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Quote# 134271



Sierra _, Tom Resendez DC and Sara _, Facebook 6 Comments [11/17/2017 3:03:44 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 134181

Fundies Say The Dardest Things is a M16 controlled website to discredit my exposing of the great conspiracy! 

M16 agents on Fundies Say The Dardest Things post my articles on The Reformation Online onto this site because the site’s title makes it seem like the people who’s posts end up here are crazy! 

Fundies Say The Dardest Things want me to seem crazy to prevent people from taking my words about Joshua of Nazareth, the Flat Earth, the Jesuits, and the British seriously. 

When Joshua of Nazareth claimed to be the messiah, the Pharisees tried to discredit him by calling him crazy. However he gained so many followers that they decided to crucify him. 

Joshua of Nazareth lived in the Roman Empire. The British Empire was established in 313 AD when Druid Jesus Constantine became Emperor. The British learned of the strategy of discrediting their opponents from the Romans. 

Jesus Constantine created the Latin Church. The Papacy has been controlled by the British Secret Service from it’s creation. 

The Pharisees originally mocked Joshua the Messiah but Joshua gained so many followers that they decided to crucify him. The British Empire will eventually send James Bond to assasinate me for exposing their conspiracy. 

But I will not cower in fear to the British. I will continue to expose the diabolical conspiracy and preach the truth about the messiah to save the souls of those who read my site from Hades.





Patrick Scrivener, CSTDT Comment 94 Comments [11/14/2017 5:42:18 AM]
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Submitted By: FSM

Quote# 134226

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Roy Moore urges US to 'come back to God,' dismisses sex assault allegations"

Brethren, please continue to pray for Judge Moore. The alt-left is attempting to tarnish his name, but God is faithful. One of their go-to tactics to take down conservative Christians is to deceive, manipulate, create chaos where there is none and flat-out lie. They have no integrity. In fact, I too have been accused of rape by Peewee a pathetic, alt-left 'online' troll. Note: I've never met the guy before. Yes, lol, a lost young man accused me of "raping him":

(repost of the 4-month old "Censorship is rape and you Lady Checkmate are a rapist" quote-picture)

The unethical and mentally unstable alt-left do crazy things that doesn't make sense to sane people, like accusing a Christian conservative they've NEVER met of raping them because they can't accept disagreement.

(cut-and-paste of Fox News story originally posted here: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/14/roy-moore-urges-us-to-come-back-to-god-downplays-sex-assault-allegations.html)

Don't forget to RECOMMEND. Lets get the Truth out so that Light may shine bright in this dark place and Jesus Christ may be glorified. Even if the discussion is closed, please still RECOMMEND.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - Faith & Religion 6 Comments [11/17/2017 2:52:28 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 134222

Silas Jennings:
“Science has been proving the Bible correct for decades”
Source please? We know Noah’s flood was impossible, that snakes cannot talk and let’s not get started about Jonah...

Amos Moses:
back at cha ..... Source please? .......

Silas Jennings:
You shouldn't need one unless you possess the answer about how those two penguins walked all the way from Antarctica, but this is a good starting place:
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Global_flood

Amos Moses:
penguins can SWIM .... next ........ and FYI ..... there were more than 2 ......

Silas Jennings:
I see. And the kangaroos hopped?

Amos Moses:
kangaroos can also swim ...... need the video? ...... and you are making assumptions NOT based in science and on YOUR desire to believe what you want to believe .......... FAIL ............

Silas Jennings:
The video of two kangaroos taking a little transcontinental swim? Yes please. And penguins too if you don’t mind.
Do take your time. I think you’re going to be a while.

Amos Moses:
AGAIN .... you are making ASSUMPTIONS not based on any facts .... just what you want to believe .... you have no evidence it was a "transcontinental swim" ..... and penguins spend MONTHS at sea except for when they lay eggs and hatch ..... so "long swims" .... EASY .....

Amos Moses, Christian News Network 11 Comments [11/17/2017 2:47:56 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 134296



Unknown, Neatorama 15 Comments [11/17/2017 4:00:24 AM]
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Submitted By: Hu’s On First

Quote# 134229

You mentioned on PAH that you have your own opinions on the morality surrounding necrophilia and zoophilia. I'm curious, what do you think?



ok, hi there! So well, be ready for some little controversy, I guess :P

First of all I would like to state a general and short view of my moral conceptions. I’m a moral nihilist, in the sense that I don’t think that there is a superior moral system that rules them all and that is objective and natural and everyone should follow by the law of god or any other superior power. I think morals are a social construct, based in a specific culture and society and that changes over time, but that aren’t based in any objective source. The common things you can find in different societies are easily explained by some kind of “societies darwinism”. Mostly, the societies that follow a moral system where they take care of their own people and punish some stuff (as murdering of your own, for example) have more chances to survive that a society without morals where everything is fair game. That kind of society is self-destructive, so every human society groups towards some basics due to survival instintics, but not because those are the objective, good things. Some times a society morals can be, in fact, pretty harmful for some individuals even if they truly believe that is the right way to go, the logic and natural order.

So, going from this, I think a moral system is needed, of course. For the good of both, individuals and society survival and wellbeing. As I have said, an ‘everything is fair game’ society is a condemned society. But if we don’t have an objective moral, not a power superior to men to tell us what is wrong and what is right and traditional values are exposed as old constructs that can easily being wrong, what can we do? Well, my solution is created a moral of consense, a moral based in the best for everyone. And that is where my morals stands. My rules are easy. Every situation should be judged carefully and individually, they aren’t real moral statements or absolute truths aside a couple of things “every action should be consensual” and “something is wrong if it causes you or anyone else an involuntary harm”. And even these things have exceptions in some extreme or specific situations (I can provide you with examples if you want to, I love discussing morals!).

Now, making this clear (and if you have any question or don’t understand something ask me, no fear ^^) I’ll give you my thoughts around these two issues, that can be kinda out of the morals of our current society.

-Necrophilia: I don’t think this is inherently immoral in any way. I dont see corpses as people. They aren’t human beings, they are, in a strict sense, a piece of meat. Of course, there is a big taboo about this for different reasons. We have the obvious one, people who still see the bodies as their loved ones and feel it as an attack to them, a disrespectful action. We also have the fear of death and the general taboo that it has (people who don’t even want to talk about death, people who are scared to go for a walk into a cemetery, people who look at you as a weirdo for liking “dark” things and gothic literature… there are plenty of this). And adding to that, we have misconceptions about the problems it can give you (diseases. People associate corpses with disease and this is normal, since humanity has gone through a lot of epidemics and the cultural memory about it remains. But the reality is different. If someone wasn’t sick before death they aren’t dangerous as a corpse. People still don’t understand this).

So, summarizing, I don’t think there is something inherently immoral about necrophilia. I don’t think these actions are something wrong itself. However, we need to understand our context and the effect of our actions. I don’t have this taboo, I think it is absurd and just a norm that comes from a sex-negative, scared of the death society that I don’t agree with. But I understand that not everyone is like me. That for some people it would be harmful, that they wouldn’t want this for their loved ones, so, and since you live in a specific context and our actions have consequences in real people’s lifes, you can’t just have sex with random corpses. Not because it is immoral, but because it can harm someone else (not the corpse, the corpse is not a person anymore).

I think the best way to go over this is educating people about why it isn’t harmful or immoral, explain the taboo and maybe someday we get a society where this isn’t seem as terrible and awful and people can have sex with corpses (I have always thought in some kind of necrocard, you know, like for organ donations, consent to necrophilic sex before die so the problem of consent gets solved. I know from plenty of people who wouldn’t care to give their corpses for this. It isn’t such a crazy idea after all).

-Zoophilia: I can feel this one is going to bring even more controversy up. But well, here we go. I don’t think every action in every case of sexual interaction with an animal is wrong. Harming an animal for pleasure is wrong. I don’t support animal abuse and zoosadism in any way. I believe that animals are living beings with a sense of pain and they deserve to be respected and treated properly. You can kill animals for eating. That is understable and natural. Killing them for fun is something I don’t approve. Causing them pain for fun is something I don’t approve either.

But now, about sex. Sex with an animal is not always something violent or traumatic as we could think. Sex is not inherently harmful and wrong just because it is sex. Also, animals *can* consent in a way. Of course, they can’t tell you what they want, but you can understand their reactions. It is obvious when an animal is distressed or in pain, when an animal is scared or uncomfortable and then you know something is wrong. It is obvious too when an animal is happy and feeling good, when an animal is comfortable and wants something. This applies to sex too. If the sex is unwilling, painful, distressful or hurts the animal in any way I’m against it. But if the animal is comfortable, seeks it, it’s ok and doesn’t get hurt I don’t see the problem. For example (*cw: for explicit stuff*, maybe?), if a girl puts some jam on her genitals and let a dog licks it to get sexual pleasure, where is the harm? Or a dog topping a man, how does the dog suffer? (*end of cw*) Also, we have to remember that some animals are proved as being specially anthropophilics (dolphins and dogs are prominent examples), that means they are sexually aroused by humans. They want to have sex with humans. And interspecies sex is not that weird either (and we get hybrids from it).

So, the summary here, I think if the sex is not harmful for the animal (not physically, not emotionally, like causing pain, distress, angst, fear…) and the animal shows signs around it of being comfortable and fine then it isn’t wrong. Of course, the person would be the responsable and would need to pay attention to all the animal’s reactions and notify any problem and stop it that happens. But doing properly, I don’t think it is wrong. (Ah, and if someone’s argument is ‘but sex with humans/like that is inherently traumatic for the animal! They are rape victims in every case and they suffer trauma for it’ I have to say that no, animals don’t have that conception about sex that humans have. They are animals. They don’t have the psychological development to have beliefs about sex or cultural conceptions of it. That is purely a human thing).

Well, these are mostly my thoughts, if you want to ask something else or need I make something clear or any other thing, just go for it, I’m always happy to reply :)

Tags: #anon #asks #morals #zoophilia #necrophilia #opinions #answer #me #sex positivity

Aleskakolja, Tumblr 4 Comments [11/17/2017 2:58:18 AM]
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Quote# 134235

Matt Drudge is gayer than a French trombone. I'm sure that he has participated in many a practice that would make decent people squirm with revulsion. He has no evidence against Judge Moore, merely unsubstantiated allegations and smears. I suspect gay boy Matt Drudge is having a tantrum because Moore won't sanction Matt's ungodly debauched lifestyle.

Governor Dinwiddie, Free Republic 9 Comments [11/17/2017 2:59:28 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134272

I think enough is enough I don't have any particular religious leanings, but I was schooled in Christian schools.I don't think more mosques should be allowed to be built we have had one open not too long ago and it seems the more they build the more people move into your area but at least there are no minarets in Lancaster yet I really feel sorry for your people in Golders Green but how do you stop these people infiltrating area's which is what has been happening for years now, why can't we have our own country back.

Yvonne Walker, Facebook 1 Comments [11/17/2017 3:04:40 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134273

This page is written in a very naive way which assumes that "coercion" occurs as some aberrant behaviour practiced by a tiny minority. No, strict religion *is* coercion. The clue's in the name - Islam means Submission, i.e. Submission to God, i.e. specifically, in the case of Islam, Submission to Sharia Law. It's the same mistake as those Arab hijabis who claim that they freely chose to wear a Hijab. Well no because their whole culture is making them believe that if they don't wear a hijab, they are sluts. It's an oppressive culture.

Of course, even though Namazie is an atheist, this point of view is a little extreme, so that's why she couches it in terms of rights. But the reality is, Muslim women will only be truly free when they become apostates. Arbitration or no arbitration

Greenrd, RationalWiki 2 Comments [11/17/2017 3:05:34 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134303

Adolf Hitler actually created the first anti-animal cruelty laws in history, was a vegetarian, and had plans to close all slaughterhouses in Germany through legislation he created. The holocaust lie was created and is perpetuated by the very same animal abusers he was peacefully exiling from his country before they declared war on him. The amount of propaganda and disinformation that has been spread about "gas chambers" and "mass graves" etc. is all dispelled in my documentary "Adolf Hitler vs. The Jew World Order," if it hasn't been censored in your country (it is now banned in 30 countries). You can also learn the truth by watching "The Greatest Story Never Told." Thanks to everyone who takes the time to look into this most important subject. Peace?

Eric Dubay, Youtube 8 Comments [11/17/2017 11:24:18 AM]
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Submitted By: hydrolythe

Quote# 134297

You have to understand, your actions, set an example to other whites. You could have had a white child, who could go on and produce another white child, and so on. If every male, divorced his non-white women, married a white women and produced children that= more whites. At current rates, the white male/females really, can't afford to be selfish and a policy of mixed-race marriages being forbidden, would help immensely.

From a Christian perspective, god hates race-mixing, multiculturalism, and diversity. It is , literally , a pagan practice of Baal worship.

ShinnSeedMode, Reddit 10 Comments [11/17/2017 4:01:15 AM]
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Quote# 134225

Andrew Anglin, hounded and hunted man and proprietor esq. of the The Daily Stormer, the world’s foremost censored and suppressed pro-White website, is featured in an Atlantic article titled “The Making of an American Patriot“.

An excerpt reveals that Anglin is a member of the Thot Police, a ZFG Guardian of Ground Floor Girls, and Destroyer of Friendzones.



Classic case of a regret rape cheating ho who wanted her boyfriend to validate her desired victimhood and excuse her sluttery, which Anglin sniffed out and smartly called out. My bet is he saved himself a lot of heartache down the road.

(For those new to this crimson-hued degree of realtalk, girlfriends don’t roll solo to parties and get black-out drunk unless they are entertaining notions of cheating. Last I checked, women still have moral agency and a primordial sense of personal responsibility.)



Anglin confirmed for harem whip hand. Game recognized.



CLEANSED OF SOY
ANGLIN ASPIRED
TO BE A BAD GOY
“CLEANSE IT WITH FIRE”

The Atlantic article went to great lengths to exaggerate Anglin into a national security risk, the bastard child of Putin and Lucifer. Clearly the author, Luke O’Brien, is unfamiliar with how girls normally react to rule-breaker badboys with crazy adventurous life stories taking on the entire Globohomo establishment.



Too bad I couldn’t verify a photo of Luke O’Brien to confirm my hunch about his physiognomy.

CH, Chateau Heartiste 5 Comments [11/17/2017 2:50:55 AM]
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Quote# 134298

Citizen:
.....you clowns don't make it very easy to like you. Some still want to re-litigate the US Civil War. Get a life that matters!

Lady Checkmate:
It's the alt-left that wants to re-litigate civil rights. They want to cover life style choices and are requesting that civil rights be eliminated if they're choices aren't covered. So, it seems your offense is misdirected...it's the alt-left attacking us marginalized minorities.
*My life matters to God :)

Citizen:
.....how about you be you and let them be them? We'll just keep it simple.

Lady Checkmate:
Who asked "them" not to be "them"? I haven't put demands on anyone regarding their life style choices.
My point was, you accused the wrong people of wanting to re-litigate civil rights (and actually some of them may want to as well), but those making that specific demand are those wanting to be covered by the right as well-as mentioned in the comment above. Please think on that sir and let me know how it feels to be manipulated and have our ancestor's experiences pimped and manipulated by very selfish people pushing a very specific agenda that also targets, harasses and persecutes Christians. Not cool, right.

Citizen:
.....lol, do they want my guns ???

Lady Checkmate:
Last I heard, the alt-left wants to take everyone's guns...brush up on whose for the second amendment...we conservatives support gun ownership. The folks you're defending want to take your guns sir, not us. Again, you chose the wrong team...they want to take everything they can from us, including our rights, js.

Citizen:
.....and you're talking about the current administration, RIGHT ???

Lady Checkmate:
Citizen, I don't know if I should pity you or block you. It's sad.
One more time (respectfully):

1. Trump is for the second amendment. The alt-left is NOT.
2. Trump is for freedom of speech. The alt-left is NOT.
3. Trump is for putting Americans first. The alt-left is NOT.
4. Trump is for religious rights.The alt-left is NOT.
5. Trump is for returning jobs to the American people, i.e., lowering the unemployment rate. The alt-left is NOT.

If you can't follow that, I wish you well Citizen, but I think you're doing that on purpose...I won't respond to nor release further trolling and pretending that you don't understand straight forward comments.

Good luck with that btw.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - News Network 8 Comments [11/17/2017 8:01:12 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 134264

I wish the Kiwifarms wasn't so regressive sometimes and that they could respect trans people so they could listen to us and actually talk to us about stupid shit. In addition, I think we should poke fun at trans cows for more reasons than them being trans. Locria, I feel is a great example, she'd be hilarious even if she was cis.


Making fun of trannies isn't regressive.

We have plenty of real life trannies on here and nobody gives them grief about it unless they start waving it around in an attention-seeking manner.

Being trans isn't the reason we make fun of tranny lolcows. It's more in how ridiculous their supposed transgenderism is, or how they chimp out.


Varg Did Nothing Wrong, Kiwi Farms 6 Comments [11/17/2017 3:01:29 AM]
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Quote# 134261

( The emphasis are mines)

Disaster Averted
On our way camping, we came upon a long and steep decline going into the valley. It was very windy, and blew against the car and tent trailer, and along with the high speed of sixty five miles an hour, we started to fish tail and lost control of the car.

It felt like we increased our speed to much more than the limit, as my husband frantically tried to apply the brakes without locking them up.

There were cars in front of us and behind us; thankfully there were no cars beside us, and those behind us could clearly see our trouble, so they hung back, watching.

We came so close to the car in front of us, so very close. I thought for sure we had touched their bumper.

I asked my husband if he was o.k., and when my usually staid and calm husband admitted to me “I don’t know,” I felt panic hit me hard in the chest. My heart skipped a beat and I stopped breathing.

I knew it was time to pray and pray hard, but for the life of me, I could pull no scriptures to mind. The demon of panic controlled me.

So I started speaking in tongues.

I couldn’t watch anymore, so I closed my eyes, but right before I did, I caught sight of one of the four angels that guard the corners of our vehicles. It was looking at me with such peace and calmness, and I knew it was saying to me, “Come on ma petite! You know He’s got this too!”, taking me to task for letting that panic demon hit me so hard, and for that pause in my faith in Christ.

I kept speaking in tongues as I clung to the sides of my seat.

Finally, it seemed so very long, the fishtailing stopped and my husband had control of the car. I opened my eyes to look at my husband. His color was returning to his face (it had gone quite pale before,) and his grip on the wheel had returned to normal.

Disaster averted.

Thank You Jesus Christ of Nazareth!

*

“The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want…Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me…Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever.”

Psalm 23:1,4,6 (KJV)

Dreams of Dunamis, Dreams of Dunamis 5 Comments [11/17/2017 3:00:58 AM]
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Submitted By: FSM

Quote# 134278

Religious Right radio host and American Family Association official Sandy Rios continued her increasingly desperate defenses of Republican Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore by begging Alabama voters to not let the “ick factor” of the allegations against Moore prevent them from voting for him.

Rios pleaded with listeners this morning to support Moore despite allegations that he made sexual advances on teenage girls—one as young as 14 years old—while he was in his 30s. Further reporting has revealed additional accusations against Moore and that he was banned from a shopping mall for trying to solicit teenage girls.

“Ladies and gentlemen, please—I’m begging you, really—especially those of you in Alabama, not to stay home. Do not let the ‘ick’ factor set in because that’s what the establishment in Washington wants,” Rios said. “They want to cast enough taint on Judge Moore—and it will be somebody else next. Trust me.”

Rios went on to claim that if the establishment GOP is successful in supposedly orchestrating the downfall of Moore, a popular theory among many right-wing pundits, it will undermine the Religious Right as a whole.

“If they can destroy him, honestly, I don’t think that Christian conservatives will have a chance. We will be so marginalized, and ‘marginalized’ probably doesn’t even capture it. You can already see how hated we are,” Rios said.

Moore, Rios said, is hated because “he has stood so strongly for the Ten Commandments” and “marriage between a man and a woman.” Rios claimed that Matt Drudge, owner of the popular news aggregate “The Drudge Report,” lashed out at Moore because of Moore’s stance on marriage.

“The reason Drudge is so dreadful toward Moore is because Matt Drudge is a homosexual,” Rios said.

Sandy Rios, Right Wing Watch 6 Comments [11/17/2017 3:13:24 AM]
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Submitted By: kuyohashi

Quote# 134220

The chorus of national Republican leaders speaking out against Alabama GOP nominee Roy Moore after allegations of sexual misconduct grew louder Tuesday, with House Speaker Paul D. Ryan joining the effort to oust him from the Senate race and Attorney General Jeff Sessions voicing confidence in Moore’s accusers.

[...]

Neither Corfman nor any of the other women sought out The Post. While reporting a story in Alabama about supporters of Moore’s Senate campaign, a Post reporter heard that Moore allegedly had sought relationships with teenage girls. Over the ensuing three weeks, two Post reporters contacted and interviewed the four women. Nelson made her allegations against Moore after the Post article was published.

On Tuesday night, a defiant Moore spoke in Jackson, a small city in rural south Alabama, before a supportive church audience. The attacks he’d faced — “28 days before an election,” he added — came from a political establishment that was out to get him.

“Obviously I’ve made a few people mad,” said Moore. “I’m the only one who can unite Democrats and Republicans, because I’m opposed by both. They’ve done everything they could, and now they are together to try to keep me from going to Washington.”

Moore, who told his audience that he did not prepare a speech, veered from outrage at the coverage of his personal life to allegories and Bible quotes. He described a country in spiritual decline, said that the government “started creating new rights in 1965,” and accused both the media and his accusers of “harassing” him.

At one point, Moore suggested that he might lose the election. “I want to take the truth of God to Washington,” he said. “If it’s not God’s will, then I pray I don’t be put in that position, if that’s what he wants.”

Roy Moore, Washington Post 1 Comments [11/17/2017 2:47:19 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 134221

(commmenting on story "Shooting near California elementary school leaves several dead, children wounded"

Only alt-left cowards attack soft targets like churches and schools.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - News Network 5 Comments [11/17/2017 2:47:37 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 134289


I have been thinking a bit about this, and since we have some numerical data maybe we can put numbers in the issue of “pedophiles genocide”. Maybe seeing the numbers could help to have clearer visions of the implications of some people’s desires and intentions.

So, there are a large part of antis who think that all pedophiles, no matter what, should die. I want to believe that most of them don’t think that for real, that they talk without thinking first and that they aren’t actual genocidals waiting for a chance. But I would like to show the implications of following this sentiment.
The numbers: 


The global population is around 7000,000,000. The number of pedophiles is estimated to be around a 5% (and maybe it could be bigger, since the female population hasn’t been deeply studied and we are talking only about pedophiles, not ALL MAPs. But well, we’ll go with that number. An estimation).

What does this mean? That around 350,000,000 people are pedophiles. 350 MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN THE WORLD ARE PEDOPHILES.

Think slowly about it. USA population is 323 millions. The whole Europe population is 743 millions. Murdering all pedophiles would mean that you want to kill more than what the USA’s population is. Half of the european population. Can you see it now? Do you have the number and its implications in your head?

But well, we’ll keep going over this. I’m strongly against death penalty. I don’t think we have any right to decide who lives and who dies and I don’t believe in a punitive justice system. That is not justice, that is just revenge. I believe in rehabilitation and reinsertion when it is possible, in turning criminals in good, productive members of society and approach the penitenciary system not as a punishment but as therapeutic, educational system. But I’m going to let this for a moment. We are going to say that we accept death penalty for some criminals and that child abusers get that. By this genocide you aren’t just killing offenders, but millions of innocent people. Gonna imagine that a 25% of pedophiles are offenders in some way (and I’m being generous with the number. Too high). If that is true, you are still mudering 262,500,000 of innocent people. Even if half of the pedophiles where child abusers, that would be 175 millions of innocents murdered. The studies with higher numbers about the nazi holocaust talk about 15-20 millions of victims. When you say you want all pedophiles dead that means that you want a genocide 20 times worse than the nazi one. Even if you are full of hate and approve capital punishment, you should be able to see that the genocide of 350 millions of people, innocent or not, just for a specific and unchosen trait of them is too radical and useless. But I’ll go over this now.
“It is for a greater good”


Ok, just for a second, we are going to pretend that the murdering of innocent people (or just, murdering in general) is justificable in some way, we are going to imagine that there is such a thing as a greater good that is above the most basic human right of millions of people and that makes their murder ok. What would you achive with this? Well, acknowledging that only around 33% of CSA is commited by pedophiles that means that this genocide wouldn’t stop even half of the abuse children suffer. 66% of it would still happen. So we would have millions of innocents dead and children still being abused without no one taking serious actions to stop it, because they have focus all the effort in the murdering of pedophiles.

But that is not all. Pedophiles would keep borning, of course. Because pedophilia is not a choice, an ideology or something you can control. People would still born with this trait and would develop it, so you’d have to keep murdering a 5% of human population every generation. This would include a lot of CSA survivors, of course, that turn out to be pedophiles when they grow up. But since you are killing pedophiles CSA is impossible so there isn’t survivors, right? This approach will just lead to a total invisibilization of CSA, because to justify the genocidal attitude you need to support the idea that only pedophiles commit CSA, so the voices of most victims wouldn’t be hear. 

And of course, if your intention is murdering pedophiles as a “prevention” strategy, it would be the best that you kill them as young as possible, before they can commit any offense. Since most people became aware of their attractions as teens, you would be killing mostly minors. Probably the millions you are killing are all under 16. But that is ok, because it is for a greater good… Or maybe not.

Because by killing all pedophiles you would still have most of CSA happening and you would have to keep an eternal genocide for the rest of the history without any perks coming from it. Because you would see friends, family, neighbours… dying constantly for a trait they didn’t choose and you would have to accept it because that is supposed to make some kind of good for society. This is not effective. This doesn’t save children. This is heinous. There are way better things we can do about this topic.
So, what can we do, then?


We, as a society, have a principal role here. We can prevent CSA before it happens and the way to achive this is not murdering, it’s not genocide, it’s not hate. It is knowledge and understanding. We need to be aware of the risk factors for CSA and treat them as soon as we notify someone has them. Treatment is not murdering, but therapy. And this is not a thing just for pedophiles. This is something for anyone with these risk factors (lack of empathy, self-control…). On the side of pedophiles, literature is clear about it: isolation only hurts and create risk factors. The way to prevent pedophiles from offending is offering them a supportative, open society. If instead of making them feeling like mosters doomed to abuse we teach young pedophiles that they are ok, that they are in control of their actions and that people are going to still love and care about them we are protecting these teens from developing the distortions that can lead to abuse. An open society would mean that pedophiles who need it could go to therapy without fear, learning to accept themselves, to empathize with children, fighting cognitive distortions and developing self-control skills that would prevent them from commiting any kind of offense. This therapy is the way to prevent CSA. And to provide it we need that society stops to hate and demonize pedophiles so they can take this step. But therapy alone is not enough. Human beings need acceptation, need people who show love for them, need to be part of a group and community. That is why you shouldn’t isolate pedophiles. Because it hurts their mental health, because maybe the only ones who show acceptation would be pro-contact communities, because maybe their loneliness pushes them to do something terrible that we all could have prevent if we had had enough understanding and vision for it.
Conclusion


When you say you want all pedophiles to die you mean that you want 350 millions of people dead. These aren’t light words. This is a terrible statement and maybe you should think about it carefully before support it. You should keep in mind that pedophiles are human beings, with family and friends, most of them innocent, and that all this death would bring a lot of pain to the world without actually helping anyone. The dead of pedophiles wouldn’t stop CSA. Most children would still be abused. The way to prevent this is a good konwledge of the causes and risk factors of CSA and early intervention on these. Genocide, demonization or isolation is not the right intervention, it is an useless preventive strategy with a lot of negative impact. If we want to actually help children we should start by understanding what pedophilia is, who are the pedophiles and heping them to remainn non-offending and anti-contact. We should all work together with MAPs, who can be actually the first step in CSA prevention and the ones turning pro-contacts and potential abusers in riskless people, so we can help children. We should guide ourselves by science, by research, by what we learn and not by what we feel or just blindly believe.
Some last reflections for antis


Please, next time you type something like “I hope all pedos die” “I wish you all were dead” “Please, die” “kill yourself” “best you can do is killing yourself” or any form of suicide baiting and death wishing try to think in the effect of your words. Try to think that in the other side of the screen there is a human being, a person with their life, their problems, their suffering. Someone who didn’t choose to be like that and who has to learn to live with a part of themselves that they probably hate way more than you do. The person you are talking to is not your abuser, is not any child abuser. It is another scared person who is seeking a bit of help and empathy from another human beings. It could be anyone. Your best friend, your nice classmate, your parent, your children. Anyone. 

Because when you express this desire you are telling 350,000,000 of human beings that they would be better off dead. And these are strong words, directed towards people with a high suicide risk. With this, you aren’t protecting children, you are hurting them. With this, you are just spreading your rage to feel a bit better about yourself in the most twisted and egoistic way, but you cause harm. Even to yourself, no matter if you can’t see this now. Drowing in hate, rage and such a toxic ideology won’t bring you peace or happiness. You will only feel worse and worse, more full of wrath, until the day you can’t hold it anymore.

Try to be careful. Think in your words, in their true meaning, in society, in what we can do to make this world better. Stop for a moment, breath deeply, ignore the hate, the rage, your pain, and then try to open your eyes and start to learn. You don’t have to agree in everything. You dont’ have to be a MAP supporter. But just stopping to spread a message of hate and genocide and starting researches and discusssions would do a lot of good. For society, yes, but specially for yourself. Because you are the one who is getting more hurt with this. I hope you can think slowly and see this someday. And for that day I’m here. And for the day before too. I want to know you, I want to help you, I want to show you kindness and empathy. I know you are a good person, that you mean well and that someday you could see what was wrong in your actions. Until then, I’ll be here anyway. I’m open to talk, to discuss, to share my sources and research and to give you support when you need it. But please, stop to support genocide. Don’t let yourself to think that the murdering of 350,000,000 can be in any circunstances for a greater good. Never. Genocide is always wrong. 

And if you are an anti who is against cross-tagging, against suicide baiting and death wishes and who believe in therapy even if you don’t like the MAP community, please, try to be vocal about this. Help to make your community less toxic and hateful, help another people to be less dogmatic and more open to talk and discuss in respectful ways, try to make them see why wishing people dead or telling them to commit suicide is wrong. You have a lot of power in your hands and you can stop a lot of harm just by making your community a bit more open, tolerant and safe, by making it less harmful for its members and less anti-science, anti-recovery and anti-therapy. If you believe that something is wrong don’t be afraid and speak up against it. I have talked with antis who only were antis and who wrote hateful stuff because they were scared to be called out and hated for not being like the other antis. That is not good. No one should feel forced to do something they don’t agree with and that makes them distressed just for the fear that their own community causes them. Be helpful, be there for the ones who show more humanity and empathy. Suport therapy and understanding, not genocide, rage and hate. Give everyone a hand.

So, summarizing, if you support the idea of wanting all pedophiles dead, try to think slowly, be aware of the implications, keep the numbers and facts in your mind. Genocide is not an option. If you want to fight monsters, try to don’t become yourself in one.

aleskakolja, tumblr 4 Comments [11/17/2017 3:48:14 AM]
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Quote# 134293

-Sexual activity between adults and children is found in all primate species, and all pre-industrial cultures without a taboo on child sexuality. It is just as "normal", biologically speaking, as homosexual behavior.
-Pedophilia is not a mental illness, but a sexual orientation. The conclusion of the final DSM-V is that the term "pedophilia" by itself does not refer to a psychiatric disorder. There is no longer an entry for "Pedophilia" but only one for "Pedophilic Disorder", and it states that if individuals "report an absence of feelings of guilt, shame, or anxiety about these impulses and are not functionally limited by their paraphilic impulses (according to self-report, objective assessment, or both), and their self-reported and legally recorded histories indicate that they have never acted on their impulses, then these individuals have a pedophilic sexual orientation but not pedophilic disorder."
-There is no evidence pedophilia is the result of any kind of abuse. This is an urban myth discredited by scientific research.
Freund, Kurt; Watson, R.; and Dickey, R. (1990). "Does sexual abuse in childhood cause pedophilia: an exploratory study," Archives of Sex

Cannibalism is also found in primate species. I guess we should just make cannibalism legal? The whole point of being human is not giving in to disgusting impulses like pedophilia and cannibalism.



Why is consensual and mutually pleasurable sexual activity between children and adults "disgusting"? Plenty of people find homosexuality "disgusting" as well. Does this mean we should ban homosexual sex? Why is it any different with sex between children and adults?




svarog123, /r/TumblrInAction 4 Comments [11/17/2017 3:54:47 AM]
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Quote# 134287

why do you lead a youth group when you’re a pedophile? i hope someone exposes you and you aren’t allowed around these children!!



Why do you work with women when you’re attracted to them?
See how ridiculous that sounds?
#minor attracted person #minor attracted people #nomap #pedophile #pedophilia #anonymous ask

dean-the-map, tumblr 5 Comments [11/17/2017 3:33:15 AM]
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Quote# 134262

Re: Kenya blames gays for gay animals

actually I didn't read the article but it is very plausible.

gay people invite demonic influence if not outright possession.

gayness goes against nature

lions in the wild would have no reason to be gay except by perhaps demonic influence

the gays may have invited over some demons which may have then caused the lions to behave against nature.

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also, now that i briefly looked over the article,

the kenyan officials may actually be accurate

behavioral activities are often mimicked by animals

lions in a zoo see humans so much that it is certainly plausible that they are influenced behaviorally

the presense of gays may have introduced, psychologically, unnatural behavioral traits, especially if the gays actually performed gay activities in view of the lions

whiteuser1, Stormfront 17 Comments [11/16/2017 6:54:20 AM]
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Quote# 134228

Multiple millions of people may embrace the same sex marriage lie but the Almighty is not impressed and has the lasting say on the matter.

tflabo, Free Republic 10 Comments [11/17/2017 2:52:53 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134277

On his television show on Friday, prepper pastor Jim Bakker said that people would realize that the End Times are upon us if they would simply study the Bible because if they do, they’ll be able to recognize that the signs mentioned in the book of Revelation are already happening.

For instance, Bakker said, people who have studied the Bible will realize that Apache helicopters were mentioned in Revelation 9:

The locusts looked like horses prepared for battle. On their heads they wore something like crowns of gold, and their faces resembled human faces. Their hair was like women’s hair, and their teeth were like lions’ teeth. They had breastplates like breastplates of iron, and the sound of their wings was like the thundering of many horses and chariots rushing into battle. They had tails with stingers, like scorpions, and in their tails they had power to torment people for five months.
“Everything in the Bible is not a fairy tale,” Bakker said. “It’s all things that you can learn [if you study] … Do you know the Apache helicopter, I think, is in the Bible. John the Revelator saw it, he heard it, he saw it, it’s there. It said it had a face of a man; look in the helicopter, there’s the face of a man. It had a blue breastplate; it’s there. It’s so easy to understand the revelation if you read it.”

jim bakker, Right Wing Watch 10 Comments [11/17/2017 3:11:46 AM]
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Submitted By: kuyohashi

Quote# 134232

lol some people have lost it on my main with necrophilia discourse. Antis are really something else.

Anyways, just let you all know that necrophiliacs are amazing and I love you all guys. There is nothing wrong with you and your attractions and you are pretty chill and cool. Ignore the hate, you are the best. Hope you all my fellow necrophiles have a great day!!!




Tags: necrophilia positivity necrophilia kink positivity sex positivity paraphilias positivity paraphilias positivity

paraphilias-are-human, Tumblr 7 Comments [11/17/2017 2:58:58 AM]
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