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Quote# 142076

MAS apologises over inflight magazine's 'pork image'

Malaysia Airlines (MAS) has apologised over the alleged publication of a pork cuisine in its January edition of its inflight magazine Going Places.

"In the advertisement... the January edition of Going Places published restaurants that provide variety of foods which are part of the menu," the national carrier said in a statement.

"The images featured slices of Wagyu beef and cuttlefish. Just like other lifestyle magazines, the review of the restaurant was meant to promote the eateries for passengers all over the world," MAS was quoted by Sinar Harian as saying.
It then apologised and said it has no intention to offend any party.

MAS' statement came after several NGOs slammed the national airline for being insensitive by publishing the pork cuisine.

Yesterday, Abd Aziz Abdul Rahman, former MAS managing director, was reported as saying such a move was inappropriate as MAS carried the national image.

Abd Aziz Abdul Rahman and some Malaysian NGOs, Malaysiakini 14 Comments [1/21/2019 5:12:36 AM]
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Submitted By: Bedhead

Quote# 58258

Mutations do not happen so evolution does not happen. The variation of species is from the shuffled preexisting information of preexisting designs. No Mutation means no evolution.

seekmosttoprophesy, YouTube 34 Comments [2/8/2009 4:15:30 PM]
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Submitted By: Orlor

Quote# 58379

Other faiths are unworthy and unrighteous. Christianity is the only true faith. Until a few years ago homosexuality was against the law and now their beliefs are being forced down our throats. Forty years ago abortion was against the law and not that is being forced down out throats. I am a bit militant so if you want to shut me up about the truth and the only truth religion wise is Christianity, then just try to shut me up or make laws against my faith and you will see just how much this Christian is capable of defending himself. I am a white, blond haired, blue eyed, redneck, gun toting Christian and my closest friend on theis site is a black man, so when you want to stereotype someone, get your head out of you rump.

RobinD69, city-data.com 49 Comments [2/8/2009 4:30:09 PM]
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Quote# 142058

Anyone pastors, cake makers, etc who speaks the truth of God's word will be called bigots and haters. We are to hate the sin, but not the sinner. If you don't agree with them, they come against you to lose your job. This world hates us because we are in the world, but not of it. There are 2 fathers our heavenly father, and Satan the evil one!

lightofmylife, Rapture Forums 12 Comments [1/20/2019 11:05:18 AM]
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Quote# 142061

First, you don’t know what real racism is. You’re a brainwashed little punk with no life experience. Second, you are a minor and you have NO rights regardless of what liberals tell you. You have rights when you turn 18. Third, if i was your parent i’d tan your hide if you disobeyed me.

Jay Jake, Quora 17 Comments [1/20/2019 11:10:08 AM]
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Quote# 142070

Same-sex marriage should not be a thing. Marriage is a constitution that should be exclusive to healthy non-life threatening heterosexual non-pedophile relationships. To a certain point, marriage is about procreation and child-rearing, but it does not necessarily have to be about procreation and child-rearing. Marriage is about the recognition or consecration of a healthy romantic relationship, or it at least it should be. Therefore, homosexual couples should not have the right to be recognized or consecrated through marriage.

Homosexual couples do not love each other, and are sick unions. Their relationship is a behavior deviant of the laws of nature, and of God. They are sick relationships whose 'love' is very alike a mental-disease, except it is actually an evil choice or result of wicked confusion. Governments should not recognize through marriage sick deviant relationships as if they were normal relationships, or even a form of love. The state must not embrace evil or immorality, but discourage it. By recognizing sick unions though same-sex marriage, the government is encouraging immorality.

Like Confucius said "Societies will achieve social and civil harmony only when individuals achieve moral harmony within themselves." Hence, encouragement of immorality and sickness will do naught but harm society, and threaten the harmony tying everything together. Same-sex marriage is alike allowing psychopaths to become doctors, or allowing a man to marry his own mother. It is not the recognition or consecration of a normal loving union, but the recognition or consecration of sickness as normality, and evil as good.

Homosexuality is a condition which is known to be exceedingly harmful, or at least this is what facts have shown. Studies have proven homosexuality to be a behavior which reduces the lifespan by 20 years precious years. This reduction in the lifespan of gays is not due to stigmatization since the studies were done in countries where opposition to homosexuality was basically none. Religious and ethnic groups which suffer from genuine discrimination ( I'm not talking about the ones who suffer from discrimination so severe so as to be killed due to what their country considers a crime, but about the ones who get beaten or prevented from getting good jobs due to what their country considers a crime) in other countries do not suffer from this appalling state.

Studies has also proven that homosexuality is a condition which increases risk of many deadly cancers, breast cancer among them. Some say this condition is because of gay's tendency towards unhealthy society-disapproved behaviors or states (smoking, drinking alcohol,...). But in all of the studies which revealed this execrable fact, heterosexuals engaged more often in unhealthy society-disapproved behaviors and suffered more of society disapproved conditions than did gays, leaving no other factor to be held accountable for gay's increased risk of cancer other than homosexuality.

There are plenty of other sicknesses caused by specious homosexuality, but due to their sheer number only this number shall be covered. Thus, the government or any other organization should not consecrate homosexuality through same-sex marriage, for it is a dangerous condition that should be discouraged not encouraged or considered equal to heterosexuality.

Homosexuality is no different from incest, both being sins against God, and medically unhealthy (homosexuality is also similar to zoophilia and other sick romances, but since most people are tremendously ignorant as to why they are similar; they shall not be discussed here for the sake of brevity). The consecration and embracement of one sick romance through the ceremony of marriage means that the other sick romance has an equivalent right to be consecrated and embraced through marriage.

Now, the fact that sick relationships should not be married does not mean that infertile couples should be prevented from marrying. Though infertile couples suffer from the sickness of barrenness, their sickness is not detrimental to the nature of the relationship or should it be an obstacle to marriage. Regardless of their inability to reproduce, their relationship is normal, not a relationship deviant to the laws of nature (opposites attract) or to the laws of God. The sexual acts committed by an infertile heterosexual couple pose no threat to their lives, and in no way are a cause of sickness. They are fully capacitated for child-rearing, and can efficiently bring up kids. Therefore, infertile couples have a complete right to be married, for they fulfill the essential requirements of marriage, and have the capability to satisfy all the optional wants of wedlock. They have the right to be married for their love is love, not sickness.

Marriage equality is a good thing, but this should not include equality among completely unequal relationships. Marriage equality should never include sick harmful relationships; marriage equality should only be for healthy heterosexual relationships. A fish should not have be treated like a cow. Unfortunately, marriage is not anymore what it actually is, the consecration of heterosexual relationships. As people became more detached from reality, and intertwined with immorality; the meaning of marriage and love has been lost. This ignorance has led many to belief in the myth that homosexuals couples can raise kids as efficiently as straight couples even though many recent and non-recent studies has said otherwise. Some in their ignorance has argued that the non-recent studies are wrong for they do not cover the well being of children raised in same-sex married couples. But, this train of thought ignores the results of recent studies which has covered random large samples of children raised in same-sex married relationships. One of these studies being the study done by Mr. Sullins (2015).

In their dark ignorance many have come to compare the performance of same-sex couples in the process of child rearing to that of single parents, even though children in same-sex couples fare worse. Homosexuality is not an inborn condition, and it is harmful. Thus, it is not a cause for special rights.

natsumihanaki20, DeviantART 12 Comments [1/21/2019 5:11:21 AM]
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Quote# 142064

And then they came for man earrings

For many Chinese people, man earrings are a mainstream fashion, no longer a novel object or a taboo. Earrings, after all, are just accessories that have no gender. But ultra-conservatives at the State Administration of Press, Publication, Radio, Film, and Television of the People’s Republic of China (SAPPRFT), China’s top media regulator, certainly don’t see it this way.

Regarding itself as a defender of the core values of the Party and China’s traditional culture, where toxic masculinity and gendered norms ultimately rule, SAPPRFT appeared to take issue with man earrings recently as some people noticed that the earlobes of some male celebrities are blurred on television.

It seems that a male earring ban has been implemented. Chances are TV stations were informed with such short notice that they did not have time to ask those men to take off their earrings when filming. Blurring out their ears, which seems extremely weird, as this video-editing technique is usually used for censoring private parts like genitals, was the only option left for TV producers to avoid breaking the new rules.

Given SAPPRFT’s past history of introducing arbitrary policies without giving any explanation, it’s highly unlikely that it will reveal the real intentions behind the man earring ban. Theories trying to decipher the authorities’ motives abound on the Chinese internet. Some people speculate that SAPPRFT considers man earrings an affront to national masculinity, which stands at the core of the regressive gender culture in China, where men are expected to manifest manhood in every aspect of their lives, including how they dress themselves. Others think the root of the problem is SAPPRFT’s antiquated taste in men’s fashion.

Unknown Chinese regulators, SupChina 6 Comments [1/20/2019 11:12:39 AM]
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Quote# 58426

[Some people wrote in to About.com Cats to say they object to spaying/neutering on religious grounds!]

Carlie:
Having your animals fixed is morally wrong. Playing God is not our place. If you really love your pets, say NAY to Spay!

C. Blumpkein:
In response to June's comment, "Could someone please tell me which religious text or religious leader explicitly commands that we do not spay & neuter our pets? Seriously. I have never heard of this before."

Does "Thou Shall Not Kill" ring a bell?

By fixing animals and altering God’s divine plan, we are 1) Playing God and 2) Killing potential life.

It's very clear to most.

Carlie & C. Blumpkein, About.com Cats site 44 Comments [2/8/2009 4:28:33 PM]
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Submitted By: GreenEyedLilo

Quote# 142072

Australian politician Mark Latham pledges to gut transgender rights

Australian One Nation politician Mark Latham has unveiled a series of new anti-transgender policy pledges.

Latham was once the leader of Australia’s centre-left Labor Party, but is now a member of the nationalist One Nation party, which he leads in New South Wales.
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Ahead of state elections in March, Latham has focused on transgender children, pledging to support a ban on them transitioning at school without permission from a doctor.

Mark Latham attacks ‘attention-seeking’ transgender children

In a January 20 policy announcement, Latham claimed: “One of the problems with gender fluidity in schools is that students can participate in it simply by ‘identifying’ as transgender.

“This leaves the system open to abuse, with some students milking transgender identification for special treatment or attention-seeking reasons.”

The politician added: “This problem is increasingly common in NSW high schools, urged on by Left-wing political activists.

“Schools made a big mistake when they stopped being places of learning and ventured into the world of mental health assessment and radical gender theory.”

He continued: “One Nation supports teachers who want a stable, productive learning environment in their school, avoiding the Mad Hatter situation and the powerlessness of staff.”

“Any student wanting to change their gender should have to present specialist medical advice and support to the school.

“This takes the matter out of the hands of students and gives teachers the State Government support they need to deal effectively with disingenuous and disruptive behaviour concerning gender.

“It also addresses the real mental health issue: bringing confusion and harm to young people by telling them gender is ‘socially constructed’ and ‘fluid’.”
One Nation’s Mark Latham wants to gut gender recognition laws

Latham also vowed to gut laws that allow transgender people to gain legal recognition in their chosen gender, and end easy legal recognition on all government forms.

Mirroring the policy stance taken by US President Donald Trump, he said: “In reality, with very few exceptions, people are born either male or female. To move away from this biological truth later in life is a serious matter requiring specialist medical evidence. It should not happen because of Leftist ideology, individual whims or novelty factors.

“One Nation does not believe that gender changes should be self-identified on NSW Government forms, permits and licences, such as those processed by Service NSW: agencies including Roads and Maritime Services, Department of Fair Trading and Births Deaths and Marriages.”

He added: “One Nation supports the introduction of a government rule across-the-board prohibiting individual self-identification.”

The politician claims he would allow some limited forms of gender recognition, provided trans people could provide “specialist medical evidence.”

As the current system of gender recognition requires medical evidence, it is unclear what exactly Latham is proposing.

NSW Labor politician Graham Perrett told the Mail: “He has nothing constructive to say about about Australian society.

“This is simply a shock tactic to extract more votes. I’m one of the parliamentary convenors for LGBTI and we take matters like these very seriously.”

Latham was a strong opponent of same-sex marriage during the country’s 2017 postal vote on the issue, claiming he was worried the law would allow transgender people to get married to people of the opposite sex.

The politician was sacked as a Sky News pundit in 2017 after he refused to apologise for describing a school child as “gay” on-air.

Once a fringe party, One Nation has seen a national growth in support in recent years.

The party’s national leader Pauline Hanson claimed in 2017 that same-sex marriage could lead to people marrying children.

Mark Latham, Pink News 13 Comments [1/21/2019 5:11:52 AM]
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Quote# 142071

There's no such thing as real science.

Science is just a name for a Satanic cult. It's like saying you use the real Catholic.

It's like saying that you use only white witchcraft, and reject the black.

Satanism and science are two sides of the same coin.

Gospel Truth, Twitter 23 Comments [1/21/2019 5:11:46 AM]
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Quote# 58092

Discrimination And Tolerance: We are not tolerant of behaviors that destroy individuals, families, and our culture. Individuals may be free to pursue such behaviors as sodomy, but we will not and cannot tolerate these behaviors. They frequently lead to death. We do not believe it is loving to permit someone to kill themselves by engaging in a self-destructive behavior. We believe in “discrimination” in the good sense: choosing between good and evil, right and wrong, the better and the best. We believe in discrimination in the sense of being discerning between good and bad choices. Popular culture maintains that all forms of discrimination are wrong. This is incorrect. A person with “discriminating taste” is one who uses wisdom in making choices. In short, we believe in intolerance to those things that are evil; and we believe that we should discriminate against those behaviors which are dangerous to individuals and to society.

Traditional Values Coalition, Tradtitional Values Defined 44 Comments [2/8/2009 4:32:01 PM]
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Submitted By: The Lazy One

Quote# 58099

Homosexuals are perverts in the same league as child-molesters, rapist the like. I can't believe my country (our country) gives them a civil rights based on the sleazy life style. God, I pray you don't charge them with this sin, bind the lie of satan from them and save em...Amen

EZLazarus, Rapture Ready 44 Comments [2/8/2009 6:04:04 PM]
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Quote# 142069

on being friends with a pedophile that actively downloads real child porn


Hell, I'll go further than most, and say that I would continue to be friends with him even if he had actually done something provided that all of the following conditions were met: He was caught and convicted, he was punished, he complied with all of the elements of legal supervision (parole, registration as a sex offender, etc.), he admits what he did, he feels bad about it, it happened no more than once, he was under 22 when it happened, it has been at least 10 years since it happened, and all the other conditions of the OP are met.

I believe in judging people as they are now. It would take a lot of convincing for me to believe that all of those conditions were met (and of course things like his age and the length of time are not bright lines), but if he is really as good a friend as described, I think it would be possible.

I will add the following caveats: I have no kids. If I did, I think I'd still be friends under the OP's conditions, but very likely not if he'd actually done anything. I'm sure I'd agonize over it no matter what. And finally, I'm not sure this makes me a better person. My natural tendency is to react to people based on what I actually see, not on what else I know about them. It's easy to make this into a virtue, but it could just as much be moral laziness. Along with this is the fact that I don't tend to form extremely close friendships, so what I'm picturing as a continued friendship may be just an aquaintenceship to someone else.

Oh, and regarding the legal aspect, I voted that he would be convicted and it would stand (assuming he was convicted of obscenity, not child pornography), but actually, I believe that most people in that situation would plead guilty and not appeal it only to get the whole ordeal over with. (A decision they would possibly regret, but nevertheless what they would do. Fighting a legal battle is very expensive and extremely stressful and this story would undoubtedly be in the press a great deal while it was ongoing in court.)

Alan smithee, The straight dope 4 Comments [1/21/2019 5:11:11 AM]
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Quote# 120254

ONE nation will not become a province of the NWO world government. Jesus will heal-rejuvenate the 88 year old ailing king of Thailand. Healing will take place at my home south of Uttaradit. Jesus will make Thailand His "burning bush" [emanating truth and indestructible] nation.

Also soon coming is the Russian led invasion of Israel. Invaders get annihilated.?

John Prewett, Youtube 10 Comments [7/4/2016 4:21:10 AM]
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Submitted By: Take A Shill Pill

Quote# 142067

A reply to TheEyeOfTheLight

I blocked you because you are crazy. In this world there are two type of persons: those whose values are defined by society and do not like to think (you) , and those whose value are defined by reality and like to think (me). You are amongst those whose values is defined by society and do not like to think. I warned you lovingly that what you do is wrong, but you keep on denying reality and God to satisfy your delusions. I can see which kind of person you are, and you are the type with whom talking about reality and showing proof is a waste of time. You are a hypocrite, and delusional. You are the kind who has blindfolded themselves from the truth. You claim to respect my beliefs. Yet, you came here with the purport to change them. You claim to believe in God, and yet in the comment you said that probably God is not true. You claim to be interested in learning, but when confronted with evidence you ignore it and plunge your head into the sand. I don't hate you, but I don't see the point in repeating the truth when you have unwilling ears. It seems you have not read the Bible. If you had read it, you wouldn't say such biblical myths.

I'm not being a hypocrite. All I'm saying is what is written in the Bible and what facts support. Facts show that asexuality is as healthy as heterosexuality, that's why priest practice it. Jesus himself said that being eunuch ( not interested in sex) is okay, whilst God condemned homosexuality in the New Testament and in the Old Testament and homosexuals were listed as those who will burn in Hell. God commanded his followers to hate sin, and to love the sinner. One can love a homosexual man whilst detesting his homosexuality. One can love a murderer whilst detesting the murder he committed. One can love a man without loving his sin. And, by 'love' God means that we should do our best to help the fella turn away from sin and to help him whenever his in trouble (for example, if a sinner is starving, we should give him food).

Sin is something that one can stop doing. We are all born wicked, and with a tendency to sin. But, through God we can all overcome sin. Homosexuality is not inborn; there's no evidence to support that. Homosexuality can be changed, and there are many studies which prove it. For instance, a study performed by Robert Spitzer ( a pro-homosexual psychiatrist, who was amongst the groups of psychologist whose efforts contributed to homosexuality stopping to be considered a disorder) showed that highly motivated homosexuals can change their sexual orientation. Thus, homosexuality is a condition which can be changed as long as the gay individual is has enough desire to change. In the same way a highly motivated drug-addict can stop being so, a highly motivated homosexual can change his sexual orientation. Thus, it is not a pointless battle to fight against addicting sin, but a battle that the one who perseveres will eventually win. God did not condemn people who suffer from homosexuality to the lake of fire, for he gave them the ability to change. It's up to homosexuals to decide whether they want to keep on committing atrocities with their bodies or change. It's up to them to decide whether they want to go to Hell or Heaven. Having said this, there's no such thing as homosexuals, but rather people who suffer from homosexuality. Since homosexuality is an illness with a cure, there's no such thing as homosexual, since homosexuals are neither born gay nor condemned to remain that way.

What's the point of the study? Not too long ago, many Christians believed whites were superiors to blacks, and thought the Bible supported their beliefs, when it is written that in God everyone is equal and that we are all descendants of Adam and Eve. The fact that a majority of Christians are being brainwashed by public schools since tender ages to accept homosexuality does not mean that homosexuality is accepted in the Bible. This shouldn't surprise you but, many studies have shown that an alarming number of Christians has never read the Bible, and believe myths about it. Many Christians even believe certain sins to be okay whilst they are condemned in the Bible, and other laughable falsehoods. Homosexuality is literally condemned in the Bible, by God, Jesus, and Paul. But since most Christians do not read the Bible, it's not surprising that they practice heresy.

What I told is the opposite of what you accuse me of. I said that our duty is to forever help sinners overcome their sins, and their worldly troubles. Look, we are all sinners, and we all forever be so. But only to those who forever try to overcome their mistakes, God will reward them with Heaven. Our duty is to eternally try to overcome our sins. Our duty is persevere as we walk the thorny path to Heaven, and at the same time lovingly help those who we find lost in the way to our destination. But, those who give themselves up to evil and practice it will burn in Hell (unless they repent). God loves all of his creation. But, He is just, and his love will not pervert His justice. There's Heaven and there's Hell, and wicked people will not go to Heaven (unless they repent since repentance will cleanse a man of all his evil and make him good) Those who sin are not forever cast away from God (whilst they live), as God is always willing to forgive them and help them overcome sin. I dare say, God weeps and feels sad when any individual chooses to sin and lives a sinful live without ever repenting of his mistakes. Men who suffer from homosexuality will burn in Hell unless they repent and try to overcome their illness. Men who steal will burn in Hell, unless they repent and try their best not to steal again.

The ten commandments do not state anything in relation to homosexuality, but there are other sins not mentioned in the Ten Commandments which God will punish people from. That is why, Christian should read the whole Bible, rather than cherry-pick a few parts of it. Homosexuality is condemned anywhere where it appears in the Bible as vile degrading feelings which are an abomination unto God, and God always punished homosexuals, who did not repent, for it. Homosexuality is condemned alongside zoophilia and adultery in Leviticus. It is condemned in a particular section dedicated to sexual immorality:

Leviticus: “If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. If a man lies with his father’s wife, he has uncovered his father’s nakedness; both of them shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them. If a man lies with his daughter-in-law, both of them shall surely be put to death; they have committed perversion; their blood is upon them. If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them. If a man takes a woman and her mother also, it is depravity; he and they shall be burned with fire, that there may be no depravity among you. If a man lies with an animal, he shall surely be put to death, and you shall kill the animal. If a woman approaches any animal and lies with it, you shall kill the woman and the animal; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.”

In the new Testament homosexuality is condemned. Besides the many verses condemning sexual immorality (as defined in the Bible), there are a number of verses exclusively condemning homosexuality. For brevity’s sake, I will include only one. Also as there’s a controversy over its accurate translations, I will include the original text as well.

Corinthian 1: “Or don't you know that the unrighteous will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don't be deceived. Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor slanderers, nor extortioners, will inherit the Kingdom of God. Such were some of you, but you were washed. But you were sanctified. But you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and in the Spirit of our God”

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(arsenokoites): homosexual, men who sleep with men
Composition:
Arsen (variant of árrhen): male
Koíte (variant of koité): marriage bed, sexual intercourse, bed, mat.

Extra: arsenokoites was first used by Paul as a reference to Leviticus. So, claims that it does not mean gays do it being used later to describe other acts are invalid (though it was still used to describe homosexuality). The word clearly means homosexual, and is a reference to Leviticus.

?a?a??? (malakos): soft, effeminate, doing things that women do, acting like a woman, feeling or doing stuff appropriate for women.
Extra: malakos comes from a myth about a king named malakos who acted like a female by dressing like a woman, and did other things considered to be womanly. But, by Paul’s time it had come to mean other things. It came to describe any sort of action considered appropriate for women, or anything associated with the female sex. It meant cross dressing, women were considered morally weak thus it also meant morally weak, emotional, homosexual, and other stuff. Taking into account that Paul and his disciples were emotional and cried in a number of times (weeping was considered feminine, and thus; men who cried were considered malakos), and taking into account Paul’s statement that spiritually men and women are equal, in this case it refers to homosexuals (men who harbored homosexual feelings were considered effeminate since those were feelings women were supposed to possess) and transgenders. It could also mean being morally weak, but considering Paul’s statements that women and men were spiritually equal, it seems unlikely he meant morally weak. Taking into account Paul’s statements condemning homosexuality (both in emotions and actions just like adultery) and transgenderism, it must mean both of them. However, considering homosexuality is condemned in the same text (see arsenokoites), it could mean solely transgenderism. I myself believe that in this case, malakos means homosexuals and transgenders due to historical reasons. Contrary to a common myth, it does not mean catamite. The belief that it means catamite stems from a passage in which malakos (malakos can also means softness of clothes, and the like) is used to describe the softness of catamite’s clothes. But, this conclusion ignores the fact that it is also used to describe the clothes of the nobility and other figures who were not catamite.

Anyway, back to the given task of preaching the truth to delusional ears, judging is not a crime. Judging is not condemned in the Bible, hypocrisy is. Judging is essential for life, as it’s something necessary for every action we take. Unless we exercise judgement in every facet of our life, from going to the grocery store and when confronted with sin. Unless we judge, we will be weak before Satan, as we will be unable to distinguish righteousness from unrighteousness. In the Bible, one must take heed to the context of every passage. In this “judge not” passage, Jesus is preaching against hypocrisy. If he was condemning judgment (as determining whether one of our brothers is doing wrong or not), he would not have said that we can help our brother take the splinter out of his eye, if we have taken the log out of ours (in other words, implying that we can judge whether our brother has a splinter in his eye or not, whether he is doing wrong or not). In other words, we can help our brothers overcome sin and judge whether they are sinning or not (so as to help them turn away from the path to Hell), but only if we are not practicing the same sin (note how both men have wood in their eyes, the same sin). It is a sin and a crime to judge someone as evil and preach against their sin when we are committing the same sin (like a man preaching against adultery when he is committing adultery). But, when we are committing a different sin, it’s okay to determine that someone else is sinning and help them overcome sin whilst we ourselves try to overcome our shortcomings, but we have to acknowledge that we are both sinners. Judgement is fine when it is educated and founded on God’s words. Thus, it is perfectly okay for us to judge or deduce that homosexuality is wrong based on reason, studies that has proven its unhealthy nature, and condemnation by God. It is okay for us to judge homosexuals as wicked, as long as we remember that we both are. It is our duty to distinguish the evil people do to help them.

Ezekiel: “ 'O wicked man, you will surely die,' and you do not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity, but his blood I will require from your hand. But if you on your part warn a wicked man to turn from his way and he does not turn from his way, he will die in his iniquity, but you have delivered your life.”

We are all wicked, but only those who strive to overcome their sins will go to Heaven. Salvation is not solely through faith, as Jesus himself confirmed. One may believe in God as one pleases. But unless we try to follow his statutes, we’ll burn in Hell.
Mathew: “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

If it’s a crime to execute or incarcerate humans who commit crimes against humanities, we should not punish murders. History has shown us that evil should be punished, as it affects all communities. Homosexuality is a depravity and a crime against humanity, thus it should be punished. However, they should only be punished for the crime of committing homosexuality if there’s any evidence against them, rather than due to a witness or mere accusation. I myself believe all sinners should be put in jail rather than executed, so that they have a chance to repent. I believe sinners should be put in jail and put to do labor. But, I understand if sometimes circumstances do not allow for such lenience.
Love as defined by God and reason is about helping your brother, not letting them walk to their death. There’s no love in allowing your brother to walk to his death by doing evil, without attempting to save them.

I hope God will help you understand what love is, and that He will free you from your delusions. Now, don’t misunderstand me and think I’ve called you crazy out of hate. I’m the kind who speaks the truth or their thoughts out loud, without meaning any form of aggression. I’ve concluded you are crazy due to your writings and denial of reality. However, a more accurate term to describe would probably be stupid. But, regardless, I’m going to pray and hope God’s frees you the demon in your heart, and that all goes well in your life. May you live a long happy life with God by you side!

natsumihanaki20, DeviantART 10 Comments [1/21/2019 5:11:03 AM]
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Quote# 142037

Good point. It seems to me that the gay community is in fear of the truth and will do anything to gag it.

Adrian Smith, Twitter 7 Comments [1/19/2019 7:02:27 AM]
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Quote# 142040

Something horrible that I have noticed is many churchgoers are faithfully living a religious life—attending church, dressing modestly, listening only to religious music, talking the religious talk, associating with only other religious people, being loyal only to their particular religious clique, living a clean and moral life—yet at the same time these damned people are using satanic Bible versions, following a demonic corrupted Gospel that requires discipleship for salvation, and have no genuine concern for the truth. They are damned because they have believed a lie! The Scriptures proclaim a CURSE upon anyone who preaches “ANOTHER GOSPEL,” and that CURSE extends to any people who trust in that false Gospel...

Galatians 1:6-9, “I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.”


Evangelist Ray Comfort is accursed! Pastor John MacArthur is accursed! Evangelist Paul Washer is accursed! Pastor Jon Piper is accursed! Pastor David Pawson is accursed! Evangelist Billy Graham is accursed! Pastor Joel Osteen is accursed! Pastor Rick Warren is accursed! Dr. James Dobson is accursed! Pastor Charles Lawson is accursed! Pastor Keith Gomez is accursed! All of these false prophets preach a corrupted Gospel!!! I say that not to be unkind, God knows my heart, but to be truthful.

David J. Stewart, Soulwinning.info 17 Comments [1/19/2019 7:04:03 AM]
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Quote# 142042

(In the thread "Can you be gay and be against gay marriage?")
Note: "Exceptional individual" and "exceptional" are Kiwi Farms's word filters for "retard" and "retarded," respectively.


How about mentioning the fact that the Supreme Court ruling on gay marriage was unconstiutional and anyone saying that it wasn't bullshit judicial activism is a fucking exceptional individual?

@Jaiman:
You can't just not give people basic freedoms in fear that some faggots will try to take advantage of it. NAMBLA tried to take part in LGBT movements since the 90s, and pedos are still shunned by society.


Shut up, cuck.
"""""basic freedoms""""

@Clintonberg:
basic human rights


Your name fits you well, kike.

@PurcupineTree:
Ok sure but of all the unconstitutional shit to complain about, I’m not going to choose the one that benefits a large group of people and harms nobody.


It harms states' rights. And nobody cares.

Of all the things to override democracy for, we're stooping to fucking gay marriage because some dudes couldn't be buried together. It's especially heinous because it matters so little.

@PurcupineTree:
Does it? I mean, would the world really be that different if that order wasn’t made?

If I was a super straight person I guess I might feel a little more scandalized, but in the rare event that I found a compatible wife, I would very much like to get married and adopt kids. My perspective is biased here.


Yes, because laws were overwritten to make it happen. It was an issue traditionally, (at the time of issuing it) recently, and consistently handled by indivdual states. (Parts of Alabama and Texas still don't have gay marriage because of the few institutions there that can validate marriages refuse to do it- wait until that's overriden too for the technicolor special interests groups.)

But fuck that, lolololol. Right side of history.

@PorcupineTree:
k that’s fair. I’m just an unpatriotic fag and don’t care enough lol


And that is why your kin will fall.

@PurcupineTree:
. They can’t singlehandedly topple democracy, I promise.


They have roasties and kikes as allies.

Y2K Baby, Kiwi Farms 10 Comments [1/19/2019 7:04:56 AM]
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Quote# 142026

Look at these unreasonable thug cops, and the evasive authorities, and the horrible way they mistreat Wolfgang Halbig, a former state trooper who dared to ask questions about what happened at Sandy Hook. ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH6hmI1h-iQ

The very way the authorities have shunned him, demonized him, shut him out and even criminalized him, clearly evidence that Sandy Hook was a massive hoax! Halbig makes 100% good sense. He is asking very simple questions, that every parent would ask. As Halbig points out, 27 children were declared dead in 8 minutes and no ambulances were called. Who does that? Portable restrooms were ordered the day before the alleged Sandy Hook shooting!!! Someone pre-ordered a big machine that displayed electronic messages, which read: “Check-in Here!” Who would order this for a shooting event?

I've looked at the videos, which YouTube has relentlessly censored. YouTube is owned by Google and they (very much) DO censor THE TRUTH!!! We are fighting an information war, not only in the secular world, but also in the churches. Effectively, the battle over the inspiration of the Word of God is a fight over WHICH AUTHORITY can be trusted? Before the year 1881 there was only ONE ENGLISH BIBLE TRANSLATION SOURCE, the Textus Receptus! Westcott and Hort raised up and introduced a SECOND AUTHORITY in 1881, which contradicted the first, final and only true authority, which is God's Word! So since 1881 the world has has TWO AUTHORITIES!!! Consequently, a THIRD AUTHORITY is needed (which is modern-day scholars) to decide which of the first TWO authorities can be trusted. This is humanism and apostasy, which religious colleges like Bob Jones University are guilty of supporting, sanctioning, selling, using and tolerating! The ONLY authority that a born-again believer needs is the King James Bible!!!!!!!

David J. Stewart, Love the Truth 17 Comments [1/18/2019 9:09:43 AM]
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Quote# 142049

Hollywood reprobate actor, Robert De Niro, who stars in the 2016 filthy movie, “DIRTY GRANDPA,” says...

“If there is a God he has a lot to answer for.”
SOURCE: Robert De Niro - Biography - IMDb


What a hypocrite! De Niro says that God has a lot to answer for? No, it is Mr. De Niro who has a lot to answer for. Here's the vile, disgusting and offensive content of De Niro's recent work of darkness, “DIRTY GRANDPA”...

2016 “DIRTY GRANDPA” FILM CONTENTS...

Violence:
- Brief non-graphic violence.
- Infrequent portrayals of hand-to hand violence with little blood and some detail.
- Depictions of fighting and electrocution.

Sexual Content:
- Frequent use of crude and descriptive sexual language and gestures.
- Sexual references and innuendo.
- Infrequent portrayals of sexual activity, with buttock nudity and a little detail.
- Nudity in a brief sexual situation.
- Breast and male frontal nudity in a non-sexual context.
- Full frontal nudity.
- Embracing and kissing.
- Fondling.
- Brief simulated sexual activity.
- Implied sexual activity.
- Frequent crude and offensive scenes.

Language:
Approximately 270 instances of coarse language, including:
- Pervasive use of the sexual expletive, many in a sexual context.
- Frequent use of scatological slang.
- Infrequent use of vulgar expressions.
- Use of sexual, racial, and developmental slurs.

Alcohol / Drug Use:
- Two scenes of drug use involving marijuana and/ cocaine.
- Portrayals of alcohol and illegal substance use, sometimes to excess.
- Tobacco use.

SOURCE: http://parentpreviews.com/movie-reviews/content-details/dirty-grandpa


It is not God Who has a lot to answer for Mr. De Niro, it is us sinful human beings!!! Ecclesiastes 12:14, “For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.” Romans 14:12, “So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.” Hebrews 4:13, “Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.”

I don't condemn any man, for I am the biggest sinner that I know. Thankfully, my sins have been washed away by the blood of Jesus Christ, when I trusted Jesus Christ as my personal Savior at age 13, receiving His sacrifice on the cross for my sins, and believing that He resurrected from the dead three days later for my justification. I feel sorry for Woody Allen and Robert De Niro, who openly reject Jesus Christ and profess to be atheists. In effect, they have appointed themselves to be their own God.

We are all so very blessed by God. God gave us tastebuds to enjoy food, and a wondrous variety of delicious delicacies from which to choose. God gave us our eyes to see, and made the beautiful sunsets and flowers to behold. God gave us our ears to hear, and the lovely music to enjoy. God gives us our breath. Like King Belshazzar, Robert De Niro does not glorify the God in whose hand his breath is. Daniel 5:22-23, “And thou his son, O Belshazzar, hast not humbled thine heart, though thou knewest all this; But hast lifted up thyself against the LORD of heaven; and they have brought the vessels of his house before thee, and thou, and thy lords, thy wives, and thy concubines, have drunk wine in them; and thou hast praised the gods of silver, and gold, of brass, iron, wood, and stone, which see not, nor hear, nor know: and the God in whose hand thy breath is, and whose are all thy ways, hast thou not glorified.” Every way of a man's life is only possible because of God's blessings and power. If it weren't for our omnipotent God, our human heart could not pump blood 100,000 times each and every day of our life!!! How dare De Niro arrogantly say that if there is a God, He has a lot of explaining to do. God owes De Niro NOTHING!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 18 Comments [1/19/2019 3:36:39 PM]
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Quote# 142062

Just having returned from a visit to “the greatest place on earth,” my wife and I were shocked at how many men boldly acted like women. Lispy sentences, light gestures, soft mannerisms, and flamboyant jokes were everywhere to be seen — on display for a park flooded with children. No hiding it. No shame. No apologizing. This perversion of masculinity warranted no commercials.

Instead, our society celebrates what Paul calls literally “soft men” (Greek malakoi), a group that will not enter the kingdom of God (1 Corinthians 6:9). And discomfort at this will-not-inherit-the-kingdom version of manliness is exactly a symptom of what the APA finds malignant in traditional manhood. But as much as the APA and LGBTQs protest it as hate speech, the effeminate shall not enter the kingdom of God, and it is unloving not to say so.

While men who brutalize and manipulate represent one form of perversion (the kind companies now put their dollars into supporting), men who sit passive, complacent, spiritually and emotionally frail, represent another. So also do men who rebel against their sex by acting like women. And too many classrooms that celebrate this perversion act as accomplices to confusing the boys (and girls) of today. Paul commands all men, “Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong” (1 Corinthians 16:13), and offers them the hope of the gospel that they too might be washed, sanctified, and justified “in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God” (1 Corinthians 6:11).

David Mathis rightly tells us that the strongest men are gentle. But do not hear him saying that godly men are soft, fragile, weak, or effeminate. They do not faint in the day of adversity. They dress for war every day against forces of evil. They are sacrificial initiators, not limp deferrers. Men who charge against enemy gates, leading from the front, and refusing to take cover behind their wives and children. They lead. They protect. They initiate. They love. They sacrifice. They work. They worship. They are men.

Greg Morse, Desiring God 17 Comments [1/20/2019 11:11:49 AM]
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Quote# 142051

[ on turning in a murderer . ]



If my suspicions are right and he is guilty, then he didn't commit a perfect crime. Therefore, any investigators worth their salt should have been able to crack the case. I don't feel obligated to go out of my way and make their job any easier.

Rachellelogram, The Straight dope 10 Comments [1/19/2019 3:36:47 PM]
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Quote# 142054

When the next “OMG Trump is totally going to prison!” media bombshell story comes out, many of us will, once again, know that it’s wishful lunacy

And the people pushing it will forget that they were wrong this time, and the time before that, and the time before that...

Buck Sexton, Twitter 16 Comments [1/19/2019 3:37:05 PM]
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Quote# 142059

(Everlasting Life said:
I think we're seeing some of the fruits of college edumacation.)


Yes we are. University and college is where children and young adults go to be educated into the most destructive pernicious Satanic philosophies like Derrida's "Deconstructionism".

athenasius, Rapture Forums 6 Comments [1/20/2019 11:05:33 AM]
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Quote# 58100

[A two-fer: FSTDT and CTSTDT]

I'm uncomfortable with it because it's a sin!

But there's much more to it than that. I used to be able to shower at the gym after working out without wondering if anyone would be leering at me or lusting after me. Although there may have been those that did in the past, they kept it to themselves. But not anymore...it's all out of the closet, so it's ok now for some pervert to come up to me while Im naked and hit on me. That's uncomfortable. Fortunately, that never actually happened, as I started showering at home long ago. But that hasn't stopped me from being hit on in public restrooms.

The biggest problem is that it is now an agenda. The agenda is to procelytize the "future generation" (read kids) by teaching them it's normal and natural (which it is not either). Meanwhile, the adults are left to the propaganda machine (the news and entertainment media). Our first amendment rights of free speech all of a sudden vanish, when it is deemed by someone as "hate speech". (1984 was a little late, but not much) It is promoted as a "lifestyle choice", yet then the same people turn around and say it is not actually a choice, they were born that way. It's an agenda of forced acceptance which nullifies the nuclear family, which is the building block of society; as well as our basic rights and dignities.

If you want to be a homosexual, that's fine, but leave everyone else alone with it. We don't hate you, we hate the agenda and the forcing of your "choice" on society.

lantern swinger, Y! Answers 30 Comments [2/8/2009 2:28:42 PM]
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