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Quote# 44076

[Question: Spiritual Speaking: What was the Name that God Call the female in the beginning?]

Answer:


eve. u know adam and eve! o my ur not a christain go to google and find out about christians and b come saved

truedog, Yahoo Answers 43 Comments [8/3/2008 1:49:40 AM]
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Submitted By: Lola

Quote# 140486

In May of 2015, I published an article entitled “8 steps to confront your wife’s sexual refusal”. In this article I detailed 8 steps that Christian men could take in confronting sexual defraudment on the part of their wives. This article has since become one of the top 5 viewed pages on this blog and this page alone has had about 800,000 views since I first published it. I made some edits to this article over the last few years but essentially it has remained the same. Here are the 8 steps I list for men in confronting their wife’s sexual refusal:

Step 1 – Rebuke her privately

Step 2 – Stop taking her on dates or trips

Step 3 – No unnecessary household upgrades

Step 4 – Stop doing the little extra things

Step 5 – Remove her funding

Step 6 – Rebuke her before witnesses

Step 7 – Bring her before the Church


And then I gave the 8th and final step for husbands if these 7 steps did not bring their wife to repentance:

“What if none of these 7 steps work?

If your wife remains willfully defiant, yet she has not left you, it could be for a variety of reasons. She may not want to lose how she lives with you and she knows that after a divorce her lifestyle will be severely affected, and she does not want to deal with the consequences of divorce. Perhaps she may have some genuine care for you left as well as your children but she simply cannot see the error of her ways and will hold out indefinitely with the hope that one day you will fold and give her back the money, the dates, the trips, the house hold upgrades and she will not have been forced to change her ways.

But you have a final step you may take, one that you need to pray long and hard about before you do.

You have the option to divorce her for her sexual immorality.

“But I tell you, everyone who divorces his wife, except in a case of sexual immorality, causes her to commit adultery. And whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.” – Matthew 5:32(HCSB)”


biblicalgenderroles, Biblical Gender Roles 12 Comments [9/18/2018 2:53:08 AM]
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Quote# 140498

Question: "Why is the idea of eternal damnation so repulsive to many people?"

Answer: In the shifting winds of modern cultures, the idea of everlasting torment and damnation is difficult for many people to grasp. Why is this? The Bible makes it clear that hell is a literal place. Christ spoke more about hell than He did of heaven. Not only Satan and his minions will be punished there, everyone who rejects Jesus Christ will spend eternity right along with them. A desire to reject or revise the doctrine of hell will not mitigate its flames or make the place go away. Still, the idea of eternal damnation is spurned by many, and here are some reasons for it:

The influence of contemporary thought. In this postmodern era, many go to great lengths to assure no one is offended, and the biblical doctrine of hell is considered offensive. It is too harsh, too old-fashioned, too insensitive. The wisdom of this world is focused on this life, with no thought of the life to come.

Fear. Never-ending, conscious punishment devoid of any hope is indeed a frightening prospect. Many people would rather ignore the source of fear than face it and deal with it biblically. The fact is, hell should be frightening, considering it is the place of judgment originally created for the devil and his angels (Matthew 25:41).

A flawed view of God’s love. Many who reject the idea of eternal damnation do so because they find it difficult to believe that a loving God could banish people to a place as horrific as hell for all eternity. However, God’s love does not negate His justice, His righteousness, or His holiness. Neither does His justice negate His love. In fact, God’s love has provided the way to escape His wrath: the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross (John 3:16-18).

A downplaying of sin. Some find it shockingly unfair that the recompense for a mere lifetime of sinning should be an eternal punishment. Others reject the idea of hell because, in their minds, sin isn’t all that bad. Certainly not bad enough to warrant eternal torture. Of course, it is usually our own sin that we downplay; other people might deserve hell—murderers and the like. This attitude reveals a misunderstanding of the universally heinous nature of sin. The problem is an insistence on our own basic goodness, which precludes thoughts of a fiery judgment and denies the truth of Romans 3:10 (“There is no one righteous, not even one”). The egregiousness of iniquity compelled Christ to the cross. God hated sin to death.

Aberrant theories. Another reason people reject the concept of eternal damnation is that they have been taught alternative theories. One such theory is universalism, which says that everyone will eventually make it to heaven. Another theory is annihilationism, in which the existence of hell is acknowledged, but its eternal nature is denied. Annihilationists believe that those who end up in hell will eventually die and cease to exist (i.e., they will be annihilated). This theory simply makes hell a temporary punishment. Both these theories are presented as viable options to the biblical teaching on hell; however, both make the mistake of placing human opinion over divine revelation.

Incomplete teaching. Many contemporary pastors who do believe in the doctrine of hell consider it simply too delicate a subject to preach on. This further contributes to the modern denial of hell. Congregants in churches where hell is not preached are ignorant of what the Bible says on the subject and are prime candidates for deception on the issue. A pastor’s responsibility is “to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints” (Jude 1:3), not pick and choose what parts of the Bible to leave out.

Satan’s ploys. Satan’s first lie was a denial of judgment. In the Garden of Eden, the serpent told Eve, “You will not surely die” (Genesis 3:4). It is still one of Satan’s main tactics. “The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers” (2 Corinthians 4:4), and the blindness he produces includes a denial of God’s holy decrees. Convince the unsaved that there is no judgment, and they can “eat, drink and be merry” with no care for the future.

If we understand the nature of our Creator, we should have no difficulty understanding the concept of hell. “[God] is the Rock, His works are perfect, and all His ways are just. A faithful God who does no wrong, upright and just is He” (Deuteronomy 32:4, emphasis added). His desire is that no one perish but that all come to repentance (2 Peter 3:9).

To contradict the Bible’s teaching on hell is to say, essentially, “If I were God, I would not make hell like that.” The problem with such a mindset is its inherent pride—it smugly suggests that we can improve on God’s plan. However, we are not wiser than God; we are not more loving or more just. Rejecting or revising the biblical doctrine of hell carries a sad irony, which one writer put this way: “The only result of attempts, however well meaning, to air-condition hell is to assure that more and more people wind up there.”

Got Questions, Got Questions 14 Comments [9/18/2018 2:59:43 AM]
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Quote# 140474

[Re: A Crowdsourcing Campaign Directed Against Susan Collins]

"I consider this quid pro quo fundraising to be the equivalent of an attempt to bribe me to vote against Judge Kavanaugh," she told the conservative site Newsmax. She also told the Wall Street Journal that two lawyers told her the campaign violated federal bribery law and a third said it was extortion.

Susan Collins, USA Today 24 Comments [9/16/2018 7:58:33 AM]
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Quote# 140223

You are using the psychological defense mechanism of projection.

Oh, did i misunderstand you? Please correct me then. How do you regard God destroying a whole nation of homosexuals? Did God do the right thing? Did God make a mistake?

Answering these questions will show your inconsistency and faulty view of Allah SWT so you won't do it :)

In the end no person's opinions have any value, not yours, not mine. The only thing that matters is Allah SWTs view. And we all know what that was. He destroyed those deviant homosexuals.

Carlzone, ShiaChat 10 Comments [9/1/2018 12:18:55 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 140235

Janice they kneel on a hard floor and I expect them to thank me for taking the time to properly discipline them. If they don't they go back over for 2-3 strokes of the stick

I also don't allow tights - white socks and shirt with white knickers which come down when a spanking is applied. Except at bedtime Jane and Michael have to change into their school uniforms b4 being disrobed. That way it emphasises the connection between being the spanking and being obedient at school as well as being a ritual that encourages them to conform.

I also tend to unbutton Michael's trousers and slip his underpants down and likewise unzip Jane's skirt before lowering her knickers for the stick

Michelle_williams, Circle of Moms 9 Comments [9/3/2018 1:40:54 PM]
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Quote# 140236

(Amos continues to conflate homosexuality and narcissism, claiming scripture says so)

Amos Moses:
Romans (this entire passage is about NARCISSISM)
1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: (LESBIANS ADDRESSED)
1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. (HOMOSEXUALS ADDRESSED)
1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, (NARCISSISM ADDRESSED)
1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:(MORE NARCISSISM)
1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.(MORE NARCISSISM and the PENALTY)

SanGeronimo:
Not one of those passages LINKS narcissism with homosexuality, they are addressed as SEPARATE things. It is YOU who is attempting to link them. Your scripture IS NOT doing that.

Amos Moses:
they are discussed in the exact same part of scripture ...... and you are not a competent judge of scripture ............ they are not separate issues

SanGeronimo:
They are discussed in the exact same part of scripture. I don't DISPUTE that.
BUT THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING. If in some part of scripture they condemn murder and in the next sentence they condemn rape, does it mean rape and murder are the same thing? Are you always this obtuse?

Amos Moses:
they are inextricably linked ..........

SanGeronimo:
So a rapist is always a murderer too?

Amos Moses:
YUP .....

Amos Moses, Christian News Network 10 Comments [9/3/2018 1:46:57 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 140249

Considering your approach to discipline, I think what you need is a large dog cage. You can put blankets over the outside of the cage, for top and sides. Then you could look inside whenever you want to, or cover it when you want to, without opening the cage.

Also, there should be a blanket inside the cage for her to lay on.

The next step would be to get a metal chain and a padlock, to make sure she can't open it from the inside.

Assuming that she gets bigger, of course you would need a big enough cage to accommodate a full-grown young woman. She might stop growing taller at about 15, but she would still be legally subject to your discipline.

With the baby pacifier or "dummy" device, this can limit the backtalk, as Rachel says, or reduce the amount of crying.

They do sell "adult baby" pacifiers or "dummy" mouthpieces, some of which have buckling straps to go around the back of the neck.

Again, there is always the possibility of using a small padlock to keep her from unfastening it herself.

There are a lot of cute items you could buy, which are sold as "adult baby" supplies.

You can remind your daughter that she is not a grown woman. She is a child. She acts like a child. And she will be treated like a child.

When she gets whiny, and she's acting like a big "cry-baby," then she can wear a pacifier in her mouth.

They also have cages that look like large baby cribs, with wood beams like "jail-cell" bars.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uplo...

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If you have a large enough cage, you could cover the top and sides with blankets, and this could be your spanking room, if you can fit inside of the space with her.

Of course, you want to lock the door in the OPEN position, whenever you have to get inside of it yourself.

In any case, as I say, you should plan on her growing taller, and get a large enough cage that she can lay down in it.

A lot of closets might be wide enough, and with wide doors, but not deep enough. You could still use the closet space you have, and add to it by building a new wall a few feet out into the room.

Just tell a carpenter that you need a bigger closet.

Janice, Circle of Moms 20 Comments [9/3/2018 2:03:29 PM]
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Quote# 140251

Yes, ma'am. Those who demand obedience GET obedience. I keep seeing this over and over, from so many. If we don't back down, and just keep demanding obedience, then we will GET obedience. Many of us find it hard to believe, but only because we haven't pushed hard enough.

Those children who "refuse" to be spanked, who "refuse" to bring the cane, or the strap, or the paddle, who "refuse" to get into position for it - - apparently they CAN LEARN that "refusal" is not an option.

It is up to us, the parents, to keep insisting, and to keep punishing for disobedience.

Some say they will BRING the cane or strap, and ASK for the whipping, and THANK the parents afterwards. This sounds almost beyond belief to some of us. But there has to be some value in persistence.

The child has to eventually back down, as long as the parent does NOT back down!

Janice, Circle of Moms 18 Comments [9/3/2018 2:06:24 PM]
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Quote# 140252

Geronimo:

You talking to me? This Christian is no member of the lieberal Westboro (Hellsboro) "Baptist" Church! Just because they have learned a couple things about the sodomite, doesn't mean they are right about other things of the Bible. That's despite being corrected by numerous preachers (see James the Preacher) in a multitudinous manner.

Have you seen whom they got out there preaching against f@ggotry? Females! What does the Bible say about the female opening her mouth relative to the matters of Biblical instruction? To wit: "But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence." 1 Tim 2:12

So next time you see WBC out there, make sure to tell their females to be in silence, to dress properly and not like slatterns, and to study their Bibles under direction of their men, as the Scripture commands.

Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D., Disqus Grace and Truth 9 Comments [9/3/2018 2:06:45 PM]
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Quote# 140493

Like we all know, media is full of anti-pedophile message. There is a pedophile/hebephile witch hunt going on. But why doesn't anyone talk about teleiophiles = minors attracted to adults? I'm sure there are many of those preteen girls who like older guys, but because of a modern anti-male culture, men are always seen as abusers and rapists. Also could it be that some of the pedophile-teleiophilic relationships are actually ruined by the social attitudes and the (age of consent) law, not the evil molester monster men?

Timi, The 600 Club 7 Comments [9/18/2018 2:57:37 AM]
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Quote# 140500

Philippians 1: 1-11

“Being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.” Vs.6



When one comes to faith in Jesus Christ, God goes to work to conform his child into the image of His Son. And we as believers can be assured the work He begins, He also completes through the partaking of His Word and His Holy Spirit.

I had an object lesson in this when I was plagued with basal cell carcinoma. I had two open sores on my leg that refused to heal. They remained a constant pain to me and so I sought how to treat them through the Lord’s guidance. I am not one who rushes immediately to a doctor. The reason is I’ve experienced negative results, so if there is a natural remedy for my condition or the Lord chooses to heal in His own way, I seek to find it because it has worked well for me to do so.

I did go to the dermatologist for the biopsy. But the treatment was to remove the cancer growth surgically. This alarmed me since I had discovered that even with this the cancer can return and the skin is permanently scarred. I also did not trust the treatment because they gave no adequate advice on how to prevent infection from the biopsy procedure. In fact, I told them what I would do instead of their suggestion to apply Vaseline to the wounds. I had a relative who did this and it ended up infected. So with my suggestion they looked up the best antibiotic ointment to apply.

In the meantime, the Lord was teaching me about how to nourish my body by avoiding foods that are overly processed and manufactured. My grand-daughter was researching a college paper on the Vegan diet when she discovered how a person gave testimony of being cured of skin cancer by changing her diet. When I looked into the research I stumbled onto a natural remedy for basal and squamous cell skin cancer. The treatment was to apply an eggplant extract until the cancer cells were destroyed. I wanted to go this route instead of surgery so I ordered the cream and when I was contacted by the dermatologist to schedule the Moh procedure I asked if she was willing to monitor the treatment using this cream. I consulted my Lord about all of this by saying to Him if the biopsy report was not melanoma and only basal cell cancer I would feel confident to go this route. All of the biopsies reported “Basal Cell carcinoma. Well, as I predicted the dermatologist was not interested in monitoring this treatment and I was on my own. But not really, I had the great Physician guiding me on this scary unknown path.

I ordered the cream and began a ritual of applying it two times daily. The cream contained an acid base to permeate the tissue and allow the extract to attack the cells. Needless to say, it was painful and I at times wanted to give up, but the instructions said to continue until the tissue was healed. The skin would be inflamed all around the sore as the extract began to hunt and destroy. Finally, after approximately nine weeks, the burning subsided and I discontinued the treatments and the skin began to heal.

In all of this the Lord was also going after deep rooted habits and wrong thinking in my life. As He exposed them it was painful emotionally to discover my faults, but the knife of the Word was applied and He told me to be patient as He completed the work to get rid of the root of what was holding me back from experiencing His complete freedom in Him and healing. (Hebrews 4:12). As I prayed concerning His cleansing, He spoke to my heart He was removing everything that was not of Him.

The Lord has promised to complete the work of redemption in our life until the day we come face to face with our God. In that day we will stand righteous before a Holy God in Christ, presented to the Father as His faithful bride. (Jude 1:24-25)

Let the Lord do His work in your life through all adversity, knowing He is transforming you into His likeness and removing all that is not of Him. What remains Is His awesome transformation of your nature to reflect His own without scar or blemish. (James 1:2-4)

Mary (Doula Faith), doulafaith.org 6 Comments [9/18/2018 3:01:58 AM]
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Submitted By: dxdydz

Quote# 140501

[Translation and commentary is sourced from Reddit]

0:00 The existence of life after death has been scientifically proven by an Ural Federal University student. The young scientist has even created the corresponding mathematical formula.

0:09 "Life is a function of time. Thus, death is the limit of that function as time approaches infinity. The solution is a finite quantity, which means that a crisp, determinate perception awaits us after death. That proves that life after death exists."

0:29 Based on that mathematical formula, Yuri says that after the physical death of one's body, certain information persists that they had been perceiving during their lifetime. The student thinks that that substance is intangible.

0:36
Formula

Let L = f (t) where t - time L - life expressed as information

then D= Lim f(t),t -> +infinity, where D is information about death and ensuing events

D=Limf(t)=[8/8]=S(ABC)i/ABC=const


0:42 Now the mathematician is planning to tell the scientific community about the discovery and even publish an article in a foreign journal. Furthermore, Yuri is nominated for the Youth Nobel Prize of one million rubles which will be awarded in Yekaterinburg at the sixth Eurasian Youth Economic Forum. By the way, Yuri has already planned his own afterlife.

1:05 "If Benjamin Franklin took lightning from the gods, that means I took away... life after death, because now I know what it depends on and can influence it. You just need to control your cognition. To put it simply, choose it. Since we can see that consciousness persists, that information persists, that means the ability to choose persists as well."

[commentary]
And here's his crowdfunding campaign, which contains gems like "According to biochemistry ... when we don't have a brain to think with, nothing is left" and "We can view life as a function of two variables: information and time" and also a 9/11 picture for some reason.

Uri Berland, YouTube 13 Comments [9/18/2018 3:03:07 AM]
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Submitted By: dxdydz

Quote# 140499

Question: "Is the universe eternal?"

Answer: The Bible makes it clear that the universe is not eternal, that it had a beginning, and that the beginning was its creation by God (Genesis 1:1). This truth has been denied by philosophers and pseudo-scientists who have come up with a variety of different theories in an effort to “prove” the eternality of the universe. Further, atheists will say that matter and energy are eternal, following the first law of thermodynamics—“Energy can be transformed (changed from one form to another), but it can neither be created nor destroyed.”

Philosophically, why do we have something rather than nothing at all? If the universe had a beginning, then it must have a cause, and therefore cannot be eternal. And every drop of evidence we have points to the universe having a beginning, but this truth is not something welcomed by naturalists and atheists. Numerous scientifically minded atheists have expressed a desire to find a loophole to the scientific fact that the present order of nature had a beginning. Unfortunately for them, such a loophole does not exist. Here are five proofs that the universe is not eternal:

(1) The universe is running down, and something that is running down must have started at some point. The second law of thermodynamics states that the universe is running out of usable energy and if you doubt this, look in the mirror (you’re aging and running down just like everything else).

(2) The universe is expanding. This was confirmed through the Hubble telescope many years ago, and it is interesting to note that the universe is expanding from a single point, meaning the entire universe could be contracted back into a single point. Also, note that the universe is not expanding into space, but space itself is expanding.

(3) The radiation echo was discovered by Bell Labs scientists in 1965. What is it? It is the heat afterglow from the Big Bang. Its discovery dealt a death blow to any theory of the universe being in a steady state because it shows instead that the universe exploded.

(4) Galaxy Seeds. Scientists believe that, if the Big Bang is true (first, there was nothing, then, BANG, something came into being), then temperature “ripples” should exist in space, and it would be these ripples that enabled matter to collect into galaxies. To discover whether these ripples exist, the Cosmic Background Explorer – COBE – was launched in 1989 to find them, with the findings being released in 1992. What COBE found was perfect/precise ripples that, sure enough, enable galaxies to form. So critical and spectacular was this finding that the NASA lead for COBE, said, “If you’re religious, it’s like looking at God.”

(5) Albert Einstein’s theory of relativity means that the universe had a beginning and was not eternal as he had previously believed (Einstein was originally a pantheist). His theory proved that the universe is not a cause, but instead one big effect—something brought it into existence. Einstein disliked his end result so much that he introduced a “fudge factor” into his theory that allowed for an eternal universe. But there was only one problem. His fudge factor required a division by zero in his calculations—a mathematical error any good math student knows not to make. When discovered by other mathematicians, Einstein admitted his error calling it “the greatest blunder of my life.” After his acknowledgment, and upon confirming further research that showed the universe expanding just as his theory of relativity predicted, Einstein bowed to the fact that the universe is not eternal and said that he wanted “to know how God created the world.”

Further, it should be understood that every effect must resemble its cause. This is because, simply put, you cannot give what you do not have, so it is impossible for an effect to possess something its originating cause did not have. That being the case, how can one believe that an impersonal, amoral, purposeless, and meaningless universe accidentally created beings that are full of personality, morals, meaning, and purpose? Only mind can create mind. In the end it is either matter before mind or mind before matter, and all scientific, philosophical, and reasonable evidence points to the latter.

In conclusion, we find that all scientific evidence points to the fact that the universe had a beginning, just as the Bible states, and that a Cause must exist that resembles all we know today. As Lord Kelvin, a British scientist once said, "If you study science deep enough and long enough, it will force you to believe in God."

Got Questions, Got Questions 6 Comments [9/18/2018 3:00:02 AM]
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Quote# 131594

[On antifa protesters]

1) Arrest them
2) Hold them for 72 hrs before posting bail
3) Give them alone time with Bubba in Appalachia.
#EffectiveRehabilition

Pat Garodalo, Twitter 15 Comments [9/13/2017 2:09:28 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 140284

[Bolding added.]

PORTLAND, Ore. – A local non-profit food cart in Southwest Portland say they have been forced to close due to alleged harassment and threats coming from protesters across the street at Occupy ICE.

The Happy Camper is run by Scott and Julie Hakes. They use the food cart to raise money for their non-profit organization, Operation Off The Grid, which helps the homeless around Portland.

“It's our passion due to the fact that Julie and I were both homeless in our past,” said Scott. “We had always said that if we ever get to the point where we could give back, we would.”

The stand is across the street from the Portland U.S. Immigration, Customs and Enforcement (ICE) facility, where protesters are holding a weeks-long demonstration and calling for the abolishment of ICE.

As the occupation enters its sixth week, Hakes says enough is enough.

It started several weeks ago when Hakes says protesters were yelling at his daughter. Hakes provided KATU News with video showing someone from the camp across the street yelling at his daughter with a megaphone.

“She’s laughing at the immigration laws that have f****d over families,” said the unidentified protester.

In the video, Hakes daughter says, “Do you hear them? They think I’m laughing at them. So now they are targeting us now.”

“Boom - there it went. We were on the number one hit list from that point on,” said Hakes.

Since then, Hakes says protesters have harassed his customers. Business went down 80 percent.

“We were down to making $50 a day. I think there was one day we made $25,” said Hakes.

Hakes says protesters threatened to burn down his cart on multiple occasions. He says they threatened his daughter and her boyfriend.

“If they catch her outside the cart they are going to hurt her. They are constantly saying they are going to hurt her. They're constantly cussing at her and screaming at her,” said Hakes. “She finally had enough. She called me up on the phone, crying. I said ‘Breanna, shut the doors, we're done.’”


Antonio Zamora, who says he is a co-founder of the occupation, told KATU News off camera that individual actions do not speak for the group. He said if someone was harassing or threatening the cart, that is not something they condone and it goes against their code of conduct.

Hakes said he went to talk to the protesters three times, but it never helped.

“They're not rational individuals,” he said.

Hakes said they called police multiple times to report the harassment and threats.

A Portland Police Spokesperson confirmed they have at least one report of threats, along with video to go with it. Because it is the weekend, police say they were not able to do a full search of the system for other reports.

Occupy ICE protestor, KATU News 8 Comments [9/5/2018 7:09:19 AM]
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Quote# 140289

Rarely can you ever find a legitimate explanation of National Socialism, without it being colored by heavy handed propaganda. I showed this video to a normie friend, whose not especially political and this video blew their mind. They had never even considered that National Socialism wasnt just some cartoonishly evil dictatorship

Rockwell's Pipe, Youtube 7 Comments [9/5/2018 3:05:50 PM]
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Submitted By: hydrolythe

Quote# 140360

Don't tell me that nothing gave birth to something... because it decided to... This goes against everything science has ever stood for.

So nothing makes something, and then something self organizes over 13 billion years into humans. Yeah, that makes way more sense than the thought that we were built, or are a simulation.

See you ppl, always go to the "ghost" and "Spirit" arguments. Trying to belittle the very concept of creation. And in the same breath tell us you KNOW that nothing took a giant shit and out we came.

By it's definition, nothing does not exist and therefore cannot produce anything.

First Born Son, Godlike Productions 7 Comments [9/9/2018 6:10:35 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 49791

Quote from Shirono "I'm a decent, kind and thoughtful person...and I'm an Atheist"

That is because you were raised in a Christian realm, in a nation that has a culture founded on Christian principles, which came from the Western world that has been heavily shaped by Christianity for 2,000 years.
You operating in a manner reflecting the few latent Christian elements and presuppositions that remain in our culture in no way reflects your point. Rather, it entirely mitigates it.

Atlantians, Christianforums.com 30 Comments [10/14/2008 3:20:54 AM]
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Submitted By: Meredith

Quote# 49683

Atheism is a religion for people who worship themselves instead of God. Atheists tend to suffer from a rare, more aggressive form of unwarranted self-importance. Atheists typically think they are smarter than you no matter what. Just try to correct them on something and prepare to be blasted away with some "SERIOUS ****ING LOGIC".

Don't you guys know that God doesn't believe in atheists? Atheists are never moral because they do not believe in God.

Master Epyon, GameFAQs 57 Comments [10/13/2008 5:46:59 PM]
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Submitted By: fcgroningen

Quote# 49651

if this video is about geology, dinosaurs, carbon dating etc.... then I am not interested. My mind is closed when it comes to evolution. "close minded" in a way that I will pick and choose what I let in. Evolution has shown me death, racism, abortion, eugenics, genocide and the list goes on. I want nothing to do with that abomination.

Reformed Liberal, city-data.com 44 Comments [10/13/2008 1:54:04 AM]
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Submitted By: Orlor

Quote# 140317

Mate, I fully understand being attracted to minors, until itdoesn't surpass the boundaries of 2d world, but giving advice on 'meeting' irl lolis or actually doing that is not okay in my opinion. Hope you understand my point.



You’re entitled to your opinion. Of course I comprehend your point, because yours is the opinion of the vast majority of society. You think I haven’t heard that before? Yours is a voice lost in a near-infinite sea of society which claims I’m wrong, evil, even foolish.

Where we differ is in our interpretation of the objective morality—the metaphysical truth that exists outside human consciousness. The pertinent objective morality is this: It’s wrong to sexually abuse young people. You interpret the moral line of abuse as “meeting or actually doing that.” Well, to me, that’s patently vague. My idea of the moral line is “coercing a young person into behavior which could hurt them physically or emotionally now or in the future.” 

Of course, I can’t guarantee that a person I advise won’t abuse someone by the standard I defined above. Nor can your state guarantee that you won’t kill a vanload of people when you drive your car. But like your driving instructor, I can provide guidelines, moral and technical training, and only give licensure (the keys to attracting lolis, if you will) to those I deem deserving. I only advise individuals whom I’ve vetted. And in this way, I make the world a little bit safer for lolis.

– Jax

Lil-loli-playhouse4, Tumblr 3 Comments [9/7/2018 2:02:53 PM]
Fundie Index: 5

Quote# 140203

The majority of the images and videos he possesed were children and BABIES being brutally raped on film and camera and Mark Salling as the audience for those photos and videos. Do some research please... Articles are stating the images were masochistic and violent on top of the rape itself. Defend these victims not him. He could have gotten help at any time and CHOSE not to. Instead he chose to create a demand for raping children



He didn’t “create a demand.” It’s not like he went out and announced to the world that he was addicted to child pornography. And for the last time, I was not defending his actions. You people constantly describing to me what he did isn’t changing anything. I’m aware. But that doesn’t change the fact that he was a human who deserved to be helped and understood. And it is OKAY for him to be mourned. It is OKAY for people to be sad about his death. Please stop bombarding me with useless messages as if I have no idea what’s going on. Yes, he did terrible things, but the root of all of this is mental illness, whether you people can accept that or not. Mark was sick. And that made him do some terrible things. I am NOT defending that, and obviously shit like that needs to STOP. But he is dead. He fucking killed himself, so yeah, I have a little sympathy for him.

reyheyy, tumblr 4 Comments [9/3/2018 7:52:30 AM]
Fundie Index: 2

Quote# 140290

Age of consent is 1) a statist/legal framework, with all of the faults that entails that is 2) transparently premised on the denial of agency and autonomy to those designated as minors, which plays into 3) the positioning of the state and the nuclear family as the proper and necessary guardians of children.

The fact that age of consent has been so normalized as *the* thing to rally around in opposition to csa is terrifying tbh.

The specter of pedophilia is so central to homo/transphobic and transmisogynist myths. It's so central to the maintainence of the nuclear family and forced divisions between generations. The stakes involved in these questions go so far beyond whether people should (be allowed to) have ~relationships~ / otherwise be intimate when there's a large age difference. The pedophile is one of the central images of the #deviant we need the state to protect us from. People should be way more wary of mobilizing that ready made image.

But more than that, it's such a conservative and authoritarian position to say that people can't make decisions about their body / their relationships / their lives until they're 18. There are obviously anarchist alternatives to saying that the answer to minors sometimes being drawn into abusive relationships is to ban relationships with age differences and rally around adult authority.

People could, idk, intensify their attacks on the authoritarian structures of the family and the state and civilization that all help directly facilitate abuse and render minors more alienated and dependent on adults and thus more susceptible to abuse. They could reject ageist models that (rightfully) discredit them to minors and do more to display and pass on possibilities of what anarchist relationships can look like. They could engage in any number of strategies that align with youth liberation and actual anarchist anti-abuse frameworks.

Or I guess people can just copy the conservative position when shit like Milo's comments come out and rally around the legal denial of agency to minors.

#csa #abuse #youth liberation #age of consent

post-woman, Tumblr 7 Comments [9/5/2018 3:08:34 PM]
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Submitted By: Thanos6

Quote# 140469

(Shar's response to another member's message: "Almost all deaths from abortion are from after the safe period of a few weeks. Anti abortion people against early abortions are koo koo's to put it nicely. Take that to the bank of rationality/good common sense. Abortions done with licensed doctors who only do early ones are very safe for the woman):

Even early abortions are risky. A good number women bleed to death AFTER they leave the clinic so it is reported as bleeding to death rather than root cause of abortion. That abortion pill is horrible. All women bleed excessively after taking it and have severe pain. Doctors (if you can call them that) do not take it seriously. Women are not at abortion clinics long enough to see if there are complications. It is like a factory..in and out. Women should be told of the risks before having abortions and be told of them so they understand. Part of the problem is an abortion doctor is an abortion doctor because he or she isn't good enough to be any other type. It is all about the bottom line...that is why they are rushed out instead of mKing [sic] sure the women are ok. Shar

Shar, Realabortiondebate 13 Comments [9/15/2018 3:02:39 PM]
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