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Quote# 105433

"Are there any Earth-is-stationary proofs?", you might be asking.

Yes! -There are quite a few undeniable proofs that the Earth is stationary - that it does not rotate about its axis daily.

Why is that important?

“The most important element in heliocentric model is the Earth’s rotation about its polar axis”, says Dr. Shaban in his book, The Verses of Deus (page 77). The reason for that is obvious: If the Earth does not rotate 360 degrees in 24 hours, but if it does revolve around the sun, then one side would always be in daylight, while the other half would experience continual night. It would be similar to what we see of the moon, as it revolves around Earth.

Forget for a moment that no one has ever offered a logical explanation WHY the Earth would rotate on its axis! --and keep rotating for thousands of years. By the time you research the matter of Earth-goes-around-sun versus sun-goes-around-Earth, you will not need an answer to that, since only the second of these two options can be true = reality.

Genesis-Creation-Proof.com, Genesis-Creation-Proof.com 15 Comments [12/22/2014 4:26:48 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris
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Quote# 105401

Our nation's youth are under malicious satanic attack by the forces of Hell beneath. Sexual sins are epidemic amongst youth today. American's are idolaters, even calling the nation's top talent-finding show, “AMERICAN IDOL”! Americans worship singers, actors and sports athletes. It's called “Celebrity Worship Syndrome”! Hollywood's (HollyWEIRD) sinister influence on American culture has been devastating. America's youth are surrounded today by sex, sex, sex!

The moral consequences of such video games as James Bond (Agent 007), Vice City and other sexually explicitly video games is reflected in the daily news. Last month a 16-year-old Roswell, Georgia, girl murdered a 28-year-old man to steal his PS4 PlayStation gaming system! What do you expect when God's Word is stripped away from children's lives? It's not that hard to figure out! Instead of teaching children that they were deliberately formed by a loving God, they're instead taught that they evolved from stardust by accidental aftermath and cosmic coincidence from a Big Bang 13 billion years ago!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 26 Comments [12/21/2014 1:39:09 PM]
Fundie Index: 7
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Quote# 105434

["Seriously? If I didn't care about farmed animals, I wouldn't be a vegan."]

Hold up. If you buy meat from the store, that's not vegan. If you take advantage of factory farms and actively participate in animal exploitation then you are not vegan. You can't call yourself vegan to absolve your responsibility for animal cruelty.

["But I'm not going to take it so far as compromising the health of my pets."]

Can we talk about reality? You are literally saying that you have animals killed because you can't think of a better way to take care of your pets.

I can't even begin to explain to you how ignorant this is. YOU ARE ALREADY COMPROMISING THE HEALTH OF YOUR PETS by feeding them an unnatural meat diet composed of processed foods. The standard household cat's diet is garbage, leftovers from the factory farms fortified with chemicals for preservation and to keep the cats off their death bed. Just because there is real meat in your cat food doesn't mean your cats are getting a good diet and to suggest that vegan food is not nutritional only because it doesn't have meat is a type of ignorance I deal with every day.

techn0scho0lbus, Reddit: /r/Vegan/ 15 Comments [12/22/2014 4:27:15 AM]
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Quote# 105416

Not a day seems to pass without the sanctimonious charlatans at Sulzberger's Slimes taking a cheap shot at the "human rights violations" of some foreign bad-guy d'jour. Meanwhile, here in America, bakers, florists, photographers and other affiliated wedding professionals are being forced, under penalty of law, to provide service to the sodomite spectacles of Obongo's America. It's not enough for the homosexuals to have gained the "right" to "marry" (barf), now they are throwing hissy-fits over anyone who refuses to recognize the abomination. Where is that storied "tolerance" that the pious Left is always lecturing about?

The Slimes piece highlights the case of Jack Phillips, a Colorado baker whose two-year court battle is about to finally go to trial. Described as "an Evangelical Christian" - as if only Christians oppose "gay" marriage - Phillips politely declined to bake a queer cake for Charlie Craig and David Mullins. When the vindictive girly-boys promptly reported him to the authorities, the State Civil Rights Commission ordered Phillips to retrain all of his employees, who include his 87-year-old mother, and to produce a quarterly report detailing any refusals to bake. In response, Phillips has stopped accepting orders for any wedding cakes while he appeals the ruling.

In New York, a law judge fined Cynthia and Robert Gifford $13,000 for declining to rent their farmhouse for the wedding of two women. The couple paid the fine but has stopped accepting reservations for any more weddings while appealing. In California, a photographer was harassed by flash mobs of sodomite protesters and then fined. And on and on this growing litany of sad stories goes, and grows.

The legal cases are being fueled and fought by the American Civil Liberties Union; a legal front for Marxist subversion since 1920. For every business owner who has the means to stand his ground and fight the ACLU's legal terrorism, there are surely many more who just bite their tongues as they reluctantly obey the dictates of the sodomite newlyweds. In masking the pure evil of this outrageous tyranny, The Slimes uses the trick of presenting the two sides of this controversy in an impartial manner; homosexuals vs Christians: we report, you decide. In reality, the big story here is how innocent business owners are being terrorized by the sodomites on one end, and State governments on the other. There is no moral equivalence!

Even by the already low standards of just 10 years ago, godless America's accelerated descent into degeneracy is breathtaking to behold. It appears that a total societal collapse and prolonged period of suffering will be the only way that a rebirth of civilization will ever occur. As it is with trees, so it is with the affairs of man. The browning leaves must die off before the new buds can sprout.

Mike King, Tomato Bubble 14 Comments [12/22/2014 4:08:13 AM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives
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Quote# 105404

Avatar: The Last Airbender is a show that had been airing on Nickelodeon for three years, from 2005 to 2008. While this show had been over for two years, it has garnered a strong amount of popularity from the population and has a very large and active to this day. With its sequel series “Avatar: The Legend of Korra” scheduled to debut in 2011, we must know of the Satanic nature of this television series and protect our children and society from it.

The story is vast and detailed, so this is only a brief synopsis. A twelve-year-old monk named Aang, who is an Airbender and the Avatar, is awakened. The Airbenders were a people who led a lifestyle very similar to that of the Tibetan Buddhists and knew how to create and control wind. All of them except Aang were decimated in a raid by the Fire Nation. Aang has already mastered the element of air, but must also move on to obtain mastery in controlling water, earth, and fire before he faces the leader of the Fire Nation, called Fire Lord Ozai, in order to bring peace and balance to the world.

As you have read in the synopsis, these characters can control the elements by their own force. Although show has tried to pass it off as harmless “bending” by having Aang say that it’s “not magic, it’s airbending” in the first episode, this does not hide the fact that the show is filled with magicians. We know from the Holy Bible that magic is a Satanic art and those who practice magic must be executed. If Aang and his buddies were in the Middle East instead of a fictional Asia-esque world, they would have been burned to death for their sorcery. Their infernal powers would not have been a match for God and His people’s justice.

But the casual usage of magic is not the worst part about the show. The whole show is diseased with elements of Buddhism and Hinduism mixed in, directly and indirectly. First of all, as said in the short synopsis, the Air Nomads have lived a very Tibetan Buddhist-like lifestyle, and Aang continues to follow their demonic traditions. Aang always emphasizes his portrayal as a Buddhist monk through vegetarianism, pacifism, and meditation. In one of the series, there is a character who has found his “enlightenment” by sitting under a large banyan grove tree. In another episode, there is a “guru” who gives Aang aid in “opening his chakras”. These references to Buddhism and Hinduism should be incredibly sickening to any Christian. The evil ideas of chakras and the allusion to the story of Buddha, an agent of Satan, pain me to no end. Yet the media allows this dirty show run on air without any qualms. Is this spiritual deterioration what must happen to our society?

The upcoming series, “Avatar: The Legend of Korra”, is just as bad. This focuses on a female Avatar named Korra who fights in a place called “Republic City”. We have a female character doing what men should be doing; while this is not a promotion of sexism, women and men have their set places by God. The show is trying to breach that sacred boundary by having a female character enter wars, instead of doing her womanly duties of taking care of the family. While females battling was seen abundantly in the first series, the fact that this out-of-place, misguided female is set as the main character shows that the show is all Satan's ploy to mock and overturn Christian values. If Nickelodeon is allowing such smut to be shown in their network, why don’t they show child porn instead?

I must confess that before my realization of the Satanic nature of the Avatar series, I had enjoyed it as well. Luckily Christ has opened my eyes to the truth. Knowing the truth, I cannot sit and allow this show to overrun our children’s minds with Satanic messages in the guise of seemingly benign ideas.

We, as Christians, must fight this show. We cannot rest until this show is completely off the air and further production of it is stopped.

The Biblical Christian, Take Avatar Off Air 31 Comments [12/21/2014 1:40:06 PM]
Fundie Index: 9
Submitted By: Lord_Ninjacat
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Quote# 105429

Rush Limbaugh recently denounced CBS’s choice of Stephen Colbert to replace David Letterman on The Late Show, but I don’t see why. I never “got” Letterman, who has always come off as little more than a bitter, snarky asshole to me. Doesn’t seem like it would be hard to find a better replacement for the guy, but maybe at the tender age of 39 I’m just not sophisticated enough to appreciate his brand of humor.

Instead of improvement, the network appears to be trying to stay true to message, and plans to replace him with another bitter, snarky asshole. Only this time, the guy has built his career on a supposedly odious character who is probably more likeable than the man himself.

Stephen Colbert has risen to prominence by portraying conservative Americans as moronic imbeciles. It plays really well to the left, and gets a few laughs from the right, too, because conservatives are better sports, and can actually laugh at themselves.

...

Stephen Colbert hit it big with his spoof of right-wing talk hosts, but that’s the only thing he’s done of any note whatsoever. Colbert is a one-trick pony. His acting skills are not bad (I’ve seen him on Law and Order), but his charisma is scraping the bottom of the barrel. I can’t imagine why anyone would want to watch Colbert being himself. It’s a horrible decision on the part of CBS to give him a real talk show, but then again it doesn’t bother me much when major networks screw up.

Watching a poor, flaccid imitation of a boomer liberal like Dave Letterman is going to be a lot less exciting than taking cheap shots at conservatives, so I expect people to simply change the channel when they see the treacle that characterizes the real Stephen Colbert. It will be like pulling the curtains away from the Oz of progs, revealing the squinty, beady-eyed little mediocrity Colbert trying to be “with it” despite being nothing more than an out-of-touch Irish nerd who is generally reviled by the demographic he’s been hired to represent.

Good luck, CBS. You would have done better with a Spanish-language bimbo talk show about Mexican telenovelas.

W. F. Price, The Spearhead 14 Comments [12/22/2014 4:24:27 AM]
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Quote# 105405

On “The 700 Club” today, Pat Robertson took a question from a viewer who said she attends a church whose members aren’t allowed to date, leaving many church members “frustrated because we’re getting older and no one is getting married.”

Robertson found this to be absolutely ridiculous because a church with a no-dating policy will eventually “die out”… just like gay people.

“You know, those who are homosexual will die out because they don’t reproduce,” he said. “You know, you have to have heterosexual sex to reproduce. Same thing with that church, it’s doomed, it’s going to die out because it’s the most nonsensical thing I’ve heard in a long time.”

Pat Robertson, Right Wing Watch 29 Comments [12/21/2014 1:40:16 PM]
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Submitted By: Scolipendra
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Quote# 105408

I am a Cuban-American citizen and get this right….

NO Cuban-American politician in USA (Ted Cruz, Diaz-Balart, Marco Rubio, Bob Menendez) NONE is a Christian, they are MARRANOS-SEPHARDI kissing JEWS ass and traitors to the Founding Fathers USA Constitution …

They are Hippocratic and deceivers double moral, they are JUDAS…. They can NOT be TRUSTED!!! …. The real Cubans we LOVE and unconditionally JESUS OF NAZARETH, JESUS THE CHRIST!!!!

Yesterday was the news that the JEWISH slave Barack Obama under instructions from his JEWISH quorum MASTERS in America re-established relations with Cuba after more than 50 years…..

Truth is that was to free the Jew Alan P. Gross that Castro incarcerate in Cuba as exchange coin for his people jailed in America… Together with Ross was other American Citizen spy that was for 20 years incarcerate in Cuba, but this one was just to cover up the real “humanitarian” purpose. All this was to free the JEW.

Truth is that PUTIN in Russia can install Nuclear missiles in Cuba in response to the aggressive action of NATO in the Baltic. This was to tie Cuban government hands promising a Carrot.

JEWS control both USA government, the State Department, Supreme Court, Treasure Department and Senate and Congress, and all this was to free a JEW incarcerate in Cuba….. TOO MANY JEWS around CUBA….. STINK!!!..STINK!!!…. STINK!!!….

This smell fish!!!!….. Of course I want FREEDOM to my Cuban people, Democracy, but this is not, this is selling out CUBA to the JEWS!!!!!!

Mario Herrera, Real Jew News 29 Comments [12/21/2014 1:42:43 PM]
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Quote# 105413

A new proposed bill in the Missouri state legislature would require women to get a man’s permission before being able to obtain an abortion.

Republican Missouri state representative Rick Brattin introduced the legislation earlier this month in the state house. If passed, the law would require women seeking an abortion to get consent from the man who is the father of the child. Exceptions are allowed in cases of rape or incest, but there is no mention of an exception in other circumstances, such as if the woman is in an abusive relationship.

The bill states: “No abortion shall be performed or induced unless and until the father of the unborn child provides written, notarized consent to the abortion, except in cases in which the woman upon whom the abortion is to be performed or induced was the victim of rape or incest and the pregnancy resulted from the rape or incest. If the father of the unborn child is deceased, the woman upon whom the abortion is to be performed or induced shall sign a notarized affidavit attesting to the fact.”

In an interview with Mother Jones, Brattin told the website: “Just like any rape, you have to report it, and you have to prove it. So you couldn’t just go and say, ‘Oh yeah, I was raped’ and get an abortion. It has to be a legitimate rape.”

The bill contains no exception for women who are in abusive relationships. Brattin explained his reasoning to Mother Jones: “What does that have to do with the child’s life? Just because it was an abusive relationship, does that mean the child should die?”

Rick Brattin, MSNBC 11 Comments [12/22/2014 4:05:11 AM]
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Submitted By: OhJohnNo
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Quote# 105428

End Times broadcaster Rick Wiles is upset that Western nations have imposed sanctions on the Russian economy, contributing to the country’s recent financial crisis, since Wiles is a big booster of Vladimir Putin and especially the Russian government’s anti-LGBT policies. On his radio show “Trunews” this week, Wiles predicted that the U.S. will provoke Russia into using nuclear weapons “and just obliterate us while we sleep at night.” And when this happens, Wiles warned, God won’t come to America’s aid: “We are on the edge of World War III and this time the United States of America does not have divine protection because we’ve become a nation of homosexuals and atheists and lesbians and God-haters.” He said that Americans will instead cry out to their “gay god” while Russia pummels the country with nukes. “Is your gay god going to come and save you?” he asked. Last year, Wiles warned of a looming nuclear war with North Korea, which he attributed to God’s outrage at gay people.

Rick Wiles, Right Wing Watch 11 Comments [12/22/2014 4:24:06 AM]
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Submitted By: Giveitaday
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Quote# 105414

Banning child labor has the unintended consequences of starvation or child prostitution. Then banning child prostitution would lead to only starvation.
The real solution is to legalize child labor. Fortunately in the US the standard of living is high enough few parents would resort to this type of condition for their children. Unfortunately, the path we are heading, they might need to legalize child labor in the next couple of decades.
The cost of living was so low/standard of living so high, that in the 50's and 60's a husband could provide for his family of 5 or 6 while his wife stayed home and took care of the children. During the 50's and 60's increases in productivity still outweighed the ill effects of inflation. Since the 70's when Nixon severed the last ties to the gold standard, inflation has skyrocketed. The dollar has lost 95% of its value since 1913. Today it takes two parents with 2 children to maintain what a husband could achieve for a family of 5 or 6 including his wife in the 50's and 60's. This is why I say if we keep heading down this path, child labor might have to be legalized to prevent prostitution.
The real pimp here isn't the parents, its the government taxing the poor with inflation.

Conn2005, /r/libertarian 8 Comments [12/22/2014 4:05:25 AM]
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Quote# 105415

IT’S NOT ABOUT “CULTURAL FUNDAMENTALISM” IT’S ABOUT PERSONAL SEPARATION

It has become vogue to declare one’s loyalty to "historic fundamentalism" while distancing oneself from "cultural fundamentalism." "Historic Fundamentalism" is defined by those who affirm this paradigm as belief in the cardinal doctrines of the Christian faith. "Cultural Fundamentalism," according to those who disenfranchise from it, is fixated on music, dress, ministry associations and methods. While such an argument may be appealing, it is simply not valid. Failure to biblically explain one’s position on matters pertaining to Christian liberty by attacking a newly created straw man called, "Cultural Fundamentalism," will cause increasing polarization among those who profess to know the Lord and love His word. Peace among the brethren will not come as a result of pummeling the straw man called "cultural fundamentalism." Why not? Because it’s not about "cultural fundamentalism," it’s about personal separation!

[...]

Beware of those who belittle personal separation by attacking "cultural fundamentalism." To belittle separatism is to belittle Scripture and to ignore what it means to live a life of consecration. It’s not about "cultural fundamentalism", it never has been. It’s about living a consecrated life of personal separation to please a holy God.

Rev. Dr. Chuck Phelps, Stuff Fundies Like 7 Comments [12/22/2014 4:06:56 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP
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Quote# 105393

One rabbi described the method he finds most effective with young Jewish men:

"I usually meet the young man late in the evening at the synagogue and ask him to come into the main sanctuary. The atmosphere is quiet, with more than 500 empty seats; the only lights are in the back and a few near the Ark. Then I tell the young man, 'Open the holy Ark.' He may ask, 'Rabbi, now?' and I answer, 'Yes, now.' After he opens the Ark, I ask him to take out the Sefer Torah. Again he may ask, 'Right now?' and I answer, 'Yes, now.' Then I tell him emphatically, 'Throw the Torah on the floor! Stamp on it and spit on it!!'

"Invariably the young man says, 'Rabbi, you must be kidding!' Then I take the Torah from him and return it to the Ark. Immediately I lace into him, 'By marrying out of our religion, you are throwing down, stamping, and spitting on the holy Torah!' Then I continue from there. Very often this proves the most helpful in changing the minds of serious young people who are considering intermarriage.

"By taking them into the sanctuary, opening the Ark (which even the most unlearned Jew reveres) and asking them to throw down and spit on the holy Torah scroll, they feel for the first time how wrong intermarriage is."

Analysis: Here the rabbi creates an emotional confrontation between the man's desire for the woman and his desire to respect what is holy. The Rabbi thus opens a channel for effective communication and change.

Rabbi Kalman Packouz, How to Prevent an Intermarriage 22 Comments [12/21/2014 1:34:25 PM]
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Quote# 105304

They had it right in the old days – women were married off at 13/14, in fact in Roman times it was customary for men in their mid 40’s to take wives in their mid teens (the lucky bastards) in order to ensure children and that the wives could look after their husbands in old age. Modern society expects a man like me to marry a modern mid 30’s woman with her shrivelled ovaries instead of a dewy, juicy teen and the thought of it makes me almost nauseous.

Sparks, Chateau Heartiste 43 Comments [12/17/2014 4:07:49 AM]
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Quote# 105437

Westcity Bible Baptist Church Pastor Logan Robertson sent an email to a gay Christian author who was promoting his book:

"We are not interested in your filthy lifestyle or book.

Romans 1 clearly says God has rejected homos and they are worthy of death. You can not be saved.

The bible says you are vile, strange (queer), reprobate, filth, sodomite, natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed…

I pray that you will commit suicide, you filthy child molesting fag.

Pastor Logan Robertson"

New Zealand’s ONE News decided that they should really get a comment from Robertson. So they had reporter Matt McLean call him up for an interview.

Turns out McLean is also gay.

So guess how that interview went?

Pastor Robertson told Mr McLean he would not give an interview to a “filthy faggot” and he hoped that he too would commit suicide.

Robertson spoke to one reporter, presumably a straight one, and explained that he really wasn’t the bad guy here.

“I think every single one of them [homosexuals] should be put to death,” says Pastor Robertson.
“Christians shouldn’t be doing it, I’m not going to do it, it’s the Government’s job to be doing it.”

Pastor Logan Robertson, Friendly Athiest 13 Comments [12/22/2014 4:32:20 AM]
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Submitted By: skybison
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Quote# 105392

Q: Don’t humans have a place in Nature?
It has been said that our environmental woes stem from being out of touch with the natural world. Perhaps this check list will help to restore our sense of place in Nature. Join the search for a human niche, and help determine where on Earth we fit.

Check off as many niches as fit us:

Evolution’s crowning achievement
Most advanced being on Earth
Integral part of the web of life
Exotic invader
Parasitic pest
Dominator, usurper of resources
Fluke of evolution, apart from nature
Spiritual unifier of heaven & earth - of divinity and Nature
Worshipper of Nature as god/goddess
Transcender of physical realm
Steward, caretaker of lesser species
Equal with all life forms
Link on the food chain
Restorer of balance, undoer of civilization
Defender of Nature
Cancer or virus
Soon-to-be-extinct altruist
Other
Many cling to the quaint notion that we are still a part of Nature, and perhaps we are, depending on how “a part of” is defined.

An established and balanced ecosystem functions in a dynamic symbiosis. All species interact with each other in three possible ways: mutualistic, communalistic, or parasitic. A mutualistic relationship helps both organisms. A communalistic relationship neither helps nor harms the interacting organisms. A parasitic relationship helps one and harms the other.

Are we a part of Nature in the same way a timber company is a part of the forest? Or the same way a farmer is part of the farm? We could be part of nature the same way, say, an otter is: eating sea urchins and being eaten by sharks.

We were once like the otter, part of the ecosystem. Then we developed agriculture, and have become parasitic, depending on exploitation of Nature for our survival, but giving nothing back.

The fossil record shows that each time Homo sapiens entered a continent, a spasm of extinctions followed. Exotic invaders typically disrupt ecosystems, and we are no exception.

On some philosophical level there is no doubt some truth feeding the myth. However, by examining our daily lives, and asking ourselves, “What part of my normal day is a part of Nature?” the sad truth is revealed.

Voluntary Human Extinction Movement, VHEMT 25 Comments [12/21/2014 1:33:56 PM]
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Submitted By: Sergeant343
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Quote# 105400

Perhaps entertainment corporations would be more inclined to show civility and respect to Christians again if some of us applied the lesson we've learned from the supposed North Korean example.

It is, of course, vastly amusing to see a Hollywood entity complaining about someone else seeking to destroy their spirit and morale. Isn't that exactly what Hollywood has been relentlessly doing to Western civilization since the 1960s?

Vox Day, Vox Popoli 17 Comments [12/21/2014 1:37:23 PM]
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Quote# 105380

If you believe that there is even a remote possibility that there is a God Who gave us the Torah and that there is reward and punishment for our actions in this world, you should reconsider intermarriage. This understanding of eternal consequences for our decisions and behavior is a very basic Jewish belief going back to the beginning of our people.

Intermarriage is an extremely serious violation of the Torah. In one sense, it is the ultimate violation - all future generations born to a non-Jewish mother will not be Jewish and will be cut off from our heritage.

If the mother is Jewish and the father is not, there is a great likelihood that the child - Jewish by birthright - will not receive a Torah education and will lead a life devoid of Torah, a life filled with inadvertent violations of the Torah.

Recent studies show that a very small percentage of such children are being raised according to any definition of being Jewish. The intermarried person is causing this tragedy.

Putting romantic notions aside, it is not worth the punishment and loss of reward in the World to Come because of intermarriage - especially since you can find all the qualities you seek in a Jewish spouse - if you try.

Rabbi Kalman Packouz, How to Stop an Intermarriage 21 Comments [12/20/2014 4:21:57 AM]
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Quote# 105381

A third means of illustrating the moral wrong of intermarriage is to say to your son [...] "We know well enough to be wary of getting involved with a dope addict, no matter how endearing and lovely she is, because we know it will hurt. How about getting involved with someone who is endearing and lovely who will hurt not only you, but your parents and your whole people? Drop her! It hurts? Morality requires a willingness to accept hurt."

Rabbi Kalman Packouz, How to Stop an Intermarriage 26 Comments [12/20/2014 4:22:08 AM]
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Quote# 105398

[Delphyne]
Haha, secret recordings of men’s conversations. If feminist academics were doing that kind of research now instead of promoting pole-dancing to their students, it would all be over. Every woman would be signed up for the revolution. I love the fact women actually walked out of their jobs when they heard the truth coming from the lips of the men they worked with.

Yes, feminist men want to keep us running round in circles, intent on believing the myth of the good man, the man who can change, and wondering how we can just get all the other men to be like him. They will never tell the truth about themselves or other men. Meanwhile they are sucking our energy and predating on us in any groups they manage to access or any woman they mange to attach to. I think the list of demands women need to make, in order to even begin to secure our freedom, demonstrates what an impossibility women’s hopes for men really are.

[Witchwind]
That would be a far more interesting and relevant way of doing “discourse analysis” lol.

Note that on the man’s tool guide, it’s assumed that the male reader it’s addressed to will be from a different planet arriving on earth and having no clue what men do to women, let alone participate in it himself. He’s just supposed to “learn” about it (although learn what, it’s not clear, cause there’s loads of long words replacing the word “man” and “men’s violence”), pay attention to people saying things, and errr, that’s it.

Note that in this context, suggesting men to 1: read and listen to feminists and 2 : do nothing else (especially not stop PIV/rape/abuse); is actually the worst thing to do. What do men do with what they read and learn from feminists? First, they don’t understand it, but most importantly, THEY USE IT AGAINST WOMEN. All they will understand is that women are being suspicious of men, are getting away from their control and they had better correct that sitution by whichever means possible.
This is pretty much basic wisdom for a radfem, but it bears repeating: it is suicidal to talk to men about feminism and try to “educate them” or argue with them (or talk to them at all) or give them what we know about them (and what we don’t know). It’s like handing our liberation tools to men on a platter, for them to improve on their control and manipulation and psychological torture tactics. Men rely on our constant transparency and openness, and they despise us for it too, because they know to conceal their thoughts and intentions at most if not all times (whenever necessary in fact). Telling men about feminism is equivalent to confessing to torturers.

Women: DO NOT GIVE MEN ANY RADFEM MATERIAL, EVER!!!!!

Delphyne and Witchwind, Radical Wind 17 Comments [12/21/2014 1:35:45 PM]
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Submitted By: What?
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Quote# 12369

i dont know if any of you know much about Mother Theresa, but she prayed and prayed for God to send someone to India who would help to cure disease, mainly AIDS. She prayed on three seperate occasions, and all three times God replied that the person he sent was aborted.

Maria, Myspace 59 Comments [6/16/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Sierra
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Quote# 105391

Abe is the most nationalistic leader of postwar Japan. He is rebooting nuclear power, building up Japan’s military, asserting her rights in territorial disputes with China and Korea.

And he is among a host of leaders of large and emerging powers who may fairly be described as the new nationalistic strong men.

Xi Jinping is another. Staking a claim to all the islands in the South and East China seas, moving masses of Han Chinese into Tibet and Uighur lands to swamp native peoples, purging old comrades for corruption, Xi is the strongest leader China has seen in decades.

He sits astride what may now be the world’s largest economy and is asserting his own Monroe Doctrine. Hong Kong’s democracy protests were tolerated until Xi tired of them. Then they were swept off the streets.

Call it Putinism. It appears to be rising, while the New World Order of Bush I, the “global hegemony” of the neocons, and the democracy crusade of Bush II seem to belong to yesterday.

Narendra Modi, leader of the Hindu nationalist party who was denied entry into the United States for a decade for complicity in or toleration of a massacre of Muslims is now Prime Minister of India.

“Members of the rightwing Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh,” the FT reports, “the Organisation of National Volunteers that gave birth to the Bharatiya Janata party headed by Mr. Modi — have been appointed to key posts in the governing party and cultural institutions.

“Nationalists have railed in public against the introduction of ‘western’ practices such as wearing bikinis on the beach, putting candles on birthday cakes and using English in schools — all to the chagrin of fretful liberals.”

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is another such leader.

Once seen as a model of the enlightened ruler who blended his Islamic faith with a secular state, seeking friendship with all of his neighbors, he has declared cold war on Israel, aided the Islamic State in Syria, and seems to be reigniting the war with the Kurds, distancing himself from his NATO allies and the U.S., and embracing Putin’s Russia.

Not since Ataturk has Turkey had so nationalistic a leader.

And as the democracy demonstrators were routed in Hong Kong, so, too, were the Tahrir Square “Arab Spring” demonstrators in Egypt, home country to one in four Arabs.

With the overthrow of Hosni Mubarak, the Muslim Brotherhood came to power in free elections, but was then overthrown by the Egyptian Army. General Abdul Fattah al-Sisi is now president and rules as autocratically as Mubarak, or Nasser before him.

Thousands of the Muslim Brotherhood are in prison, hundreds face the death penalty. Yet, despite the military coup that brought Sisi to power, and the repression, the American aid continues to flow.

What do these leaders have in common?

All are strong men. All are nationalists. Almost all tend to a social conservatism from which Western democracies recoil. Almost none celebrate democracy or democratic values the way we do.

And almost all reject America’s claim to be the “indispensable nation” or “exceptional nation” and superpower leader.

Fareed Zakaria lists as “crucial elements of Putinism … nationalism, religion, social conservatism, state capitalism and government domination of the media. They are all, in some way or another, different from and hostile to, modern Western values of individual rights, tolerance, cosmopolitanism, and internationalism.”

Yet not every American revels in the sewer that is our popular culture. Not every American believes we should impose our democratist ideology on other nations. Nor are Big Media and Hollywood universally respected. Patriotism, religion and social conservatism guide the lives of a majority of Americans today.

As the Associated Press reports this weekend, Putinism finds echoes across Central and Western Europe. Hungary’s Viktor Orban has said he sees in Russia a model for his own “illiberal state.”

The National Front’s Marine Le Pen wants to bring France into a new Gaullist Europe, stretching “from the Atlantic to the Urals,” with France seceding from the EU superstate.

“Of the 24 right-wing populist parties that took about a quarter of the European Parliament seats in May elections, Political Capital lists 15 as ‘committed’ to Russia,” writes the AP.

These rising right-wing parties are “partners” of Russia in that they “share key views — advocacy of traditional family values, belief in authoritarian leadership, a distrust of the U.S., and support for strong law and order measures.”

While the financial collapse caused Orban to turn his back on the West, says Zakaria, to the Hungarian prime minister, liberal values today embody “corruption, sex and violence,” and Western Europe has become a land of “freeloaders on the backs of welfare systems.”

If America is a better country today than she has ever been, why are so many, East and West, recoiling from what we offer now?

Pat Buchanan, VDARE 10 Comments [12/21/2014 1:33:22 PM]
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Quote# 105378

[These are excerpts from "questionnaires" that are supposed to be given to children contemplating marrying non-Jews.]

Do you or your potential spouse think it is wrong to aid in the destruction of an endangered species? How do you feel about aiding in the destruction of the Jewish people?

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If you are marrying a non-Jewish woman, does it bother you that your children will not be considered Jewish by the vast majority of Jews?

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If there is a major tragedy such as an airplane crash, do you read the list of victims to pick out the Jewish names?

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Do you realize that marrying a non-Jewish person essentially cuts you off from the Jewish people? Does that bother you?

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Are you aware that children of mixed-religious parentage often have an identity crisis? How do you plan to deal with your children's identity crisis?

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Do you think it is fair to create confusion in your children in an area so vital as their basic identity?

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Are you aware that frequently, Jews look at children of an intermarriage as non-Jews and non-Jews look at them as Jews?

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Are you aware of the higher rate of divorce amongst intermarried couples? What, in your opinion, accounts for this higher rate?

Rabbi Kalman Packouz, How to Stop an Intermarriage 24 Comments [12/20/2014 4:21:19 AM]
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Quote# 65821

Facts why Kent Hovind CANNOT be lying:

1) I have studied each topic and evidence he has presented, and I have found absolutely NO FLAW. All the facts he presents are all as accurate as the fact, Michael Jackson says Hee-Hee' in many of his songs.'

2) He's a? true God-fearing Christian. The average Christian doesnt WANT to lie, and Hovind has stated MANY times that he wants to be RIGHT all the time.

3) When you say he's a liar, you're either confused or you're deliberately lying yourself.

Eye2EyeIIIV, Youtube Comments 90 Comments [9/20/2009 7:59:02 AM]
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Quote# 93000

If religion was not real then why would people insist on atheism? I do not want to stereotype but most athiests i have met were gays. Yet they fail to notice that when they engage in sexual activity that goes against procreation they take part in a ritual that worships baal peor. Their flag has a relative symbol of that on the belly of baphomet (where a woman bears her child) thus being against procreation. If symbolism did not have such a powerful influence, would it be ok for your children to attend a kindergarten with nazi symbols all over the walls?

There are many people in this world who go about their day everyday without acknowledging their spirituality. Alot of people in this world are comfortable with this, some have never acknowledged measurement of themselves physically, emotionally, and in this case spiritually.

I have tested god in many ways, many sinful ways, when 'coincidences' happen too often i believe it is a miracle or the work of a spiritual being (oohh weee ooohh) My head was 10cm away from being crushed by a SUV type porsche while crossing great south road i tripped over. I have never believed in luck and i believe just as there is a god there is the devil or people involved in the devils work.

Erana Monica, topix New Zealand 78 Comments [3/6/2013 6:05:14 PM]
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Submitted By: Hasan Prishtina
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