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Quote# 119275

The following passage of Scripture evidences the typical type perversion of the Scriptures from the modern revisions translated from the Alexandrian Greek text (from Alexandria, Egypt). The reliable King James Bible, in sharp contrast, was translated from the Antiochan text (from Antioch, Syria). Notice in the following Bible verse from 1st Timothy 4:12 the drastic difference in meaning between the two Bibles:

KING JAMES BIBLE (KJB)—1st Timothy 4:12, “Let no man despise thy youth; but be thou an example of the believers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity.”

EASY-TO-READ VERSION (ERV)—1st Timothy 4:12, “You are young, but don’t let anyone treat you as if you are not important. Be an example to show the believers how they should live. Show them by what you say, by the way you live, by your love, by your faith, and by your pure life.”

The conjunction “but” in the King James Bible sheds light upon what “Let no man despise thy youth means.” Rather than being despised by society for being a delinquent youth, a troublesome punk, with lack of morals and no respect for others; the Bible admonishes Christian young people to exemplify Christlikeness, in speech, in behavior, in love, in spirit, faith and purity. This is what the King James Bible teaches. Don't let people despise you because of your heathen talk, dress and behavior.

In sharp contrast, the Easy-To-Read Version (ERV) doesn't make any sense at all. How could you stop others from not treating you like you are “IMPORTANT”? What a proudful wrong attitude to have . . . “I am young! I am important! You will respect me!” YOU LITTLE PUNK BRAT!!! That is exactly what is wrong with youth today. That is, they are arrogant brats, with no fear of God, and no respect for their elders or authority, and are as immoral and wicked as can be. Youth are greatly despised today. The Greek word for “despise” in 1st Timothy is kataphroneo, meaning, “to think against, disesteem.” Isaiah 3:12, “As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.” All across the United States today, punk gangs of youth are terrorizing our cities and towns. Millions of youth, roaming in street gangs, in every major American city are synonymous with drugs, murders, shootings, rapes, torture, and every crime imaginable. As with everything, the love of money fuels the drug-gang empire worldwide.

It is silly, ridiculous and senseless to interpret 1st Timothy 4:12 as not allowing anyone to make you feel “unimportant.” That cannot be stopped. It is clear that immoral Hollywood doesn't care about the spiritual growth of our youth. It is obvious that Walt Disney targets youth with satanic agendas, corrupting their good morals. It is obvious that the public school system doesn't care about our youth, indoctrinating them with the proven lies of evolution, denying God, and passing out condemns with classroom-instruction on how to have sex. Nearly every major American city now puts taxpayer-funded condemn dispensers in the schools for the youth to fornicate. Proper courtship before marriage is never taught to youth in government schools, nor by the secular media.

NOTE: Modesty of attire is not taught to young girls. Instead, most young girls and teens these days look like slutty prostitutes. We've got a bunch of DUMB MAMA's in America! While U.S. prisons are filling up with sex offenders, young girls are talking, dressing and behaving more sexy, sleazy and slutty than ever! Parents are mostly to blame! We live in an insane society today that thinks it is acceptable for girls and women to walk around sexy, nearly naked and promiscuous, while insanely wondering why there are more pedophiles and sex-offenders today than ever. Duh! What do you expect when you remove the Holy Bible from children's lives? (The Word of God has been banned since 1963 from all public schools) What do you expect when you tease men with a flesh-pot of lewd and sensual females everywhere in society today? What do you expect when you have filthy perverts like Taylor Swift corrupting our youth? If lawmakers, politicians and law-enforcement officials really wanted to rid society of the immoral influences destroying our youth, they could do it overnight. It's all about the love of money! Satan is the god of this world and he uses money to control people. Put the producers of indecency into the prisons! You ought to start with Los Angeles and Hollywood, because they are the number one producers of every form of filth on the planet! Americans are infatuated with sin, which is why wickedness is flourishing today in American society! Woe unto America! Judgment Day is coming! And when that dreadful time comes, we will get exactly what we deserve as a nation for forgetting God!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 23 Comments [5/27/2016 3:45:01 AM]
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Quote# 119267

on a poem describing how people use religion as an excuse to abuse and kill a gay boy

arrr come on... not every bully is an abused kid.

I hate gays, I have no shame in saying it, but still I don't abuse gays.

I have a gay friend, I tell him all the time that I hate the fact that he is gay... but his still my friend and I love him for who he is, not what his condition dictates him to be.

Your poem is stigmatizes of both gays and bullies.

just get over it, people are never going to accept gays.

and as God says, Hate the Sin not the Sinner

[ People actually are starting to accept gays, and I doubt that you actually "hate" gays, if so, your friend would not be your friend. So you hate the "sin", not the person themselves.

well I have abused gays in the past before... beated them up and spat at them...

and pretty sure I would do it again if I say a gay walking down my street.

but I can be in the same room with a gay and not take offence.. so it's a bit of a mixed end result

I don't care vary much for kids that get beaten up every day if they warrant their beatings by purposely acting gay.

Beating people up is healthy, it's only natural.

Look at nature, the weird wolf is always bitten and picked on.

So ya, if gays want to say it's nature, I'm going to say... beating you up is just a natural instinct too.

Precipitous120, Deviantart 11 Comments [5/27/2016 2:57:06 AM]
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Submitted By: Menomaru
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Quote# 119263

The truth is manmade evidence is not evidence.
No proof they went to the moon and walked on it in 1969.
Zilch, nada, nuffink.

Sassy, Religion and Ethics 15 Comments [5/27/2016 2:53:16 AM]
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Submitted By: Nearly Sane
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Quote# 119233

The article was a silly piece of low-grade, easily-recognized propaganda. In case Brian Hook is retarded and cannot make the jump from millions of voters (NOTE: The VOTERS are the Republican Party, not the few party leaders) agree, at least in part with The Donald, and could care less what cushy government jobs Brian Hook has held in the past or, more importantly, which ones he may or may not hold in the future. Those who have been feeding at the government trough, and actually believe what they think, believe or feel matters one iota to those of us who are the Republican Party are sadly mistaken. Let me add, I read only the first paragraph or two because I have read this article fifty times before, only the names are different. Please stop making your writers waste their time and ours by producing meaningless crap such as this tale of woe. Really. Please, just stop. Trump is the nominee and he will be the President and changes you do not like are going to be made. Grow up! The child-like antics are sickening.

Bennie Smith, Politico 12 Comments [5/26/2016 3:00:13 AM]
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Quote# 119244

Snobbery, homosexuality, anarchistic, paying no attention to national values, opposing Islam, ashamed of being a Muslim, pseudo-intellectual, pretentious and having an inferiority complex: These are the tenets some Muslims would like to ascribe to a new youth model. Some of them would like Muslim youth to have some of these attributes and some others all of them. They have a wrong-headed belief that being modern and acceptable in society requires such characteristics and therefore they are making an outstanding effort to turn the youth into this new “model”. Some of them are making such effort deliberately to damage the moral values of Islam and others are following them unconsciously just to catch up with the trend.

Among these new attributes, homosexuality seems to lead the field and thus it is promoted on all occasions as another human rights issue. Above all else, homosexuality is forbidden in Islam (7/80-82) and other Abrahamic religions (Leviticus 18/22, Romans 1/24-28) and in the stories of those who were punished for engaging in this perversion in the holy books (Qur’an, 15/68-75, 2 Peter 2/6-10, Leviticus 20/13). Some Muslim activists who promote homosexuality misinterpret these verses and lie by distorting the true meanings of the verses and explain them as if it was not homosexuality being condemned but coercion in sexual intercourse. They are elucidating the Qur’an with connotation; however the commands of God are not described through connotations – they are always clear and precise.

In some of today’s societies, being opposed to homosexuality is considered as embracing a bigoted mentality and thus many refrain from speaking out against it. Yet, the command against homosexuality is not something fabricated by the bigots put forth years after the Qur’an was revealed; it is forbidden by the Qur’an itself. Therefore, it’s not open to any other interpretations. It is important to note that we are against the homophobic actions some people engage in out of hatred such as assault or beatings or any other kind of misbehavior. In the extremist Islamic perspective, homosexuals are to be thrown from rooftops or exposed to physical assault, which we certainly condemn in no uncertain terms. When it comes to homosexuality, what we are against is the spiritual, moral and physical damage it imposes on societies, especially on children. The solution for this is absolutely not violence, but proper education.

As of late, homosexuality has increased to a great extent and those who oppose it or take a stand against it are considered abnormal and are isolated in society. Some homosexual activists promote same-sex marriage and their rights day and night in TV programs, newspaper columns and in social media. They endeavor to portray the homosexual way of life as ordinary, healthy and similar to typical heterosexual families. As a matter of fact, all this is no more than mere eyewash. Yet, homosexuality is indeed a very serious danger to society morally, physically and economically.

Approaching the issue from a moral perspective, in countries where same-sex marriage has been legalized, the concept of the family has been ruined and the number of illegitimate children being born has skyrocketed; to wit, in some areas in Scandinavia, 80% of children are born outside of a married family. Embracing homosexuality inevitably destroys social morality by distorting the nature of families and thus raising the children in an unvirtuous lifestyle. That is to say, it is not unpredictable to encounter higher rates of sexual molestation with homosexual parents. As per statistics, 29% of children had been particularly subjected to sexual molestation by that homosexual parent. We should bear in mind that the real number is astronomical; this is only the recorded percentage and there are indeed much more similar cases but the abused children are either too ashamed or too scared to report the incidents.

The mental health of homosexuals is also precarious. In accordance with a health report from the US, homosexuals are about 50% more likely to be subject to depression and engage in substance abuse than the rest of the general public and the risk of suicide is more than 200%. The median lifespan of a homosexual is 24 years shorter than that of a heterosexual person. Homosexuals tend to die in their early 50s or late 40s if AIDS is the cause of death, while heterosexuals tend to die in their mid 70’s.

It is an old story that AIDS is the primary cause of death of homosexuals. In a study in 2008 one in five homosexuals in 21 big US cities were infected with HIV and almost half of them were unaware of their infection. They are also prone to many other STD’s which are harmful both to themselves and the entire society. Being unaware of these infections, homosexuals are in a risk group of spreading the diseases extensively in a society through blood donations or injections or having significantly higher levels of promiscuity as one study shows that 28% of homosexuals have had more than 1,000 partners. Additionally, AIDS is damaging to the economy and to the governments that fight against it: In the US alone, government investment in the domestic response to HIV has risen to more than $24 billion per year.

This list of threats goes on forever and it is an obligation to raise public awareness in order to take the necessary precautions to foster a better and healthy environment. Our intention is to counsel these homosexual people to abandon the abnormality that affects them and the people around them and their activists to stop promoting it as if it is all a bed of roses, because it is not. Every human life matters in society and we are ready to work on the salvation of everyone. Especially these days supporting homosexuality is being presented as a way of promoting freedoms and enlightening people about these facts is one of the ways to reach it. Conscious people have to take the responsibility to brighten this darkness being imposed on Muslim communities before it is too late.

Harun Yahya, News Rescue 11 Comments [5/26/2016 2:27:51 PM]
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Quote# 119262

Says the animal about his creator...

See how stupid your answer really is...

Seems the only thing cross on here is your own inability to separate yourself from that which you are caretaker off, to that which is under the caretaker. Is it any wonder you cannot believe in your creator,

I am dealing with facts... We are not animals we gave the names to all individual species and lumped them altogether under the one title animals. The bible makes the clear distinction between man and animal.

I guess the donkeys only know how to eat their carrots because they cannot plough  the fields and sow their own.
Does that make man a different type of ass?

We all see why mankind is mankind and not an animal. Believe what you want because even an animal isn't dumb enough to pretend there is no difference between animals and humans.

Humans are not animals... here endeth the first lesson.

Sassy, Religion and Ethics 6 Comments [5/27/2016 2:52:23 AM]
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Submitted By: Nearly Sane
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Quote# 119237

These liberal, Democrat, judges, lawyers, politicians, and activists need to learn that if they continue on their path of destruction there will be physical consequences. Yes, you read that correctly. I am all for vigilante justice. Destroy my country, destroy my culture, destroy my history and heritage, destroy my religion and my beliefs, force me and my family to participate in that which I believe to be vulgar and perverse, endanger my children and you will find me to be a formidable adversary.

Bob G, Barbwire 28 Comments [5/26/2016 3:04:57 AM]
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Quote# 119254

let me tell all of my viewers my dream eternal life, that is, I wanna hang out with Jesus, kissing Him and eating His saliva while kissing Him all day long and all night long on Monday. Just melt down myself into the arms of Jesus on His gorgeous shirtless, immortal white skin chest.

And, on Tuesday, I wanna have a gorgeous Scarlett Johansson as my lovely newlywed wife and we do wild things all day long, because she’s not gotta be immortal in the New Millennium. She’s in earthly flesh. So, after a whole day bustling doing all the wild things such as … all naked, you know what I mean, I’ll let her go to bed, sleeping.

And, Wed. for Jesus, and Thurs. for her. Jesus and her take turns to be my lovers in every single week of my New Millennium eternal life. That’s perfect. Two lovers. Jesus and her. It’s just so perfect. My boyfriend and Husband, Lord Jesus Christ, an immortal gorgeous white man with a little bit sun-tan. My newlywed wife, a Scarlett Johansson I’m gotta meet in the New Millennium, is a gorgeous white woman with big boos, blonde hair, and blue eyes, so stunning beautiful, my No.1. favorite type of woman. Oh, baby, I’m gotta be the happiest man ever in the New Millennium with 2 lovers, Jesus and her, and I’m immortally gorgeous.

And, I’m gotta be very rich at that time, because I have the real ultra-richest super sugar daddy, Lord Jesus Christ. This is so extremely awesome, my dream eternal life in the New Millennium Era reigned by Jesus for 1000 years.

Actually, I’m Peter Alexander the Great. I’m truly Alexander the Great. oh baby, just my dream after browsing so many crazy news, I need some dream to sustain my horrified mind and heart.

usachinanukewar, All-out US-China nuclear war, looming, to wipe out one-fourths of the earth 23 Comments [5/26/2016 2:39:56 PM]
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Quote# 119265

(In response to the US Senate confirming the first openly gay soldier)

My first thought (vomit emoji) my second thought ("shaking head no" emoji) and my final thought (xed-out eyes emoji). This country is finished.

TimeWarpWife, Rapture Ready 38 Comments [5/27/2016 2:53:47 AM]
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Quote# 119274

Activists hoping to keep transgender people out of bathrooms just got a new ally: the Ku Klux Klan.

An Alabama neighborhood received fliers speaking out in support of laws like the one passed in North Carolina, that confine bathrooms to gender assignment at birth. They also begged for new recruits and solicit donations.

“It appears to be against transgender and transgender bathrooms and it was basically a recruitment flier,” Capt. Will Benny explained to the Dothan Eagle.

“What you’re dealing with is potentially implications of a hate crime or promoting a hate crime, so we notified the FBI,” reported Dothan Police Chief Steve Parrish.

Benny clarified there is no crime committed simply by distributing fliers, but he still forwarded it to the FBI for intelligence information.

“Obviously, any time you get hate-related material there’s a reason to be cautious and to investigate it,” Capt. Stacy Robinson said, emphasizing that the flier was also forwarded to the FBI as a precautionary measure.

The flier calls transgender people an “abomination” in accordance with the King James Bible, which never specifically refers to transgender people or gender identity. It also quotes Deuteronomy 22:5, “A woman shall not wear that pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment. For all that do are an abomination unto the Lord thy God.”

Appearing as though the Klan is coming out against women wearing pants, as well, the flier suggests trans people are endangering the safety of women and children by using the bathroom

A phone number is listed on it, as well as website, where allies to the KKK’s anti-transgender cause can make donations to the hate group.

It was signed by “The Loyal White Knights of the KKK.”

This is the second flier Alabama residents have received this month from the KKK. May 16, midtown Mobile got blanketed with KKK fliers. The same happened in Mississippi, just two days later.

Right-wing, transphobic Christians are flocking to Target stores to protest a new policy that allows people to use whatever bathroom that matches their gender identity.

Loyal White Knights of the KKK, Raw Story 14 Comments [5/27/2016 3:38:39 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom
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Quote# 119273

Utah lawmakers declared a public health crisis in a ceremonial bill April because they think residents are viewing too much pornography. But now, Todd Weiler, the same lawmaker who proposed the “health crisis” bill, announced legislation that would put statewide filters in place to ensure no Utah residents could view pornography.

Internet users would be required to contact their internet service provider to opt-out of the filter so they can view adult content, the Independent reports.

The Utah legislature is already out of session, but Weiler wants to get a start on next year’s slate of internet censorship laws so he is beginning this campaign as soon as possible. He claims he got the idea from the UK’s Coalition Government announcement in 2013 that made internet users opt-out of internet censorship, including porn filtering.

In an interview with the Salt Lake Tribune, he said: “I believe that pornography today is like tobacco was 70 years ago. 70 years ago people said tobacco’s not addictive and it’s not harmful, and that’s what some people are saying about pornography today. I happen to believe that it is addictive and it is harmful.”

Weiler believes pornography is a threat to traditional marriage. “It’s undermining relationships, and ultimately if someone gets divorced, that affects the government, because we end up with more children and spouses on government welfare.”

As any kid who grew up with internet filters knows, it’s relatively simple to circumvent restrictions, but the law concerns some First Amendment activists who are fearful it restricts free speech. However, Weiler claimed that the First Amendment also protected him from being forced to view ‘second-hand’ porn at McDonalds.

The majority of the state consists of members of the Church of Latterday Saints or Mormons, which has a track record of manipulating members into believing they are addicted to pornography when they aren’t. The church has a ban on the use of pornography, but has had no luck in shaming people away from viewing it. Utah residents are 50 percent more likely than other states to search for Mormon pornography on PornHub. Studies show that those who view pornography more than once a week have a tendency to be more religious.

Todd Weiler, Raw Story 18 Comments [5/27/2016 3:38:31 AM]
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Quote# 119266

(A response in a discussion about who "owns" a woman's uterus)

"It belongs to the baby. It's like a tenant renting [sic] house. The landlord let the tenant in and doesn't have a right to kill the tenant if the tenant won't leave."


kirkz2006@yahoo.com, Realabortiondebate 17 Comments [5/27/2016 2:56:47 AM]
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Quote# 119250


A police investigation into fraud and identity theft in Michigan involving an antigovernment “sovereign citizen” took a dramatic turn when police discovered what they described as a “house of horrors.”

Ryon Lenelle Travis was arrested last month when police executed a search warrant at the 32-year-old suspect’s Detroit home and found a 25-year-old woman with a chain around her neck, locked to a stripper pole.

A four-count indictment accused him of sexual exploitation of children; involvement with activities and material constituting child pornography and sex trafficking of children by force, fraud or coercion.

The woman, who has not been identified, told police she was one of four sex slaves living in the home that authorities described as a prison-like brothel run by Travis, the Chicago Tribune reported. She had been chained to the pole for two weeks as a punishment for attempting to escape, police said.

Authorities said the woman told them that Travis took her to a bank every month and forced her to turn over her $700 Social Security disability check to him.

The suspect called the women his “wives” and advertised on the Internet and in chat rooms that he had “four women for sale,” inviting cash-paying customers to the residence, the newspaper reported.

Police called the residence as a “house of horrors,” not only because of the sex slaves Travis kept, but because of suspected child sexual abuse that also occurred there, according to the newspaper report.

During the search of the residence, investigators found and seized two cell phones containing graphic images of a man sexually abusing children, a federal criminal complaint said.

One of the woman who had been held as a slave described Travis as a sovereign citizen. During a court appearance late last month, the defendant’s remarks to the judge seemed to back that description.

“It is against my religion to be represented by someone of another nation, so I may as well represent myself,” Travis told the court.

“I'm a natural-born human of the American land,” Travis said. “I choose not to do business with this court. I ask that this case be dismissed.”

The judge denied that request.

Ryon Travis, southern poverty law center 22 Comments [5/26/2016 2:29:59 PM]
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Quote# 119269

"The part that seems crazy to me is this: republicans don't want abortion legal, yet they also want no programs to help poor and homeless children."


Republicans controlled the White House and both houses of Congress from January 2001 until January 2007. Please explain how all these programs not only survived all those years of complete Republican control, but actually had their budgets steadily and substantially increased each year.

This should be good. Or you can just run away and pretend you didn’t read this.

Paul, we are all products of our environment. I am routinely described as the “American Taliban” or a “Christofascist” on discussion threads such as this one, and accused of waging a “war on women.” The comments from militant feminists are frequently snide, cynical and hostile, as exemplified here by Jae Peters.

Turnabout is fair play.

Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

What goes around, comes around.

Dean Hinnen, NPR 9 Comments [5/27/2016 2:59:52 AM]
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Quote# 119270

"Look at the stuff that Romney, Lindsey Graham, and other top Republicans are STILL saying about Trump ..."

But none of them are accusing him of authoritarianism. Only the liars of the left-wing fringe are doing that. In fact, the Trump victory in the primaries was a triumph over authoritarianism -- the authoritarianism of the GOP establishment.

Republicans say horrible things about their rivals during the primaries. Democrats also say horrible things about their rivals during the primaries. The "Willie Horton" meme used so effectively against Mike Dukakis (D) in 1988 was first presented by Al Gore (D).

Political catfighting has never been pretty on either side of the aisle. This year, the most effective memes to be used against Hillary Clinton (D) are coming from the supporters of Bernie Sanders (D).

But the point of my post, John, is that it isn't the Republicans accusing Trump of authoritarianism. It's the liars of the left-wing fringe.

Dean Hinnen, NPR 8 Comments [5/27/2016 2:59:57 AM]
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Quote# 119125

Socialist Fight’s position on Israel/Palestine; the Jewish Question


What slogans for the struggle?

Whilst we are for a multi-ethnic workers’ state we are sensitive to the role that democratic demands might play in the revolutionary struggle. Demands for a constituent assembly and the fight for secular democratic rights are very likely to play a prominent part in the revolution but we know that these must be subordinate to the goal of overthrowing capitalism in Israel/Palestine but also in the entire region of the Middle East. Therefore the governmental slogan and the demands that lead up to it are important. For a Revolutionary Constituent Assembly is the correct mobilising slogan to draw together all the elements and nationalities in the region to begin the battle for workers councils and a soviet government. We reject the ultra-leftist notion that a revolutionary programme cannot contain such democratic demands as part of its whole strategy. Such a position rejects the attempts by the revolutionary party to relate to the current state of the class consciousness of the working class and the fight to bring it into the struggle which alone opens it up to the revolutionary programme as a whole.

Smash of the settler-colonial state of Israel!

For a revolutionary Constituent Assembly!

For Workers Councils united across religious and ethnic divides!

For a Multi-ethnic Workers State of Palestine in a Socialist Federation of the Middle East!

For Workers Sanctions against Israel!

Sever all links between the Histadrut and all international trade union organisations!

Defends Hamas against the Zionist state!

For the military victory of the anti-imperialist guerrilla organizations Hamas and Hezbollah in Palestine, Lebanon and Syria!


It is our contention that the “Jewish Labour movement” and its handmaiden the ‘Labour Friends of Israel’ are in fact racist, communalist organisations that exist to incite racial hatred against Arabs within Labour and to build support for murdering and ethnic cleansing of Palestinian civilians. Far from proscribing anti-racist, socialist organisations such as Socialist Fight, Labour should be proscribing these racist currents, which are a fifth column within Labour for Israel and Israel-supporting currents, and to put it bluntly a bunch of far-right murdering racists.

The ‘Friends of Israel’ groupings work closely with each other. This was shown in the witchhunt against comrade Downing, when David Cameron (Conservative Friends of Israel) and his shady friend Guido Fawkes (Paul Staines) exhibited such synergy with our own ‘Friends of Israel’ (see the Hutton investigation quoted above) in demanding comrade Downing’s expulsion. These organisations in Britain are smaller versions of AIPAC in the United States, whose power is feared by politicians of all parties. As shown by the fact that both Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump attended its recent convention, and engaged in a kind of Dutch Auction as to who could express the most extreme pro-Israel policies, including things like recognising Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, and tearing up Obama’s deal with Iran with a view to military attack.


This is also very evident in the Tory Party in the UK, whose right-wing in the pre-war period was anti-semitic and pro-Hitler. The leader of the section of the right of the Tory party who was most consistently anti-Hitler, Winston Churchill, was a notorious anti-semite. Their exact equivalents today are philo-semitic, pro-Israel and anti-Arab. And with the phenomena of Blairism, where considerable elements of the Labour right are politically very similar to Tories, the consequences for Labour are also not hard to deduce. We believe that this is one important reason why the Labour Party under Jeremy Corbyn has been targeted for smears, disinformation and destabilisation by right-wingers within Labour who are in many cases ‘Friends of Israel’ and work with the Tories and their media (which also happen, not coincidentally, to be pro-Zionist), again as demonstrated in the Hutton document quoted above. And the witchhunt against Socialist Fight and Gerry Downing is a key part of that.

Gerry Downing, Socialist Fight (Liaison Committee for the Fourth International) 13 Comments [5/21/2016 4:04:29 AM]
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Quote# 119060

(In response to, "Should animals be abused?")

Animals are simple property. This is an issue that is a major problem in western civilization, too often are animals humanized and thus people think they relate to them so they give them rights similar to a human. Here are some simple points as to why animals have zero rights.

Firstly I will ask a question: is nailing a cat to a door a crime?
- Nailing a cat to a door is not a crime because laws are meant to protect humans from humans, in the case of a cat nailed to a door then no human is getting injured. However is the individual was to nail a cat to a door in a public setting then it could be seen as upsetting the peace. But if the individual does this it in private he can not be charged with anything a as he is free to do what he likes. Why should we spend money to arrest and imprison an individual who hurts animals? By taking this human out of society we are eliminating a productive human out of society. Sure the cat will feel pain but animals do not even feel pain like we do, and who cares is the cat suffers I don't care if the cutest cat ever is suffering the most horrible pain the universe can create, it is not human and we shouldn't care about it as a species. If you want to go ahead light your dog on fire I wouldn't care or judge, it is the same as lighting a tree on fire (except this 'tree' screams). This is why cats and other animals are undeserving of rights and humans are. Nailing a cat to a door is not a crime.

Second point animals are simple entities and thus are the same as rocks. Animals do not have the ability to ration or sustain a society. By definition they are not even conscious. They serve no purpose to society. So laws are in place to protect humans and society, if this dog poses a direct threat to a human it should be eliminated no question. Because they fail at all task that society throws at them then animals have no rights and are only entities that can support themselves (but due to the rock cycle animals are no better). What separates us from them is our ability to create an advancing society and our ability to ration. Until another species can appoint their own representative then I will not care about them and I will continue to be for their torture. Still this does not give an individual the permission to hurt another individuals property (or animals) because they do not own it.

Third let's not confuse a single animal from an ecosystem. An ecosystem serves many purposes to humanity and thus should be supported by law. An ecosystem provides the planet with oxygen and water two vital aspects of life. However your common dog does nothing to the environment so it has no rights.

Conservative12, Debate.Org 38 Comments [5/19/2016 2:41:40 AM]
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Quote# 119257

I don't care how they look. If there is a high percentage of individuals from a particular region of world; regardless of religion, color, sex, or heritage, and these individuals have a higher percentage probability of a terror attack, these individuals should be excluded.

Little is known of the immigration policies during the Ellis Island days. They most definitely segregated individuals; in their case, those that might hold the probability of becoming a public charge.

The nationalist hate wave you speak of is the sound of individuals stating we don't need another "most popular flavor" of extremism to take root on our shores. Muslim anti-pluralism is the antithesis of what America stands for, and their penchant to use violence is something we would do best without.

So you're an apologist for a bigoted misogynistic religion bent on censorship and suicide-assassination by admitting less than similar examples from other religions?
Dismissing the advocates and apologists of bigotry and censorship and suicide-assassination cannot be permitted to take shelter any longer under the umbrella of a pluralism that they openly seek to destroy; and those that defend these people need to be called out.
Don't kid yourself. The most toxic form of religion is the Islamist form with the horrible idea to end up with a religion based Sharia law, with the best means of getting there is jihad. They feel they have a specific right to feel aggrieved and use all means necessary to achieve their ends.

Islam was founded by a marginally literate warlord from divine revelation and proclaim it as the last and final. Gods last word. Straight away this a temptation toward violence and intolerance. A temptation they have proven all too willing to comply with. This violent approach to achieve their ends is most definitely fascism.

Shore Break, NPR 11 Comments [5/26/2016 2:40:11 PM]
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Quote# 119236

"Men never commit evil so fully and joyfully as when they do it for religious convictions." Blaise Pascal

Blaise Pascal was a Christian. He knew that idolatry (making up false gods--a violation of the First and the Second of the Ten Commandments) has historically been the basis for great evils.

Evils such as the Spanish Inquisition--Roman Catholics killing Christians for their faith in Jesus, rather than in the Roman Catholic Church.

And Adolf Hitler--committing atrocities in the name of God. But both fall way short of atheism, which (through atheistic communism) resulted in the slaughter of 110,000,000 human beings.

Ray Comfort, Atheist Central 21 Comments [5/26/2016 3:02:36 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris
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Quote# 119243

Families are the fundamental building blocks of society. In order for a society to flourish and remain healthy, the family should consist of a father and a mother who are able to produce and give rise to children. However, there is a rising trend in many Western countries, which is intrinsically in contradiction to what is considered a normal society: same-sex marriage. As of late, being modern and classy in society requires freedom, which is definitely true, but according to the changing western cultures and values that includes acceptance of same-sex marriage. Furthermore, many activists promote homosexuality as another human rights issue that must undeniably be protected. Some endeavor deliberately to oppose religious values and merits while some are misguidedly following them in order to be hip, modern, trendy and in tune with their notion of what a new modern culture should consist of. They are usually unaware of the damage it is imposing on society, especially on children and the young generation.

Accordingly, homosexual activists use every opportunity they get in order to spread their homosexual lifestyles both within their communities and outside their communities. The media seems to be the leading tool used to disseminate and justify their argument. Homosexual lifestyle and those promoting such rights are increasingly finding support and legitimization in the US via Hollywood movie and television shows, TV programs, reality shows, fashion related shows, news reports, columns, music videos, books, magazines and the list goes on. They intend to portray homosexual behavior as quite ordinary, healthy, and culturally hip. To intensify their argument, some activists depict homosexuals as very healthy, fit, good looking, classy, and successful people with executive professions within communities and societies. With the effect of these tools supporting the culture of homosexuality, 20% of Americans claim TV has shifted their opinion on the side of new form of marriages. Regrettably, in film and in the fashion industry people support homosexuality in order to get higher positions. The fact is however that reshaping marriage and marketing homosexuality are a grave danger to society via morality, physically and economically.

I feel it is important to remind the readers why I write this article. As a matter of fact, the purpose of this article is to remind young people not to fall into this brainwashing trap and to keep the strong spiritual values to have for an honorable life; in this way the members of society who pay heed to morals will respect them in the appropriate way. Therefore, it is everyone's responsibility to disclose the heinous and abhorrent acts that are deemed to be in compliance with this "new way" of life style all wrapped up in the name of human rights. Most importantly, homosexuality is strictly forbidden in the divine religions (Koran 7/80-82, Bible Romans 1/24-28) and in the stories of the holy books people who engaged in such indecency mentioned in the holy books were penalized (Koran 15/68-75, Bible2 Peter 2/6-10).

Considering the matter in terms of morals and ethics, we encounter a higher rate of child molestation in same-sex couple households. It is a moral obligation to protect the interests of helpless children in our society. Extensive researches show that children of same-sex parents are more likely to experience sexual confusion and to engage in homosexual activities themselves that will eventually cause them to suffer from psychiatric disorders, substance addiction, sexual assault, suicide, and sexually transmitted diseases such as AIDS. In the US alone, government investment in the domestic response to HIV has risen to more than $24 billion per year.

For this reason, it is alarming to view the statistics in terms of same-sex marriage and the increase in the number of children they adopt. For example, 94,627 children live with homosexual couples in the US and the estimated total number of children living with at least one homosexual parent range from 6 to 14 million. Similarly in the UK, as of March 2015, the number of adopted children by gay parents skyrocketed in the last 12 months reaching a record high. There have been many recorded cases of sexual molestation of boys by their homosexual parents and many more unrecorded because they are ashamed or afraid to report it. Thus, it is important to note Pavel Astakhov's - Russian Ombudsman for Children's Rights - evocative comments regarding the molestation cases of same-sex couples in an interview: "Russian orphans always attracted foreign perverts because of accessibility. The foreigners were simply coming and taking children for money." In conjunction with this report, Russia made some adjustments on adoption of Russian children by foreign families banning American citizens from adopting Russian children in 2012 and in the following year the State Duma passed a law that banned the adoption of Russian children by foreign homosexual couples. It makes us wonder about the psychological trauma these little children suffer. The first step to overcome this situation is to train children in terms of this threat they may experience. Children starting from the age 4-5 should be informed very meticulously regarding this issue; they should learn to take the necessary precautions to protect themselves and never hesitate to report the sexual abuses they undergo as it is not their fault and not an act they should be ashamed of.

In order to receive acceptance and compassion from society, homosexuals argue with some illogical excuses to justify their indecent acts such as claiming they have high estrogen levels or that they are genetically born that way. Yet, all these assertions have been refuted through scientific studies. There is no significant difference of estrogen or testosterone levels between homosexual and straight men. Also researchers have not found any supporting evidence that people who are homosexuals are somehow genetically dispositioned to be so. There is no genetic evidence whatsoever. Eight major studies of identical twins in Australia, the US, and Scandinavia during the last twenty years all conclude the same point, that homosexuals are not born genetically that way. It should be kept in mind that even if they were right, none of these would justify their indecent behavior. A person may be born without any sex or with two sexes or with some physical sexual defects but they do not constitute justification to behave in an indecent way. A person is responsible to keep their chastity on every occasion in order to live an honorable life.

Everyone should feel the responsibility to raise public awareness in order to have a better social and living environment by considering the examples and evidence enumerated in this article. It is crucial to inform and educate people about the serious negative effects of homosexuality on them and their environment. Besides, the activists should end promoting it as if it is something enviable because the truth is indeed on the contrary. However, it is important to stress that I am completely against violent and barbaric actions against homosexuals since what we are opposed to is only the abnormal acts they do. Therefore, people of good should join forces to protect against the damages which homosexuality inflicts on society as a whole.

Harun Yahya, Harun Yahya 27 Comments [5/26/2016 3:12:44 AM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives
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Quote# 119253

This is good news for America. Europe is already lost. Elections like this will only make their demise that much quicker. That will allow us to watch and learn from their experience. We have already learned so much from the rapes in cologne and the way things are unraveling in Sweden. Most lefties don't have the wherewithal to understand the deadly consequences of their naive policies perhaps watching Austria disappear into the abyss will help them understand.

Goforbroke, NPR 7 Comments [5/26/2016 2:39:41 PM]
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Quote# 119268

Wrong. Check out the results of a half century of uninterrupted liberal control in some of our largest cities, such as Chicago, Los Angeles, New Orleans and Baltimore. Fascist police practices are alive and well in those cities.

This court is functioning just fine with eight justices. Minority petitioners won reversals by a vote of 7-1. Replacing Scalia with someone even more conservative would have made it 8-1.

But yes, replacing Scalia as well as Breyer and Ginsburg (both well past retirement age) with three conservatives would be awesome. Vote Republican. Or stay home like the Bernie Bros.

Dean Hinnen, NPR 4 Comments [5/27/2016 2:58:35 AM]
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Quote# 119168

[On the Senate confirming the first openly gay Army secretary.]

Please be assured that whatever service this openly gay man performs, he must do it darn well in order to obtain the unanimous approval of EVERY single U.S. Senator. The soldiers in the trenches will be comforted to know that Fanning has their back sides, too. Someone may have to tell him that “rainbow” is not a form of camo.

Homesick777, Rapture Ready 14 Comments [5/22/2016 1:49:56 PM]
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Quote# 118603

Society has gone completely insane.

One of the hallmarks of mental health is to accept the circumstances in life that cannot change, which is why a man who claims to be Napoleon is deemed mentally unstable. One of the goals of any psychiatrist would be to guide that would-be Napoleon to accept the fact that he is not Napoleon. Sexual identity is fixed at conception: a person who is born biologically as a male or female -- with the rare exception of those born with sex chromosome disorders -- is male or female, and always will be, regardless of his or her so-called "gender identity". So, any "sex change" operation, no matter how skillful or elaborate, does not change that fact, a fact that is evident in every one of the trillions of cells in the transsexual's body, which will still show as being XX (female) or XY (male) under a microscope.

A "transsexual" can never become what he or she wants to be, and any "doctor" who would maim people who want to "transition" to the opposite sex is no health care provider and should be stripped of his medical license and be put in prison for a long, long time. How is this different from apotemnophilia?

That more and more segments of society refer to transsexuals (those who have had "sex-change" operations, which are nothing more than expensive, elaborate, and permanent Halloween costumes) and transgenders (wannabes of the opposite sex who have a warped sense of their "gender identity") as actually having become the opposite sex makes me feel like the little boy in the story "The Emperor’s New Clothes" and blows my mind! You can make a sign that says "Cow" and put it on a horse but, no matter what happens and no matter how many people believe the animal with the sign on it is a cow, it is still a horse. Society has gone completely mad! And wow, how fast it has! What an Alice in Wonderland world we now live in!

GreggKB, Charisma News 19 Comments [4/30/2016 4:18:42 AM]
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Quote# 119234

The article was on the difficulty Muslim entrepreneurs face when finding investors for their businesses.

Muslims have proved they're good at one thing and one thing only--killing. That's not a very desirable commodity in these parts. How does anybody lending a Muslim money know that the Muslim won't wake up one day and decide that 72 virginal shrews are pretty companions for a corpse? They don't really protest the extremists in their midst.

Sheila McRae, Mashable 10 Comments [5/26/2016 3:00:24 AM]
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