Quote# 109919

[Fundies have been talking about the Charlie Charlie game]

I was telling a coworker the other day about this very issue. As I was explaining to her how the challenge worked , she looked at me and said "well did they summon anything ?" Then she goes on to answer herself, "Of course not". You see many of these kids have parents who don't believe in demons who think on an empirical level that this is all hysteria and nonsense. I tried to tell her that this was real but I could tell she was skeptical. So the devil wins twice.... That is truly frightening. We have lots to pray for in this day and time.

sbtgf, Rapture Ready 14 Comments [6/22/2015 6:07:43 PM]
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Submitted By: documentingtehcrazy

Quote# 8494

I think Santa is everything that is wrong with Christmas...it is yet another way parents choose to control their children using threats instead of teaching them right from wrong...you know, "nice boys and girls get the toys they want because Santa is watching"...

More than laughs..., Myspace 17 Comments [12/5/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 134740

One. Christian numbers are not dropping. They are increasing by the day. In China it is something like 10,000 day. In India it is thousands. In the Middle East muslims are converting to christianity in droves because Jesus is appearing to them in dreams and visions.

I know that you want their numbers to be dropping but it ain't the case. Even in America, over the last fifty years the numbers have remained constant.

I don't know what religion does as I am not involved in it. My faith is based on a relationship with a person so I don't need religion.
Sorry to say for you, I don't have an ego as I am dead and my life is hid with Christ in God.

Pascal's wager is only a poor argument if you are on the wrong end of it which atheists are. If it is true and it is, then you are a complete fool to say it is a poor argument.

But then atheist specialise in denial to avoid the truth.

TruthvLies, Christian News Network 16 Comments [12/1/2017 3:35:37 PM]
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Quote# 134685

Hello Readers of Medusa Magazine. My name is {redacted} and I own ageofshitlords.com. Before I begin, I just want to state that yes, this website is satire. It has always been and will always be satire…. but I don’t blame anyone for thinking otherwise. Myself and the fellow Shitposters who operated and published articles on this website while it lasted pride ourselves on writing fairly believable satire with just enough retardation to keep our readers in constant doubt. This has been fun, but all good things have to come to an end. I am shutting down this website because recent events have proven to us that it is no longer possible to satirize the Feminist left.

To prove that this was a hoax all along, a couple months ago when I first got the idea for this website, I posted about it on my Facebook page.

The post is still visible on Facebook today:

Naturally, we waited a couple weeks before putting our plans into action, but the motive remained the same; to create a website to satirize the far left and the so-called “Social Justice Warriors” who infect it. Since starting the blog, our articles have been featured on several media publications like Info-wars, The Federalist, The Gateway Pundit, and several other websites that fell for our prank, including one Russian website that covered our article calling for “White abortions“, as proof of how politically correct the west has become.

But while everyone else was falling for our satirical articles, others weren’t buying it. Some users of Reddit’s r/kotakuinaction subreddit took it upon themselves to investigate and prove that the website was indeed owned by the same people operating Age Of Shitlords. Also, a special hat-tip to the nosy writer of the blog why evolution is true, who kept pestering and gathering information to prove that this site was indeed a parody. But then again, they were only able to come to that conclusion due to my own personal clumsiness.

As a general principle and for security reasons, I always use a fake name and identity when buying a domain name online. I just so happened to use the same fake name to buy medusamagazine.com that I had used to buy ageofshitlords.com a year ago. Ba Dum Tss. The rest of the deduction was easy from there. A few people made the connection between Age Of Shitlords and Medusa magazine and concluded that the later was probably just the owner of Age Of Shitlords taking a piss. In my defense, I didn’t bother hiding the ageofshitlords-medusamagazine connection because I didn’t expect the website to go viral so fast and as much as it did.

But back to to the original topic, we are shutting down our rather hilarious project because we can no longer compete with our competition. We have come to realize that our competition is not other satirical websites, but rather the people we are trying to satirize. About a week ago, after a short hiatus from the website and in light of the recent sexual assault allegations currently afflicting Hollywood, we put out another article titled “Why we should believe women who accuse right wingers of rape more than those who accuse liberals”. The article is a total caricature intended to be as ridiculous as possible, basically arguing that because liberals are good people, we should forgive them when they rape women. We thought no one in the world could possibly hold views as ridiculous as that, so we wrote it as satire and published it.

So imagine our surprise when an actual Feminist and self-proclaimed expert on “rape culture” wrote an article for The Washington Post no less, using the same rational and reasoning as our satirical article that was written just a few days before:

And this batshit-insane Feminist isn’t alone in her thinking, others seem to share her views on the topic:


And that is why we are shutting down this website. Because there is no point in operating a caricature website of Feminism anymore when real life Feminists are now more insane than any caricature we could ever dream up. If you enjoyed our content and are sad to see us go, then just go follow any legitimate Feminist blog or any of the many obnoxious Feminists on Twitter. Their content is the same as ours.

Age of Shitlords, Medusa Magazine 21 Comments [11/30/2017 3:48:04 AM]
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Quote# 134689


The ‘Antifa’ dress in black, wear masks and resort to physical violence. They use force to silence those with whom they disagree. They consider anyone to the right of Lenin to be ‘Nazis,’ while they engage in brown shirted, Hitler-like tactics themselves. They are most likely funded by the globalist George Soros. His job is to stir up strife and conflict. He enjoys keeping populaces distracted by means of hate and violence while he and his ilk advance their plans for a one-world government.

Once a haven for free speech, Berkeley has now become a giant safe space where uniform thinking is encouraged. After all, free speech is extremely dangerous. Why? Because it might hurt someone’s feelings! Feelings are now more important than facts and logic on too many college campuses. The Berkeley faculty and campus police seem to favor the Antifa. Instead of headlong debate, heads are getting hit with bike locks—and the Antifa culprits get away with it.

These spoiled brats apparently think they’re leading a cultural Marxist revolution. They had better not escalate the situation further. If there is gun play, a great many conservatives will fight back. I hope that doesn’t happen. We already have a cold war of sorts between the blue and red states. We don’t need an escalation into a hot war.

It’s time for far-left colleges to practice what they’re preaching. Namely, they need to start being more ‘inclusive’ and embrace ‘diversity.’ This means including even (gasp!) white, male conservatives. Welcome all voices to the debate table, not only those who recite the usual politically correct narrative by rote. Give others who aren’t socialists a chance to be heard. Don’t be afraid to engage in rational discourse. It might end up challenging and expanding minds. Isn’t that what college is for?

Ben Garrison, Grrr Graphics 15 Comments [12/1/2017 8:04:11 AM]
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Submitted By: Daspletosaurus

Quote# 54202

Greek mythology was inspired by Satan. Where do you think the faggot Greeks were getting these things? Satan was whispering in their ears.

shaun3701, OkCupid forums 42 Comments [12/14/2008 9:47:21 AM]
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Submitted By: nleseul

Quote# 100274

[On a negative review of the film "God's Not Dead"]

Another angry Atheist spitting and crying with a snot nosed reply because him and his ignorant friends have been exposed for being the ass holes everyone is sick of. This review is undeserving of even one star. It focuses on his own faithlessness and anger because he’s jealous of the real God and wants to cry about Christians actually fighting the RELIGION of atheism. Constantly forcing their faith of a godless universe with a failed hypothesis of the religion of evolution he picks on a movie that exposes such stupidity. I am sorry I wasted my time listening to this idiot spit out his ignorance out of personal distaste rather than give a fair review. Just another idiot trying to pretend to have a brain. I can just hear the scarecrow now “If only I had a brain”. Do us all a favor and give up on reviews as your opinion is about as worthy as a pile of dog refuse.

Keith Eric Iholts II, Variety 29 Comments [3/30/2014 4:41:10 AM]
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Quote# 134599

If we came from apes, why are there still apes around? You don't see any short necked giraffes do you??

dwan robinson, Youtube 22 Comments [11/27/2017 3:12:54 PM]
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Submitted By: FSM

Quote# 41588

It takes vision to see what is in front of your eyes.

"Slovenly" "Drab" Unkempt" "Slatternly" "Blowzy" --many adjectives describe most women who wear jeans.

Since I noticed this trend, I am appalled by its pervasiveness. At least half of the women I see are wearing jeans.

Occasionally they are with husbands also clad in blue denim, emphasizing the unisex character of this proletarian garb. Occasionally there is an eldest daughter also wearing blue jeans, already promised to the cult of androgyny.

But usually these women are alone and don't look happy. Often they look angry or lost. Usually they are talking on a cell phone or listening to their ipod.

Men, if you're tempted by such a woman, her jeans are a signal that you may have to deal with "GID" --"gender identity disorder." Her jeans are saying: "I don't want to be a woman. I don't want to look good for men. I fear and distrust men. I want male prerogatives. I want to look like a man. I want to be a man."

Feminism which espoused "women's rights" actually has driven femininity underground, torn the sexes asunder, and stripped woman of recognition for being wives and mothers, roles essential to their own fulfillment, to men, and to children and society.

Henry Makow, Henry Makow /Save The Males 107 Comments [6/25/2008 12:09:20 AM]
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Submitted By: Charlie

Quote# 99276

Christian rapper Bizzle has written an anti-gay version of Macklemore's "Same Love" rapped over the song's instrumental.

On the track, Bizzle slams comparisons of the gay civil rights movement to the African-American civil rights movement (my transcripts):

You rather fight God than fight sin / The Bible is alright until it calls what you like sin / And I feel so disrespected that you were so desperate / You would compare your sexual habits to my skin / Calling it 'the new black?' Tell me, where they do that? / They hung us like tree ornaments, where were you at? / They burned us for entertainment, you go through that?" / Moms raped in front of their kids while they shoot dad / Ever been murdered just for trying to learn how to read, bro? / Show of hands? I didn't think so / So quit comparing the two it ain't the same fight / You can play straight. We can never play white.

Using black people as pawns for your agenda / These sell-out rappers that do whatever you tell em.

Bizzle also says that being gay is a choice:

"Man I ain't choose this!" You think you chose that?

"Well I was born this?" Well prove me you were born that.

Gays are like pedophiles:

You were never oppressed. The devil was a liar / The only thing oppressed was your sexual desire / Keeping your desires oppressed is so lame to you / But when you get married that's what you expect your mate to do / It angers you if I compare you to a pedophile / Because he's sick, right, and you're better, how?

Gays should not have marriage because they already have domestic partnerships and God says marriage is between a man and a woman:

But you were never a girl. He was once nine so at one time in his life it was just fine. / What makes your laws right? / I'm not buying it so put it in the same trash can you put that Bible in. / See how that cycle is? / Nobody wants to repent of their evil so we all try justifying it. / And you say it's about rights but you lying though - domestic partnerships gave you rights a long time ago. / God created marriage when he did he defined it though so why is it that you want what he created but denying no. / It's not wicked enough switching the definition you want it done by a Christian in a church he worships in?

And gays should not use the rainbow as a Gay Pride symbol because it belongs to Christians:

And that rainbow you using is a gay pride symbol? It represents a covenant with God if you didn't know. Check Genesis 9:13 for the info. Homie, the poor spiritual, you don't know what you in for. I ain't saying your sins worse, but it is sin, though.

Of course, Bizzle says he's not a hater even though he justifies calling gay a "defect" in the lyrics as well:

It's funny how the media portays things / They really pushing hard for this gay thing / And it's so wicked how they manipulate things / Can't even disagree without them making it a hate thing /

Bizzle, Towleroad 50 Comments [2/10/2014 4:17:03 AM]
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Submitted By: Kevin Klawitter

Quote# 134739

May the world stand up to Islam and defeat it so it no longer exists anywhere in the world. The more Islam intimidates the more they gain and society will loose its existence, this is why humanity must make a stand before its too late.

Troybeam, Bare Naked Islam 3 Comments [12/1/2017 3:35:32 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 31423

[Do you think that all beliefs are worthy of respect? Surely not. I don't think that beliefs based on ignorance and superstition deserve respect, especially when they are as intolerant (not to mention hopelessly contradictory) as the bible (reference: read the first post in this thread).]

The Bible does not contradict itself. I explained the first post in my last post. The Bible DOES make sense if you read it page by page instead of quote by quote. Have you read the Bible completely, Moonbeam? If not, then how can you criticize it?

Beanhole, Dreamviews Forums 18 Comments [11/21/2007 8:19:48 PM]
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Quote# 54658

The idea of people and trees being related is stupid because there is no scientific, empirical evidence that supports it. Are there fossils that bear aspects of human beings and non-living things, like rocks and trees? It's bad enough to say that humans evolved from other living creatures, but to say that living creatures and inanimate objects evolved from the same unicellular organism....? True evidence, please?

ericloza, Atheist Central (Ray Comfort's blog) 40 Comments [12/21/2008 9:32:04 PM]
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Quote# 134507

The earth is flat.....I don't want it to be flat I want us to go to the stars but that's a lie truth hurts some times. I don't want to believe the earths flat...but the evidence and indeed the bible says otherwise.

Chris Testerman, Youtube 11 Comments [11/25/2017 2:14:40 AM]
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Quote# 110303

The ruling today [on same-sex marriage] will open the floodgates of persecution of Christians in America. There is an axiom that whatever the government taxes it controls. Today's ruling clears the way for the government to remove tax exempt status from churches refusing to knuckle under to the gay agenda. Not only may churches lose tax exempt status, but the coercive power of a godless government can fine and imprison pastors declining to perform gay weddings. Adhering to Biblical truths can now be labeled hate crimes leading to job loss, fines and imprisonment.

Satan is winning battle after battle in our increasingly wretched culture. A sure sign that we are now circling the drain and our redemption via the rapture is very near. [...] Today's decision greases the skids for wholesale persecution of Christians at the hands of godless secular progressives now running our nation. Believers will witness a dizzying onslaught of perverse cultural events that will so transform our beloved America that we will no longer recognize it. It is like a slow motion train wreck watching the implosion of our society. I hit my knees nightly to beg Jesus to come quickly and take us out of here.

Dean T. Olson, Rapture Forums 28 Comments [6/30/2015 3:19:41 AM]
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Quote# 134491

For your political talks over the Thanksgiving table remember:

Socialism killed 100 million people in last 100 years
Capitalism is the cure to poverty
America is the greatest country ever
Taxation is theft
There are only 2 genders
Trump is everyone's President

Charlie Kirk, Twitter 28 Comments [11/24/2017 3:30:17 PM]
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Submitted By: Daspletosaurus

Quote# 134728

(commenting on story "Jim Nabors dead; star best known as Gomer Pyle was 87")

Doug Bristow:
I thought very highly of Jim Nabors but I take issue with this article that refers to his "husband". Nabors did not have a husband, he had a boyfriend. I take issue with this because it is just more of the left's softening and changing morality through acceptance of it and changing the true meaning of words to describe it.

Lady Checkmate:
Agreed. I'll correct that now

Doug Bristow:
It is not your fault it is the way it was released by Fox News.

Lady Checkmate:
Yep, and it slipped by me, but thankfully you caught it.

Doug Bristow, Disqus - News Network 16 Comments [12/1/2017 11:11:40 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 134723

On Sunday, I heard on my Catholic radio station(it's local and mostly has EWTN programs), a commentator who was in shock that Halloween had passed Christmas in popularity. Not only was he in shock, but he failed to see both the reasons and the best response that Christians in general could have.

I'm going to start with looking at the reasons. First, more and more people are nones. That is not to say atheists, but rather that they posses no faith. There's also been a rise in wiccan and other pagan belief systems, including the hedonist form of Satanism(I'll not discuss the diabolic version).

How many years have teachers and parents been telling children, at least in the United States of America, "You can be anything when you grow up."? And slowly, when they reach adulthood(not maturity), it is uncovered for the lie it is. Still, the lie is attractive, and also attractive is the occasion of celebration.

But the celebration of religious holy days and festivals is largely a foreign concept, especially when one looks at the family problems of the day. When kids start seeing all the problems of Christmas and Thanksgiving in coordination at both mom and dad's houses, and want stability instead, the concept is undermined. Yes, further than the materialistic nature Christmas has taken on more and more.

Since family has been destroyed as a concept for many, there's the attractiveness of celebration with friends. And while holy days are indeed appropriate to share in feasting, they've already been poisoned in many minds and hearts. And Halloween in the minds of the nones has nothing to do with faith, after all, it's been associated with witches and horror for ages in pop culture.

Enough discussion of the causes. Let's look at what the response should have been, and can still become.

First, We should start calling the day by it's proper name: All Hallow's Eve. Names are words of spiritual power, or Christ would not have asked the names of the demons possessing people. Also, note Adam's first job: naming everything. When you name something, and it responds, you have gained some control over it. Some may call this magic, but music and art have similar effects on the soul, that are ultimately inexplicable by "science".

The second part has some progress made already, albeit in a less widespread form than we need. Presentation of heroes of faith. I put it that way, for two reasons. The first being that Protestants don't recognize saints as such, and the second being that there are many heroes of faith not thus honored in Catholic or Orthodox traditions.

We are seeing well written novels come out that respect faith, and "Christian" movies are starting to get the need for less insular audiences as well. Who's missing? The commentators and populizers. But I don't think it's for the same reasons quite as conservatives. Some may be due to ignorance, some due to a rejection of portrayal of sin, which is lying to ourselves. We are fallen, and have redemption only as a gift.

And I have seen many push the idea of reading only old books, and the superiority of old art, etc. But the problem there is, if they won't help with supporting the new works, the restoration they desire will never happen; art needs funding. You want to replace modern garbage with real art? Put up or shut up. Enough with the navel gazing superiority.

When you play Social Justice, the world loses.

Alfred Genesson, The Injustice Gamer 7 Comments [12/1/2017 8:04:59 AM]
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Quote# 134702

[From "Alt-South Lexicon"]

American/Federal Empire

Refers to the United States since forcibly annexing the Confederate States in 1860-64. Hated in the South for sending Southerners to fight in futile wars for interests not their own. More concerned with pushing a globalist agenda to benefit the oligarchy than acting in the interests of its native population. Synonyms: The Great Satan, Zog.


“Small-souled creatures that look barely human, believe strongly in having modeled “rational” takes, and are defined completely by their choices as an alpha-consumer. (Courtesy~Borzoi Boskovitch)


A person who holds the beliefs of their particular church or denomination to be sacrosanct. They will often reject teachings of the Bible that don’t align properly with their church’s ideas concerning modern societal issues.


A person who purports to be a Confederate, but is in actuality reconstructed. These people are easily identified by excessive posting of the battle flag in Facebook groups and a need to signal to everyone that they are not racist. They can often be observed to condemn the racist viewpoints of their confederate ancestors. Favorite phrase: “Heritage, not hate.”


A negro. Referred to as such because they dindu nuffin. All criminal and degenerate actions they take can be explained away because of the systematic oppression inflicted upon them by the evil white man.


Also called Southerners (esp. when affixed with “unreconstructed”), Southern people, Dixians, Dixie people, Dixie nation, Confederates. A European-derived, Christian nation and ethnic group native to Dixie, biologically descended primarily from the British and Scots-Irish peoples who settled the region during the Colonial Period and Plantation Era, who remain distinct from other branches of the British diaspora and without significant admixture from African or Amerindian races. Ethnic Dixians speak their own widely recognized dialect of the English language and retain other cultural distinctions apart from the North Midlands and East Anglia derived cultures of North America.


A modern male with a low testosterone level who acts with beta tendicies. These “men” include but are not limited to male feminists, soyboys, and beta orbiters.


A term which refers to people or things that were originally Southern in nature but have fallen prey to the policies imposed by the federal government and progressive culture post Civil War. A physical manifestation of this is the removal of confederate monuments and memorials to appease minority groups and progressives. A cultural manifestation of this is people, who are Southern by heritage, apologizing for the racism of their ancestors.


A term which refers to people or things that have not capitulated to being reconstructed. Southerners who are unreconstructed eschew modern societal norms and mores in favor of a more traditional culture from the antebellum South.


An urbanite who is also a NEET. A NEET is a low agency individual who usually still lives with their parents and whose sole ambitions are obtaining food and playing video games. A genetic dead end, as they will likely never produce offspring.


A person residing in an urban area. These people usually have beliefs modeled after the progressive trends of modernity and are deeply afflicted with the sickness that is Cultural Marxism. They tend to view Southerners as a recalcitrant people whom they must force to do what they perceive to be the right thing.

Identity Dixie, Identity Dixie 11 Comments [11/30/2017 10:45:15 PM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 134710

[ Keep in mind this guy works as a as a youth group leader with small children and has even admitted to being sexually attracted to the children in his care

you could choose not to be a pedophile would you?

No. Being a paedophile is not a problem for me, it’s just an unchosen part of my identity. It’s not something I feel I need to get rid of. It doesn’t hurt me or anyone else, the only real negatives are caused by society, not by paedophilia itself.It’s something that brings me a certain amount of joy too, seeing a beautiful boy makes me happy, I wouldn’t want to lose that joy. It’s one of the only consistent sources of joy in my life.
If there was a way for me to be attracted to adults as well I might consider it, but I wouldn’t choose to stop being a paedophile.

dean-the-map, tumblr 2 Comments [11/30/2017 10:59:35 PM]
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Quote# 134716

It doesn't matter how many medical professionals claim sex with children to be harmful. No matter how many people say something is true, if evidence and reason prove them to be wrong, then they are wrong. There is no evidence and reason to back up the claim that sexual activity with children causes emotional distress irrespective of cultural conditioning.You show me such evidence, and I'll change my beliefs. Can you even say what evidence would change your beliefs? If it were proven that the violence you are a supporter of is the reason why children experience trauma from harmless sexual activity and that sex acts themselves do not inherently cause any degree of emotional distress whatsoever by way of showing that when punishments are not present there is no psychological harm but that when punishments are present there is psychological harm, would you change your beliefs? If it were really true that you cared that children were harmed, you would not support punishments for having sex with children if it were proven that punishments were the only thing causing them harm.

Are you aware that many religions believe choosing the wrong faith can have permanently negative consequences lasting all of eternity? Can a child make an informed decision about that? In order to justify the claim that engaging in sexual activity requires informed consent and that children can't engage in sexual activity because of their inability to provide informed consent, it would need to be true that there is some feature to sexual activity that makes it importantly different from all the other things kids are brought to be involved in such that informed consent is a relevant requirement. There is no scientific investigation that can be performed to confirm or falsify the claim that sexual activity requires informed consent because the belief is a moral one; it's not a fact about the world that can be checked to see if it is true. Moral beliefs require consistency to be able to justify their application. You cannot apply a moral belief in one case and not in another for no reason. If children shouldn't be allowed to engage in sexual activity because they can't give informed consent, then explain what makes it different from all the other things they do for which you believe informed consent isn't needed. Don't just say it's different; explain yourself.

Are you aware there is a power imbalance in literally every conceivable way between children and adults, and yet that doesn't make all the other things adults do with children wrong? In order to argue that a power imbalance makes sexual activity with children wrong, it would need to be explained what makes sexual activity different from all the other things children are brought to be involved in.

Because all people, without exception, can recall being forced into doing various things as children against their will and not being traumatized from it, it is impossible to make the argument that I am wrong to claim that unless a child is forced into something to the point of unbearable anguish, they aren't traumatized for it. You don't need to be a psychologist in order to explain human psychology, and you especially don't need to be a psychologist in order to make this claim.
Approaching someone while armed with the intent to forcibly confine that person into a prison cell and shoot and kill them if they fight back absolutely is violence. You are a supporter of that for pedophile sexual activity. Sexual activity with minors is not violent. In fact it's undeniably beneficial to them. You are a supporter of violence for non-violent activities.
Don't unjustifiably punish kids and pedophiles, dude.

AetherApologist, reddit 6 Comments [11/30/2017 11:03:25 PM]
Fundie Index: 2

Quote# 134717

Almost all people can recall exploring themselves sexually in private in their youth and not being harmed by it. It's not sensible to believe that such activities would suddenly and inexplicably become distressing somehow just because another person who happens to have been alive for more years than they becomes involved. It isn't reasonable to believe it's extremely likely sexual activity would cause harm. There is a power imbalance between children and adults in literally every possible way and yet children aren't harmed by all the other normal activities they do with their parents and caretakers.

What is undeniable about sexual activity is how enormously beneficial it is. It builds some of the strongest interpersonal bonds people are capable of making. For humans, making bonds with others is arguably the most important thing a person can do. Sexual activity is also beneficial because it's immensely pleasurable. And because being in a sexual relationship is one of the most universal of human experiences, familiarity of it from an early age with responsible and loving caretakers would better prepare them for the future and it would also cure much of the immaturity and unsafe behaviors that plague so many people's sex lives. The secrecy and embarrassment which surrounds so many people's sex lives is counterproductive to addressing public health concerns like unwanted pregnancies and STD's and sexual bullies and violent rapists. Raising children into a sexual culture that treats sex as the normal activity that it is and not with shame and embarrassment would enrich lives and allow for a more effective way of combating sex related public health concerns. As with all things that people do which benefits them, learning about it from as early an age as possible better prepares them for navigating our world. Laughing, walking, talking, reading, writing, mathematics...

All are good to do as soon as one is able, and sexual feelings and activities, something humans can experience from even before birth, are no different. If it was any other activity we were talking about that built powerful social bonds and was immensely pleasurable and better prepared children for the future and helped them to live safer, happier lives, it would be considered indispensable by parents and the community.

AetherApologist, reddit 4 Comments [11/30/2017 11:03:28 PM]
Fundie Index: 2

Quote# 134721

Is sex with underage girls so bad?
Before we start, I don't mean 8,9,10 or anything younger than that. That is disgusting and wrong.
When I say underage, I mean 14, 15, 16, 17.
I mean, the way I see it, these girls are old enough to understand sex and the consequences. They're old enough to get behind the wheel of a car, why aren't they old enough to decide who they want to have sex with?
Lets take a COMPLETELY hypothetical situation:
I'm a 20 year old dude. I got to college, I got a job, a car, I might live with my mom or a friend, or I got my own 1 room shack or whatever. Lets just say I make friends with a 16 year old girl. Its innocent enough at first, but we one night shit gets steamy and we wind up makin' whoopy, and its completely mutual on both sides. Now, society and law would call me a sick perv, throw me in the slammer, and then make me stick a sign outside my house.
So my question is: Is this really such a horrible offense?

Alright. So a lot of people have been bringing up some cases like "young girls are immature and can't relate to older men, older men just want easy sex, etc etc." And while yeah, thats the case sometimes, its not ALWAYS the case and it shouldn't used as a reason to why two people can't date just cause they got a little age gap.
I had a friend who's parents had a BIG age gap between them. The mom was like in her late 40s, early 50s and the dad was around his mid 30s. Is the dad dating the mom just cause he's into older chicks? Did the mom just want some easy sex? No, it was nothing like that. It was two people who just GENUINELY had an attraction towards each other.
My aunt and uncle, same story, they got about an 8-11 year gap between them. Started dated when my uncle was like 20 something and my aunt was still in high school, like 15-16. Now they're married with children, with a huge house, and 3 cars. Think my uncle just wanted some easy poontang? Nope, nothing like that. Just a genuine attraction.
Age COULD be used as a GENERAL indication of maturity, but its mostly the person themselves that should be judged on their maturity, because theres too much of a variation. I know older chicks that still act like they're in middle school, and on the flip side they're plenty of young girls that KNOW THEIR SHIT.

toadthroat, pso-world 7 Comments [11/30/2017 11:03:40 PM]
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. I'm in my late 30s and if saying I'd fuck a hot willing 17 year-old makes me a pervert in someone's eyes then that's their damage, not mine.

DrDeth, The straight dope 3 Comments [11/30/2017 11:03:37 PM]
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You ask some good questions, and you will receive Godly-inspired answers relative to what is contained within our Christian Bible. Now remember that the Christian goes by the Bible, and not by some "traditional" presuppositions about the Bible when examining the directives within.

One of the principles by which we examine the Bible is what the esteemed Pastor JJ Hunter called "what came first". In this regard where we have something that appears contrarian, we look towards the directive that came later, and not at the previous instances which we only use for historical reference. Take for example the Jew's laws for kosher food. Since these were cancelled out later, we no longer need to follow them, in the name of Jesus. Relative to the verses you cite above, as found with Col., Matt., Titus and Romans, we likewise use the directives from the later books of Bible, e.g. Timothy. Bottom line is that some things may have been permitted by Jesus at some point, but then an adjustment was made, and from then on, we're just to follow the standing directive, and not the one that was called off.

Also note that in 1 Cor. 11 Jesus (via Paul) didn't tell us that women are to be prophesying within churches! Relative to prayer, the female may indeed pray in church--but silently!

You say, "The issue was of dominating or leading men." This is a common legend that came from Cathlics. Nowhere in the Bible does it state that this was an issue. Do correct me if I'm wrong. There are those that like to make it out to be a rebuke to some female rebellion at Corinth, but there's no indication that such ever happened. Not within our Christian Bible. Rather, Jesus (again via Paul) tells the female to learn in silence, with subjection, to not even ask a question at the church, and overall to be modest, "with shamefacedness and sobriety". Why? The reason given is not that of womanly rebellion, but of her place. To wit: "For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." 1 Tim 13-14

Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D., Christian News Network 7 Comments [11/30/2017 10:42:38 PM]
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