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Quote# 100568

Thanks to what I suspect is your Gododgery we are are now talking at cross purposes.
The only points I am making is that the existential stakes of various beliefs are different.
If Kevin the pixie is true then by rejeccting him all I face is not having him provide honey for my toast.
If I reject what some claims of God claim and they are true I face self alienation and alienation from all.Those are different stakes if true.
All positions regarding any belief are themselves beliefs but they do not hold equal existential stakes.

To believe that there is no self to exist and so all existential thought is meaningless is a belief position which has a low existential stake
since there is no self to be existential...on the other hand it could be a philosophical ''put up job'' to avoid ''commitment'' to a more comprehensive existential position.

Bluehillside is fundementally asking us to believe in the elephant in the room of no Gods on a belief position which has low existential stake.



Whatever happened to the leprechauns?, Religion and Ethics 26 Comments [4/16/2014 3:22:35 AM]
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Quote# 100534

It’s not an exaggeration to say homofascist because the German Nazi Party was homosexual, Hitler was a homosexual, the top Nazi leadership, all of them were homosexuals, it was a radical homosexual movement that gained political power, military power, and they were creating a homosexual special race. That’s what it was all about. It wasn’t this thing about an Aryan race of white people, blue-eyed, blonde-haired, white people, Hitler was trying to create a race of super gay male soldiers. That’s what he was creating. [Emphasis added]

When you understand what the real agenda of the homosexual movement was in the 30s and 40s and you see it is happening now here in the United States of America. I’m telling you, this is not an exaggeration. If it’s not stopped, it will end up in America just like it was in Germany but it won’t be the Jews that will be slaughtered, it will be the Christians.

Rick Wiles, Right Wing Watch 35 Comments [4/15/2014 3:12:06 AM]
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Submitted By: Night Jaguar
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Quote# 100565

Paternalism grows out of the “big man” societies in which there is a top-down system for wealth redistribution. All wealth flows to the chief, and he doles it out to his subjects, often favoring those who support him or otherwise please him.

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Ultimately, in some cases, this led to the development of a formalized system of patriarchy, in which it was legally recognized that each male householder had a privileged status in regards to his own family, if nothing else, which gave rise to the practice of patrilineal descent. This laid the groundwork for the development of civilization from barbarism, as taxation and patronage now required recordkeeping and certain conditions. A shift then began to occur away from a purely paternalistic society to one in which rulers had to adhere to laws that placed controls on their wealth collection and redistribution. Thus, social hierarchies flourished, social organization solidified, and increasingly large and complex forms of government evolved.

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To increase revenue and political support, [politicians] have promoted and passed laws that shatter the concept of the patriarchal family. A few examples include preferential maternal custody, decriminalization of adultery, introducing no-fault divorce and preferential welfare to single mothers. Gay marriage, which is essentially a formal declaration that the government does not recognize patriarchy as valid or supported by any law or policy at all, is the latest example.

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So, what we’re really facing today is not matriarchy, but an increasingly despotic paternalism, in which men’s autonomy and authority is being steadily eroded in the interests of those in power. Our intimate relationships, our conditions of employment, and taxes all conspire to subjugate us to the powerful, who are working steadily to remove any checks on their own power and challenges to their authority. Almost every government-led initiative, whether it be population replacement through immigration, women’s “empowerment,” or highway checkpoints leads in this direction.

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In the meanwhile, as men, we should hold out not for “equality” with women, which will never, ever, turn out equal, but a more desirable system of democratic patriarchy, in which all men are afforded equal rights to independence in their own homes and affairs and freedom from arbitrary paternalism.

W. F. Price, The Spearhead 24 Comments [4/16/2014 3:19:19 AM]
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Quote# 100557

First of all, up until the Tower of Babel, they had to speak some language.

What language was that?

What's the best candidate?

In Revelation we see ...

Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

What are these books that are mentioned?

I believe they are the 66 books of the KJB.

Thus we have all peoples, nations, languages and tongues, standing before the Judgement Seat, being read to from the KJB.

Thus if they speak Jacobean English in Heaven, I assume they spoke it on earth at first.

Just a speculation.

AV1611VET, Christianforums 60 Comments [4/15/2014 3:32:41 AM]
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Quote# 100563

1. Truth: All men are men.

2. Truth: All men are criminals (rapists, impregnators, thieves, other)

3. Truth: No man has any sense of justice, ethics or morality whatsoever. Everything men do is unjust and at the expense of women, girls, animals and the earth. Men invented the laws to protect their crimes.

4. Truth: Men have no understanding of what spirituality is. They function only through control and sadism. The devil is the true face of men.

5. Truth: All male systems are totalitarian regimes, and all men individually and collectively exercice totalitarian control over women and girls.

6. Lie: Some men are truly committed to peace in the world and will risk everything to save and protect the earth / protect women and children against evil invaders who want to destroy the world.

Truth: all men are the evil, alien, living-dead, zombie, robotic, automated, formatted invaders and colonisers who want to and do destroy all life on earth. The truth is that WE need to get ALL MEN out as soon as possible if we want to save the earth.

7. Truth: All men capitalise on women’s slave labour, forced impregnation, women’s captivity to them and the use and exchange of women as goods for PIV / rape: this is the basis of capitalism. Capitalism is not a system separate from men. Men made it and all men are part of it, it for them, as men. It IS the male system.

8. Truth: All men are cops and oppressors to women, and survey women 24/7, in private and in public, in thoughts, mind and body. All men are agents of repression and oppression to us. The truth is that each and every man monopolises the legitimate use of violence and repression, not just the state, military, cops, etc.

9. Truth: There is no evidence at all that men can stop being violent against women, raping women, feeding off women’s work, energy and attention. Pro-feminist men prove to be time and again the same violent rapist fucktards as any other men. I do not know of a SINGLE exception.

Well, I could go on and on like this but you got the picture.

Witchwind, radical wind 44 Comments [4/16/2014 3:17:06 AM]
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Quote# 100545

Basically, liberals are decedents of peasants, they find comfort in being ruled by a superior entity.
They are uncomfortable with the idea of being sovereign, and find comfort in their subservient position to government.
They want someone else to take the responsibility to be the boss of them and tell them what to do.

It is something that has been bred into them over thousands of years. Even when they attempt to practice some small element of self rule, they flock to democracy or mob rule, in order to find the comfort of being just a small part of the large group.

They are threatened by individual freedom and responsibility and seek to encompass everyone under the guise of mob rule, forcing people who do not agree with their positions to conform. Anyone who practices independence and true freedom is seen as a threat, and someone to be mistrusted.

It is unfortunate that they have become the vast majority.

jimhcom, City Data 40 Comments [4/15/2014 3:28:21 AM]
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Submitted By: ScrappyB
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Quote# 100480

Consequences are the only way to ensure good behavior in women. Women need consequences for divorce in order to remain married. My assumption here is all women by default have no morals. A woman will choose to remain married on the basis of relative consequences. Below is my list of strategic consequences I see enabling marriage, in no particular order.

1. Date or "marry" an illegal alien. She'll have no legal recourse and will be afraid to approach the law. The consequence of her leaving you will be she'll have to expose herself more to chances of being deported.

2. Date or "marry" a woman who doesn't speak English. Similiar to above, she'll have no way to understand the legal system. She'll need translation. The biggest consequence here is she'll have to learn English.

3. Date or "marry" a devout religious woman, who's denomination includes some aspect of going to hell for committing divorce or infidelity. The consequence here: burning in hell.

4. Date or "marry" a woman and create a closed loop social network for her. Indian culture is good at this. In Indian culture divorce rarely happens because the women know they'll be shunned by their entire social network. So the consequence here are losing all her friends.

5. Date or "marry" a woman and live in their foreign country. By living abroad you're not giving them the standard of living in your own country. Doing so allows you to hold up citizenship as in incentive for remaining with you. The consequence here is withdrawing chances of citizenship.

drealm, CoAlpha Brotherhood 156 Comments [4/11/2014 3:36:35 AM]
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Submitted By: mori
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Quote# 100513

Hell is not a threat, it is the return address that these envelopes called our bodies are mailed with. (born with.) The Postmaster offers to change that return address free of charge, He will even pay the new shipping bill for you! People go to Hell because they do not accept the payment for that return address, it is as simple as that. There is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, and so the redeemed have no fear of hell, because we have been rescued from it, and that change of return address is permanent, Christ is unwilling for any of those He has been given to be lost.

Chris H, Jason Lisle's blog 46 Comments [4/13/2014 4:34:42 AM]
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Quote# 100561

Miley Cyrus (mentally disturbed/obscene), Beyoncé (bitchy/materialistic) and Lorde (weird/unattractive) have taken up the feminist banner, and are much celebrated for doing so. Kirsten Dunst, on the other hand, who comes off as genuinely pleasant, attractive in a girl-next-door kind of way and inoffensive, says that femininity is undervalued, and being a wife and mother in the traditional sense isn’t all bad. She also says relationships work best when men can be men and women women. Is this such a terrible, awful thing to say? Something that should immediately be shouted down? Apparently so, despite the fact that people seem to instinctively agree with her, if all of history and global culture up to now is any indication of human norms.

Our culture has gone so far off the deep end that I don’t think it’s worth taking it seriously anymore. America, the global joke, where a politician can’t promote anything but androgynous “gender equality” and a CEO can’t even say marriage is between a man and a woman. It’s getting close to time to call it quits on this political experiment. Frankly, if you were born in the US and don’t look at our flag with some combination of pity, sadness and contempt, there’s something wrong with you at this point. I feel bad for having to put it in those terms, but it’s true.

W. F. Price, The Spearhead 26 Comments [4/16/2014 3:16:23 AM]
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Quote# 18494

[Has anyone here ever heard of an atheist damaging a christian's car?]

Rather sure it happens daily. Ever heard of carjackings? I'm reasonably certain they aren't committed by devout Christians.

Not all atheists are the moral bunch we find here. Many are the worst criminals in society.

Avatar, Christian Forums 18 Comments [12/21/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 99860

I asked one of the boys in this picture if he would marry only a Jewish girl. He answered that it did not matter. I asked him if his mother was Jewish. He answered that she was a convert. I said, “If it was a kosher, orthodox, conversion, then she was Jewish, and if he didn’t marry a Jewish girl she would break both his legs.

He answered very sincerely, “My mother would never break both my legs.”

I said, “Then, it probably wasn’t a kosher conversion.”

Reb Gutman Locks, Mystical Paths 26 Comments [3/9/2014 4:46:53 AM]
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Quote# 93253

Liberal women are too fragile and too easily offended to hold political office -- that's the latest pronouncement from ultra-controversial pundit Ann Coulter, who made the comments during an appearance on conservative host Sean Hannity's Fox News program Thursday.

Hannity and Coulter's discussion centered around the heated gun control legislation exchange that took place Thursday between Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas).

After Cruz quoted portions of the Bill of Rights to Feinstein, the senior senator snapped back, saying she's "not a sixth grader."

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“I used to think women just should not be able to vote. Now I think at least liberal women should not be able to hold office,” Coulter said. “Every time you try to have a discussion with them, they become hysterical, they cry, and they want to show pictures of dead children. As if our position is 'we don’t mind a few dead children.' Our position is ‘concealed carry’ would stop these slaughters.”

Coulter has been consistently outspoken on the issue of guns and control in America.

In January, Coulter was criticized for saying gun crime was a "demographic" problem. Also in January, Coulter argued that public records of gun permit holders should not be made available. She then suggested records of women who've had abortion be revealed.

"Why can't we get a record of women who have had abortions?" Coulter asked Hannity at the time. "They get money from Planned Parenthood; they get money from Medicare and Medicaid, much of these are tax subsidies. I think mothers might want to know what other women on their street might be willing to murder a child."

Ann Coulter, Huffington Post 107 Comments [3/21/2013 3:53:03 AM]
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Submitted By: Rabbit of Caerbannog
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Quote# 100478

WARSAW, Poland (AP) — A Roman Catholic priest has touched off a controversy in Poland after news media quoted him describing toys like LEGO's Monster Fighters as tools of Satan that lead children to the "dark side."

The Super Express tabloid quoted the Rev. Slawomir Kostrzewa urging parents to dump the LEGO series as well as Mattel's Monster High. The remarks at a Sunday service in the town of Wolsztyn touched off discussion in predominantly Catholic Poland, which holds priests in high esteem.

Mainstream newspapers seized on the report, as did state radio. Parents took to Twitter to mock Kostrzewa.

At issue are the interlocking block toy's fantasy figures, such as a vampire baring his teeth. The range includes characters like The Swamp Creature and The Werewolf.

In remarks Friday to The Associated Press, Kostrzewa says the faces of the monsters and zombies are scary and undermine a child's right to live in harmony and security. Though he denied that he connected the matter to Satan, he underscored that corporations bent on profit do not have the best interests of children in mind.

"Toys are increasingly ugly and aggressive in form," he said. "Many of them promote negative emotions and the aesthetics of death. In my opinion they have a negative influence on a child's development."

He said some parents need guidance on the effect that toys have on their children.

LEGO spokesman Roar Trangbaek insisted the toys were fun and inspiring, while conflict games have been played for generations.

"You can play out various scenarios and various emotions with the different facial expressions the mini figures have: happy, angry, sad," Trangbaek told the AP. "The beauty of our product is that you can play out whatever you like."

It is not Kostrzewa's first crusade. He has in the past campaigned against Sanrio's Hello Kitty, arguing that it promoted the pornography industry and the sexualizing of young girls.


Slawomir Kostrzewa , msn News Offbeat 38 Comments [4/11/2014 3:35:38 AM]
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Submitted By: Insult to Rocks
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Quote# 100540

The idiotic liberals get all warm and fuzzy about how accepting they are of Muslims and their mosques, but they fail to understand that the Muslim religion is little different from the Nazis in how they see the world.
Many Muslims were Nazis during WWII and they still admire Hitler etc.

I wonder how accepting the foolish New York liberals would be if, instead of Muslims, the Nazis had bought that building and then set out a huge flag with a swastika on it? I'd bet they would not be so warm and accepting then.

Clouds, Rapture Ready 28 Comments [4/15/2014 3:25:21 AM]
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Quote# 100538

Just what is it that a degree in "feminist studies" prepares & empowers a person to do?

Are they considered scholars in the ritualistic art form of abortion and infanticide? Are they qualified to perform in plays & skits that have the title "monologues" in them? Do they advise under age girls on how to really act when Mommy & Daddy aren't around?

I find it rather interesting that a woman who claims to be a "feminist", is about as much help to little girls as the klan was to blacks during Jim Crow.

Not only do they ruin little girls with their sexual liberation nonsense, they also are responsible for the wholesale murder of millions of potential woman since abortion seems to be the "choice" in some cultures when an expectant couple is having a girl.......

Florian9, Rapture Ready 19 Comments [4/15/2014 3:21:33 AM]
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Quote# 741

The part of the Bible we are talking about here was written about 3500 years ago, by a man named Moses. He was a Hebrew, but was raised as the grandson of the Pharaoh in Egypt. The result was, he received the best education of his day, and also had access to the library at Alexandria, that had a copy of every know book to be in existence at the time.

JohnR7, Christian Forums 4 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 100394

For those of you who haven't figured it out, feminism is simply the belief that women and children are the property of the elite to be administered by the government/corporate system.

It has been said that feminists want women to be independent and have autonomy. Nothing could be further from the truth. Huge campaigns are openly conducted to influence the behavior of women. Any solo-mother who has dealt with social services or any woman said to have a mental illness who has dealt with mental health authorities will know the system is as paternalistic as all get out to women. In fact feminism is a particularly strong form of the traditional idea that women are mentally ill grown children and need to be protected and controlled. The only issue is who is to do the protecting and controlling. Feminists sometimes seem to be providing women with autonomy, but only because they are enabling behavior that separates the women from ordinary men and delivers them into the hands of the elite.

Cornfed, CoAlpha Brotherhood 185 Comments [4/6/2014 3:47:59 AM]
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Submitted By: Saney
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Quote# 3047

And fosil dating is a worthless piece of junk that someone came up with. It uses circular reasoning for one. And two it doesn't take millions or even billions of years for them to form. I remember somewhere (I do remember it was very credible though) that someone's grandpa had died and they burried them. 15 years later the grandma died, but when the went to dig the grave, the ground was soaked with water from an underground river/spring. So, they dug the grandma's grave soemwhere else, but when they went back to get teh grandpa he had fosilized!

Giggle, HomeschoolDebate 13 Comments [5/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 20463

1. If there is a mixed group, and someone will be leading the prayer, the ladies should split up from the men, or a man should lead the prayer.
2. If everyone is praying, and no one is 'leading' the prayer, then no problems
3. If it is a group prayer, and there is no man who will pray, then there shouldn't be a group prayer - everyone should pray.

The bottom line is that praying, like everything else, should be led by the men - ladies should not take over and speak for the men.

Bro. Randy, Teens-4-Christ 53 Comments [2/9/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1598

God is indeed love but dont allow the pretty surfaces of these lies to decieve you. The nature of God is expressed truthfully in the Bible not in dozens of pagan religions where God said to be more a nebulous "force". The only truth is Jesus Christ, not the conglomeration feel-good intellectualized religion of Universalism--"all religions lead to the same God"---Satanic lies.

Budge, Rapture Ready 3 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 100515

[Dave Blount mistakes a satirical take on the resignation of Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich for a genuine article calling for the firing of people who donated to the Prop 8 campaign.]

After Fall of Brendan Eich, Liberal Fascists Call for Broader Purge of Thought Criminals

Did you think Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich’s would be the last scalp collected on behalf of homosexual militants? The liberal fascists at Slate inform us otherwise:

Some of my colleagues are celebrating. They call Eich a bigot who got what he deserved. I agree. But let’s not stop here. If we’re serious about enforcing the new standard, thousands of other employees who donated to the same anti-gay ballot measure must be punished.

More than 35,000 people gave money to the campaign for Proposition 8, the 2008 ballot measure that declared, “Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California.” You can download the entire list, via the Los Angeles Times, as a compressed spreadsheet. (Click the link that says, “Download CSV.”) Each row lists the donor’s employer. …

Thirty-seven companies in the database are linked to more than 1,300 employees who gave nearly $1 million in combined contributions to the campaign for Prop 8. Twenty-five tech companies are linked to 435 employees who gave more than $300,000. Many of these employees gave $1,000 apiece, if not more. Some, like Eich, are probably senior executives.

Why do these bigots still have jobs? Let’s go get them. …

If we’re serious about taking down corporate officers who supported Proposition 8, and boycotting employers who promote them, we’d better get cracking on the rest of the list.


Remember that the people they are seeking out for destruction gave money years ago to a proposition that was passed by a majority of California voters, who were then overruled by the courts, starting with gay activist judge Vaughn Walker. Prop 8 is long dead; the liberals who control the judiciary have spoken. The explicit objective now is to hunt down people who have privately held views in the past that are currently considered inconsistent with leftwing ideology.

This isn’t about promoting homosexuality as an end in itself, or only the tiny percentage of Americans who are pushily homosexual would be driving it. This is a major battle in the Cultural Marxist war to replace America with a country where no thought crime (as defined by ultra-Left oligarchs) will be tolerated.

As you can see, anonymity is no longer an option. Neither is sitting on the sidelines. Either we fight these vermin, or they win. If they win there will be zero tolerance for anyone they deem to be ideologically incorrect, as they have clearly demonstrated.

Dave Blount, Moonbattery 25 Comments [4/13/2014 4:36:06 AM]
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Submitted By: Rabbit of Caerbannog
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Quote# 100521

Greetings True Christians!

Did you know that God is punishing the West Coast of the United States? Many have died in landslides in Washington state. There are Earthquakes in California. God is unleashing his wrath through natural disasters God is unleashing his wrath upon the sinful United States, and the wicked will suffer. How do we know that these disasters are a punishment from God? The truth is clear.

Everyone knows that God punishes His enemies with death. The Egyptians were punished with plagues when they refused to let God’s people go. God punished Texas with school shootings and drought after the state said that the Institute for Creation Research could not have an accredited high school. God punished the Philippines with Haiyan, and the ungodly Indonesians and Chinese with the Malaysia Air plane crash. God punished New York City, one of Satan’s favorite playgrounds, with the September 11th attacks. If you have offended God, He will punish you!

The foolish geologists believe that landslides can only happen in certain areas. Well folks, that’s just stupid. What causes a landslide? Landslides aren’t caused by any physical process, but rather by the direct wrath of God. Much like God flooded the Earth at the time of Noah’s Flood, God can create landslides to punish sinners and unbelievers. It’s simple boys and girls. God created the universe, and he can control it in any way He sees fit. The only logical way to argue against this truth is to believe that you somehow came from a pile of goo that turned into an animal in the zoo and finally into you. That evil Darwinist dogma is just stupid folks. Heck, the scientists can’t even come up with good natural explanations for natural disasters. If the universe wasn’t made imperfect by the death caused by Eve’s transgression, then we wouldn’t have landslides to begin with!

Martin Baker and Jim Solouki, creationsciencestudy 60 Comments [4/14/2014 2:58:47 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris
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Quote# 54865

TV programming is almost always produced by those who have a worldview contrary to scripture. Even if you find a "good" show, the commercials are vile. To me, it seemed like I was allowing Satan direct access into my home to influence me, my wife, and my children. That access is coming to an end on December 23rd.

jgilberAZ, Fulfilled Prophecy 45 Comments [12/27/2008 10:45:38 AM]
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Quote# 100536

[in response to a Pennsylvania high school stabbing]

Atheist children should be put in separate schools so the other children can be safe.

Bjorn Rothraussen, CNN 19 Comments [4/15/2014 3:20:35 AM]
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Quote# 45242

[Question: By teaching my students science and in particular, evolution, am I teaching them to reject their religion?]

Answer:

So basically you're saying you want to poison the minds of your students by influencing them to reject their religion all for the sake of the THEORY of evolution?

If my child was your student, I'd have you fired.

higherlovetx, Yahoo Answers 36 Comments [8/17/2008 9:17:55 PM]
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Submitted By: Lola Flores
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