students are showing up just to hear their people being called racist, misogynistic, anti-semitic, you know, the whole Hillary list= a “basket of deplorables” made up of “racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic” people, then why bother even having a school if you hate the American people so much? In fact, instead of "progress," it seems the list of things to hate Americans for has only grown longer from the left.

LoveTheWhites, Stormfront 9 Comments [8/28/2018 1:36:04 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 140085

Many would disagree with you. The family who could not transport a little girl on a plane because the equipment she needed was denied was flying on trumps private plane. These kinds of stories are never mentioned by Trump. We find out from others. He has, without fanfare, handed over so many checks for needy.

What he is doing for angel parents is incredible.

He lifted rules of engagement in military so they could have better chance of protecting themselves and living. He has made it so soldiers with PTSD or other ailments can get care at regular doctors offices.

He is accused of separating families at border and media lies to say he did this when he is the one that fixed it. It was started with Obama.

There have never been more people employed IN This country than ever in our history, salararies are going up exponentially. People are proud of themselves again, able to participate in more family BBQs and save a little money, more going on vacation, black employment is way up, so is Hispanic and women. So Re those without high school degrees.

Bush apparently wasn't faithful in early marriage. Neither Bush. Clinton never was and still isn't. He raped someone. Is that what you mean by family values?

What trump did he is not proud of and it was a long time ago. He has apparently made amends with his wife and family. He admitted he was a good father, terrible husband but he is trying to make up for it.

Human beings are not perfect, but he is not as bad as some of the others who were revered.

Trump does not take a dime of his paycheck. He also paid for his own campaign. He rarely says "I" in his speeches. It is almost always WE. Unlike Obama. He honors military folks, he honors ordinary working folks, he asks what they need to help them do better.

He is the people's president and we love him for it.

Some don't Like his tweets but the MSM goes with group think such as was written here, false narratives and without his tweets, we would not know the truth. After all, he is tweeting what most of us have been screaming at the tv for at least eight years.

God Bless America. God Bless President Trump. May God watch over him and give him strength.


President Trump has given us HOPE.

Shar, Realabortiondebate 12 Comments [8/28/2018 12:50:37 PM]
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Quote# 139168

Ah, but Christianity IS in the Bible. So if catholicism is the original church, true church, and all that other nonsense that they claim, why aren't they in the Bible?

Guest Verified, Christian News Network 11 Comments [8/28/2018 12:10:53 PM]
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Submitted By: Bob J

Quote# 140127

Natives are on our side they hate minorities more than we do. They know they wont get a thin dime if chinese or muslims takeover. They already see how corrupt these people are in canada and their own nations, also indians from india. I could never figure out how 75 different white cultures from 75 nations get lumped into ONE group ??

Carmudgeon_49, Eurocanadian 5 Comments [8/28/2018 12:56:51 PM]
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Quote# 139140

wullaj: From the video description: "Progressive churches demand that we accept refugees with open arms..." No. Jesus commanded that. Sorry if that sucks but maybe you should find another religion?

Bob Shiloh: No he did not.

Bob Shiloh, Patheos 2 Comments [8/28/2018 12:10:27 PM]
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Quote# 139835

(=Perthshire Pride: Church of Scotland minister apologises to LGBT community for ‘cruelty and injustice’=)

This man does not speak for all of us Christians and the majority of us follow the Bible. We will never apologize for following the Word of God no matter how it makes you people feel. So you need to just get over it already.

Natalie, Pink News 6 Comments [8/28/2018 12:32:05 PM]
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Submitted By: CC

Quote# 139329

Most people, especially those outside the country but also including people living here, seem to think “Duterte = war on drugs = killing people”. This is not true.

Duterte is not all about the War on Drugs. Yes he is pretty determined and focused on this, and is a top priority for him, but he has also done a lot of other great improvements to the country and has also tackled other problems. (Relations with the Muslim population, traffic, online gambling, etc)

This being said, “war on drugs =/= killing people only”.

People and most media often highlight “man killed in war on drugs”. Often the main points are just the negative effects, or the effects explained in a negative tone. What they don’t know is that:

After 6 months of the drug war, only 6000 have been killed
Most of these are the dangerous individuals of the community. They are the ones who will kill you for failing to pay up, failing to sell enough, trying to come clean and stop drugs, reporting them to authorities.. and even for just accidentally entering their illegal drug dens.
Most of these would rather shoot back at police and die fighting that surrender peacefully.
After 6 months of the drug war, more than 1 million have surrendered on their own and are currently getting the much needed rehabilitation they need. No other president has achieved this. (Palace: more than 1-M surrendered amid drug war)
If they can be disciplined and determined to stop, after a few months, they will be off their addiction and have a 2nd chance as a new clean life.
Just because someone was killed in the drug war does not automatically mean it is related in the drug war. A person could have been shot in a failed holdup attempt. A person could have been shot due to road rage. A person could have been shot because of unpaid debts.
Some of the killings are actually from the drug lords who want to silence pushers/buyers who want to surrender (and possible rat them out to police)
If your drug-using family member was accused of using drugs, most often you would plead to sympathy and insist that he/she is “a good responsible person who would never hurt anyone.”, that he/she is “someone who would never use drugs.” Even if it is not true.

The government has already taken hold of drug and non-drug evidence amounting to P8.21 billion, exceeding the value of drugs seized in the past 5 years.

Based from my readings, once a drug addict has been into it for some time now, it will be very, very difficult for him/her to get back to the normal state. It will take a lot of time, effort and money to rehabilitate the patient. And in some cases, relapse is common, because the environment of the patient is one of the 'cues' for relapse - it acts as a stimulus that is very hard to resist.



Duterte wasn’t my choice for president. But I admire what he has done and achieved as our elected president.

He has achieved many things, among those is the drug war, but not just the drug war itself.

LIST: Duterte admin's 2016 accomplishments

Red Subijano, quora 3 Comments [8/28/2018 12:13:03 PM]
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Quote# 139451

If evolution was true I would expect to see abundant non-lethal mutations among all the species of life on Earth today. Shouldn't there be a person somewhere who has tooth enamel on his scalp instead of hair?

LES, Vox Popoli 10 Comments [8/28/2018 12:20:05 PM]
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Submitted By: David

Quote# 139730

There's virtually NOTHING on the internet about the relation between immodesty and sexual crimes, almost as if it's a taboo subject for the mainstream newsmedia. Sadly, even the churches and Christians are silent. Even if you have a small unknown website, your articles will show up at the top of the search engine if you address the topic that no one else does. You won't find hardly anything connecting sexual sins with television, sexual music and immodest dress on women. Yet these three are the main cause of all the sexual crimes today.

American girls have been taught by television, fashion magazines and by example to wear miniskirts, tights and low-cut blouses. Women are not stupid, they know what lust does to men. Sexual lust corrupts a society. Those women are evil, deliberately arousing men for the fun of doing it, and God will punish them for every man they arouse by dressing and/or behaving like prostitutes. Many people laugh at my moral preaching; but you'll be weeping in bitter tears of regret on Judgment Day, I assure you.

Why is it so hard for people to understand that when girls and women walk around naked and wearing the attire of a harlot, sexual sins and crimes increase? It's not rocket science. Why doesn't anyone talk about these evils in the world today? It's because most people are guilty, or have loved one's who are guilty of dressing lewd in public. Victoria's Secret is no longer a secret, because society has become so promiscuous and filthy that lingerie is no longer a private matter.

Women in public and on TV are clothed in lingerie like they're ready for sex on their wedding night. TV's Late Night talk shows and smutty prime-time sitcoms and programs have corrupted American culture. The U.S. is like a stinking sewer of moral rot, saturated with crawling maggots, dung and the stench of death. We're beyond code blue. America is as a stiff corpse with rigor mortis. Our nation is dead spiritually for God; yet saturated with spirits of demons.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 16 Comments [8/28/2018 12:20:51 PM]
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Quote# 138109

(=Additional qoutes against Chuck McKnight and his support for Polygamy=)

Laura Lowder: This is where I want to take a DEEEEP breath and deliver a lecture on the Theology of the Body and the profound significance of monogamy --- heterosexual monogamy. But it would fall on deaf ears.
BUT there is no such thing as a "Faithful Christian" who practices polyamory. Theologically impossible

Mike Spencer: What a tragic and sickening betrayal of Christ. You are going to hell and taking others with you. Just buying millstones for your neck at the moment.

Matt Kellon Robinson: What a tragic and sickening betrayal of Christ. You are going to hell and taking others with you. Just buying millstones for your neck at the moment..

Richard Williams: It's time for the writer of this article to realize that their beliefs and the true Christian Church can not coexist as one because they are advocating for sin to be accepted.

Ray D: This is great satire. Oh, wait, it's not satire. Someone actually believes this load of B.S.

Laura Lowder, Patheos 5 Comments [7/8/2018 7:58:43 AM]
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Quote# 140135

It won't be my science then that discovers how half the body goes numb by virtue of our attitude towards our
Creator's son causing us to start dying internally long before we die...or that this lack of breathing to full capacity in that numbed lung, over a sustained period causes us to be susceptible to blood clotting...strokes...brain tumours...heart disease...dementia...and a few other things besides. It's my latest project...but it is early days yet..so pretend I haven't told you...but the evidence, so far, indicates I'm on the right track...and It will be all thanks to Jesus Christ's accurate teaching...itself, a science.

NicholasMarks, Religion and Ethics 6 Comments [8/28/2018 1:35:04 PM]
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Submitted By: NearlySane

Quote# 139758

The Voice of Reason:
Mostly, same-sex marriages are a danger only to those who would potentially participate in them, as it normalizes same-sex sexual activity and thereby makes it less likely that those with same-sex sexual attractions will practice abstinence.
As far as danger posed by same-sex marriages to heterosexual people, I really don't see any. Sure there's the contribution to the gradual desensitization of the culture to sexual sin, but I think same-sex marriage has a pretty marginal share of the blame for that. The normalization of pornography, men fathering children and leaving the mothers to fend for themselves, and the casual sex culture in general are far, far more to blame for the moral decay in this area than the minor impact that could be contributed to same-sex marriage.

Fandango:
Why do people such as yourself keep expecting homosexuals to be heterosexuals? They can’t.

The Voice of Reason:
I don't, nor did I claim to. Sexual attraction is not a decision, it's something one is born with. How a person acts, or refrains from acting, on that attraction is very much a choice.

Fandango:
Are you telling a homosexual he or she should live a life free of sexual gratification, then?

The Voice of Reason:
Yes.

Fandango:
Why? Why should they be denied the rich experience of falling in love the rest of us enjoy?

The Voice of Reason:
They are being denied nothing, I oppose all attempts by governments to enforce any sexual norms. But when it comes to morality, the only morally permissible form of sexual activity is within the bonds of a heterosexual marriage. All others, be they homosexuals or unmarried heterosexuals, are called to abstinence.

The Voice of Reason, Disqus - Philosophy 8 Comments [8/28/2018 12:30:58 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta